MORALS.....

[kiwi]

:confused: I realise that this thread is going to piss alot of ppl off, but I'm sure they will post and have their say.....

I just read a thread bout the age of ppls dealers, and I must say I was a bit shocked. Some of these dealers are the same age as my son.
My hubby and I grow so we don't have a dealer, but we still have morals. I would never buy drugs from a kid, much less sell it to them. Call me old fashioned but it's just the way I am, as I am sure there are others here that feel the same. :rolleyes:

[Blisterize]

Kiwi, I was crazy as hell as a kid - but today....It aint fun no more. It's mean and rip off whoever ya can. All I have to say is it all starts in the home.

[Ammie]

:confused: I realise that this thread is going to piss alot of ppl off, but I'm sure they will post and have their say.....

I just read a thread bout the age of ppls dealers, and I must say I was a bit shocked. Some of these dealers are the same age as my son.
My hubby and I grow so we don't have a dealer, but we still have morals. I would never buy drugs from a kid, much less sell it to them. Call me old fashioned but it's just the way I am, as I am sure there are others here that feel the same. :rolleyes:


totally agree with u kiwi:)

[juggalo420]

i see buying from young kids as nothing that wrong, they will be selling whether or not one person buys from them or not. Any way just because someone 15 or 16 sells weed doesnt make them some dangerous thug or sumthing. What their doing is what their 25 year old or 30 year old counterpart does. When i occasionally sell weed when i have a little extra from a 1/2 ounce i buy i wouldnt sell to a middle schooler because their too young, but i find no moral difficulty selling to someone 15, most people start smoking around that age anyway.

[kiwi]

:rolleyes: At what part did I say it made them thugs? You missed the whole point to this.... :mad:

[BuD MaN]

whos cares, Im 15 and I just get plain pissed off when people older than me have a problem selling to me...its like juggalo says, Im just going to get it from somewhere else and its going to be lost money for the one with "morals". Its not like theres an age restriction for pot.

[Garden Knowm]

Centered people have NO morals.. selling to kids is wrong... don't get me wrong kids... it is your duty to try to buy weed and drink and all that crap.... but as adults we know that we did all that shit at your age too and that it really wasn't something you should do until you are older and your brain has developed blah blah blah.... if your 15 I think you should consider passing on the weed.. for now... do something that old people can't do.. anybody can role and smoke a blunt... when you get older you'll only wish that you would have spent more time running barefoot in the wind...heheheh I know..... I know.. Shut the F%$# up... love ya : ) enjoy

[kiwi]

:p Another one that missed the point...I'm not going to sit back and make money off selling drugs to school kids, I don't need money that badly.

Kids are in too much of a hurry to grow up and they miss out on the best years of their lives. Youth should be enjoyed not wasted. :(

[kuulbns]

I agree Kiwi. The body and brain have not finished developing in the teens. I'm not telling anyone what to do. I am simply stating that I would no more give a kid pot than I would cigarettes or alcohol. I don't know their medical history and they are not legally responsable. I have nothing to say about what you do personally, it's not my business. I do have a say in my own actions, and if ya look at it from my side of the hill (Granny) maybe you'll understand what I mean. I love kids. I only want to see them have a good life. What anyone chooses is what they will have to live with, and I have to live with myself! lol

[kiwi]

:D I would just like to add that at 15 I was too busy with school and a part time job, to go buying drugs...I wasn't lil Miss Prim & Proper, I had a awesome childhood, but it just wasn't built round scoring drugs and getting wasted.

[capitalism killz]

i don't think there's a problem with selling to kids over 15. if you didn't it'd be hard for all us highschoolers to get our stuff. it's a lot easier to get stuff off a peer then looking around for some 30-year-old you wouldn't trust nearly as much. yeah we all are probably growing up too fast, hell that's life for you! but school also wastes the best years of our lives. are we going to have discussions on that? doubtful. and at 15 you're 3 years from becoming an adult.

[juggalo420]

how is young people smoking wrong, i assume all of you smoke so how can you say when you smoke its a waste of youth, so are you guys wasting yourlife? It all smacks of hipocracy.

[Ammie]

how is young people smoking wrong, i assume all of you smoke so how can you say when you smoke its a waste of youth, so are you guys wasting yourlife? It all smacks of hipocracy.


lmfao u are totally missing their point try rereading it :rolleyes:

[kiwi]

:mad: Yet again you do not understand.... :p

[kiwi]

:confused: I'm not saying it is bad or makes you a bad person, all I am trying to say is that I won't encourage it round kids i know....Does that make me a bad person?????????????? :confused:

[Garden Knowm]

Adults shouldn't encourage or support kids to do things that they know is bad... that's what makes us adults....

No that's not Hypocritical.. Hypocritical is saying "I don't smoke" and then smoking!!!
Important difference...

[narkotic]

simply stating that "we do not understand" doesnt cut it.

put yourself into our shoes.. well, im almost an adult anyways but even at 15.. would you have been pissed if an adult is such a hipocrite that they blaze but wont do business with you because its 'wrong' ?

you need to rethink your morals. if its wrong at 15, its wrong at any age and you should be ashamed of yourself for using such a terrible drug.

any response is irrelevant, because if you dont agree with me.. you CLEARLY uhh.. 'do not understand'

[GHoSToKeR]

"Adults shouldn't encourage or support kids to do things that they know is bad"

Thats pretty much the point that kiwi and ammie are trying to make, right?

So, smoking weed is bad now? ammie? kiwi? Well, i'll tell you something for free.. I'm 17 (still a kid in your eyes) and I smoke weed, and im alot more responsible than a hell of alot of adults I know.. so, i disagree, its hypocritical and lame. if im wasting my youth by smoking weed, then quit wasting your adult life by smoking weed.. or is this another one of those double standards that most "adults" (and i use that term loosely) live by?

basically, i take offence at what youve said because im a "kid" and probably alot more responsible now then alot of people will be at 50... oh and ammie, im sorry, but you cant say that i shouldnt be smoking weed, when you can barely put a legible sentence together

(oh and one more thing, when someone disgrees with you, dont just say "uhh you dont understand".. get off your high horse and smoke one up, and ill do the same.. until you can officially tell me what to do)

[Ammie]

omg ghost we arent sayin its bad jees ya'll just dont get it :confused: i give up :)

[Ammie]

" oh and ammie, im sorry, but you cant say that i shouldnt be smoking weed, when you can barely put a legible sentence together

hey ghost how about u kiss my ass :mad:

[kiwi]

:mad: :mad: READ THE THREAD PROPERLY PLZ..................I never said that smoking cannabis is a bad thing, or that any of you are bad ppl....I said that I won't encourage it or deal to kids.

I have neices and nephews who are the same age as some of you, but I still won't toke around them.

[GHoSToKeR]

one more point

okay, so if there should be a minimum age for people to buy weed (if its morally wrong, and it were to become legal, then im sure youll want a minimum age for people to buy it), then how does one decide what age that should be? i mean, if someone that is 17 and 11 months old cant buy weed, then they become 18, how have they changed in any way that makes it okay for them to buy weed?

[GHoSToKeR]

hey ghost how about u kiss my ass :mad:
my pleasure

[Garden Knowm]

I don't think "you all don't get it" and "you don't understand" and "you miss the point" is working.... Try something else....

ghost... don't take offense man.. just a friendly discussion... Think about where Kiwi is coming from.. I think she said she had 3 kids.. Imagine trying to f&*% with a bear that had 3 cubs...

I agrree that the "you missed my point" comments are a tad bit vague(ehehhe) and can be seen as condescending... but she cares.. right?

: )

[Kronik Bagz]

ok, everyone posting on this thread seems to go in different directions so i am not completley sure what tha question is but i think i have a good idea.

i think u can look at buying from a kid from 2 different perspectives, and being that kid at one time in my life i know that sometimes selling dank is all u can do to get what u need. and if you think of it that way ur basicaly helpin a kid out. but i have also seen 14 and 15 year old kids who have money, food, an a roof over their heads an i dont see a point to that.


for me its not realy morals, its just the fact i dont trust these kids with my weed or my money

[GHoSToKeR]

I know, Garden Knowm, oh and nice to meet you, by the way! lol :)

The thing is, if she's saying that some kids shouldn't smoke weed, then she must mean that all kids shouldn't smoke weed, because that would be hypocritical, and apparantly, that's one thing she isn't. Now, i'm 17. I like to think of myself as a responsible 17 year old. I work, I dont break the law (apart from weed, obviously!), I don't go over-the-top with my smoking, and on the odd occasion that I go out drinking, I make sure that my car keys are safely hidden... For many other different reasons, I am considered a responsible 'adult'. Now, my life isn't exactly a barrel of laughs right now - too much drama for me too handle (i'm sure you know the feeling). So, when I get home from work, I like to do a number of things to relax and forget about the bullshit, so to speak. Number 1 - I play music. Number 2 - I hang out with friends. Number 3 - I smoke weed. If number 2 isn't possible at any given time, I tend to log-in at cannabis.com, and chat to loads of other people from here, that I share interests with; namely, smoking weed.

So, here we have a responsible (in my opinion, as well as my friends and families) 17 year old, that likes to smoke weed to "escape" on occasion, and chat to other stoners.. and here I have a fellow potsmoker saying that, because i'm 'only' 17, that it's wrong for me to smoke weed, or for people to sell it to me? No matter how you dress it up, that doesnt seem right, and to be honest, im pretty shocked to be hearing it on a Cannabis related website!

[zarathustra]

If you're not saying it's bad, then why shouldn't kids be able to do it? What qualifies that action as not being "moral?"

[kiwi]

:eek: I am sorry if I can across as being condascending, it was not intentional.

I only have 1 child, but regardless there are certain things that I will not bring into his home. Yes I grow and I smoke, but I do not let that be a part of my sons life. :confused:

I do not think any of the younger tokers in this site are bad, nor do I treat them any different, I am simply surprised at how many kids are in the drug scene....I am not standing in judgement of any of you, it was only my opinion.

[Hektik]

:D I would just like to add that at 15 I was too busy with school and a part time job, to go buying drugs...I wasn't lil Miss Prim & Proper, I had a awesome childhood, but it just wasn't built round scoring drugs and getting wasted.

Not everyone has an awesome childhood. Or a good neighborhood. I see nothing wrong with peoples age. Age don't mean shit. If someone 15 comes up to me with some dank i'll buy it like whut. Anyways everyone has there own opinions. :cool:

[Ammie]

Anyways everyone has there own opinions. :cool:


thats right, but here ur not allowed to have ur own opinion without gettin insulted or attacked. some of u people take things to fuckin literal. I would never sell weed to a 14 year old because if sumone sold to my 14 year old I would fuckin flip a lid. So excuse me for caring about these kids. At 17 ur pretty much an adult and should be able to do as u plz. However there are sum 17 year olds that act life fuckin retards when they are fucked up and shouldnt be aloud near any kind of drug, but then again there are also alot of adults I know that also cant. Its not really an age thing its more like a "can u handle it type of thing".

[GHoSToKeR]

hahahaaaaaa kids shouldnt be allowed to smoke, but its not an age thing LOL

thats like hitler saying "i hate Jews, but its not a religion thing"

fuck it ima go hit my pipe

[kiwi]

:eek: I seem to have pissed a few ppl off in here and that was not my intention...it is only my opinion, and at the end of the day we all come from different walks of life. I think when you become a parent things do change... ;)

[Garden Knowm]

Hey Kiwi... ya got people thinking...... and some people defending... hehehhe

Ghost.. big hugs to ya.. you're a sharp cookie !!!

Zarathustra- wow... great name "SUPERMAN"!!!!!!!!!!!!! and yes smoking is bad.. everyone knows that... so is jogging... it can really jack up your knees.... but if your smoking to kill the pain from your knee injury you got while you were jogging.... well then..... you know how the rest goes : ) blah blah blah...

CENETERED

[poorman3]

whats up with people who collect kids and children? theres alot of people who do this. i`ve been around people who just bragg about how fast their kids can type out 200 words a minute. i don`t understand why anyone would have these kids and children just laying around the house half cocked waiting to go off. it could kill some innocent adult and don`t tell me about these kids rights. they don`t have any, they are kids!


sorry to piss anybody off. i have`nt slept in two damn days! fucking kids!


































































this is a joke kids. LOL.

[kiwi]

:eek: :p :eek: :p ...that shud get them going :D

[GHoSToKeR]

Ghost.. big hugs to ya.. you're a sharp cookie !!!

hey, are you a dude or not? if so, you can keep your hugs, if not, then thanks lol :p :p

[Garden Knowm]

hahahahahahahah -

[kiwi]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Encatuse]

Listen Ghost:

The average 20 year old can afford to use weed with his own money.
The average 12-14 year old kid smokin weed is grabbin from mommy's purse stealin that money for it.
When a 20 year old gets busted with weed he can hire a lawyer. And afford to without mommy and daddy,
Can the average 12-15 year old? No.
The average 20 year old has completed high school. It's a fact, weed interferes with alotta people's schooling.
The average 12-15 year old hasn't.
And finally
MOST 20 year olds are a wee bit more mature then a 12-15 year old.

I think that's all they're saying ghost. Don't take it so personal. I promise Ammie wasn't even close to thinking of you when she said that, so that was pretty.. dickish of you to flip.

Anyway, I sell my shake off at the elementary school for like 20 bucks all the time.

hahaha Im fucking joking.

[kiwi]

:D stands to appauled EX...well said, thank you :D

[Ammie]

I promise Ammie wasn't even close to thinking of you when she said that, so that was pretty.. dickish of you to flip.




ur right i wasnt. I was thinkin about my 13 year old cousin that over dosed last year not on weed of course but still a drug is a drug and a 13 year old shouldnt be able to get ahold of them so easy.Anyways before today I thought very highly of Ghost he usally has a good point of veiw on things and seems to be a very smart/ responsible person. Im not goin to say sry for anything after all its my opinion and an opinion is never wrong. Just like everyone else has a right to theres and i cant say their wrong, but dont insult or attack sumone just because there opinion is different then yours.

[kiwi]

:mad: :mad: ===feels bad for causing problems between you both :mad:

[GHoSToKeR]

ur right i wasnt. I was thinkin about my 13 year old cousin that over dosed last year not on weed of course but still a drug is a drug and a 13 year old shouldnt be able to get ahold of them so easy.Anyways before today I thought very highly of Ghost he usally has a good point of veiw on things and seems to be a very smart/ responsible person. Im not goin to say sry for anything after all its my opinion and an opinion is never wrong. Just like everyone else has a right to theres and i cant say their wrong, but dont insult or attack sumone just because there opinion is different then yours.
Ammie, mate, you're full of shit. What was that you said earlier "when people disagree with others opinions [i think thats what u said] then they dont deserve to be allowed opinions of their own". youre full of shit, its that simple, get off your fucking high horse

and kiwi, dont sweat it, sorry for 'attacking' you, you never done nothing wrong, i guess, im just dont have time for certain people's bullshit

anyway, fuck it, im done wit this

[Ammie]

:mad: :mad: ===feels bad for causing problems between you both :mad:
hey kiwi dont sweat it obviously his problem goes back way before this thread because I didnt say anything different then u did but hey whatever dont care anymore.

[Garden Knowm]

Maybe we should all hug.. Ghost, we'll stick a lady between us : )

[kiwi]

:D :D Well lets just all agree to disagree then and be done with it aye!!!!!!!! :eek:

[GHoSToKeR]

hahaha! sounds like a plan! make that two ladies, just in case :p

[Garden Knowm]

2 ladies it is.. and you shouldn't sell bad stuff to kids... : )

[GHoSToKeR]

2 ladies it is.. and you shouldn't sell bad stuff to kids... : )
argh!! dammit!! dont get me started again!! i just put my soap-box away in the garage lol :D

[Garden Knowm]

ahhahahahahahhhahahahaha-

[kiwi]

:eek: ==Hides ghosts soap box... :D

[GHoSToKeR]

you can keep soap in it.. did you know? :)

[narkotic]

sorry for being mean kiwi
i still love you

id make one of those faces if i knew how..
lol im stoned :)

[adh endo]

who isnt?

[kiwi]

:D :D :D ROFLMFAO........... :D :D :eek:

[BuD MaN]

*sigh* lets just agree to disagree. We all have our own opions and weather or not you know what your talking about...really, we dont. No one can say this is right and this is wrong coz who is the all knowing person whois going to say you are right and you are wrong. You would have to know the entire picture of what youth and pot is about. I see pot as something I can find myself with, if that sounds a bit far out put it this way...Pot helped me through high skool (finished now) and without it I was on the path of dropping out before yr 9...When I smoke pot I like to just sit and think about inner things that usually hunt me about me...sorry people, Im a bit high...Yall know what its like (obviously).

[robert42]

kiwi is right thats all im gna say cos im busting for a turd.

[clevemire]

This thread is completely pointless. Just like this post I'm making hahaha.
I love doing my part. :D

But on topic, I personally don't care how old they are. Hell, all of my dealers (since I started smoking) except for one have been years younger than me. You'd be surprised. I've ran into some 15-16 year olds with some really bomb ass dank. All in all, if they are mature and responsible enough to handle it, I say go for it.

Kiwi, nothing wrong with being conservative and living in the 1950s. But beware expressing your opinions... BEEEEWWWAAAARRRRREEEEE!!

[psychocat]

18+ policy for me when I'm dealing or buying.
Selling to minors is something I will never do for moral and legal reasons, kids shouldn't smoke and the law deals harshly with people who deal to them.
Flame me all you want kiddies because your behaviour when challenged just shows your immaturity.

[juggalo420]

18+ policy for me when I'm dealing or buying.
Selling to minors is something I will never do for moral and legal reasons, kids shouldn't smoke and the law deals harshly with people who deal to them.
Flame me all you want kiddies because your behaviour when challenged just shows your immaturity.
you do realize the over-whelming majority of pot smokers started smoking before they were 18. i started 16. even though i am now an adult i dont feel markedly different than when i was 16 or 17. Your only argument that is valid is how the law is more harsh for dealing to kids.

[maryjanemama]

I only deal with adults because, come on, let's face it, for every smart, responsible 15 year old there are 27,000 immature, stupid ones. When I was 15, I thought I was the shit, but as an adult I realize I was a complete dumbass. I may be out of touch with teenagers today but I don't think much has changed in the 15 years since I was 15,so I would not trust the majority of 15 year olds who are drug dealers.
I don't see any of this as a moral dilemma, though, just more as common sense.

Being an adult pot smoker in today's society is risky enough without doing business with a ninth grader. It seems like one of the easiest ways in the world to find yourself behind bars that I can think of.

[clevemire]

I only deal with adults because, come on, let's face it, for every smart, responsible 15 year old there are 27,000 immature, stupid ones. When I was 15, I thought I was the shit, but as an adult I realize I was a complete dumbass. I may be out of touch with teenagers today but I don't think much has changed in the 15 years since I was 15,so I would not trust the majority of 15 year olds who are drug dealers.
I don't see any of this as a moral dilemma, though, just more as common sense.

Being an adult pot smoker in today's society is risky enough without doing business with a ninth grader. It seems like one of the easiest ways in the world to find yourself behind bars that I can think of. LOL
I don't know if I can agree with the whole adults are smarter deal. Maturity is obviously in question, but I don't know if intelligence is....
I used to look up to adults when I was a kid... Thinking that they were all knowing and what not. Now that I'm an adult, and interact with other adults on a daily basis, I now know that they are just as stupid as kids. People in general are fucking morons. No matter how old they are. I was actually just commenting this to a friend the other day... So I stand by my comment about respecting responsibility.
So yeah, for every 1, there are 27,000 idiots. Adults and kids alike.

[psychocat]

you do realize the over-whelming majority of pot smokers started smoking before they were 18. i started 16. even though i am now an adult i dont feel markedly different than when i was 16 or 17. Your only argument that is valid is how the law is more harsh for dealing to kids.

Do I give a fuck???
Personal choice and the knowledge that as teenagers we all think we are the dogs bollocks when in truth we are generally ignorant teenagers.

[Trace Evidence]

let me just point out that a little bit in 15 year olds, but mostly in the 16-17 years a kid goes through the most "gain" of maturity, dont belive the studies then go to a high school, and look at the difference between the freshman and the sophmore class, and then even moreso both of them and the juniors(for our out of states friends that grades 9 10 11 respectivly) my parents were and still are strict as hell, im almost 18 and if i have a girl in the house its only allowed if someone is home and te door is open and even sitting on the bed is off limits. and my dad was always telling me not to buy anything, didnt matter what it was he wanted me to save for a car or college, and when i was 12 to 15 i hated that, but beings they did what they did, them not being even reasonable sometimes payed off because it made me a better person. now they didnt do that intentionally, my dad still tells me that i should get my mind off of women because there a "waste of money" even though hes gone through probably 6 as he calls it "lady friends" and threw large amounts of money down on them, but he could spare the money so whatever. once u become a parent ur views change, because if u think about it while not having a kid u can kind of grasp a slight amount of it, basically think of your life, do u want your kid going thru what u did, or do u want them doing what things u did. I only know this because an uncle that is more like a friend to me, he has a son, who ive gotten to watch grow up from about 4 till now, and all the shit i did, i dont want some of it happening to him, like getting wasted outta my mind and waking up in my own puke who wants that when u see the innocence of a child, and now that hes getting around 12ish, hes starting to loose that inocense so witnessing what a parent witnesses makes me think about their oppionion.

[Trace Evidence]

on a seperate note, im not fond of younger kids like 15 and under,(not so much the 15 but some) getting into weed, just because they have limited job oppertunities for jobs or money, and that leads them to dishonest ways. Stealing from their parents, which thier parents did the work for that money, and the sure as hell didnt work for thier kids to go out and buy weed with it. i usted to think that my parents were agianst me, and on some things they are, but id have to say that 90 percent of parents, especially mothers, are looking out for thier childs best interest. and sometimes 15, and most under that age think there parents arent. thats just how i view it.

[kiwi]

:D Thank you all for the feedback, it made for a interesting read ;)

[az666]

lol, i agree...i havent actually posted on this thread yet but i've been reading it as it happens, like most of the threads really...in the end it is down to morals and seeing as peoples morals differ i guess there is no answer...well....thats my input :D

[cbambino]

Buying weed from a kid is ok, its a part time job for them. You buy cigarettes off kids too young to smoke them at the corner store. Its only SELLING weed to kids that is wrong. I buy weed from anyone i can it from a 13 year old to a grannie. Anyway any high school kid knows more more people than the most popular 30 year old. Plus most street deals where i live are either faciliated by kids (ie they bring people to the dealer) or the kids hold the drugs for the adult because they are minors. I would rather have a summer job holding weed than flipping burgers.
I have a core group of about 5 friends now, and zero of them smoke weed. If didnt know young people i wouldnt be able to get xtc at all. So i know lots of high school kids.I walk up to a group of them and ask for weed. If you are going to get ripped off its more likely by a 25 year old. They have been around longer. So i totally disagree with this :




" I only deal with adults because, come on, let's face it, for every smart, responsible 15 year old there are 27,000 immature, stupid ones. When I was 15, I thought I was the shit, but as an adult I realize I was a complete dumbass. I may be out of touch with teenagers today but I don't think much has changed in the 15 years since I was 15,so I would not trust the majority of 15 year olds who are drug dealers"

[Hektik]

Heh it's not like you ask people for they ID when you are buying/selling to them. I know 15 year olds who look older then i do. If anyone is pissed at this thread just get over it. We are having a discussion. Not the end of the world :p

[zarathustra]

what about midgets? sometimes i get them confused with kids.

in any case, look at it philosophically: to posess a certain moral or anti-moral is completely up to the individual.

I personally spend my weekends puching babies and arranging ritual sacrifices using homeless people.

if i can sleep at night, it's my deal.

[GHoSToKeR]

I'm 17, a minor!!!!!!!!!!!!, and i'm 18 in three months.

What change is going to happen to me on March 4th when I turn 18, and become an adult? Will my IQ suddenly rise 20 points? Will I suddenly become as mature as every other 'adult'?? No! I'm going to be old enough to go into pubs and clubs (not that I don't already, but at least i'll be doing it legally). That's the only thing that's going to change in the next few months. According to the law, i'm old enough to have sex, up until recently I was old enough to buy cigarettes (except the bastard bastards on this bastardy Island changed the bastarding laws, but I digress). In my opinion, there shouldnt be an age limit on anything - the government should stay the fuck out of our personal lives, and give us responsibility for our own actions. If you're not given any responsibility, then how are you going to get any as an adult? Fuck, that might just be the reason why so many adults act like kids, drink drive, fight, and do all of that other stupid imature shit that you adults do just as often as these 'kids' youre talking about. Basically, the difference between an adult and a teenager is this - we do the same stuff, you just do it legally. But if becoming an adult means i'm gonna have to look down on people under 18, and say "you shouldnt do that, youre just a kid, blah blah blah" then fuck it, I aint never gonna turn 18.

[kiwi]

:eek: :eek: In this thread I don't think I actually mention any ages... :rolleyes:

[Ammie]

:eek: :eek: In this thread I don't think I actually mention any ages... :rolleyes:


no one did kiwi lol :p

[ItokeALLday420]

kiwi,,,, i understand your point... i think.. but what if your just a kid yourself...then what? should you not enjoy marijuana use... i buy weed from one of my good friends who is a year older than me...hes 20... isthat wrong???

[GHoSToKeR]

you dont need to say an age

the term 'kid' is usually used when referring to a minor. A minor, as far as i'm aware, in the UK and the US, and probably most of the world, is someone under 18.

[ItokeALLday420]

fuck it...!!! who really cares... i have found since posting on this site that there are many diff. type of weed users... some more mature than others, some with diff beliefs then that of others and what not... but the fact is that we all enjoy the effects of marijuana so why be-little it by tellin someone they are wrong for buying weed from a minor..??

[kiwi]

:eek: It wasn't actually aimmed at ppl from about 16 up, it was more aimmed at those who are younger than that. Myself well I don't sell to anyone under about 20...its just the way I do things :confused:

[ItokeALLday420]

kiwi... thats cool.

[Garden Knowm]

What if they're 15, but want to buy a gram for $60....? You sell right? Childrens tax...right?












just kidding..... hehehe

[Hektik]

you dont need to say an age

the term 'kid' is usually used when referring to a minor. A minor, as far as i'm aware, in the UK and the US, and probably most of the world, is someone under 18.


:cool:

[GHoSToKeR]

:cool:
Those shades make you look fat :p

[Garden Knowm]

hektik -- what's up with the razor blade and flour?

[clevemire]

hektik -- what's up with the razor blade and flour?Flour. Hahahahaha!!

[maryjanemama]

No, you're IQ does not go up with age or I'd be a fucking genius by now. lol But there is something to be said for life experience in general, which everyone learns as they age. As for all that about who you're most likely to get ripped off by, a liar, scam artist comes in any age...unfortunately.

[Torog]

:confused: I realise that this thread is going to piss alot of ppl off, but I'm sure they will post and have their say.....

I just read a thread bout the age of ppls dealers, and I must say I was a bit shocked. Some of these dealers are the same age as my son.
My hubby and I grow so we don't have a dealer, but we still have morals. I would never buy drugs from a kid, much less sell it to them. Call me old fashioned but it's just the way I am, as I am sure there are others here that feel the same. :rolleyes:
Howdy kiwi,

I agree with ya,younguns crack too easily,when under pressure from cops and parents...few younguns,are mentally tough enough,to resist the pressure for very long,to reveal their sources. As a parent myself,I do feel that selling to minors is wrong,younguns should focus on gittin an education first..partying last. Younguns,think that they are invincible-and that nothing will happen-to them,they take risks and do things that attract the cop's attention.

I'm rooting for the younguns to finish their education..and saving the partying for last-after the homework,after the chores. Do it for yourselves..not just because you have your parents breathing down yore necks..the goal should be to git a good job-that will open the doors-for everything else.

Have a good one...Torog :D

[Cannabis.com]

Interesting thread ...

Kids growing up too quickly? That's far more perception than reality ... if anything, "kids", as a group, in most western countries, are growing up *slower* compared to say a century ago; many vestiges of the past remain as relevant now as back then ... following are examples one will find in the *United States*:

* Age of sex consent laws ... age 14 to 16 typically.

* Age of legal marriage ... age 7 to 13 typically.

* Age on can drive on public roads ... age 16 in most states; is even lower in some states.

* Operate farm equipment ... single digit age (talking like age 7!) is common, such as with the Amish. Very conflicting laws in regards to this ... an employer typically is not legally permitted to allow employees under age 18 to operate heavy machinery.

* Employment ... age 14 in many states; lower permissable in some states/situations.

* Drop out of school ... age 16 in many states.

* Military service ... age 17

* Can be considered an adult in regards to the legal system ... low teens quite common in most states; can be executed.

Teens, and even younger, in many parts of the world are expected to get married (most often arranged; such arrangements are seen here in the U.S. too, such as with the "Travelers"), have children, work, etc.

While one can debate whether "kids" should or should not do certain things, point I'm making is that "kids", as a group, are not growing up any faster; if anything, the opposite seems to be true.

In regards to psychotropics (getting "high", etc) ... it really depends ... teenagers tend to be more open to learning new things / new experiences, less responsibilities, and less to lose; most adults have much to lose, such as their career, kids, house, etc.

Speaking of maturity, many of the worst troublemakers / very immature people I've personally come across over the years have been way out of their teens - more towards middle age! Maturity isn't a clear-cut thing, even though society tends to make it out that way ... however, with that said, there is much most teens don't know / haven't yet experienced ... so when is the
"right" time for teens to do various activities, etc? There are no simple answers to that and it's doubtful there ever will be, but on the bright side, most teens, regardless of their upbringing, turn out to be well adjusted adults, who themselves will ask the same questions when they too have children ... amazes me how the 60s generation in the States, as a group, is among the most hawkish when it comes to watching / tracking their children ... what are they afraid of? Another Summer of '69, Woodstock, repeat of the 70s ... LOL!

Ron

[kiwi]

:confused: Very interesting....now I have something to really ponder over in my head for a few hours. :D

[poorman3]

kiwi, quit pondering! it will make you grey headed! don`t be so mature! LOL.

[kiwi]

:D :D :D

[GHoSToKeR]

Thats my point, Ron! Society tries to make a clear cut definition of what maturity is.. In alot of places (especially in the UK), youre considered mature once you hit 18. But how do you make the distinction between a 17 year old and an 18 year olds maturity? And take in to account that every teenager, just like every adult, is different, then theres no way to say when somebody is mature and when they arent.. I mean, shit, I was looking after my nephew once, and he wont out to hang out with his friends (hes 10 years old, so are his friends) and he didnt come back when he was supposed to, so I went out to look for him.. I found him with a bunch of kids, and he said "hey come and meet my friends".. I didnt really wanna meet a bunch of 10 year olds, lol, but I did it just to please him.. I went over for a couple of minutes, waited for him to say goodbye, but then his friends said they were gonna have a game of football (soccer) and could he play? I said okay, i'll stay and watch.. so they all went, and left one of their friends behind because she didnt want to play, as she was the only girl.. It was wierd that she was hanging out with 10 year olds, though, because she looked about 15 and acted about 18.. as I was waiting for my nephew to finish up his game, I was chatting to the girl that didnt want to play, not flirting, obviously, because even though I thought she was 15, 15 is still too young, lol, and then the game finished and i took my nephew home.. he asked me how i knew that girl that i was chatting to, and i said i didnt, but she seemed pretty cool so i was just makin conversation, and i asked how old she was, and she said she was 11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean, there i was, a 17 year old, chatting to an 11 year old as i waited for my nephew, and i was trying to figure out if she was 15 or 18!!!! LOL so umm.. im stoned, and if youve read this fair, then fair play to you, lol, but my point is, umm.. ive forgotten.. somethng about being mature! oh yea thats it, nobody can say when a person has hit maturity, because maturity can never come, or it can come straight away, or it can take a while arriving :p

[kiwi]

:D I get your point...===goes to hide under a rock :rolleyes:

[dog420]

my dealers age is 48 :)

[kiwi]

:confused: And if you don't mind me asking dog....how old are you? :D

[dog420]

24 mate :D

[powair]

I buy from a 15 year old. There's nothing wrong with buying or selling to kids...I am one!

[adh endo]

i shouted my sister a spot last night.

this time last night i didnt think she smoked pot.

and her friends had a session with me.

my sister smokes pot, shes 16 now, but wow, thats so weird...

wow. i never knew till last night.

[Hektik]

I do lines of flour like you don't even know :cool:

[kiwi]

:eek: :D :eek: :D :eek: :D :eek:

[caddyman]

Same here kiwi i would never buy from a kid , and for certain i would never give them any, i recently went to my dealers house and he sent his daughter of about 10 out to me with my deal , i refused to take it and i drove off empty handed , how low can adults get.

[Torog]

one more point

okay, so if there should be a minimum age for people to buy weed (if its morally wrong, and it were to become legal, then im sure youll want a minimum age for people to buy it), then how does one decide what age that should be? i mean, if someone that is 17 and 11 months old cant buy weed, then they become 18, how have they changed in any way that makes it okay for them to buy weed?
Howdy Ghost,

The change,is legal,at the age of 18,you've reached an age of majority,you are responsible for yourself,as an adult,at that point. Prior to that age,parents are responsible for your actions.

I agree with Kiwi,because I'm a father and I want younguns to focus on their education..I wish I had not allowed my grades to slip and focused more on a career that would support me.

Another thing that I would like to add,is that younguns crack pretty easily,under pressure from their parents and cops..whereas,adults,are not so easily intimidated.

[Looker]

AHHH SCREW THE MORALS.....

[GHoSToKeR]

Torog, why is 18 the 'magic number'? Nothing happens to a person once they reach 18.. I myself will be 18 in a couple of weeks, but nothing is going to change in me, physically or mentally.. Like bogart.bitch said, age is just a number

[Torog]

Torog, why is 18 the 'magic number'? Nothing happens to a person once they reach 18.. I myself will be 18 in a couple of weeks, but nothing is going to change in me, physically or mentally.. Like bogart.bitch said, age is just a number
Howdy Ghost,

Like I said earlier,it's the legal aspect,not so much the physical or mental aspect..parents are held liable for the actions of their children,till they reach what is known as the 'age of majority',at which point,you will be able to enter into legal contracts-but-you'll also be held liable for your actions..including being charged as an adult,if you commit any crimes.

Have a good one...:D

[psychocat]

Howdy Ghost,

Like I said earlier,it's the legal aspect,not so much the physical or mental aspect..parents are held liable for the actions of their children,till they reach what is known as the 'age of majority',at which point,you will be able to enter into legal contracts-but-you'll also be held liable for your actions..including being charged as an adult,if you commit any crimes.

Have a good one...:D

The cat agrees with Torog.
Don't happen often heh T ?? lol

[Looker]

Ahh shit no one quotes me.......

[basket case]

most of the people who buy from youths will be youths themselves

[GHoSToKeR]

Howdy Ghost,

Like I said earlier,it's the legal aspect,not so much the physical or mental aspect..parents are held liable for the actions of their children,till they reach what is known as the 'age of majority',at which point,you will be able to enter into legal contracts-but-you'll also be held liable for your actions..including being charged as an adult,if you commit any crimes.

Have a good one...:D
okay, I see your point..

Where I live, the 'legal age of accountability' (the age in which you are legally accountable for your own actions) is 10.. I guess I just didn't consider that it may be different in other places. :)

[kiwi]

:eek: OMG....10 is so young....Over here in New Zealand its 18, if you get in the shit before then its the parents that get in the shit for not having control. :eek:

[GHoSToKeR]

well, i guess if a 10 year old is breaking the law over here, then the parents will have to be involved.. probably the Social Services will get involved.. but if a 10 or 11 year old breaks the law, then they can get arrested, charged, and sent to a kiddy prison (equivelent of Juvenile Hall, i guess) if its serious enough

[Darkneon420]

Haha, all of yall missed Kiwi's point!!!! Either way yall know right from wrong. Smoking weed isent wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show no shame! I SMOKE WEED!!!!!!!!! Haha represtent it!

Kids can be very suprising when it comes to responsability. Let them make their own chioce if they screw up 3 times then punish them. ;) Kids are great, innocent, sneaky little things. You get em to like you and you got a good kid. I dunno why im giving parenting advice. I guess thats how i with my parents would have raised me or would raise me.

[GHoSToKeR]

darkneon, i love you lol

[poorman3]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GHOSTBLOWER, when it comes! i hope your mommy gets you all you want! you`ll be 18 huh? i sure would love to go to that rock or whatever you live on and (or) under and kick your ass out right! JUST MY OPINION! LOL!.

[Kid Dynamite]

/\/\/\ Cool stuff. Next thing youll be offering to spam his i.p :rolleyes:

[budbuzz420]

no offense to anyone but i dont think its age that matters. for instance, a 15 year old could have a job and be doing good in school and some of you think it would be bad for them to smoke, but if they were 30, had no job and just sat around all day it would be better??? i think that it depends on things other than age,but thats just my standpoint.once again no offense intended, peace :)

[surreyB.C.]

ok let the man have some say in this well now kiwi i definitly agree with you on this one i even think that somehow there should be an age limit on this site so kids under 21 or 19 cant get in here because i hate wasting my time reading stupid questions and posting to stupid comments and ghost your only 17 you dont even know what responsibility is stupid and leave the damn girls alone if u ask me your all just a bunch of punks who shouldnt even be on the site to begin with who bought your computer your mommy i bet and if she lets u on this site knowing the things u post and the way you talk i doubt u would have this computer. man ive been ripped off by too many punks to let it happen again kronik good for them but i would rather them go find that someone else to help them out cause it sure wouldnt be me and ammie get well soon

[surreyB.C.]

man this is about selling weed to kids and buying weed from kids you hear that kids children whatever you want to call em they r way too young to be involved in this or to even have a say in the matter. Poorman lolololol i agree just my opinion lol

[Darkneon420]

darkneon, i love you lol


Everyone should >_> :D

[SuburbanLife224]

AHHH SCREW THE MORALS.....


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[llamaman666]

The thing that I have the biggest problem with is older people ripping of young teens. I personlly don't have a problem with young teens smoking because I started when I was 12, and now, 17 years later, I am fine, making good money. I know some people can be stupid, but the biggest problem of "morals" is dealers ripping off young people who can't do anything about it. I grow, so I don't buy at all, and I sell a little to people I feel need a dealer, I won't sell to some guy who allready has all the connections he needs, but to younger dudes and dudesses and new people to the community

[slipnslide087]

QUOTE: surreyBC says: "ver you want to call em they r way too young to be involved in this or to even have a say in the matter."

-hahaha mannnnn shut the fuck up jesus christ are you that fucking dumb? yes,,, yes i thinkyou are. hahahahhaa whatthefuckdude.

ok i understand, legal issues, i wont be buying or selling to kids ever. that is just about morals....thats something that actually is contributing to the deliquency of minors. i agree.

surreyBC also says: "ok let the man have some say in this well now kiwi i definitly agree with you on this one i even think that somehow there should be an age limit on this site so kids under 21 or 19 cant get in here because i hate wasting my time reading stupid questions and posting to stupid comments and ghost your only 17 you dont even know what responsibility is stupid and leave the damn girls alone if u ask me your all just a bunch of punks who shouldnt even be on the site to begin with who bought your computer your mommy i bet and if she lets u on this site knowing the things u post and the way you talk i doubt u would have this computer. man ive been ripped off by too many punks to let it happen again kronik good for them but i would rather them go find that someone else to help them out cause it sure wouldnt be me and ammie get well soon"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHHHHHHH SHUTTHEFUCKUP!!!!!!! go bitch elsewhere. dont even know what responsibility is???? DUDE how the hell are you going ot tell someone shit like that. you dont know shit man. your a fuckin square man.

[slipnslide087]

*isnt just about morals

[llamaman666]

AHHH SCREW THE MORALS.....
Id go with this over kiwi's ideas, but then again.......
fuck it

[GHoSToKeR]

right on, slipnslide

who the hell is surreybc anyway

[slipnslide087]

dont even know man. strong opinon though huh?

[Darkneon420]

right on, slipnslide

who the hell is surreybc anyway


Surreybc grows wicked buds!!!!

[Torog]

ok let the man have some say in this well now kiwi i definitly agree with you on this one i even think that somehow there should be an age limit on this site so kids under 21 or 19 cant get in here because i hate wasting my time reading stupid questions and posting to stupid comments and ghost your only 17 you dont even know what responsibility is stupid and leave the damn girls alone if u ask me your all just a bunch of punks who shouldnt even be on the site to begin with who bought your computer your mommy i bet and if she lets u on this site knowing the things u post and the way you talk i doubt u would have this computer. man ive been ripped off by too many punks to let it happen again kronik good for them but i would rather them go find that someone else to help them out cause it sure wouldnt be me and ammie get well soon
Howdy surrey,

Yeeehhhaaawww !!! Git em !

Have a good one....:D

[slipnslide087]

QUOTE: darkneon says: "Surreybc grows wicked buds!!!!"

-cool.......wait nvm....i guess i dont care.

[KronicKing]

i wouldn't sell to anyone period,it's not worth the risk to me,if someone needs pot their more than welcome to come over smoke some and ill give them a little for the road,but to me them running by for all to 30 seconds and leaveing would make me a pretty lonely person,not to mention marijuana isn't the drug to be selling if you want to make money,and im sure as hell not selling and hard drugs because those get you 20+ year and i dont have 20 years to waste at any point,i'm 15 and dont really mind when people dont want to sell to me because i understand were their comeing from,and if i don't get any weed tough shit,ill go without,but you were there once so it seems like you would sell 'em a sack for ole times sake,as for it inhibiting the growth of the teenage mind and body...bullshit,i can say other than putting on a few extra pounds from eating so damn much while high pot has had no adverse effect on my growth(im almost 6'4 and built pretty solid) and if anything it has helped me broaden my mind and become a much more sensable person,but then i do most of my thinking while im not high,some people shoudn't smoke pot i agree but they do and theres not a thing i can do about it other than not sell/give anything to them,but i think all young people have a bad reputation because people tend to generalize instead of thinking about each person seperately,wich is also the reason many marijuana users are scrutinized,so have a open mind and dont group all kids into one group just because their kids,and as avid marijuana users you should ALL understand this,so dont do it

[Stedric]

ok let the man have some say in this well now kiwi i definitly agree with you on this one i even think that somehow there should be an age limit on this site so kids under 21 or 19 cant get in here because i hate wasting my time reading stupid questions and posting to stupid comments and ghost your only 17 you dont even know what responsibility is stupid and leave the damn girls alone if u ask me your all just a bunch of punks who shouldnt even be on the site to begin with who bought your computer your mommy i bet and if she lets u on this site knowing the things u post and the way you talk i doubt u would have this computer. man ive been ripped off by too many punks to let it happen again kronik good for them but i would rather them go find that someone else to help them out cause it sure wouldnt be me and ammie get well soon
I find that kind of offensive, man. I smoke weed more responsibly than plenty of people I know that are 3 times my age. If you guys have a problem with selling weed to kids, then please by all means DON'T. I respect you and your opinion, but please don't belittle my opinions as being nothing more than the immature spoutings of an angst-ridden teenager, I find that really disrespectful.

[Porkchop]

I find that kind of offensive, man. I smoke weed more responsibly than plenty of people I know that are 3 times my age. If you guys have a problem with selling weed to kids, then please by all means DON'T. I respect you and your opinion, but please don't belittle my opinions as being nothing more than the immature spoutings of an angst-ridden teenager, I find that really disrespectful.
Whats up with that guy talking shit? what a cock sucker to talk like that!

[KronicKing]

Interesting thread ...

Kids growing up too quickly? That's far more perception than reality ... if anything, "kids", as a group, in most western countries, are growing up *slower* compared to say a century ago; many vestiges of the past remain as relevant now as back then ... following are examples one will find in the *United States*:

* Age of sex consent laws ... age 14 to 16 typically.

* Age of legal marriage ... age 7 to 13 typically.

* Age on can drive on public roads ... age 16 in most states; is even lower in some states.

* Operate farm equipment ... single digit age (talking like age 7!) is common, such as with the Amish. Very conflicting laws in regards to this ... an employer typically is not legally permitted to allow employees under age 18 to operate heavy machinery.

* Employment ... age 14 in many states; lower permissable in some states/situations.

* Drop out of school ... age 16 in many states.

* Military service ... age 17

* Can be considered an adult in regards to the legal system ... low teens quite common in most states; can be executed.

Teens, and even younger, in many parts of the world are expected to get married (most often arranged; such arrangements are seen here in the U.S. too, such as with the "Travelers"), have children, work, etc.

While one can debate whether "kids" should or should not do certain things, point I'm making is that "kids", as a group, are not growing up any faster; if anything, the opposite seems to be true.

In regards to psychotropics (getting "high", etc) ... it really depends ... teenagers tend to be more open to learning new things / new experiences, less responsibilities, and less to lose; most adults have much to lose, such as their career, kids, house, etc.

Speaking of maturity, many of the worst troublemakers / very immature people I've personally come across over the years have been way out of their teens - more towards middle age! Maturity isn't a clear-cut thing, even though society tends to make it out that way ... however, with that said, there is much most teens don't know / haven't yet experienced ... so when is the
"right" time for teens to do various activities, etc? There are no simple answers to that and it's doubtful there ever will be, but on the bright side, most teens, regardless of their upbringing, turn out to be well adjusted adults, who themselves will ask the same questions when they too have children ... amazes me how the 60s generation in the States, as a group, is among the most hawkish when it comes to watching / tracking their children ... what are they afraid of? Another Summer of '69, Woodstock, repeat of the 70s ... LOL!

Ron

well put ron,i agree

[KronicKing]

Whats up with that guy talking shit? what a cock sucker to talk like that!

he wasn't he was saying the same thing i was at the bottom of my post,because we are young people think automaticly we are dumb imature and just like every other teen retard out there,i dont think i know everything,infact im far far from it,but because i am young people tend to treat me with disrespect and assume i am immature,as avid pot smokers we all know what it is like to be singled out and have assumtions and insults throw at us just because we like to get high,it is the same as many people includeing most here veiw younger people,it seems as pot heads we would have much more open minds and look at people as indeviduals instead of a group of idiots,and use the reasoning the we are idiots just because we are part of a group you may not agree with or are misinformed about i know you were a kid once to but:
The butterfly never seems to remember what it is like to be the catipillar

[bubblebrain8]

i would say dont sell weed to anyone under 15 years old

[HypnotizedMind]

we were all kids or maybe some of us still are, and most of us had the urge to get high at a young age...for me i started smoking at age 12.

and now i consider my self responsible.

ive never came in contact with the police, ive never been arrested, never been on probation. ive never let weed come in between me and my responsibilites.

and i am 17.

[Blunt burner turner]

i'm sixteen and i have been smoking sinse i was 12, at least once a week for three years. my brain has been developing throug all of that time. i go to the second best state school in the country (i'm not boasting but it prooves a point) not only do i not think that weed has inhibited my brains development i believe it has played an important role in devbeloping my personality, i am now an easy going generous person, i don't like fighting and i like talking not shouting, i don't mug old women. also last point i'm sure you trust your weed to be weed and just weed, if you refuse to sell a minor good clean weed you are increasing the chances of him going to someone who will put crak in their "weed" and yes i have smoked what i thought was weed and was clearly not just that in that exact circummstance. i do see your points i think you just need a different perspective to make a decition on ethical isues. xx

[MegaOctane12]

I haven't read this thread properly, but selling drugs to anyone perpetuates and increases the likelihood of a minor getting their hands on it. That's just how it is, because drugs circulate, the person you sell to will circulate e.t.c e.t.c. How anyone can have such a high moral standard when it comes to this, is completely astonishing in my opinion, and hipocritical. You sell drugs, your selling them to your whole community.