Twisting Lettuce and the Wild Bunch !!!

[luckychiken]

Hey smoking people !!!

This is my third thread about this growth. :thumbsup:
First post about the room http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/106360-need-2nd-opinion-2x250hps-x-space-anyone.html#post1298667
Second post about some problems http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/117728-twisting-plant-help.html#post1451025

Well. I always need some comments on the growth.
And it is nice to hear opinions about what to do with this babies.
This is my first indoor growth soâ?¦ help me with it. ;)

My lamps are 2 HPS of 250W and I do not intend to buy another one sooner.
Temps are below 28 degrees and humidity is between 20 to 40 every day.

The little girls are 40 days from seeds and 30 days from soil. 2 of them are only 20 days.
I think the growth is fine speacially in the white widows. :D

I´m not going to buy any CO2 and my knowledge of Nutes is cero.
Since this is my first grow I would love to keep it simple.

Wish me good luck for a good smoke.
Thanks

Luckychiken :jointsmile:

[luckychiken]

Check them out !

[faithlessxxx]

Looking good.
Forget co2, you need really professional equipment for that.

[luckychiken]

Hi THC Crew !

This are from yesterday, we are 47 days from seed, 37 from soil.
How are we doing ?
When do you guys recommend to start some clones ?
When do you think it is suitable for these babies to go to Flowering ?
Any help will be apreciated. :thumbsup:

Thanks

[luckychiken]

Well...
As I can see no one is interested in some healthy good growing plants.
So here is another good picture of my good plants for no one.
At least my friends will look it because they are already tasting the smoke.
Any commnents. ?

[invision]

so far they look pretty good and i also hear blueberry will twist sometimes so dont fret too much about it, also i would transplant into 12" pots and then flower them, maybe even look into LSTing them a bit for side shoot production?

[postmandave]

are you using tap water.If so are you deflourinating it?(letting it sit24/48 hours before use)I can see what looks like a magnesium and calcium problem begging its not to serious though it can become a problem, something to keep an eye out for;) white wodow look nice stroing plants.the blueberry well thats just blueberry for you:wtf:.nice grow.dave.

Ohh i ask cause the flouride in the tap water can lock out magnesium and calcium i had this problem for a while.exect same symtoms.

[Big len]

looking very good althouth you will probably break down and by some nutes flora grow and flora bloom are a couple I like.
Big Len

[TheGreenFog]

are you using tap water.If so are you deflourinating it?(letting it sit24/48 hours before use)...

Ohh i ask cause the flouride in the tap water can lock out magnesium and calcium i had this problem for a while.exect same symtoms.

I thought it was DECHLORINATING it...I thought leaving it sit out was to remove the chlorine (CL)? I didn't know the Floride evaporated off as well...and blocked out MG & CA. Interesting.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[luckychiken]

Dear All:

ABout the sizer, Invision advised me to replant into 12´´ pots, they are 12´´ pots. more than 30 centimeters.

About the water, Postmandave, well... I have just used regular tap water. Not letting it sit as you mentioned. So I will start that as from today. So maybe taking the fluoride is helpfull for all that things you says.

Hey Madman. Thanks for keeping over my post . I will place some new pictures within this weekend. Your grows kick ass.

To all of you outthere.- The babies are getting bigger. They are almost filling up the room. You will see in the future pics. Now they are 2 month old from seed. So I supouse soon we are heading to flowering. So far I have seen some little female hairs on a few of them, but not yet in all.

I was wondering when do you think is good idea to clone ?
When do you think it is a good idea to go into flowering ?
Will I smoke it in september ? Will you guys come to get a hit of it ?:hippy:

Hahaajajhah. Anyway.... just have to get back to work.
Thanks

To biglen, this is my first grow, So I´m afraid of nutes still. I do not want to get so messy. I´m just happy that my lights are working. For future grows there is a lot to do . Thanks
:smokin:

[luckychiken]

Hey everyone..the pictures I promised...and some new problems.. please help

[luckychiken]

just posting nothing so my thread goes back up and someone might clear out my doubts

[stinkyattic]

Cholride AND flouride are both added to tap water- even Bromide I believe has sometimes been used in water treatment applications. Either way, Fl and Cl exist as a gas at standard conditions and will evap off.

[khronik]

Err, there's a big difference between chloride and chlorine. Chlorine is a gas, and you can smell it. It's very dangerous in its gas form, but colloquially "chlorine" usually refers to sodium hypochlorite, which is added to water as a disinfectant.

Chloride on the other hand, is the ion form of chlorine, and you can't smell it. For instance, sodium chloride is common table salt, which you can't smell. It also doesn't evaporate. Fluoride is likewise the ion form of fluorine, and usually exists as sodium fluoride, which is added to drinking water at extremely low levels because of its beneficial effects on tooth formation. Like sodium chloride, sodium fluoride also does not evaporate.

Letting water sit will allow some of the sodium hypochlorite to turn into sodium chloride, which is less harmful to plants, but the chloride and fluoride ions will stay behind in the water.

[stinkyattic]

If I had meant that chloride would evap off, I would have written Cl-, the notation for chloride ION, where Cl is simply the notation for elemental chlorine.
Luckily, I am aware that the negatively-charged chloride ions would have to combine into Cl2, Chlorine GAS, before evaporating off. The presence or absence of other chemicals (including dissolved O2), and pH levels, in the water drives this equilibrium.
Bleach in the water isn't good for plants- most plants are pretty sensitive to sodium. They need a small amount, but too much is deadly.

[khronik]

Well, I was just trying to point out that fluoride (and chloride for that matter) would not evaporate out of water. But if you want to get technical...

Chloride is not added to tap water. Chloride ions will never recombine to form chlorine gas, at least as long as the ionic solution isn't electrolyzed. When water is chlorinated, sodium hypochlorite is added, not chlorine gas. This exists in equilibrium with a small quantity of hypochlorous acid, which smells the same as chlorine gas. This is because chlorine gas turns into hypochlorous acid when it reacts with the linings of our nasal passages. However, chlorine gas is MUCH more dangerous.

Anyway, to the original poster:
Hola! No estoy cierto si es posible a saber el sexo de su planta blueberry. Tiene flores? si no, es posible que tienes una nina. Pero, no se que es la problema de su otre planta.

If my spanish is terrible, I can try again in english. :D

[stinkyattic]

Chloride ions will never recombine to form chlorine gas, at least as long as the ionic solution isn't electrolyzed
......
This is because chlorine gas turns into hypochlorous acid when it reacts with the linings of our nasal passages.

I stand corrected; I am under the impression however that fluctuations in pH also will drive Cl out of solution.

And interesting bit of info: Smell receptors for Cl2.

[luckychiken]

BOYZ:... I can´t understand none of the things u saying.
This is getting tooo technical. I will post up some new pics today So everyone can give me more accurate advice.

Thanks

[stinkyattic]

DUDE. I'm a chick. F'real.

[khronik]

I stand corrected; I am under the impression however that fluctuations in pH also will drive Cl out of solution.
Yeah, acids will make a sodium hypochlorite solution release chlorine gas. Ammonia will do this too. Actually, this can be a problem, if someone is cleaning a nasty stale-urine-filled toilet with bleach. Urea, the main ingredient in urine, decomposes into ammonia, which can release chlorine gas from bleach.


BOYZ:... I can´t understand none of the things u saying.
This is getting tooo technical. I will post up some new pics today So everyone can give me more accurate advice.

Thanks
Actually, all that talk about fluoride and chlorine probably doesn't matter for your purposes.

The tall lanky plant is probably just a sativa phenotype, not necessarily a male. You won't be able to distinguish between the sexes until the plants flower.

On the lighter white widow plant, are the lower leaves yellow? It's hard to tell in the picture, but if so, that would mean you probably have a problem.

[stinkyattic]

khronik I DID bring up the pH thing in my earlier post :D lol this is what happens when too many geeks are on the same thread.

When it comes right down to nuts and bolts, a soil grower RARELY has to worry about the tap water. Even if your tap water sucks, a lot of the time it's a pH issue and enough humic acid in the soil (the reason you should grow in composted humus if you don't like testing pH) will buffer you in the proper range.
A product called Soil Syrup also does the trick- it's humic acid and also makes a FANTASTIC flushing solution if you get salt buildup in the soil, because aside from being a wonderful buffer, humic acid is also a chelating agent! Yay.

[GrowinGreen23]

Looking good.
Forget co2, you need really professional equipment for that.

not really! seltzer works well at room temp

GG23

[stinkyattic]

By 'well' what do you mean? It's one of the most expensive and inefficient sources of CO2 around.

Plus for a CO2 boost to be effective, you need to have everything else dialed in right, and control over your ventilation so you aren't just blowing it out of the grow area.

[GrowinGreen23]

well you can shut the fans off for an hour so that the CO2 can rise up and be brought in by the plant. when i say WELL i mean that it can help to a small degree it's not a CO2 bottle being time released into the grow room but it's better then nothing. It'll help

GG23

[luckychiken]

Hey boyz and girls
thanks for the advice. Here are some new pics so you can help me with
FIRST PIC. The whole family
Second one. Added 15-15-15 to the yellow leaves WW. Look ther progress.
Third Pic. Burned leaves on other WW Plant. This happend only in 1 stratus of the plant. Not on the top, not on the botton.
Fourth pic. Some 3 plants showing sex as female. 2 of them still not

Thanks

[luckychiken]

Also some individual pictures of each plant.

[stinkyattic]

Lookin good, blueberry 2 is sulfur deficient and very rootbound.
All the plants are due for a repot based on their size and bushiness.
The Church is gorgeous.