Starting my first Indoor Grow!

[princedapimp4]

hey everyone. I just started my first indoor growing system last week. I am using a hydrofarm 160 watt vegetative bulb, foxfarm organic soil, and some kick ass nutrients called "Heavy Harvest: Advanced Nutrients" (this shit rocks!! also growing 6 outdoor:4 neville's haze, 1 blueberry, and 1 big bud using this stuff. Beefy ass stems! will post pics within the next few days). In my indoor system i am growing 2 Blueberry plants and 1 Neville's Haze. i am also germinating 1 more blueberry as we speak. :) I will post pics for the indoor newbies either tomorrow or the day after, along with the beefy outdoor plants (the 4 neville's haze are looking to be around 7 feet at finish)!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[princedapimp4]

Here's a follow up to my post showing the 6 outdoor plants that i have going right now. picture 1 shows a female Big Bud plants that is around 5 feet tall at the moment :)! picture 2 shows a female Neville's Haze plant that is around 5 1/2 feet. Picture 3 shows a overshot of the 4 outdoor plants (picture 1 and 2 along with 2 other neville's haze which sex has not been determined. one of the undetermined plants is 6 feet tall!!!) at location 1. picture 4 shows a 4 feet tall blueberry plant that is a male:mad:!!! picture 5 shows a small Big bug plant whose sex is still undetermined. overall 2/4 at location 1 with females. the other 2 are still waiting to be determined. At location 2 the blueberry plant that i have been drooling over has showed to pesky lil flowers which i have come to hate. the other small big bud plant is undetermined so im debating if i will let the blueberry pollinate the big bud if its a female:D overall good showing. :rastasmoke:

[princedapimp4]

i have finally got around to taking some pictures of my indoor closet grow. picture 1 on the top left is an overshot of the four plants i have growing (3 blueberry, 1 big bud). picture 2 in the middle of the top row shows a small blueberry plant about 2 weeks old. picture 3 shows a large 4 week old blueberry plant. picture 4 on the bottom left is a 3 week old big bud plant. my height restricitions in the closet is about 6 feet by 3 feet so ill be looking to get some moderate size plants. i also just receieved some low ryder 2 seeds so i might use them in the next grow!!:) also came across a nice cross between mango and purple:D very fruity and sweet aroma. trying to get some seeds of that cross.

[princedapimp4]

also my plants are really starting to smell throughout the house and they are only 3-4 weeks old and are still vegetating. i was looking into a carbon filter and wanted to get some suggestions before i purchased one. any help? i went to the local longs and bought a shit load of glade plug ins haha to hold me over until i purchased the filter.

[Dutch Pimp]

...I never get tired of seeing pics of a grower grow....:thumbsup:....nice plants...:pimp:....

[princedapimp4]

thanks alot dutch. hopefully ill be getting a good harvest!!:rastasmoke:

[Dutch Pimp]

...good lawn furniture, like yours, insures good harvest...helps everybody chill.....:thumbsup:....

[AR15]

also my plants are really starting to smell throughout the house and they are only 3-4 weeks old and are still vegetating. i was looking into a carbon filter and wanted to get some suggestions before i purchased one. any help? i went to the local longs and bought a shit load of glade plug ins haha to hold me over until i purchased the filter.

You could always build your own (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/99371-diy-how-carbon-filter.html). Hope that helps.

Nice looking plants btw, good luck :thumbsup:

[princedapimp4]

what kind of yield should i expect if i have two females that are about 4 feet tall?

[Tomthehippie]

...good lawn furniture, like yours, insures good harvest...helps everybody chill.....:thumbsup:....

lol!

[princedapimp4]

haha definately!

[oliwog]

lookin nice i like ya outdoor ones ive got some blueberry on tha grow at mo at 3-4 weeks too il put a thread on here im jus havin trouble postin pics at the mo

[princedapimp4]

ill post some more pictures within the next few days of the outdoor and indoor plants. how are flourescent lights when it comes to developing buds. i have a 400 watt hps system but that things creates hell on earth and im afraid that it will get way too hot in my grow area. not to mention the cost to run that thing. right now im still using the hydrofarm 120 watt flor. light and 2 2' foot cool flourescent lights as supplemental lighting. any suggestions?

[princedapimp4]

will i be fine budding the plants with the flourescent lights? pics coming tomorrow around 1pm:thumbsup:

[princedapimp4]

here are some updated pictures of the indoor grow!:thumbsup:
picture 1-2(top left and top middle) are pictures of a blueberry plant. Picture 3 (top right) is a picture of another smaller blueberry plant. picture 4 (bottom left) is an overshot of all 4 plants. Picture 5 (bottom right) is a close up of a smaller big bud plant. So far the plants are about 4-5 weeks into vegetative stage. The large blueberry plant is very healthy and starting to get very purplish stems. i am going to continue vegetating for another 2-3 weeks and will flower with a 400 watt hps system on a 12/12 cycle. i am aiming to harvest around mid september. :rastasmoke: yahhh mahnnn!

[princedapimp4]

any suggestions on lighting to optimize bud density?

[Dutch Pimp]

...the 400 HPS will grow some serious buds ...if you can control the heat...I use a/c..blowing between top of plants and the light...75-85 degrees is best...:pimp:....

[princedapimp4]

the onyl thing about an a/c is they are pricey to run and expensive to buy. i wonder if a downgrade to 250 watts would make a difference.

[Tomthehippie]

What you feeding them on at the mo? :)

[princedapimp4]

its called advanced nutrients:heavy harvest. there are three different cycles (spring, summer, and march) that feed to plants. im using these for the indoor plants as well with the outdoor ones. the outdoor plants are around 6-7 feet so far and have just recently started showing signs of male/female. i will attach some updated pics of the outdoor grow soon. here is the link for the nuts im using: https://www.advancednutrients.com/catalog/us/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=heavy+harvest&x=0&y=0&gclid=COHxuuzhnY0CFQQRYwod9zKl6Q

[princedapimp4]

i need some advice. i was reading up on lighting and came across a few sites that said in order to harvest "good" marijuana you need to provide around 45,000 lumens. right now i am using only about 12,000 lumens. i'm aiming to get very dense buds. i was also debating about downgrading from a 400 hps system to 250 hps system to flower so there would not be such a drastic increase in temperature and electricity usage. right now my electricity bill is around $50 a month including the lighting of the plants (currently using about 200 watts for lighting right now). if i use the 400 watt hps system will i have to buy an air conditioning unit or is there any other way to reduce the temperature without purchasing an a/c. please give advice!!!:(

[twoguysupnorth]

good ventilation and fans? right, an ac and a 400 might make a jump in the bill but i dont know how much. use the 400 if at all possible. what is the length/width of the closet? it might be better to get a 250 but what is the area that you have?

[princedapimp4]

im currently growing in the closet but have a spare bedroom available to grow in. the dimension of the closets is about 10 feet high by 3 feet wide by 4 feet long. the dimensions of the spare room is about 12 feet by 15 feet.

[twoguysupnorth]

first, if you are already using 200w for lighting a 250 wouldnt make a diff in the cost but would be alot better, and a 400w would be twice the cost to run the lights. my 150w and fan only made a difference of about 5$ a month. so if you figure the numbers out it would only make about 10$ difference than what you are paying. other people say around 50w per sq ft to grow plants but i have read that it can be as low as 30w per sq ft and still get good solid budding. i did mine right in the middle, 40w's, thats why i asked the size of your space. if your 400 does get too hot all i can say is good ventilation and air movement. your closet should hold your 4 plants and the 400 light easily enough. otherwise use your spare room, sorry im not being more help it just seems that you can do it in a closet of that size without to much trouble. especially if you are going to get a fan and carbon filter, exhaust it into your spare room instead of letting it run inside of the closet.

[princedapimp4]

thanks alot for the help! i think ill try the 400 watt and see how it goes.

[princedapimp4]

how much of a rise in temp. should i expect by running this thing 12/12 during the day?

[princedapimp4]

anyone know what the rise in temp will be if i leave open the window in my grow room and open the top door that leads into the attic and use a large fan to circulate the air?

[princedapimp4]

also very bummed out:( the large blueberry plant (shown in the indoor grow pics in the middle of the overshot) turned male. i still have 3 other plants but they are still much smaller than the male. i chopped em down today and started LST the others. will include pics within 24 hours:wtf:

[twoguysupnorth]

i cant really say about the rise in temps with your 400w but two different posts here mentioned that they had an 8 deg rise in temps in their closet/boxes with the light. it depends, will opening the window let in hotter air than what you have in the room? it sounds like a good idea to open your attic door since heat rises. hope this helps. i cant really be specific about this because my light is smaller, most of this i just found out buy reading others posts and magazines. sorry about your BB. sometimes seeds are good.

[princedapimp4]

thanks alot man. that really helps me out. i've been slacking off posting pics so i will have some up soon. The LST is going very well!

[princedapimp4]

here are the recent pics of my last 3 plants using LST. the top left pic is an overshot of the three plants. i will continue to veg for another 2 weeks and will flower with a 250 hps system. im debating on using either a large 125 cfl flower bulb or large 125 cfl veg bulb as supplemental lighting. which one should i go with as the supplemental lighting (the veg or flower bulb)? :)

[princedapimp4]

whats the best way to optimize LST? should i trim the lower fan leaves or leave them alone until i flower?

[Weedhound]

One small piece of advice from reading your post. You want big rewards (I want "dense buds") then HID lighting, electrical bills, and ventilation and cooling will be the price you have to pay. If you skimp now it will definitely show up at the end.......when it's too late to fix. ;)

[princedapimp4]

yea. the price to pay for some home grown chronic haha. thanks for the input

[PharmaCan]

here are the recent pics of my last 3 plants using LST. the top left pic is an overshot of the three plants. i will continue to veg for another 2 weeks and will flower with a 250 hps system. im debating on using either a large 125 cfl flower bulb or large 125 cfl veg bulb as supplemental lighting. which one should i go with as the supplemental lighting (the veg or flower bulb)? :)

I think it's Sun that is now putting out a dual-bulb fixture (MH & HPS), which would essentially be the same, spectrum wise, as if you used your HPS with the veg cfl. Sun probably has some research and related propaganda available explaining why this is a good thing.

PC :thumbsup:

[princedapimp4]

sounds interesting! ill look into it. thanks

[CRIME IN STEREO]

hey, that sounds liek a pretty big closet, i think the best thing for you to do would be to vent all the hot air into your attic, and that should be able to keep the temps down. also, do you already have the 400 watt HPS, or are you wondering which one you should buy? if your gunna buy one, and your still worried about temps, then just get a 250 watt, you only have 3 plants. and also, i think it was said earlier, but dont bother buying a carbon filter, just make one yourself with some panty hose chicken wire and cat littler...id never buy one now that i know how easy they are to make...

[princedapimp4]

it seems pretty easy to make. where can you buy the activated carbon?

[smknacig]

I got a freind with same size closet. He tryed the 400w MH/HPS and got too hot. He ended up with the Cool tube system. Bulb sit in a glass tube and you duct 4 inch tube in and out with an inline 4inch fan. you loose a little lummens but temps were controlled. I just searched it on ebay (Cool Tube) If your out of options,, Good luck

[twoguysupnorth]

google activated carbon for an online source or you can get it from the pet store for fish tanks, but i think its pretty expensive that way.

[princedapimp4]

thanks alot for the input!will look into the cool tube system if it gets too hot in the room.

[princedapimp4]

when LST'ing is it best to trim the lower fan leaves?

[twoguysupnorth]

i wouldnt unless they were really getting in the way of something. i used to trim leaves off, but i now stick to the belief that any extra area to soak up light and produce food is good for the plant.

[princedapimp4]

alright. thanks for the input

[princedapimp4]

it has been a while since i posted anything. Have some bad news to inform!:mad: at one location where i was growing 1 blueberry and 1 big bud plant, the remaining big bud got chopped off the stem and stolen! even though it was not even budding! ridiculous! so im very pissed off about that but on a good note i still have the other 4 plants going at the other location:cool: in my indoor setup i have 2 plants remaining (2 were males). i will post pics soon! i will start budding period friday using 400 hps. :)

[princedapimp4]

im also germinating more seeds for veg closet

[Tox]

I starting my first grow also.. ive got 3 seeds to germinate and only one is growing...
What are the odds of just one plant growing to be a female?

[HighTillIDie]

...if electricity is a big issue, do yourself a favor and modernize your home... i swapped out all my lights to cfls (not all at once but over a month) and saved about 15 dollars right off the rip... i also weatherstrip and caulk EVERYTHING so it is easier and cheaper to maintain the enviroment...

if heat is an issue... ventilate.... suck COOL air into your room, near the lights... of course exhaust should be near the plants for smell and the bulbs for heat...

and... they do sell little 5k btu 90$ a/c's at lowes.... not that expensive to run

[princedapimp4]

well i have some good and bad news once again. originally, i had 4 plants going in the closet but now i am narrowed down to 2 females, the other 2 were males:cool: i guess not too bad but i was hoping for about 3. i had originally planned to flower last friday but the plants are still fairly small (only about 15 inches) but very bushy. i will continue to veg for another week and flower using 400 hps. It sucks that i only have two smaller plants but in this case i guess its the experience that matters, not the yield. as long as i get a 1/2 of some prime bud ill be happy haha

[FireTheft]

look at the bright side my friend it coulda been worse :jointsmile:

looking good ... how's the LST working I'm thinking about trying that myself.....it seems ideal if you have a small grow space

[Cervantez]

Hey bor, pics are looking great!!!! Nice job outdoors!!
http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/122430-cervante-s-closet.html#post1512807