The new £20 Note - Or should it be Euro?

[LIP]

Well, the new 20 pound note is shite. It looks more like a euro. I hate it.

Us brits dont like change, and now they've gone and changed the £20 note.

All the people i know think it's crap, and was much better before.

But WHY did they change it? It looks more like a euro now than anything.

I know this is something petty to get pissed about, but i like money - and now they've ruined it with euro SHIT i dont like paying for anything with them. It looks stupid.

Whats everyones thoughts?

I only ask coz everyone i know, including myself is pissed off about it.




The first picture is the new 20 on to of the old 20's, a couple of 5's and a 10.

Second pic is just the new 20

and the 3rd is the old one.

I just think the old looks better, and there was no need to change it into the English version of a euro.

[Skink]

Hence the whole reasoning behind the Euro...

[munkjunkie]

As long as it stays the £ i'll be happy,dont want to go euro.We should make britain a continent

[MadSativa]

I didnt even know in the UK you still use pounds I thought it was all euro now. Every time Im in the UK or amsterdamski or Spain, I just exchange to euro.:pimp:

[LIP]

It's just so crap. It looks like the designers sat around all day picking peanuts out of poo instead of making a note that looked good.

[slipknotpsycho]

they look pretty much the same to me...

[pisshead]

could be related to this...

EU pours £3.8bn into 'brainwashing campaign' Robert Watts
London Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/weu101.xml)
Monday July 2, 2007
The European Union is spending £3.8 billion a year on "propaganda" to win over its sceptical citizens, it is claimed.
As well as publishing a plethora of pamphlets and employing an army of public relations staff, the EU has spent hundreds of millions of pounds on teaching aids, school trips and even cartoons.
According to Lee Rotherham, the author of a new book which examines the EU's spending on its image, such initiatives are an "outrageous and cynical attempt to brainwash the young". The Europa Diary, a gift from the EU to schoolchildren, is one example cited by Mr Rotherham in Hearts & Minds: the Tax-funded PR Campaign to Make us Love Brussels.

The diary has been sent to 1.2 million pupils in more than 9,000 schools across Europe. Its calendar includes pages that describe the European Parliament as "the people's voice" and claims that the EU has "improved the quality of people's everyday lives".
A version of the diary sent to Dutch schools describes the European Parliament as the "most important multi-national organ in the world".
Let's Explore Europe Together, an online teaching aid aimed at nine to 12-year-olds, describes the EU as a "really good plan that had never been tried before".
The European Parliament has also funded a cartoon called Operation Red Dragon, featuring a daring, fictitious MEP, Elisa Correr, who becomes "embroiled in a risky and fascinating adventure while in pursuit of her parliamentary activities".
She dodges assassins, hunts down a general who broke an arms embargo, and still has time to debate copyright law in Brussels. The text admits: "European Parliamentarians do not generally lead such dangerous lives ... nevertheless you can learn about the work of an MEP and other European institutions from the story."
In Italy, reports Mr Rotherham, children have been confronted by Camillo e l'Euro in Europa, a cartoon that champions the single currency.
Mr Rotherham said: "Much of this is outrageous propaganda cynically trying to brainwash the young into thinking the EU is an essential part of their lives.
"This stuff is relentlessly positive about the EU's work, with only the tiniest, if any, mention of the counter-arguments or any dissenting voices. Brussels realises it is losing people's hearts and minds and so it is spending more and more of our money on marketing material and hordes of press officers to champion its existence."
Europe's Best Successes, a 51-page pamphlet to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the EU, features lines such as "if you are lucky enough to be a citizen of the EU", and "young people have really benefited from the development of a borderless Europe".
Mr Rotherham also details extensive spending on umbrellas, mouse mats, pencils and other items branded with the EU logo - part of a £2.4 billion budget for European Commission "projects". He also reveals big grants to think-tanks and EU-funded trips to the European Parliament.
Using accounts from across the EU's five main institutions - the European Parliament, Council of Ministers, European Court of Justice, the EU Council and the European Court of Auditors - Mr Rotherham calculates that the total spent on "propaganda" last year across all member states was £3.8 billion out of an overall budget of about £84 billion. Britain contributes about £6.3 billion a year to the EU, more than any other member state.
A spokesman for the European Parliament in London described Mr Rotherham's work as "voodoo economics", and added: "The European Commission, quite rightly, like any public organisation, does spend money on both listening to the public and communicating its activities."


or this...


BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Brown wants a 'new world order' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6277747.stm)
Brown wants a 'new world order'

Mr Brown laid a floral tribute at the memorial for Mahatma Gandhi
Brown on challenges (http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6270000/newsid_6277800?redirect=6277855.stm&news=1&nbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1) Chancellor Gordon Brown has spoken of the need for a "new world order" to deal with future security and environmental challenges. He called for a "new diplomacy" to go alongside military power to defeat terrorism, share prosperity and "win the battle of hearts and minds".
That meant strengthening Britain's global alliances but also reforming institutions such as the EU and UN.
Mr Brown was speaking in Mumbai on the latest stage of his tour of India.

The chancellor said he had been inspired by Mahatma Gandhi as he laid a wreath at the memorial to the former leader.
Mr Brown said he was not trying to compare himself to the founder of modern India but was inspired by his strength, courage and strong will.

He also quoted Winston Churchill, in an interview with the BBC's Nick Robinson, saying "you cannot meet the challenges of the future by simply building the present in the image of the past".
He said the British people wanted a "more secure world," a safer environment and greater prosperity and "that will require new diplomacy in the next few years to build better institutions."
Mr Brown said he would not pledge to always seek UN approval before taking military action.
'Bigger role'
"Nobody's going to make that commitment," he said, adding that Britain tried to work through the UN in Iraq, where it now had a mandate.
"The American alliance we have, the European cooperation that we welcome and are going to strengthen in the years to come, and our role in the Commonwealth are the basis on which we move forward.
"But I believe that there is a collective interest that the world can be persuaded of, in the United Nations playing a bigger role in security, Nato playing a bigger role out of theatre, and also the European Union as a collective institution playing a fuller role in world politics."

The Chancellor rejected Northern Ireland Secretary Peter Hain's criticism that the US "neo-conservative" mission had failed. "I don't accept that what America has tried to do has failed," he said.
Mr Brown also called for greater international co-operation and a stronger sense of national purpose in meeting the security threat.
"If we in Britain can have a stronger sense of what our national purpose is, that will enable us to face the challenges ahead.
"That would mean, in practice, we spend more time thinking about what can integrate us as a community and bring us together."
Earlier, Mr Brown said he has grown more relaxed speaking about the "big challenges" which will face him as the likely next prime minister.
He is widely expected to take over as prime minister when Tony Blair stands down this year.
'World leader'
He told the BBC: "It's the right thing to do, to talk about some of the big challenges for the future.
"I've been thinking about some of these big challenges. I see the potential for Britain to be a world leader in so many areas in the future.
"I also see that we can build that stronger sense of national identity in Britain that will give us strength to face the challenges of the future."
His three-day tour to India is being seen an attempt to move beyond fiscal policy and strengthen his international credentials.
But the visit has been overshadowed by the row over the alleged racist bullying of Indian actress Shilpa Shetty on the UK reality television show Celebrity Big Brother.
Mr Brown has already described as "offensive" the allegedly racist remarks and he faces possible further questions during a visit to a Bollywood film studio in Mumbai.
He is also expected to meet industrialists in the city, which is India's financial capital.

Story from BBC NEWS:
BBC NEWS | Politics | Brown wants a 'new world order' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk_politics/6277747.stm)

Published: 2007/01/19 10:24:57 GMT

© BBC MMVII

[Skink]

We just went through a facelift on our bills,,,I kinda like them,,,altho the 10 looks like it could be a bigger denomination...

[Psycho4Bud]

Security features were added the way it looks:

1. Paper quality -Banknotes are printed on special paper with raised lettering in some areas. Fake notes can sometimes feel limp or waxy
2. Print quality - Numbers, letters and colours are sharp and clear, whereas counterfeit notes may appear slightly blurred
3. Holographic strip - Pound symbol and figure 20 alternate when the note is tilted
4. Microlettering - Words printed below the portrait of the Queen are only visible with a magnifying glass
5. Metallic thread - Silver dashes on the back of the note become a continuous dark line when held up to the light
6. A see-through "register" shows a broken pound sign. The symbol becomes whole when held up to the light.
7. The watermark has been moved to a white panel to make it easier to find
Other - Some unpublicised "covert features" are designed to further deter counterfeiters
BBC NEWS | Business | New Adam Smith £20 note launched (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6444003.stm)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[LIP]

It still looks crap. Haha, phyco, i've had fake 20's - you can tell straight away. And i had some bloke try and pay me with half a 5 note and half a 20 note taped together.

[Divadish]

LIP i'll have any you don't want mate lol ;)

[LIP]

LIP i'll have any you don't want mate lol ;)

The reason im so angry is i've got 5 grands worth of these shitty notes on me, so im afraid i cant. I need them to live, ironicly. I went to the bank and they gave me new crap. I'm going to ask for old ones in the future.

[LIP]

This, however, is true.

Thanks man - theres no denying it. The old one just looked better. That's all, but looks are everything. Money is beautiful - or should be.

[Skink]

Security features were added the way it looks:

1. Paper quality -Banknotes are printed on special paper with raised lettering in some areas. Fake notes can sometimes feel limp or waxy
2. Print quality - Numbers, letters and colours are sharp and clear, whereas counterfeit notes may appear slightly blurred
3. Holographic strip - Pound symbol and figure 20 alternate when the note is tilted
4. Microlettering - Words printed below the portrait of the Queen are only visible with a magnifying glass
5. Metallic thread - Silver dashes on the back of the note become a continuous dark line when held up to the light
6. A see-through "register" shows a broken pound sign. The symbol becomes whole when held up to the light.
7. The watermark has been moved to a white panel to make it easier to find
Other - Some unpublicised "covert features" are designed to further deter counterfeiters
BBC NEWS | Business | New Adam Smith £20 note launched (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6444003.stm)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Same thing is behind ours...

[Psycho4Bud]

It still looks crap. Haha, phyco, i've had fake 20's - you can tell straight away. And i had some bloke try and pay me with half a 5 note and half a 20 note taped together.

They did the same thing in 2003 with the new Iraqi currency.....I've got about 5 mill. in a safety box. :D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Staurm]

It's not the quality of the note, it's the quantity.

[munkjunkie]

How much is a draw/oz/bar/kilo of skunk in euros?????

[ChronBudz]

wow this is the first time i have ever really seen any type of european curency and i must say american money looks much cooler but thats just my opinon especially since they added color to all the bills something about the queens face on those notes creeps me out lol

[Sweyn Forkbeard]

I can't say i hate the new £20, i really don't care that they changed it. New note designs are always going to be brought out now and again.

What does piss me off is what pisshead highlighted - the amount of money thrown away by European institutions all the time on absolute nonsense laws and reports and such.

Actually what really pisses me off is the phrase "hearts and minds".

[Reefer Rogue]

It looks shite but still counts as dosh

[cannabis campbell]

Nah old one looks better.. more classic the new one looks shit imo, but not bothered that much good enough to purchase a 20bag :)

[Kid Dynamite]

There creating the New World Order in right under our noses. Forget countries, soon we will be a global state.

[Sweyn Forkbeard]

There creating the New World Order in right under our noses. Forget countries, soon we will be a global state.

We're already in a complete fucking state.

[dean0000]

I actually quite like the new note. I only think it looks stupid cause it is different to all the others. If they changed all the notes I think it would be good cause the old notes look a bit dated.

And the story about someone taping a 5 and a 20 together. How is this possible when the 5 is smaller in size than the 20 :S

[lil josh]

FuckTheNewTwenty

FTnT

F-TNT

[LIP]

I actually quite like the new note. I only think it looks stupid cause it is different to all the others. If they changed all the notes I think it would be good cause the old notes look a bit dated.

And the story about someone taping a 5 and a 20 together. How is this possible when the 5 is smaller in size than the 20 :S

Yes - Exactly my point. They we're having it on, but anyone with any sort of eye sight would have spotted, and i did. So i told the bloke and he paid with a 10. Yes, the 5 is the smallest, then 10, then 20 and the lovely 50 is nice and big.

And, did you know, England is short on £5 notes because the polish immigrants are sending them to poland - and the bank of England hasnt printed any new ones for a year. Just an interesting fact.

[Staurm]

Why are they sending them to Poland?

[LIP]

Why are they sending them to Poland?

That's what immigrants do - work over here and send our money back "home" to their families.

That's why 99% come over here - to work here and send money home.

FinancialAdvice.co.uk - UK economy News - Shortage of £5 notes attacked (http://www.financialadvice.co.uk/news/12/ukeconomy/5798/Shortage-of-1635-notes-attacked.html)

Cash dispensers behind the great 'fiver' shortage | the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=463383&in_page_id=1770)

These sites, as far as i know dont mention anything about Poland, but that's whats being blamed in the papers.

[Staurm]

Yeah, but isn't it better to change it into Polish currency, and then send it?

[LIP]

Yeah, but isn't it better to change it into Polish currency, and then send it?

That's what i would have thought, but apparantly their not.

[Staurm]

Well I wouldn't beleive what the papers say, the Polish seem to be taking the blame for a lot of things. Sending fiver's home to Poland? Why not tenner's or twenties? Only fivers? I'm not buying that one.

[LIP]

Well I wouldn't beleive what the papers say, the Polish seem to be taking the blame for a lot of things. Sending fiver's home to Poland? Why not tenner's or twenties? Only fivers? I'm not buying that one.

They're immigrants. They're cheap labour. They probably dont get paid with 20's and 10's.

This is pretty simple stuff - after reading your posts i would have thought that kind of thing would have been obvious to you.

It's not just the papers, it is true weather you want to belive it or not. Notes dont just go missing, and we KNOW they're sending some home - maybe they're just sending more than we thought.

[Staurm]

They don't get paid that little. And if they were sending fivers back then wouldn't the banks change them and return them to the UK or wouldn't they come back in a van load of new polish immigrant workers? Sorry but this theory just don't wash with me, what paper said this BTW?

I reckon all these missing fivers are hiding away in the side pockets of old trousers, I keep finding them all the time in mine.

[LIP]

They don't get paid that little. And if they were sending fivers back then wouldn't the banks change them and return them to the UK or wouldn't they come back in a van load of new polish immigrant workers? Sorry but this theory just don't wash with me, what paper said this BTW?

I reckon all these missing fivers are hiding away in the side pockets of old trousers, I keep finding them all the time in mine.

All of the sunday papers. All of them - Albeit small articles, but it was in everyone somewhere.

Opinions are great arnt they?

[Staurm]

Well I guess its possible. I suppose a fiver is probably the equivalent of a weeks giro in Poland, or 2 crates of beer. Maybe its a Polish thing, send their spare fiver back to the family give them a treat. Maybe they look like Polish 50's, who knows....

[LIP]

Well I guess its possible. I suppose a fiver is probably the equivalent of a weeks giro in Poland, or 2 crates of beer. Maybe its a Polish thing, send their spare fiver back to the family give them a treat. Maybe they look like Polish 50's, who knows....

I'm sure it's a combination of things.

Not only them, but us too.

They're sending some home, we're tearing some by mistake, you know, making them void, and because they havnt printed any for a year there beginning to die out - but they've said they're going to start printing again, so it's not a problem.

But there is definatly alot less fivers about the gaff - i used to always get 5 notes as change, and now im getting like 7 in coins and no notes.

It's not a problem, just something interesting i thought i'd write.

[Staurm]

I don't mind a hand full of 2's and 1's, it's slightly better than a skanky old fiver that's been soaked in the pish of half a dozen jakey's just before you get it in your change. Besides, I have gotten so used to just tenner's and twenties now that if I feel a note in my pocket, and it turns out to be a only a fiver, there is a significant element of dissapointment.

I suppose the Poles might send them back to Poland as opposed to getting them changed here because (a) they don't speak english and (b) a single note is cheaper to send than probably ten Polish ones. And maybe they get a better exchange rate over there too.

Other than that it's more likely just down to us not bothering to print more.

[BobBong]

Be glad they're not changing your bills over to coin..

[suhl]

they change the bills here in the us all the time. especially the 20. you get used to it.

[Jah420]

I'm in total agreement about the £20s..

The new ones are complete wank... what more is there to say.

I just really fucking hope we don't end up in the euro switchover.. I like the £ and I like pound coins.. does anyone have any info on the likelyhood of us brits keeping the GBP?

[Nation_1ne]

I much prefer the older note, I haven't actually come across a new 20 yet! I do agree they do look shitty, and much like foreign money rather than the good old British stuff. However I hear it is a lot harder to counterfeit which is good. I'm not really patriotic what so ever, but I do want to keep our £.

[BUZz UK]

They're bigger, i'm sure.

What if you have a small wallet?

[TheGreenFog]

[B]could be related to this...

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Over 3k posts, yet I've never seen your username. :confused: I guess you post in other sections mostly, eh? Welcome to the Lounge. :D:D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[bong_man]

I hate the way the brits wont change to euro! its really confusing buying weed in sterling and the atm charges a fuck load of interest euro looks way better aswell

[LIP]

I hate the way the brits wont change to euro! its really confusing buying weed in sterling and the atm charges a fuck load of interest euro looks way better aswell

In your opinion. In Englands opinion, it's shit. Looks like shit, is shit.

That's why we wont change.

[LIP]

They're bigger, i'm sure.

What if you have a small wallet?

If you got a small wallet your bang in trouble - but if someone cant fit a little 20 in what about a 50. lol.

[maryjane911]

I'M NOT BOTHERD LONGS IT SPENDS AND I CAN STILL BUY MY WEED WITH IT.

PEACE OUT

[Eazy]

yer i like fivers lot less now i know whyy

dunno if u know but the notes are differnt sizes for the blind so my old man told me

he was an bank account he doen everything lol but yer

small up 1
up 1
fat fifty

[BUZz UK]

If you got a small wallet your bang in trouble - but if someone cant fit a little 20 in what about a 50. lol.

it's fine, mine's 100 sized, lol...

[Nation_1ne]

And, did you know, England is short on £5 notes because the polish immigrants are sending them to poland - and the bank of England hasnt printed any new ones for a year. Just an interesting fact.

Funny you should say that. Recently, when I have been going to shops they keep giving me £5 change in coins rather than notes. Anyway I needed a £5 note yesterday, and no word of a lie, I asked about 7 people and not one person had one on them or at their home.

[bong_man]

In your opinion. In Englands opinion, it's shit. Looks like shit, is shit.

That's why we wont change.

Yeah but sure thats what everyone thought about the pound in Ireland but you get used to it, its way handier when your going abroad and you'll still have something British on the back of the coins. Its seriously shite going upto northern Ireland or over to the uk and having to change your money and getting ripped off doing so! CHANGE IT!! lol

[LIP]

Yeah but sure thats what everyone thought about the pound in Ireland but you get used to it, its way handier when your going abroad and you'll still have something British on the back of the coins. Its seriously shite going upto northern Ireland or over to the uk and having to change your money and getting ripped off doing so! CHANGE IT!! lol

British money is the best money ;)

I dont think we'll ever change - we wont let em.

[dean0000]

I hope we stick with the pound. Why would we want to change to a currency which isnt as strong as the pound. Doesnt make much sense. Also it would cost tax payers shit loads of money to make the switchover.

It pisses me off theres hardly any fivers anymore, and the ones you get are always ripped and dirty. Why cant they just print some more. I think fivers are ripped and dirty because when shops cash up there money to go wherever it goes, the majority of the money is in 10s, 20s, and these notes proberly get burnt and new ones made. But because the shop keeps most the fivers they just go back into circulation.

[geonagual]

There creating the New World Order in right under our noses. Forget countries, soon we will be a global state.


You bet...it is all a part of the master plan...one world, one country, one voice. LOL

If you believe in God and Jesus and all of that...
at the end of Armageddon, it is said that God will set up his government and it, of course, will rule over the entire world.

[smok3y]

I think they look Ok, but I do prefer the old ones..