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420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 04:28 AM
1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group??s overall goal as ??total animal liberation.? This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.

2) Despite its constant moralizing about the ??unethical? treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified ??domestic terrorist? -group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that ??blowing stuff up and smashing windows? is ??a great way to bring about animal liberation.?

4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: ??Your Mommy Kills Animals!? PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel??s audience: ??Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.?

5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs ??died for their sins.? PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous ??Holocaust on Your Plate? campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.

7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that ??even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.?

<I hope all of you pet owners payed special attention to number one.>


edit: "I'm an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products -- and I have no qualms about it ... I'm not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin. I don't see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals." '

-PETA Senior Vice President MaryBeth Sweetland

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:31 AM
I am a proud PETA member and your facts are crap :thumbsup:

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 04:32 AM
They ARE??? What makes you so sure?

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:32 AM
Next time use ALL the info instead of bits and peices of it

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:33 AM
Just go on peta2.com or peta.com itself and ask around. PETA gets such a shitty name from so many people. But ask the people who are doing the protesting and such.

katyowns
06-07-2007, 04:37 AM
PETA is a terrorist organization, sorry to say.

greenvoodoo
06-07-2007, 04:37 AM
no pets

really?

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 04:37 AM
so are you telling me that MaryBeth Sweetland did not say that? Are you telling me that PETA supports people keeping pets? Are you telling me that PETA supports testing medicine on animals? Are you telling me that those PETA members never protested outside of that church?

M3nt0R
06-07-2007, 04:41 AM
Well he just asked you, lol.

In Peta video clips, they show extremely severe cases to make it look like all meat-related people are horrible and inhumane.

Fact is, we're animals and we have to eat. To me it doesnt' make a difference of they shoot a pig in the head, or if they bash its skull open with a wooden spoon. Maybe I'm just cold-hearted? I don't care how the animal dies...sure if it was me, blah blah...no one knows what they think exactly. I'm hungry and if that's waht it takes, then so be it.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:44 AM
PETA allows pets, wtf. They call them companion animals. And those quotes are bogus! The people who wrote that took bits and peices and construde together their bullshit article. Maybe do some research there.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:45 AM
^ oh and pigs have the intelligence of a third grader, thats nice lets kill them violently.

Polymirize
06-07-2007, 04:46 AM
I agree your facts are kinda crappy.

I'm not a PETA member, I can't think of a good reason why humans shouldn't use wool, or have pets provided the animals are well taken care for.

But do I think we need animals to test cosmetics on? Or skin for fashion?

No.

Do I think the modern practices of factory farming are disgusting and lead to both unnecessary cruelty and inferior product to the consumer?

Yes.

I'm glad PETA is around to push the envelope on these ethical issues though...

footpaul
06-07-2007, 04:46 AM
If it is natural for other animals to eat each other (I.E. lion killing gazelle), what is so inhumane about killing other animals to eat (I.E. Cows for beef). I don't think animals should be tortured, but PETA goes way too far, just like every political organization and party in the U.S.

P.S. I am a proud hunter.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:50 AM
See peta has realized that people are going to eat meat. They pick their battles. But they at least want you to be informed. If you could choose how your meat dies wouldnt you want it to be as least painful as possible? The people who say the really extreme things peta kinda pushes to the sides. I know that on the boards when those people show up we ignore them there. Just like every organization ever, there is always a few a-holes who have to ruin it for everyone. Sure in a perfect world no one would eat meat, the testing would stop and the use of animals for their skins would end. But we know we cant stop all of that overnight. I assure you that they are much rational than you know.

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 04:51 AM
Yeah most of that is bullshit or half-truth. I live in Norfolk and I know a lot of people that work there. I'm not involved with peta, it's not my thing, but I do know the way they do things. Peta donates food to my organization Food Not Bombs and verteranary offices and homeless shelters around here, and when they "kill animals" it's only because they are sick with no fighting chance. They don't just randomly kill animals and throw them in dumpsters(except for that one time, yeah I saw that). And most of the employees there DO have pets and bring them to work with them.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 04:51 AM
well here's PETA publicly speaking out about march of dimes:
We Oppose March of Dimes Animal Tests (http://www.peta.org/feat/modparents/)

looks who's on trial for animal cruelty:
Press Release | PETA Employees Face 31 Felony Animal-Cruelty Charges for Killing, Dumping Dogs (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/release/109)

"If it were a retarded baby and a bright dog, I'd save the dog."
-Tom Regan, Q&A session following a speech, University of Wisconsin-Madison, October 27, 1989.

from peta.com FAQ:

How can you justify the millions of dollars of property damage caused by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF)?

"Throughout history, some people have felt the need to break the law to fight injustice"

greenvoodoo
06-07-2007, 04:53 AM
ya those videos that show how they treat the chickens and pigs and cows etc. make me want to stop eating meat :(

I probably will some day

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:54 AM
THE ALF IS NOT INVOLVED WITH PETA! WTF ont he site we do NOT condone violence! We want peaceful protests! I have done countless protest for peta! And the march of dimes thing is true to a degree. Alot of testing is done that ends up producing nothing! We know more about the anatomy of monkeys than we do about humans! And again, EVERY ORGANIZATION HAS A FEW ASSHOLES! Those are the people who did that felony bullshit.

footpaul
06-07-2007, 04:55 AM
Yo 420 you should bust out the hard evidence: The South Park episode with P Diddy.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:56 AM
Like theres other alternatives to animal testing that would produce much more humane and more fufilling results, PETA Media Center > Factsheets > Alternatives: Testing Without Torture (http://peta.com/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=87)

Psycho4Bud
06-07-2007, 04:56 AM
CAUTION! Disturbing flick on PETA.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itswGWddk2A

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 04:58 AM
They killed them b.c they were sick and suffering! AND AGAIN, FOR THE FIFTH FREAKING TIME. JUST B/C A FEW PEOPLE ARE EXTREME YOU CANNOT CONDEMN A WHOLE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DONE SO FREAKING MUCH FOR ANIMALS!

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 04:59 AM
if you want more organized facts on these claims against PETA you can skim through this video that Penn & Tellers made.

YouTube - Bullshit-Peta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY)

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:00 AM
The world will forever hold a grudge against PETA because of Alek Baldwin...

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:02 AM
They killed them b.c they were sick and suffering! AND AGAIN, FOR THE FIFTH FREAKING TIME. JUST B/C A FEW PEOPLE ARE EXTREME YOU CANNOT CONDEMN A WHOLE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DONE SO FREAKING MUCH FOR ANIMALS!

Ok, I'm sure you love animals and I'm sure you don't slaughter them on your back patio but these facts come from the people who run the organization. It's not like these come from some PETA member in a studio apartment barely involved in the organization.

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:02 AM
They killed them b.c they were sick and suffering! AND AGAIN, FOR THE FIFTH FREAKING TIME. JUST B/C A FEW PEOPLE ARE EXTREME YOU CANNOT CONDEMN A WHOLE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DONE SO FREAKING MUCH FOR ANIMALS!

True that. PETA is like one of the biggest organizations in the world, so there's bound to be a few more extremists than other groups. The crazy people that make the headlines do not represent what PETA actually stands for. trust me.

footpaul
06-07-2007, 05:03 AM
Like I said, I want to see some legit evidence.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:05 AM
Screw pen and teller, and screw alek bladwin! Thats not the point. The point is that these are a few a-holes that make PETA look bad. Most of the people who support peta, like myself just want better humane treatments for animals. We want to help animals any way we can. We want to stop abuse. Whats wrong with that at all? Most of the people on that site are not these extreme, "NO ONE EATS MEAT AND IF YOU WEAR FUR WE THROW BLOOD ON YOU!". That happens but that isn't peta. And if they say its peta there full of crap, we disown those people. Instead we leaflet, have peaceful protests and lay downs, stuff the aclu and other civil rights people have been doing for years. You cant bash the whole civil rights organizations b/c of a few rouge people.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:05 AM
Yo 420 you should bust out the hard evidence: The South Park episode with P Diddy.

ya I know i'm trying to dig it up right now. It might just put this whole thing to a stop. lol

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:06 AM
^ Oh yeah making fun of the issue, thats lovely.

footpaul
06-07-2007, 05:07 AM
yo why r we hatin on peta? we should be goin after the ACLU hypocrites.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:07 AM
once again: YouTube - Bullshit-Peta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY)

This is the best evidence I can give you because it shows you video evidence that can't be claimed to be made up.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:08 AM
MADE BY A BUNCH OF PUNK KIDS ON YOU TUBE!

Psycho4Bud
06-07-2007, 05:08 AM
True that. PETA is like one of the biggest organizations in the world, so there's bound to be a few more extremists than other groups. The crazy people that make the headlines do not represent what PETA actually stands for. trust me.

When an organization has these extremists that go around making comments like what was in the film or others that throw blood at people wearing furs or leather, isn't it that organizations responsibility to denounce these actions and kick the members out of the fold? WHEN they start doing that they might gain a bit more respect from the masses. :thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

footpaul
06-07-2007, 05:09 AM
^ Oh yeah making fun of the issue, thats lovely.

Oh cmon that show is hilarious.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:11 AM
1. P4B, you cant kick people out of a FREE organization! And when they say that crazy shit on the boards and such we disown them. We cut them off like the cancerous limbs they are!

2. footpaul, oh I love south park, just watched it tonight. Just saying though, this is something I am verrrrry serious about. In another situation id laugh but now im pissed, not at the show at all but by all this other stuff.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:11 AM
MADE BY A BUNCH OF PUNK KIDS ON YOU TUBE!

its was not made by them, just most likely distributed by them. If that's true Rebgirl, then those "few a holes" are also the few people who run peta. Like I said, these people might not represent the groups action, they probably don't represent yours, but they do represent the organization of PETA

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:12 AM
ya I know i'm trying to dig it up right now. It might just put this whole thing to a stop. lol

Episode (http://www.allsp.com/l.php?id=e119)

there you go. but still, get ya facts straight.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:13 AM
Episode (http://www.allsp.com/l.php?id=e119)

there you go. but still, get ya facts straight.

my facts ARE straight. And thank you, now we can put this to rest.

footpaul
06-07-2007, 05:14 AM
I actually had a mock election between Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich. Giant Douche won by a landslide.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:14 AM
Ugh..the vain in my forhead is going to explode. Its like talking to a brick wall. It doesn't matter what I say. I could start giving links and stories and all of that good stuff but it doesnt matter. Its a lost cause! Its like, if someone came up to one of us with a bunch of cannabis facts that were miconstrude we would argue, right? Sure but some people don't and or wont hear your side.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:17 AM
Animal Rights Uncompromised:
PETA's Tactics
PETA's aim is to stop animal suffering, and we use every available opportunity to reach people with our messages. Our gimmicks may sometimes seem silly, but they are vital if we are to reach the masses and initiate discussion, debate, questioning of the status quo, and, of course, action. The current situation is critical for billions of animals, and our goal is to make the public aware of the issues??even if it means stripping for our "I'd Rather Go Naked Than Wear Fur" Campaign.

The fact is that in this tabloid era, the media usually do not consider the facts alone interesting enough to cover. Colorful and controversial gimmicks, however??such as jumping on stage at a fashion show to protest a designer's shameless promotion of fur??consistently grab headlines, bringing the animal rights message to audiences around the country and often the world.

Experience has taught us that provocative and controversial campaigns make the difference between keeping important yet depressing subjects invisible and exposing them to the public.

PETA makes a point of offering something for all tastes-from the most conservative to the most radical and from the most outrageous to the most refined-and this approach has proved to be very successful. In the quarter-century since PETA was founded, it has grown into the largest animal rights group in the world, with more than 1.6 million members and supporters worldwide. PETA has achieved countless victories for animals as a result of both undercover investigations supported by careful documentation and a tireless pursuit of justice through the courts and through colorful demonstrations, stunts, and campaigns that drew international media coverage to previously hidden issues.

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:17 AM
Ugh..the vain in my forhead is going to explode. Its like talking to a brick wall. It doesn't matter what I say. I could start giving links and stories and all of that good stuff but it doesnt matter. Its a lost cause! Its like, if someone came up to one of us with a bunch of cannabis facts that were miconstrude we would argue, right? Sure but some people don't and or wont hear your side.

Rebgirl you should come to Norfolk. You would love our mindset and the fact that PETA is right in the middle of it. Their headquarters is a beautiful place actually. Amazing harbour view.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:17 AM
Ugh..the vain in my forhead is going to explode. Its like talking to a brick wall. It doesn't matter what I say. I could start giving links and stories and all of that good stuff but it doesnt matter. Its a lost cause! Its like, if someone came up to one of us with a bunch of cannabis facts that were miconstrude we would argue, right? Sure but some people don't and or wont hear your side.

I guess we both feel that way then. What do you say when the top members of your organization make these types of claims? Are you saying that they didn't make these claims? Or are you saying that dosnt represent most of the organization. If you pick the second one then I suggest you find another animals rights group because PETA is not accurately representing your opinions.

footpaul
06-07-2007, 05:18 AM
Shake those titties when you vote bitch lol
Also the deformed crossbreed sating "kill me"

Psycho4Bud
06-07-2007, 05:19 AM
1. P4B, you cant kick people out of a FREE organization! And when they say that crazy shit on the boards and such we disown them. We cut them off like the cancerous limbs they are!


Question.....I ride a Harley; what's PETA's official standpoint on my body being covered in leather from the neck down?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:19 AM
Rebgirl you should come to Norfolk. You would love our mindset and the fact that PETA is right in the middle of it. Their headquarters is a beautiful place actually. Amazing harbour view.

I would love to, actually I live in Pittsburgh, PA so its not far away (that much haha). They have great college programs.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:20 AM
Question.....I ride a Harley; what's PETA's official standpoint on my body being covered in leather from the neck down?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

hahah omg your so funny, it hurts to breath, omg, omg ;)

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:22 AM
I guess we both feel that way then. What do you say when the top members of your organization make these types of claims? Are you saying that they didn't make these claims? Or are you saying that dosnt represent most of the organization. If you pick the second one then I suggest you find another animals rights group because PETA is not accurately representing your opinions.


any one is free to answer btw............................................... ............

footpaul
06-07-2007, 05:25 AM
This debate is over. P Diddy owns Peta that is it.

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:27 AM
The top people of PETA's words were misconstrude. That are not as extreme as some of the media wants you to believe. And if you think PETA is extreme, have fun with the other ones. Organizations like the ATF are NUTS, with a capital 'N'. Of course however I support our local anti-kill shelters and such.

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:28 AM
Just for the record, I don't support PETA, I love my meat. We have canines for a reason. But I do know FIRST HAND that the negative reputation they have isn't worth the paper it's printed on. I've been to this place many times, I know tons of people that work there, I know how they do shit around there, I've helped them out with different things around the city quite a few times. You can't count on internet articles and youtube videos to give you straight facts. It's usually either miscontrued or it's those "extremists" that claim PETA. Unless you've been there in person and witnessed the way they run shit, you can't believe all the bullshit you hear. I've been there many times. I have witnessed. I know the truth.

Psycho4Bud
06-07-2007, 05:31 AM
I love my meat. But I do know FIRST HAND.

I should be a journalist!:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:33 AM
The top people of PETA's words were misconstrude. That are not as extreme as some of the media wants you to believe. And if you think PETA is extreme, have fun with the other ones. Organizations like the ATF are NUTS, with a capital 'N'. Of course however I support our local anti-kill shelters and such.

Well then I guess we will never be able to end this because you think that the facts were twisted and I don't. Neither of us will be able to prove the other one wrong.


oh and btw Rebgirl I made this thread when I saw you were a member when I saw it on your myspace. :D

edit: It wasn't a direct attack against you, it's just what made me think of it.

couch-potato
06-07-2007, 05:33 AM
Ugh..the vain in my forhead is going to explode. Its like talking to a brick wall. It doesn't matter what I say. I could start giving links and stories and all of that good stuff but it doesnt matter. Its a lost cause!


I get the same feelings when talking to a creationist. But that is besides the point. Never cared for PETA, but I've only heard negative things. To me they seem overly-zealous.

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:34 AM
I should be a journalist!:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

hahaha EXACTLY how shit get miscontrued

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:35 AM
I agree hun, I have nothing aginst you at all. We just disagree thats all :) . And so, do you like my myspace then haha. You wanna pick something ELSE from there thats near and dear to me? How about you take a stab at the second admendment, or how about cancer, oh no, I know! How about just stab me in the lung and save the time ;)

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:37 AM
I agree hun, I have nothing aginst you at all. We just disagree thats all :) . And so, do you like my myspace then haha. You wanna pick something ELSE from there thats near and dear to me? How about you take a stab at the second admendment, or how about cancer, oh no, I know! How about just stab me in the lung and save the time ;)

nope, I just looked. Nothing else.

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:38 AM
I do like that 420 girls icon though

Thepossumdance
06-07-2007, 05:39 AM
...umm fuck PETA... im fine with the humane society i find them to be extreme as well but at least they arent assholes about it... PETA protesters are some of the rudest most ignorent and just all around nasty human beings i have encountered in my daily life here in LA... seriously (i have to see them at least once a year (mothers day) and unfortunately its often way more than that). I'm all for free speech but you dont have to get in my face, yell at me, or put your fucking filthy hands on me about issues that I honestly could give a fuck about... I'ma eat my veal, no i dont fucking care it is a baby cow... and no I fucking dont care it was raised chained up in a box either... It fucking tastes good... so please stop trying to hand me your retarded flier

lol unless someone also said this...
Ingrid once said she would not support a cure for AIDs if it came through animal testing... if someone wants ill go find the real quote (its not hard i wrote a nice speach on pro-animal testing a while back)

wow sorry if I was a little mean i was just remembering my run-ins with PETA and it made me a little angry

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 05:42 AM
lol unless someone also said this...
Ingrid once said she would not support a cure for AIDs if it came through animal testing... if someone wants ill go find the real quote (its not hard i wrote a nice speach on pro-animal testing a while back)

wow sorry if I was a little mean i was just remembering my run-ins with PETA and it made me a little angry

I remember seeing that in the past hour or so but idk if it was mentioned in the tread or not

rebgirl420
06-07-2007, 05:43 AM
Yeah im a PETA member and ive never been rude like that and thanks, the 420 icon girl thing is great. That site is pretty badass

Thepossumdance
06-07-2007, 05:48 AM
lol ya i understand that not all PETA members are fuckin insane but god damn take a trip to Los Angeles... it seems as though the PETA members here need to learn that protesting is fine but harassing people is totally seperate and not ok...

also wtf only farm raised veal from now on? fuck that shit, its not as tender...
even worse though is the no foie gras rules that are setting in next year in Cali and are already in other states

ok peace ima go smoke

timothylearyisdead
06-07-2007, 05:55 AM
everybody in LA is crazy...

S.P.Q.R.
06-07-2007, 06:52 AM
Fuck PETA and everything about it... I love hunting and fishing and any 'activists' who wish to waste their time trying to ruin that for me can go suck a muslim.. However, I am all for protecting the forest and trying to help out mother earth :thumbsup:PETA just takes it too far and flat out piss me off

Polymirize
06-07-2007, 07:49 AM
Hmmm, poor Rebgirl's been trying to provide some well thought out arguments and facts.

But 420 hasn't bothered to express an original opinion, thankfully his trump card is some clips of Penn & Teller and South Park.

Hilarious.

A classic american debate, the type that completely avoids the point. Turns out we all lose I guess...

Nightcrewman
06-07-2007, 09:03 AM
^ oh and pigs have the intelligence of a third grader, thats nice lets kill them violently.

Some of the third graders I have come across, well, lets just say the pigs would have no trouble in winning an intelligence contest :)

Cheers

NCM

M3nt0R
06-07-2007, 02:02 PM
^ oh and pigs have the intelligence of a third grader, thats nice lets kill them violently.

what are you basing this on? in what aspects?

Can a pig write its name down on a piece of paper?

Can a pig carry on with a basic conversation?

Can a pig attend a 3rd grade class and pass it?

Can a pig perform basic mathematic functions?


I hate when people say things llike that...intelligaence of a 3rd grader? I don't doubt that they might be smart, but when they compare it to humans, it's utter bullshit.

I know of cases where a pig has gone into the owner's house and killed the owner's infant child that was in a crib. I've heard it at least once, but that's just instinct. They're not smart, they have a more developed instinct if anything, and even that I doubt.

Like I said, I don't care if the use a staple to poke its eyes and sand paper to rub the skin off while it's still alive...I really don't care. You may be an animal rights activist but I truly do not care in the least bit. if they skin animals alive, I don't care. if they stick animals in meet grinders feet first, I don't care. i've seen the videos, I've wittnessed animals being killed...it doesn't move me, it doesn't touch me.

Stop getting so dramatic. this is a serious issue to you, alright, but when 420 told you he saw it off your site you said oh no hun don't worry we just disagree...then you took a low-ass blow by telling him to poke fun at other things like your cancer and shit..that's pretty damn disrespectful. he wanted to spark a debate or inform others on his views because soemthign on your site reminded him....he wasn't personally attacking you, he said it himself...

Tone it down a bit will you?

Iplaybass182
06-07-2007, 02:47 PM
I am also a member of PETA:People eating tasty animals. But seriously I don't like animal abuse, that is just wrong but eating them is too good, sorry.

I didn't read through all this yet so sorry if someone else gave the PETA acroynum.

M3nt0R
06-07-2007, 03:38 PM
Nope bass player, you're the first to give that interpretation of the acronym :)

420marijuana420
06-07-2007, 11:15 PM
Nope bass player, you're the first to give that interpretation of the acronym :)

theres a website dedicated to people eating tasty animals

couch-potato
06-08-2007, 01:42 AM
everybody in LA is crazy...


He speaks the truth, I lost my mind a few years back. Life is a lot better now that I've become insane.

footpaul
06-08-2007, 04:24 AM
Hmmm, poor Rebgirl's been trying to provide some well thought out arguments and facts.

But 420 hasn't bothered to express an original opinion, thankfully his trump card is some clips of Penn & Teller and South Park.

Hilarious.

A classic american debate, the type that completely avoids the point. Turns out we all lose I guess...

Ahh a cynic. What would Ameica be without you? (See I like sarcasm too :thumbsup:)

Polymirize
06-08-2007, 04:53 AM
Ahh a cynic. What would Ameica be without you? (See I like sarcasm too :thumbsup:)

Sarcasm? How about I answer you regardless...

I like to think it would be a lot less questioning. Which is a scary thought. More close eyed and open mouthed, ready to swallow whatever its given. More attracted to bright, sparkly things.

d00d557
06-08-2007, 06:20 PM
do animals even have souls?:wtf:

Psycho4Bud
06-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Question.....I ride a Harley; what's PETA's official standpoint on my body being covered in leather from the neck down?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

PETA Media Center > Factsheets > Leather: Animals Abused And Killed for Their Skins (http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=58)

Found that answer on my own. I guess I'll keep on wearing my leathers when I ride out for a hamburger.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

memoryburner
06-08-2007, 07:14 PM
To me it doesnt' make a difference of they shoot a pig in the head, or if they bash its skull open with a wooden spoon.

exactly...thats what i didnt really understand about the videos on the PETA website (the ones of the slaughter houses)...if the animals are going to die and become food anyway...why would it matter how they are being treated before their time comes?

Polymirize
06-09-2007, 08:06 AM
why would it matter how they are being treated before their time comes?

You're going to die someday, does it matter at all how you're treated before then?

lovetogrow
06-09-2007, 08:59 AM
ok i got a couple things to say as i eat my steak and braturst.
PETA is the anti-christ!
i dont care how my meat dies as long as its dead when it hits my plate.
just split their wegs and save the bullets for the peta members.
i have decided to stop feeding my rotts cats and small dogs etc, and to start feeding them PETA PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whos with me?
woohoo: i mean cats etc only fills them up for a min and dog food is getting high priced but a peta person, thats gotta last a.... 3-4 days. and theres over 750,000 of them. woohoo:

lovetogrow
06-09-2007, 09:01 AM
bratwurst, sorry that bite taste so good i forgot a letter

Polymirize
06-10-2007, 01:34 AM
you must really love the sausage, huh?

TheFatKid
06-10-2007, 02:44 AM
All I want is for PETA and its members to stop shoving its views down my throat. I will continue eating meat because its fucking delicious and healthy. Same thing with religion. Stfu, let me live my life.

nightlight
06-10-2007, 03:25 AM
PETA is a terrorist organization, sorry to say.
Those are all lies. Not even the A.L.F. Threatens individuals with death to get their point across. I am a proud supporter of both organizations.

nightlight
06-10-2007, 03:28 AM
All I want is for PETA and its members to stop shoving its views down my throat. I will continue eating meat because its fucking delicious and healthy. Same thing with religion. Stfu, let me live my life.

Man you are fooling yourself if you tell yourself meet is healthy. The human body does not even digest it properly. Sure there are some health benefits with salmon but it is common knowledge that there is more Yin than Yang when it comes to meat.

nightlight
06-10-2007, 04:25 AM
If there was such a tofu i would love to try it.

cobracommander1079
06-10-2007, 04:36 AM
p.e.t.a-is not all bad. you can find extremists in most all protest groups

higher4hockey
06-10-2007, 07:15 PM
PETA ...that stands for People Eating Tasty Animals right?