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krystaaaa x 420
06-30-2007, 05:04 AM
I do smoke cigarettes, but this thread isn't for me. It's about my best friend. She's 16 almost 17 and has been smoking since she was 11. We only met like 2 years ago if that. When she was younger, she had spinalchord cancer, and to this day she has metal rods in her back. Her mom is going through kemo right now due to bladder cancer (caused by cigarettes!). My friend is a very heavy smoker. And she knows, as do I, that if she continues this smoking, her cancer could come back. Seeing as how she's been smoking for 5 years now, it's not so easy to just quit. And there's nothing I can really do or say to make her quit. I've brought it up a few times and said that she should really stop, that we both should. And we've set dates that 'on this day we're gonna quit smoking'... never have. I know I can if I wanted to, but her, I don't think she can. And her family history of cancer isn't good at all, not to mention that she's already had it and is now at a higher risk of it coming back if she keeps it up. Anyway, I really don't know what to do. She is my best friend, and I want the best for her. But when it comes down to it, I guess there really isn't any way to MAKE someone stop smoking. I just wish she would TRY. I really don't know what to do... and if something does happen to her in the future... I'm gonna feel like it's my fault, like I didn't do anything. Idk... :(

RollenJoynts
06-30-2007, 05:07 AM
Every time she lights a cigarette, Snatch it, and put it out on her chest.
Kthxbai.
Lol.

Weedhound
06-30-2007, 05:09 AM
If SHE wants to quit tell her to ask her doctor about this medicine. It worked great for me...

Chantix (http://www.chantix.com/content/Chantix_Branded_Homepage.jsp?setShowOn=../content/Chantix_Branded_Homepage.jsp&setShowHighlightOn=../content/Chantix_Branded_Homepage.jsp)

wannabehippiegirl
06-30-2007, 05:10 AM
try quitting yourself and maybe she will take you as an example to also quit

krystaaaa x 420
06-30-2007, 05:12 AM
try quitting yourself and maybe she will take you as an example to also quit

I did consider that. I think it might work too... I'll try n give it a shot, not gonna be easy but she's my best friend and I know she'd do it for me... not to get all sentimental on ya... lol

wannabehippiegirl
06-30-2007, 05:15 AM
it will also help yall stick with it because you dont want to disappoint the other person or whatever plus youll know someone else is going through withdrawal so youll be like if they can do it so can i

afghooey
06-30-2007, 05:20 AM
try quitting yourself and maybe she will take you as an example to also quit

That's what I'd do. Walk the walk first, then talk the talk.

Once she sees that you were able to quit, tell her that you have faith in her power to do the same. She won't be able to unless she believes she can do it. It's all about attitude. The moment you say, "I can't", you invite failure.

ghosty
06-30-2007, 05:20 AM
Quit with her and be a support, if she's a very heavy smoker, like weedhound said they have pills. Otherwise, buy some patches or gum, and keep a bag of suckers around, part of the addiction is the oral fixaion of having a ciggarette in your mouth, keeping suckers around helps conquer that. It helped me when I was quitting. Now I only smoke socially or when im drinking, which is usually in social situations.

CannabisCrooz
06-30-2007, 06:51 AM
my dad finally quit smoking after years of my bitching. he bought some nicorette and he says it actually works really well. its been a couple weeks and he said the gum really does kill the craving.
i would suggest buying the gum and going to her with the idea of both of you quitting together. do it right away because if you don't its only ever gonna be an idea.
the hardest thing is just starting, so dont waste anymore time and do it RIGHT NOW. not in a week or when this packs out or whatever, just get that shit over with.
what i would try doing at least, good luck. :)

afghooey
06-30-2007, 06:56 AM
Personally I would not use nicorette. When I quit smoking sigs, I quit cold turkey. Yes, it's a bitch. But quitting that nicorette is going to be just as much of a bitch once you get to that point. After the first week or two the physical withdrawal symptoms will be gone. That's the hardest part to go through. But if I was able to do it, so can you.

4twentE
06-30-2007, 07:21 AM
Cold turkey. That's the only way I know that works. I agree with ghosty and hippiegirl. A quitting buddy really helps. Been looking for one of those for a while. Everybody I hang out with smokes and none of them seem to wanna quit all that bad. Starting at 11 has already done serious damage. She needs some kind of example. Especially at her current age, she's likely to set the rest of her life on what peers do for the next few years. I recommend anybody quit smoking. I fucking hate cigarettes with a passion. But can't quit. My biggest mistake in life by a long shot. Good luck with your friend and hopefully yourself too. However it turns out, it's not your fault. Everybody is at their own fault for smoking despite the advice shoved in your face every damn where. I kinda also blame the government for keeping them legal at all.

The Colonel
06-30-2007, 05:19 PM
I kinda also blame the government for keeping them legal at all.

LOL!!

afghooey
07-01-2007, 02:37 AM
I fucking hate cigarettes with a passion. But can't quit.

Yes, you can. Believe it, and then you'll be able to. It worked for me, after smoking for years.

Unless someone else is holding a gun to your head and making you smoke, you can quit. It's just a matter of willpower.

And contrary to popular belief, willpower isn't something that some people naturally have more or less of than other people. Willpower is a choice. The more you choose to exercise it, the stronger it will get.

krystaaaa x 420
07-01-2007, 05:30 AM
you can quit. It's just a matter of willpower.

Willpower may be exactly the problem here. I know I can quit if I really wanted. But idk if she has the willpower TO quit. And like I said, in the end there's nothing you can really do. The person has to want to help themselves. So yea idk... but regret is the worst thing in the world and god forbid anything ever does happen to her, I'm gonna feel like it's my fault.

TheGreenFog
07-02-2007, 12:54 AM
I need to quit, too. :(


The Fog :rastasmoke:

scream
07-02-2007, 06:56 AM
I'm quitting smoking right now and it sucks...Bad...Real Bad...Fuck shit ass bad.

There is an herbal Fasting Tea that has pretty much the same stuff in it as the herbal stop smoking kits that I would recommend. If you like to make your own tea here are the herbs in it. Yogi Tea Online Store | Product Catalog (http://www.c-els.com/sfCatalog.asp?sn=E070720050261146&pchid=69785)
it's on this website. you can probably find it at a health store of some sort around your area too. maybe walmart or hyvee

If you feel like making the tea yourself here is a list of herbs that can help.
(it's another stop smoking thing, but the herb list is pretty comprehensive and gives some good explanations) (http://www.cig-arette.com/ingredients.html)

wannabehippiegirl
07-02-2007, 07:10 AM
I'm quitting smoking right now and it sucks...Bad...Real Bad...Fuck shit ass bad.

There is an herbal Fasting Tea that has pretty much the same stuff in it as the herbal stop smoking kits that I would recommend. If you like to make your own tea here are the herbs in it. Yogi Tea Online Store | Product Catalog (http://www.c-els.com/sfCatalog.asp?sn=E070720050261146&pchid=69785)
it's on this website. you can probably find it at a health store of some sort around your area too. maybe walmart or hyvee

If you feel like making the tea yourself here is a list of herbs that can help.
(it's another stop smoking thing, but the herb list is pretty comprehensive and gives some good explanations) (http://www.cig-arette.com/ingredients.html)
good job!!
dont give up in rooting for ya ;)

4twentE
07-02-2007, 07:49 AM
I'm out of cigarettes now. It's too late to feel like running to the store. Think I'll hit some butts for a few more minutes, go to bed, and try not to buy another pack tomorrow. We'll see how that turns out.

Spoken Word
07-02-2007, 07:57 AM
I'm sorry for skipping the whole thread. I understand tobacco's addictive but it's mind over matter, when it comes down to quitting. Yea I know some people "can't" end certain "addictions" but I've witnessed -many- overcome -most- so I also know it's possible.

It's just that... this comment.

I kinda also blame the government for keeping them legal at all.
made me laugh.:thumbsup:

BlAzInIt4:20
07-02-2007, 08:21 AM
Willpower may be exactly the problem here. I know I can quit if I really wanted. But idk if she has the willpower TO quit. And like I said, in the end there's nothing you can really do. The person has to want to help themselves. So yea idk... but regret is the worst thing in the world and god forbid anything ever does happen to her, I'm gonna feel like it's my fault.

Why would it be your fault? Don't think like that. You need to stay positive most of all for her even if you do or don't quit. You sound like a very dedicated friend, just be sure not to TELL her to quit because then she will feel like she has lost power in your twos relationships, remember best friends think of them selfs as being equal. But im not sure if that you stop smoking it will help much, because it sounds like she smokes more then you do. (not sure if im right here). But if thats the case your jsut going to have to have a heart to heart talk to her, maybe do some research on the cancer that could come back. And get some pictures of what her insides will look like. Make sure you let her know your here to help and not judge her. Make sure she knows you love her, and would never let her down intentionally. I have helped friends off drugs, and its hard work. you have to be consistent with it and follow through. if you decided to quit with her make sure your not sneaking a cigg, because if you end up catching her in the act you cannot say anything.. But most of all this is your best friend you know her better then most. You know how addicted she is, and you know the way her mind thinks. Just work with that. good Luck to you and your friend.. i hope all turns out well..:hippy:

Storm Crow
07-02-2007, 05:54 PM
Honey, you need to quit NOW! Whether or not your friend quits, is HER choice- the best you can do, is to quit for your own health's sake and set a good example for her to follow! You are not ultimately responsible for the actions of others. You can influence others, but we all make our own choices and we must live (or die) with them!

Here's a few things to mull over- Remember that spy who died because of polonium poisoning? Tobacco has radioactive polonium in it! No, I'm not kidding! Read this!

Puffing on Polonium - New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/01/opinion/01proctor.html?ex=1322629200&en=4ee500d70a3216dc&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss)

Try googling "tobacco poisons pesticides and additives"- You won't even want to touch a cigarette, much less smoke one!

Back when I was a biology major in college, one of the profs told us this one- a single drop of nicotine, placed on a rabbit's ear, will kill the rabbit in less than 24 hours (we were discussing absorption of chemicals through the skin).
I use tobacco to kill ants and other garden pests. Tobacco dust was a major pesticide before chemical pesticides hit the market. It is still available in some nurseries, even today.

Ever hear what happens if you eat a cigarette? You can eat a joint with no problems!

And as a final argument against tobacco- I firmly believe it gets in the way of getting high. The surfaces of your lungs need to be clean to work right. Tobacco leaves nasty tar and smoke particles on your lungs. THC needs to come in contact with lung tissue to be absorbed. If a THC molecule hits a bit of ash or tar, will it be in contact with lung tissue? Nope! So tobacco gets in the way of your high! (By the way, get a vaporizer ASAP- much easier on the lungs than smoking.)- Granny:hippy: