First Grow - when should jiffy pellet seedlings be transported to rockwool

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I have recently germenated several seeds and planted them in jiffy pellets. Once I see a sprout should I immediately put the pellet in a 4" rockwool cube?

I'm also realizing the small ready to grow hydro system I've had for a while but never tried to use until now will really only fit jiffy pellets/1" cubes, so I'm going to build my own 3'x2'x4" tray/resivour system soon. If my seeds sprout before I can have it ready, can I water them manually 3 times a day with a ph balanced half strength solution?

I read through the faq's forum and have been reading some books, and havent really found anything to help me make up my mind on this, I hope this post isn't too annoyingly "green" though..

[LOC NAR on probation]

Don't feed them for at least 2 week. Start germing in rock wool starters 1 inch. If you use pellets you should wash them off and go to hydrotron.. If your planning on rockwool ebb and flow then start in rockwool. You can water them till you get your tray made just PH water.

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I was planning on 45 angle drip stakes just plugged into the rockwool. should I still start in rockwool?

[LOC NAR on probation]

I would start in rockwool but you will be alright. We all must give it a try and see what works for you. Sounds good, you been reading that's a good start.

Remember no nutes for 2 weeks at least and then bring it up slow.

GH 3 part is good . I used the lucus formula. Don't forget the Cal-mag plus. It's a must for hydro no mater what nutes you use. Superthrive is good too, it's a B1 complex.

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KILLER!

thanks a bunch Loc.

I picked up timers and hydroton to fill the each container a bit until I get my drip tray ready. btw, do you think I should go with what I was thinking (drip stakes in the rockwool) or an eb and flow system filled with hydroton or clay pellets? right now i'm growing kind of a starter/test crop of bag seed, but I just got my Easy Sativia in the mail (the site I got them from says they're an indica sativia mix) and plan to germinate them soon and until then just get my system set up and see how the bag seeds do. hopefully I can learn from them a little bit until I'm ready for the ES.


p.s they sprouted today! :jointsmile:

[LOC NAR on probation]

You have net pots. I would go with the drip and recirculate. Drop the pump into the rez. I'm not too familar with ebb and flow but drip can run 24/7 without problems. As soon as that sprout comes up good 3 or 4 sets of leaves fill with rocks.
Indoor grows are mostly indica to keep the hieght down but alot are mixed. Indica's can be really stoney.
Yea it's good to learn from the bag seed. Besides most all strain are chronic, it's all in the grow. They will suprize you as to how good they can be. Most bagseed are sativa because they are grown outside to be very tall.

Plant a few of you new seeds and proof them under fluro's then back to veg and you have mothers to clone from . This way you save seeds and time on having males. Cloning is easy.

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perfect. I'm basing my drip design on a video I've been reviewing called "I grow chronic" hosted by a guy painted green. Its in a DVD compilation of a bunch of videos that has been really helpful. found it on bit torrent.

there's also one by a british guy that is really good. he's why I used jiffy pellets. He says all you need to do is soak it in water for five minutes squeeze 20% of the water out and you're good to go, versus the more professional/precise way of using rockwool and making sure your water is a CF of 12 and pH of 5.5

does that sound right?

one more ultra green question; is the conductivity factor (or EC) the same/interchangalble as Parts Per Million?

if so does a CF of 12 mean that you are at/under the safe level of PPM?

one last thing (sorry if this is just a beating)
I'm planning on these meters, do they look alright?

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Jeffrey Winterborne is his name.

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here they are! (5 days old, they sprouted monday)

the tall one really took off today, its "wing span" grew over the course of the day, and you can see the second set of leaves comin in.

how does the distance of my lights look?

horizontal light is a 24" full spectrum dual tube fluoro (20W - 975 lum each)

the vert light is a CFL full spectrum 125W 6400k and it doesnt say the lum

the plants stay under the humidity dome most of the time, I take it off and let the fans hit em for a while at night.

[LOC NAR on probation]

Meters are OK, just make shure you get calibration solution to check them from time to time.. Plants looking good just get the lights as close as you can. Fluro's will not burn them and it keeps the streching down.

[palerider7777]

mine are bag seeds to and they look like yours as well with im starting off with them to test the waters b4 i do my good ones mine is set up in dwc and they seem to love it

[palerider7777]

like loc was saying i too think mine must have been an out door strain bcause mine are getting tall and i know it's not from the light as i have 1400w mh 20 inches away from the plants

[Chabnoc]

Palerider, you have a 1,400 watt MH light?

[palerider7777]

well it's a 1000wmh +1000whps/mh+400w mh in one hood i don't run them all at the same time just the 1000+the 400w for the veg cycle then either the 1000mh +the hps or 1000hps/400mh for the budding

[palerider7777]

if u look close at the last pic u can see the set up of the bulbs

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OH SHIT! Its simply INCREDIBLE how much can happen in a few days days! :rastasmoke:

friday night I went to home depot and started putting together my system (really just needed the wood and tub misc. stuff) finished up saturday with a trip to the local hydro grow shop.. and blamo! my plants are KICKIN

its been exactly a week since they sprouted, I'm just giving them distilled water (10 gal resivour) of pH 5.6 three times a day for fifteen minutes and I generaly mist their foliage daily with pH 5.6 water, lights 18/6, I soaked the rockwool in water of pH 5.0 (thats what it was at when I put them in it rose to 6 over night) for about 14 hours. I'm thinking about getting some kind of root suppliment like "rapid root" and then add actual nutrients a week from now.. does that sound good/ok/bad? thanks for any help that can be offered.

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couple more pics..

[palerider7777]

super thrive is good i see and have heard good things about it

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thanks a bunch pale!

how's your crop?

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day 8...

new seedlings, these are the easy sativa's

(they sprouted yesterday)

[palerider7777]

it's doin good so far the stalks on sum of them look like there getting thicker

[columkee]

keep them in there present state till they're about 5 to 6 inches then plant them into your final medium. if your growing indoors don't use rockwool to grow them in. go to a hydro store and get some cocos medium. i use it as it's sterile and you will not introduce any parasites to your grow room, most parasites are introduced to a garden by the medium you use. i've tried other products and i will never use anything else. i have a pretty large grow and hydro is the way to go. don't skimp on the chemicals , use the good stuff and it will reflect in your yeild...........good luck

[PharmaCan]

Spectrum - I grow in coco, so I'm not going to dis it, but going to coco at this point would be an entirely different grow system and really isn't a good idea.

JMO

PC:smokin:

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well, either way its a little late now for the first group..

as you can see in the pics, I moved them into square pots in hydroton. they're not looking as good as they could.. I have a bunch more goin (easy sativa) about 4 in 1" cubes and 4 in 4" cubes. Should I go a different route with these?

and this is probably too broad of a question but.. I have Skunk 1 seeds I havent germinated yet, what would be ideal for them, medium-wise? (keeping in mind that I am using a basic drip system)