getting banned

[420marijuana420]

How do you keep some one who gets banned from just making a new account and posting again?

[geonagual]

How do you keep some one who gets banned from just making a new account and posting again?


I would imagine that the IP gets blocked and a person cant make a new account from that IP.

Sounds like you got a plan. LOL

[delusionsofNORMALity]

How do you keep some one who gets banned from just making a new account and posting again?
the mods all get together and print out you last 17 posts, then they gather around the cancom altar and burn the pages one by one while chanting ancient rastafarian incantations. when the sun rises your computer will never be able to connect to this forum again.

[420marijuana420]

you could use a proxy are have your IP adress reset.

[420marijuana420]

the mods all get together and print out you last 17 posts, then they gather around the cancom altar and burn the pages one by one while chanting ancient rastafarian incantations. when the sun rises your computer will never be able to connect to this forum again.

and unless this really works I don't see how people can be prevented from getting back in

[birdgirl73]

When people get banned, they go onto a list in our mod panel. In that same panel is our member-approval system. When new members (or returning banned posers) sign up to be admitted as members, the mods have to go in and approve or disapprove those new members. We click on the applicants' IP addresses and can immediately see if they have any alternate identities. Then we check those other identities to see if any of them are banned. If they are, we deny the membership. We have other ways, too, but that's our main way.

Some members in good standing have more than one identity, so we have a few duplicate identities anyway, which usually doesn't cause problems. It is possible for banned members to sign up for a new member account through a different IP address on a different PC or IP account so the IPs don't match when we cross-check them during approval, making the returnee seem like an all-new member instead of a returning poser. So occasionally returnees come back and slip under the wire that way. They nearly always manage to give themselves away, however, and get banned again anyway. Most of our chronic "bannees" have very distinct personalities, anger problems, and writing styles, which are fairly easy to quickly detect.

On a few occasions, banned members return with a new identity and new behavior, and we let them proceed, especially if they've been long-time members and they really do seem to have turned over a new leaf. As long as they're being civil, I don't personally have a problem with that. I can think of three of those folks off the top of my head who're active members now and are behaving themselves after a fairly colorful banishment history. I'm sure there are probably others if I think a bit longer.

Sorry for the long answer!

[Kenn]

bird girl u explain things so well you could be a teacher...:)

[birdgirl73]

Thanks, Ken. I actually was a teacher. An English and journalism teacher. And then I wrote for a living for a long time. So I've learned how to explain things!

[freewheelinfrank]

BirdGirl is mine and Reaper's favorite mod - we appreciate education and maturity :thumbsup: reaper says HI !, birdie :jointsmile:

[birdgirl73]

Thanks, Frank. Which Reaper? Our long lost Image Reaper? I still miss him. But I know there are others.

[freewheelinfrank]

yup, 'that' Reaper, Image Reaper - lol - we stay in touch a lot, as we (and another fella) are working on a hybrid of Reaper's - won't know how it smokes out, for another coupla months, but she sure looks 'interesting' :weedpoke:

[NteeM]

vBulletin uses mostly IP and Email.

[birdgirl73]

Oh, Frank, give Image Reaper my love and my best wishes. I can't think of anyone I enjoyed seeing online better--or anyone I miss more and still grieve for! I think the world of him. It makes my heart happy to know he's still in touch with you and has a fun hybrid "project" going. I hope his health is good and his pain under control. I know he'll be pleased to know the skull logo has been replaced with a better one. Y'all take care!

[freewheelinfrank]

Oh, Frank, give Image Reaper my love and my best wishes. I can't think of anyone I enjoyed seeing online better--or anyone I miss more and still grieve for! I think the world of him. It makes my heart happy to know he's still in touch with you and has a fun hybrid "project" going. I hope his health is good and his pain under control. I know he'll be pleased to know the skull logo has been replaced with a better one. Y'all take care!

he's doing better, health-wise - he is recovering from a recent knee replacement, so he's a little easier to get along with, now, LOL :D - I post messages for him, he can Log-In, but can't post messages - ? - he sends his best to you :)

[Treetops]

When people get banned, they go onto a list in our mod panel. In that same panel is our member-approval system. When new members (or returning banned posers) sign up to be admitted as members, the mods have to go in and approve or disapprove those new members. We click on the applicants' IP addresses and can immediately see if they have any alternate identities. Then we check those other identities to see if any of them are banned. If they are, we deny the membership. We have other ways, too, but that's our main way.

Some members in good standing have more than one identity, so we have a few duplicate identities anyway, which usually doesn't cause problems. It is possible for banned members to sign up for a new member account through a different IP address on a different PC or IP account so the IPs don't match when we cross-check them during approval, making the returnee seem like an all-new member instead of a returning poser. So occasionally returnees come back and slip under the wire that way. They nearly always manage to give themselves away, however, and get banned again anyway. Most of our chronic "bannees" have very distinct personalities, anger problems, and writing styles, which are fairly easy to quickly detect.

On a few occasions, banned members return with a new identity and new behavior, and we let them proceed, especially if they've been long-time members and they really do seem to have turned over a new leaf. As long as they're being civil, I don't personally have a problem with that. I can think of three of those folks off the top of my head who're active members now and are behaving themselves after a fairly colorful banishment history. I'm sure there are probably others if I think a bit longer.

Sorry for the long answer!

:thumbsup: I think its been way too long....let him return...

Peace,
Treetops

[freewheelinfrank]

I don't think he was banned, in fact, I'm almost positive he left on good terms - he said when he left, that he deleted all his personal profile info, for security's sake, maybe that's what screwed his account up ?? - he can Log in OK, but nothing beyond that - can't post, can't access extra features, etc. - I don't think he cares one way or the other, but it would save me from a lot of typing, LOL :D

[birdgirl73]

Hmm, well, let's see if Sundance can come along and perhaps hazard a guess about what the problem might be if the theory I espouse below isn't correct. The Image Reaper's deletion/change of his account info probably is contributing to the problem.

In the mod panel, his status says "user awaiting email confirmation," which usually means that he was sent the standard automatic email by our system when he changed his account info and/or changed his email address. That "users awaiting email confirmation" description shows up when a member hasn't yet acknowledged the email sent by our system, which requests that he click on a link to confirm his new account information/email address as accurate. He definitely left in good standing and isn't banned.

I vaguely remember that The Image Reaper had a different email address than the one he has listed now. Listed on his account currently is an email address with the word "vanished" in it. My guess is when he cleaned out his profile info, left behind that new email adress, and departed, he probably never went back to that email address to click on the link in the message our system sent out to confirm those changes.

If that's not the problem, then it may be a matter of Sundance checking into this situation and perhaps resetting The Image Reaper's membership, which is easy enough to do. Frank, see if he can check into that email account and see if he still has a message from our system. He can also write to me at birdgirl73 at pot.com if he has any questions.

[Treetops]

I don't think he was banned, in fact, I'm almost positive he left on good terms - he said when he left, that he deleted all his personal profile info, for security's sake, maybe that's what screwed his account up ?? - he can Log in OK, but nothing beyond that - can't post, can't access extra features, etc. - I don't think he cares one way or the other, but it would save me from a lot of typing, LOL :D



Yes, you are correct...its the CRS on my part....I now remember that he did leave on several counts of his own...I stand corrected..went looking for the last post of his...but all in all it would be nice to have him back..His posts and his growing experience of 40 plus years is missed by many..

I say again, no matter what the offense, or reason let him return...

Peace,
Treetops

[freewheelinfrank]

Reaper said to thank you for the kind words - he says he has never had any e-mail address with the word 'vanished' in it, or anything like it ... he is as puzzled as anyone - he's a computer techie, among other things, so it probably isn't anything easily found - ?? - unless he decided to say goodbye that way ??, dunno, I didn't think to ask him about that :D

[Kind Buds]

people can get around being banned by using cgi proxy to log on/off with a new account and email adress

[Psycho4Bud]

Reaper said to thank you for the kind words - he says he has never had any e-mail address with the word 'vanished' in it, or anything like it ... he is as puzzled as anyone - he's a computer techie, among other things, so it probably isn't anything easily found - ?? - unless he decided to say goodbye that way ??, dunno, I didn't think to ask him about that :D

I've had to work out probs like this before.......have the Reaper send me an e-mail and we'll do our best to get the situation resolved!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Runaway Jim]

I would imagine that the IP gets blocked and a person cant make a new account from that IP.

Sounds like you got a plan. LOL

Orly? Hmmm... :rolleyes:

[cannabis campbell]

Well... Eventually they would be able to join the forums again

wouldn't they?

[birdgirl73]

I thought you might be likely to pop up on this thread, Runway Jim!

[birdgirl73]

Depends on the severity of the offenses, Cannabis C. We're pretty forgiving. But there are people who never learn.

[cannabis campbell]

Jim what was your previous account name im really curious and want to know lol

at least tell me is it one of these: da haze meister, tokosan, crayzy pot head, Az., 3 sheets ??

Because if not then i most likely dont remember you lol

come on just give me a clue!

[cannabis campbell]

Depends on the severity of the offenses, Cannabis C. We're pretty forgiving. But there are people who never learn.

Can you check for me because im not sure, i cant remember if ive ever been banned before i dont think i have?? or if i have any warning of any sort?

[birdgirl73]

CC, there's no record of your having been banned or even ever having received an infraction. Our infraction system and its infraction record only date back to last summer, however. If you were ever banned back in the days before we had the infraction system, it wouldn't be reflected anyplace. So it looks like you have a fairly clean record in the modern history of this site. Be on the lookout for a PM from me in just a sec.

[cannabis campbell]

Yay great, im clean :D

ps :eek: ok!

edit - thanks birdgirl :)

[Psycho4Bud]

I don't think he was banned, in fact, I'm almost positive he left on good terms - he said when he left, that he deleted all his personal profile info, for security's sake, maybe that's what screwed his account up ?? - he can Log in OK, but nothing beyond that - can't post, can't access extra features, etc. - I don't think he cares one way or the other, but it would save me from a lot of typing, LOL :D

His account should be fixed now.......I've sent him an e-mail regarding it.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[jdmarcus59]

Thanks, Ken. I actually was a teacher. An English and journalism teacher. And then I wrote for a living for a long time. So I've learned how to explain things!

Ive read your stuff here on this web,I belive you do not smoke? just wondering how you got interested. in this site?:)

[Runaway Jim]

Who said I was here on a previous account? :thumbsup:

[the image reaper]

OK, my old account seems restored ... thank you for the fix, Psycho ... wishing you all 'Good Growing' ! and, thanks to FreewheelinFrank for being my proxy for awhile ... :smokin:

[Dutch Pimp]

..this calls for a celebration...let the good times Roll.....:bigsmoke::jumphappy:

[Psycho4Bud]

OK, my old account seems restored ... thank you for the fix, Psycho ... wishing you all 'Good Growing' ! and, thanks to FreewheelinFrank for being my proxy for awhile ... :smokin:

Glad to see it worked for ya dude.....

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[birdgirl73]

OK, my old account seems restored ... thank you for the fix, Psycho ... wishing you all 'Good Growing' ! and, thanks to FreewheelinFrank for being my proxy for awhile ... :smokin:
You're back! You're back!!! I'm SO glad to see you! Missed you like crazy. Take care of yourself, and I'll look foward to catching up with you when we're both online sometime!

[birdgirl73]

Ive read your stuff here on this web,I belive you do not smoke? just wondering how you got interested. in this site?:)
I got interested a bit more than a year ago when I was looking for information about cannabis to help my sister, who was suffering through her last chemo sessions for ovarian cancer. I found a local source of "help" and got lots of helpful information and advice from people here about how to administer it and what strains to look for. And so I kept posting. At the time when my sister was smoking to alleviate the chemo symptoms, I toked with her. I'd quit my corporate job but hadn't yet started medical school. Then I quit when school started. Bess no longer felt like smoking anyway, and I signed an ethics agreement upon entering school saying I wouldn't do anything illegal. I used to be a devoted toker back when I was in college, but that was eons ago.

Anyway, I liked the site a lot. Liked a lot of the people. I feel it's important for smart, pro-cannabis people to hang out here, too, even if we're not active smokers. We help advance the cause, too, in some ways perhaps even more effectively than folks who're heavily invested in using it, because we have a certain degree of objectivity, I think. It was incredible how helpful cannabis was for my sister. Because of that and what I've learned here, I'll be a lifelong cannabis advocate, and after I've retired from medicine--or before that, if the great day comes when it's made legal--I'll be a devoted smoker or vape user at the first opportunity. Sorry for the long answer!

[mfqr]

the mods all get together and print out you last 17 posts, then they gather around the cancom altar and burn the pages one by one while chanting ancient rastafarian incantations. when the sun rises your computer will never be able to connect to this forum again.

If that's exactly how it's done, then it would be easy to bypass. All you would need to do is use a different computer, so that means that they could still get on their account if they used a different computer--because you never said that you will never be able to connect to the forum and/or account.

[geonagual]

Who said I was here on a previous account? :thumbsup:

I havent said anything...you just give yourself away..I have a good clue..and it was none of the ones CC listed..want me to take a guess?

The thumbsup didnt hide the insecurity of your sentence quoted above...LOL

[Runaway Jim]

I havent said anything...you just give yourself away..I have a good clue..and it was none of the ones CC listed..want me to take a guess?

The thumbsup didnt hide the insecurity of your sentence quoted above...LOL

Nah you dont need to take a guess.

[Skink]

Nah you dont need to take a guess.

A Zebra never changes his stripes...

[the image reaper]

I got interested a bit more than a year ago when I was looking for information about cannabis to help my sister, who was suffering through her last chemo sessions for ovarian cancer. I found a local source of "help" and got lots of helpful information and advice from people here about how to administer it and what strains to look for. And so I kept posting. At the time when my sister was smoking to alleviate the chemo symptoms, I toked with her. I'd quit my corporate job but hadn't yet started medical school. Then I quit when school started. Bess no longer felt like smoking anyway, and I signed an ethics agreement upon entering school saying I wouldn't do anything illegal. I used to be a devoted toker back when I was in college, but that was eons ago.

Anyway, I liked the site a lot. Liked a lot of the people. I feel it's important for smart, pro-cannabis people to hang out here, too, even if we're not active smokers. We help advance the cause, too, in some ways perhaps even more effectively than folks who're heavily invested in using it, because we have a certain degree of objectivity, I think. It was incredible how helpful cannabis was for my sister. Because of that and what I've learned here, I'll be a lifelong cannabis advocate, and after I've retired from medicine--or before that, if the great day comes when it's made legal--I'll be a devoted smoker or vape user at the first opportunity. Sorry for the long answer!

KUDOS ! ... your obvious intelligence always impressed me, whenever I read your posts, but, after reading this, I have to say, you also have my sincere respect :thumbsup:... we NEED clear-headed, successful people like you to help the cause for medical marijuana ... you are a blessing :smokin:

[Runaway Jim]

A Zebra never changes his stripes...

Yeah, well, I'm not really a zebra now am I?