First time being tested (Quick Fix)

[reezykeezy]

Whattup yall, first post ever for me here.
ok, so i got hired at this hotel in town and they want me to come in tomorrow for paper work and most likely a drug test. i know for sure that they test because it said it on the application.

i just bought some Quick Fix, and this being my first time even taking a drug test i'm kinda nervous. the good news is i had a friend who worked there a few years ago, and he said no one watched him piss at the lab they tested him at.

i know im just beng paranoid but can anyone give me any tips or sure fire strategies on making this a smooth process? i've been reading that the QF bottle makes a 'sucking' noise and that worries me a bit.

any info will be appreciated, THANKS!:jointsmile:

[reezykeezy]

i know the QF comes with instructions, but i trust you guys more. should i just heat the piss until its at about 98 degrees then strap the heat pad around it? thanks

[winston3338]

I wish I knew. I will test today and had QF in the car and it is 94 degrees with no pad. Like You I will find out soon..

[geonagual]

Turn the heater on in the car and hold the bottle up next to it...getting it hotter..then strap the heating pad...get it up to temp and stash in your drawers..make sure it is secured in some manner and then just go in and pour it in the cup...you should be right in the 96-98 range..and then hasta la vista..we have fucked the man again...Good luck and have fun with it.

[reezykeezy]

thanks man .,... the weather is like 100 degrees u think i could just microwave it then heat pad it?

[FakeBoobsRule]

i just bought some Quick Fix, and this being my first time even taking a drug test i'm kinda nervous. the good news is i had a friend who worked there a few years ago, and he said no one watched him piss at the lab they tested him at.

i know im just beng paranoid but can anyone give me any tips or sure fire strategies on making this a smooth process? i've been reading that the QF bottle makes a 'sucking' noise and that worries me a bit.

any info will be appreciated, THANKS!:jointsmile:

Did you read the thread on substitution by IAmN2POT? It has many helpful ideas. First of all, employment tests (U.S.) are not observed unless you give them cause. Next you need to practice securing the bottle to your body and getting it up to temp and keeping it there. There is a temp strip on the bottle so practicing is easy. QF can be heated and cooled repeatedly. I never use any heating pad because if you practice it is easy. You have till tomorrow so go practice. You have 4 minutes in the bathroom to give the sample. Don't squirt it out too fast and it will not make the sound.

[geonagual]

thanks man .,... the weather is like 100 degrees u think i could just microwave it then heat pad it?


Yeah, you could do that too. LOL

[reezykeezy]

i called them and im just gonna take it today. i wanna get this shit over with! thanks yall

[imitator]

I use QF for all my tests, and the simple solution is... just take the damn lid off when you go to poor it into the cup...

I was always told at every single test that if you had to pee more then what would fill the cup to exactly the line, to do so in the toliet... So I just pour my QF into the cup, and then piss in the toliet to make them think I really did it.

The only hard part is temp management, just make sure to check it before you pour, if it isnt the right temp, then for the love of god say you cant piss, drink some water, and wait until its warm enough.

I havent been to a place yet that wouldnt let you stay for an extra hour or two if you couldnt pee, since you fail if you leave without pissing.

[winston3338]

i called them and im just gonna take it today. i wanna get this shit over with! thanks yallSAME HERE!!! I just rubber-banded the pad to the bottle and in Vegas today it is 106 outside...Heat is no problem. Going to Quest Diag. and that sucks.

[imitator]

SAME HERE!!! I just rubber-banded the pad to the bottle and in Vegas today it is 106 outside...Heat is no problem. Going to Quest Diag. and that sucks.

Make sure its not too warm either. Bodily fluids dont vary much in temp, so if you arent within something like 2 degrees or so from the optimal temp, they will DQ you, be it too cold or too warm.

[geonagual]

You got it in the bag

[FakeBoobsRule]

Make sure its not too warm either. Bodily fluids dont vary much in temp, so if you arent within something like 2 degrees or so from the optimal temp, they will DQ you, be it too cold or too warm.

The temperature range is 90-100 not + or - 2 degrees.

[imitator]

The temperature range is 90-100 not + or - 2 degrees.

BS.

I failed a test with a temp of 92 degree's before.

No one is going to be pissing 90 degree piss.

[FakeBoobsRule]

You are right about one thing, no one will piss 90 degrees. But the cup is plastic and absorbs heat and can lower the temp because what is room temperature? It isn't 98.6 degrees in most rooms is it. So to account for heat loss you get a temp range of 90-100 degrees. Go get a drug testing form. There is a box that says "Is the sample provided in the range of 90-100 degrees" and a little check box for it.

If you failed for 92 degrees then you aren't telling the whole story or someone made a mistake or someone just didn't like you.

[imitator]

It failed the proper warmth to the touch test that most techs do. That caused them to check the tempature strip, which read 92 degrees. To make sure it wasnt the strip being wrong, they even poured it into a fresh cup, and the temp stayed the same.

I have never in all the drug tests I have taken heard anyone say that 90 degrees was passing. Maybe its just every drug testing center in Huntsville AL and Marquette MI, but thats how its always been. Within 2(sometimes 3 if they are really nice) degrees of 97/98 or else fail.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Imitator, this is from the big bad book of protocols drug test collectors must follow:

Subpart E - Urine Specimen Collections

§ 40.65 What does the collector check for when the employee presents a specimen?
As a collector, you must check the following when the employee gives the collection container to you:
(a) Sufficiency of specimen. You must check to ensure that the specimen contains at least 45 mL of urine. (1) If it does not, you must follow â??shy bladderâ?� procedures (see §40.193(b)).
(2) When you follow â??shy bladderâ?� procedures, you must discard the original specimen, unless another problem (i.e., temperature out of range, signs of tampering) also exists.
(3) You are never permitted to combine urine collected from separate voids to create a specimen.
(4) You must discard any excess urine.
(b) Temperature. You must check the temperature of the specimen no later than four minutes after the employee has given you the specimen.
(1) The acceptable temperature range is 32â??38 °C/90â??100 °F.
(2) You must determine the temperature of the specimen by reading the temperature strip attached to the collection container.
(3) If the specimen temperature is within the acceptable range, you must mark the â??Yesâ?� box on the CCF (Step 2).
(4) If the specimen temperature is outside the acceptable range, you must mark the â??Noâ?� box and enter in the â??Remarksâ?� line (Step 2) your findings about the temperature.
(5) If the specimen temperature is outside the acceptable range, you must immediately conduct a new collection using direct observation procedures (see §40.67).
(6) In a case where a specimen is collected under direct observation because of the temperature being out of range, you must process both the original specimen and the specimen collected using direct observation and send the two sets of specimens to the laboratory. This is true even in a case in which the original specimen has insufficient volume but the temperature is out of range. You must also, as soon as possible, inform the DER and collection site supervisor that a collection took place under direct observation and the reason for doing so.

Your story sounds suspect because they should have made you provide a second sample anyway and not just "well it was 92 and I failed."

[reezykeezy]

hey guys ... just got back from the hotel that hired me ...


THEY DIDNT EVEN TEST ME!!! i was 100% sure they were going to .....

i start tomorrow .... any way they try to test me tomorrow??? sould i get the QF ready tomorrow and nut it again???

[winston3338]

Yes, Yes, Yes... I took QF to My interview today and left it in the car and just as they said...Your hired She asked if I would go take a test, Now and I was ready. Just don't use the heat pad.

[reezykeezy]

good shit ... i still might by a heat pad .. somewhere in this forum someone said that a pad they got heated it to like 98 or 99. congrats to you on the job ... and me!

[winston3338]

good shit ... i still might by a heat pad .. somewhere in this forum someone said that a pad they got heated it to like 98 or 99. congrats to you on the job ... and me!Thanks, You too. One pad disscused here is ThermaCare: Neck to Arm Heat Wraps.

[reezykeezy]

quick question about the QUICK FIX.

so like i said i bought it but didnt have to use it ... how long until it goes bad? will it even go bad at all?

[winston3338]

quick question about the QUICK FIX.

so like i said i bought it but didnt have to use it ... how long until it goes bad? will it even go bad at all?2 Year shelf life and the company has some kind of replacement deal when they go to 5.0.

Cheap QF

QUICK FIX SYNTHETIC URINE (http://www.mystoresupplier.com/QUICK_FIX_p/ms142.htm)

[FakeBoobsRule]

2 Year shelf life and the company has some kind of replacement deal when they go to 5.0.


I think it is closer to 18 months. The manufactor date is encoded somewhere on the bottle. It is a great company though because they did the same replacement deal with 3.0 to 4.0 which was the addition of creatinine I think.

[imitator]

Imitator, this is from the big bad book of protocols drug test collectors must follow:

Your story sounds suspect because they should have made you provide a second sample anyway and not just "well it was 92 and I failed."

They asked me to take another. But I wasnt going to actually piss so it came up positive, I wanted to keep my job.

I came up with a BS excuse about having a meeting to go to and no time to take it again. They failed me, but I spoke to the employer and told them the same BS and they were willing to let me take the test again.

That time, I made sure to have the heating pad on, it in the proper place, and I checked the temp before pouring, as I realized its easier to say I cant piss yet then it is to piss clean after you wasted your clean sample.

[bluemoon]

dude check it out. I just tested a few days ago, and I tested 3 heat pads.

QF heat pad was way too hot.

The Icy hot big pads were too hot, but the icy hot small pads (only half, not the full 2 pieces) were heated to 99-100f, to 10 seconds from heat pad to goto 98-99.

Really man, it worked no issues. I didnt feel secure enough without pad, even with all the practicing. Im happy I included it.

[imitator]

Did they change pads recently with QF? I found that when I followed the instructions, heated up the bottle with the liquid in the microwave to above the top temp marker on the bottle, (about 20 seconds iirc), and then put the activated pad on there, tucked it between the legs and went to the testing site that it was perfect temp by the time I got in to pee.

Took a few tries worth of practice. Thankfully the QF can be reheated if need be, so I ran quite a few practice runs to make sure temp wouldnt be a problem.

[reezykeezy]

i go in today for my 1st day in 2 hours. i just practiced with the QF lodged in my tighties in my gooch and it only took 10-12 minutes to warm to 92degrees. granted i was laying down with my legs crossed though. it would be smart to warm it up and wrap a heat pad just to be cautious right? do they have to tell you a day in advance before the test?:smokin:

[FakeBoobsRule]

They asked me to take another. But I wasnt going to actually piss so it came up positive, I wanted to keep my job.

I came up with a BS excuse about having a meeting to go to and no time to take it again. They failed me, but I spoke to the employer and told them the same BS and they were willing to let me take the test again.

That time, I made sure to have the heating pad on, it in the proper place, and I checked the temp before pouring, as I realized its easier to say I cant piss yet then it is to piss clean after you wasted your clean sample.
OK, see that makes sense and I'm sorry they failed you the first time but I'm glad you got through it. Next time know that 90-100 is the range and if they fail you know your rights. There is a comment section for the temp after the yes or no boxes. Tell them to record the actual temp in the comment field and send it off. If the collectors are that incompetent, the MRO will see everything and work through it. :thumbsup:

[winston3338]

dude check it out. I just tested a few days ago, and I tested 3 heat pads.

QF heat pad was way too hot.

The Icy hot big pads were too hot, but the icy hot small pads (only half, not the full 2 pieces) were heated to 99-100f, to 10 seconds from heat pad to goto 98-99.

Really man, it worked no issues. I didnt feel secure enough without pad, even with all the practicing. Im happy I included it.When I pulled out My QF it was at 100 degrees. It was in the pouch of My fruit of the looms for a hour and a half. It was a paper heat pouch with a sand like substance in it. It stayed hot for at least 5 hours.

[reezykeezy]

officially testing today, finally gettin this shit overwith.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Good Luck, you will be ok if you did a little bit of practicing.

[winston3338]

Good Luck and F the Man

[imitator]

Gluck, QF is the best way I have found to screw over the man.

[reezykeezy]

faaa shhhoooo thanks guys. i been practicing like a mofo. happy testing!

[ames5464]

How long would it take a daily smoker, female 105lbs to get clean???

[FakeBoobsRule]

Your height and physical activity level would be helpful. It could be 1-60 days so the best way, get a home test!

[reezykeezy]

yo FAKEBOOBSRULE! so i took my test today ... filled the cup with the QF ... then i COULDNT PISS ... i couldnt piss in the toilet to make it seem legit .. so i poored the QF back into my bottle and told them i couldnt piss!!! i have to go in tomorrow morning ...i'm a bit worried cuz i barely could fill to the line with the QF cuz i tried to poor some in the toilet as a decoy but that didnt pan out ...

ANYWAY

i need your help... can i add to my QF with tap or bottled water to make it more??? help me fakeboobs...you havent let me down yet!

[imitator]

I wouldnt have worried about pissing in the toliet. It helps, but they dont care either way.

Your best bet if you managed to get temp right and were able to pour it without being caught is to just hand it in and get the fudge out.

[reezykeezy]

alright ... lol damnit ... i fuckin psyched myself out . oh well ,i'm going in to retest in like a half hour.

[winston3338]

alright ... lol damnit ... i fuckin psyched myself out . oh well ,i'm going in to retest in like a half hour.Yea Bro, I didn't want to say anything but....Do better this time. I want You to think that the Man is depriving Us of Our right to smoke (Prohibition). I want You to pour that shit in there little pee cup and scream in Your mind....F- THE MAN!!!!

[reezykeezy]

LMAO!!!!

i love it winston! yeah i went today and drank hella gatorade and vitamin water beforehand and pissed beautifully. then proceeded to poor and it was all good

[winston3338]

Alright Man.....You did good!!!! Twist up a big fatty for Yourself :stoned:

I forgot to tell You as You scream f- the Man, Pee all over the floor and toilet.