View Full Version : Hotdogs
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:16 AM
What do you put on them???
BlAzInIt4:20
06-02-2007, 04:22 AM
banana lol
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 04:25 AM
Mayo, mustard, relish, and catsup ( not ketchup, ewwww!!) Not enough people have mayo on their hot dogs. Sad really.;)
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:27 AM
Mayo, mustard, relish, and catsup ( not ketchup, ewwww!!) Not enough people have mayo on their hot dogs. Sad really.;)
Yes I remember Catsup,,,they still make that???
Its a Plant
06-02-2007, 04:30 AM
Melted cheese, ketchup, and onions all day, every day. I like mustard more with brats to be honest. :jointsmile:
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 04:31 AM
Yes I remember Catsup,,,they still make that???
Naw... I think the S.P.C.A. got involved somehow. I hear you can still get it on the blackmarket, though.
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:34 AM
I am a twin and I always liked mustard and my twin ketchup... I never could understand that ketchup thing...
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:35 AM
Naw... I think the S.P.C.A. got involved somehow. I hear you can still get it on the blackmarket, though.
World Wide Words: Ketchup versus catsup (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ket2.htm)
geonagual
06-02-2007, 04:36 AM
ONIONS AND MUSTARD ALL THE WAY!! Like the dogs at Costco...ChEAP! and good as fuck. I am hungry again.
affasd
06-02-2007, 04:36 AM
what is the diference of catsup.... i used to like hotdogs but i recently decided i think they are nasty
friendoftheend
06-02-2007, 04:36 AM
Chili and cheese mmmmmm:rastasmoke:
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:37 AM
Melted cheese, ketchup, and onions all day, every day. I like mustard more with brats to be honest. :jointsmile:
I like cheese on a steak or fries,,,not on the dog... I like pickles and onions or chili on the dogs...
BlAzInIt4:20
06-02-2007, 04:37 AM
i love hotdogswith grilled onions and mayo, oh man taste so good.. the best ones are in downtown LA, or the best that i have ever tryed...
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:38 AM
ONIONS AND MUSTARD ALL THE WAY!! Like the dogs at Costco...ChEAP! and good as fuck. I am hungry again.
I am making dogs on the barbie in a few...
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 04:39 AM
World Wide Words: Ketchup versus catsup (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ket2.htm)
LMAO!:giggity:
Breukelen advocaat
06-02-2007, 04:39 AM
What happened to Sauerkraut? I can't believe that nobody mentioned it. In Brooklyn, where the hot dog was invented, it's just always there when you get a frank, along with mustard and sometimes other things.
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:47 AM
I like crout... when I moved out here toward PA it's pickles and mustard...
FreeVenice
06-02-2007, 04:48 AM
Chilli, Cheese, and onions. . .
LOL, Coney Island made the world/country a fatter place. . .Thats practically where fast food was born right???
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 04:49 AM
Damn............... I really want a hot dog now!
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:50 AM
Damn............... I really want a hot dog now!
I know,,, I am so siked...
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 04:53 AM
I am a twin and I always liked mustard and my twin ketchup... I never could understand that ketchup thing...
Thats very cool. I think I remember you saying you were a mirror twin( everything opposite, like looking in a mirror). Very interesting.
FreeVenice
06-02-2007, 04:55 AM
I had a ghetto one with BBQ sauce on it last night. . .it was the only cond. I had. besides mayo, or butter. . .and yes I had it in Sandwich bread. . .
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 04:57 AM
i hate hotdogs, but dont' expect one to enter my mouth wihtout wolf brand chili and shredded cheese...
BlAzInIt4:20
06-02-2007, 04:58 AM
hey slip.. rep me :thumbsup:
Skink
06-02-2007, 04:59 AM
I had a ghetto one with BBQ sauce on it last night. . .it was the only cond. I had. besides mayo, or butter. . .and yes I had it in Sandwich bread. . .
Eddie Murphy would call that a house dog...
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:01 AM
i hate hotdogs, but dont' expect one to enter my mouth wihtout wolf brand chili and shredded cheese...
Do you hate all sausages or just dogs???
Breukelen advocaat
06-02-2007, 05:03 AM
The hot dog was not invented by Nathans of Coney Island. It was invented around 1870 by a Coney Island restaurant owner named Chalrles Feltman, who was a German immigrant. Nathan Handwerker worked for him and, with encouragement from legendary performers Jimmy Durante and Eddie Cantor, started his own business in 1916, charging only a nickel for a hot dog. Feltman's were a dime. Feltman's closed many years go. According to my late father-in-law,, their hot dogs were better than Nathan's.
One thing that is totally foreign to Brooklyn, and New York, is putting cheese with hot dogs. It's unheard of here, probably because mixing dairy and meat is against the Jewish religion. I've never seen hot dogs with cheese in Brooklyn or NYC. I'm not ever Jewish, and it sounds gross, lol.
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:04 AM
hot dogs.. neve rtasted that great ot me to begin with... then i started thinking of all the things that could be ground up in 'em to make 'em...
if i'm possibly gonna be eating anus and esophogus it better taste fucking great :thumbsup: like sausage... i love sausage.... but i have to ignore where the casing is from to eat it or i lose my appetite...
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:05 AM
I worked with a girl once who was a converted vegatarian... At a Picnic she took a hotdog bun and put pickles onions and mustard on it,,,I felt so bad for her,,,I could see she wanted the hotdog...
crudemood
06-02-2007, 05:06 AM
Relish and those tangy little onion thingies they have at the stands. I love toronto street meat :D
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:07 AM
i'll eat 'em... but i'd rather find something else.. but like at a cook out or w/e i'll eat 'em... they just better have chili and cheese on 'em... and BA lol you have no damn idea what you're missing... go get some canned chili without beans a pack of hot dogs, bag of grated chees eand some buns....
cook the dogs, put 'em in the buns put a couple tbsp worht of chili (enough to completely cover the dog) and cover with cheese... i garuntee you won't be disappointed.
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:08 AM
hot dogs.. neve rtasted that great ot me to begin with... then i started thinking of all the things that could be ground up in 'em to make 'em...
if i'm possibly gonna be eating anus and esophogus it better taste fucking great :thumbsup: like sausage... i love sausage.... but i have to ignore where the casing is from to eat it or i lose my appetite...
Oh man get a grip... I love beef tongue and pigs feet... My italian side of the family made Tripe on holidays...
geonagual
06-02-2007, 05:08 AM
hey slip.. rep me :thumbsup:
HAHA!!!! Thats a girl that knows what she wants...that was great...even she knows that slip is the most powerful in all the land that is Cannibis.. HAHA..
I love the talk about ghetto dogs...I have had them on sandwich bread..with some italian dressing..
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:09 AM
won't catch me eating it, sorry :p
just not my thing... i realize technically it's no worse, just can't get myself over it... i've tried some 'weird' thigns in my day, i've never been disapointed by my instincts...
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:10 AM
HAHA!!!! Thats a girl that knows what she wants...that was great...even she knows that slip is the most powerful in all the land that is Cannibis.. HAHA..
I love the talk about ghetto dogs...I have had them on sandwich bread..with some italian dressing..
actually, bf or lip prolly has the same or more then me :p i remember skink saying awhile back mods rep power isn't as powerful as normal people but they can repeat-rep people...
FreeVenice
06-02-2007, 05:10 AM
Italian? How was that? did you cook it on a fork over the fire? lol
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:11 AM
won't catch me eating it, sorry :p
just not my thing... i realize technically it's no worse, just can't get myself over it... i've tried some 'weird' thigns in my day, i've never been disapointed by my instincts...
God,,,whats in a mcdonalds burger???
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:13 AM
actually, bf or lip prolly has the same or more then me :p i remember skink saying awhile back mods rep power isn't as powerful as normal people but they can repeat-rep people...
True,,,I can rep repeatedly...
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:14 AM
God,,,whats in a mcdonalds burger???
i dunno, i hate mcdonalds anyways >.> :p i'm a cook, i prefer to cook my own food...
actualy that right there might be it... a diner, only sees the prepared food... a cook, even given a meal after cooking knows what it looks like and what it took to get it there <.<
so... maybe i can't eat said foods just cuz of how disgusting they look before hand and i'm not used to them... but honestly i judge on taste.. like squid, looks fucking nasty, i ate it (and have cooked it) wasn't as terrible, but not good enough for me to eat, i definately didn't like it, but it wasn't like a gag worthy momment...
i assume same would be as tounge.... and liver.... i only 'tolerated' it when i was drunk as shit <.< definately wouldn't like it if i was sober.. has nothing to do with what organ is either, i didn't like the texture or the taste.
FreeVenice
06-02-2007, 05:16 AM
They cut their breakfast eggs off a log like coins. . .and everything is freeze dryed
Breukelen advocaat
06-02-2007, 05:17 AM
i'll eat 'em... but i'd rather find something else.. but like at a cook out or w/e i'll eat 'em... they just better have chili and cheese on 'em... and BA lol you have no damn idea what you're missing... go get some canned chili without beans a pack of hot dogs, bag of grated chees eand some buns....
cook the dogs, put 'em in the buns put a couple tbsp worht of chili (enough to completely cover the dog) and cover with cheese... i garuntee you won't be disappointed.
I'll pass that recipe on, 'cause I don't eat cheese anymore. I'd like to, but I have problems with it.
The classic Nathan's hot dog with mustard and Sauerkraut in Coney Island is still pretty good - but the meat doesn't come close to being as good as it was before they franchised, and even started selling their franks in supermarkets.
It's impossible to describe great Brooklyn pizza, real water bagels (both of which I can't eat anymore) and the old Nathan's hot dogs. It ain't just me, anybody that tried them will testify to that. Even though Nathan's isn't so hot anymore, there's still a number of good pizza and bagel places left in Brooklyn.
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:19 AM
I'll pass that recipe on, 'cause I don't eat cheese anymore. I'd like to, but I have problems with it.
The classic Nathan's hot dog with mustard and saeurkraut, in Coney Island, is still great - but the meat isn't as good as it used to be before they franchised, and started selling their franks in supermarkets.
It's impossible to describe great Brooklyn pizza, real water bagels (both of which I can't eat anymore) and the old Nathan's hot dogs. It ain't just me, anybody that tried them will testify to that. Even though Nathan's isn't so hot anymore, there's still a number of good pizza and bagel places left in Brooklyn.
=/ you can't eat one bite? just to know what you're missing out on? <.< i'm serious.... down here you get looked at crazy if you don't like cheese or chili on your hotdogs lol... it's just that good... it's become the norm...
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 05:20 AM
Skink..... How are those hot dogs coming along? I have my catsup
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:22 AM
wth is the diffrence between ketchup and castup? (yes i read the link, nothing there helped me...?) i always thought they were the same thing..
btw, as little as a year ago or so you could still buy heinz Catsup in the original glass bottles... ?
happiestmferoutthere
06-02-2007, 05:24 AM
Oh, I guess nobody calls it catsup any more. Even my spell checker is having a fit. Its old school talk.;) I've actually always called it catsup.
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:26 AM
Skink..... How are those hot dogs coming along? I have my catsup
I did not even light the grill yet,,,you got time...
geonagual
06-02-2007, 05:31 AM
I did not even light the grill yet,,,you got time...
at this pace..I will be able to make it there. LOL
Italian is good on lots of things...
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:32 AM
i dunno, i hate mcdonalds anyways >.> :p i'm a cook, i prefer to cook my own food...
actualy that right there might be it... a diner, only sees the prepared food... a cook, even given a meal after cooking knows what it looks like and what it took to get it there <.<
so... maybe i can't eat said foods just cuz of how disgusting they look before hand and i'm not used to them... but honestly i judge on taste.. like squid, looks fucking nasty, i ate it (and have cooked it) wasn't as terrible, but not good enough for me to eat, i definately didn't like it, but it wasn't like a gag worthy momment...
i assume same would be as tounge.... and liver.... i only 'tolerated' it when i was drunk as shit <.< definately wouldn't like it if i was sober.. has nothing to do with what organ is either, i didn't like the texture or the taste.
Beef tongue is so expensive now... My father would make lunch sandwich's for his crew and not tell them what was in it... almost everybody would sit to lunch and scarf them down,,,when he told them it was tongue most would put it down and stop eating,,,but I remember a few that asked him to make it again... mind plays a big part...
BlAzInIt4:20
06-02-2007, 05:34 AM
i like lengua(tongue) in tacos yumm
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:38 AM
i like lengua(tongue) in tacos yumm
It really is tender and tastee...
weedmaster
06-02-2007, 05:42 AM
always have horseradish and uncooked onions on my dog or a fire chili sauce.
Skink
06-02-2007, 05:44 AM
always have horseradish and uncooked onions on my dog or a fire chili sauce.
Yeah,,, I like my onions crunchy too... I'm off to lite the grill...
the yeag
06-02-2007, 05:45 AM
mustard and a lil onion.....nuthin else
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 05:53 AM
Beef tongue is so expensive now... My father would make lunch sandwich's for his crew and not tell them what was in it... almost everybody would sit to lunch and scarf them down,,,when he told them it was tongue most would put it down and stop eating,,,but I remember a few that asked him to make it again... mind plays a big part...
lol down here in cow land you can buy a cow tounge bigger then a roast for like 3 bucks... they even sell them down at HEB and shit...
geonagual
06-02-2007, 06:12 AM
lol down here in cow land you can buy a cow tounge bigger then a roast for like 3 bucks... they even sell them down at HEB and shit...
Whats HEB? Like 7-11..LOL
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 06:16 AM
grocery store, closer to krogers, randals, etc..
Skink
06-02-2007, 06:57 AM
lol down here in cow land you can buy a cow tounge bigger then a roast for like 3 bucks... they even sell them down at HEB and shit...
Damn there like 15/18 bucks here...
RamblerGambler
06-02-2007, 07:37 AM
Somehow the best hotdog I've ever eaten happened to be in Poland. To this day I still dont know what was on it. Just a heaping of delicious condiments and toppings. Including crunchies.
xcrispi
06-02-2007, 08:12 AM
Put on your hotdog ?
How could you possibly improve upon something containing hooves , snouts , and assholes ?
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
Reefer Rogue
06-02-2007, 08:15 AM
Ketchup and mustard but i voted ketchup.
RamblerGambler
06-02-2007, 08:22 AM
Because those snouts and assholes come together to form something great: freedom. Thats right, hotdogs are the embodiment of the American spirit. And if you love freedom, realize that this tender cooked brat stands between you and jihading freedom haters. With the help of a few condiments, well, your democracy can still be standing strong. You do love freedom, dont you?
slipknotpsycho
06-02-2007, 08:34 AM
Because those snouts and assholes come together to form something great: freedom. Thats right, hotdogs are the embodiment of the American spirit. And if you love freedom, realize that this tender cooked brat stands between you and jihading freedom haters. With the help of a few condiments, well, your democracy can still be standing strong. You do love freedom, dont you?
yeah but i prefer mine to taste more like bacon or something <.<
lil josh
06-02-2007, 11:15 AM
How many people actually know what hodogs are actually made of?
What are hot dogs made of? (http://www.coolquiz.com/trivia/explain/docs/hotdog.asp)
I like mine with ketchup :)
Never tried it with cheese on :) could be nice
always have horseradish and uncooked onions on my dog or a fire chili sauce.
I LOVE loads of horseradish with roast beef, or redcurrent and cranberry jelly and mint sause with Roast Lamb. I think i'll have to get myself some beef for tomorrow now :D
Cook myself a nice roast dinner. :rastasmoke:
lil josh
06-02-2007, 11:48 AM
Did you know?
# July is National Hot Dog Month
# An average American eats 60 hot dogs a year
# In 1893, hot dogs became the standard cuisine for baseball games.
# Controversial debate surrounds the creation of the hot dog. Who really created the first hot dog? Although the city of Frankfurt, Germany credits itself for the origin of the first frankfurter in 1852, some argue that Johann Georghehner, a butcher from Coburg, Germany created the first frankfurter in the 1600s.
FreeVenice
06-02-2007, 12:24 PM
Somehow the best hotdog I've ever eaten happened to be in Poland. To this day I still dont know what was on it. Just a heaping of delicious condiments and toppings. Including crunchies.
Somehow they are kinda known for the best, since it kinda started around there. . . Krouts a bold step though. . .
I like mine with musterd and Sour Krout
or that red onion slop
stinkyattic
06-02-2007, 01:02 PM
Not a big hot dog fan, but spicy brown mustard with sauerkraut hides the taste of mechanically separated pork assholes best.
Or horseradish- the real stuff, not that Kraft shit.
lil josh
06-02-2007, 01:07 PM
Lol stinky u used the phrase 'mechanically separated' twice in under 5 mins on 2 different threads !ha!
4gan2ja0
06-02-2007, 05:05 PM
ketchup, mustard, cheese and franks red hot
BlAzInIt4:20
06-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Kobayashi Sets Brat-Eating Record, Hot Dog Champion Takeru Kobayashi Eats Record 58 Brats in 10 Minutes in Wisconsin Competition - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/06/ap/strange/mainD8JAJE2O0.shtml)
the best hot dog eater
geonagual
06-02-2007, 05:22 PM
IN California, we have the largest hotdog chain in the world...
shit, I just seen they are in texas, arizona, nevada...they are in a lot of places
Wienersnitzel..
I dont like it though
www.Wienerschnitzel.com (http://www.wienerschnitzel.com/)
Fuck, I cant download an image right now..my computer is running slow for some reason...imagine the picture is of a hot dog. LOL
BlAzInIt4:20
06-02-2007, 05:33 PM
hahah heres some hotdog pictures for yall lmao
420MissHighTimes420
06-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Ewww ketcup! Ewww mustard! Ewww everything that goes onto hotdogs.
MMM plain hot dogs though.
geonagual
06-02-2007, 10:05 PM
I do like chili on them sometimes..
Conies...skyline..like the have in Cincinnatti
it is chili, mustard, cheese and ONIONS..those things are major grub.
Skink
06-03-2007, 03:33 AM
Ewww ketcup! Ewww mustard! Ewww everything that goes onto hotdogs.
MMM plain hot dogs though.
I agree on the ketchup...
rebgirl420
06-03-2007, 03:36 AM
JUST ketchup please. But eating them raw is pretty good too.
Skink
06-03-2007, 03:44 AM
Ahhahahah,,,reb likes the raw wieners...
rebgirl420
06-03-2007, 03:52 AM
hahaha you caught me haha
weedmaster
06-03-2007, 06:21 AM
I LOVE loads of horseradish with roast beef, or redcurrent and cranberry jelly and mint sause with Roast Lamb. I think i'll have to get myself some beef for tomorrow now :D
Cook myself a nice roast dinner. :rastasmoke:
we have a roast on mondays, because the kids have football or cricket on sundays, bloody kids lol, roast dinner with a nice bottle of wine and a big fat spliff for desert , enjoy that roast lip:thumbsup:
Cheers mate - i got it cooking now. Got a bottle of red to myself, just broke out the bong and smoked some homemade hash, so im good for the time being, gunner dish up at 12:45 - and i cant wait. First roast dinner i've cooked myself for months and months. :D
Paid £20 for the beef from the butchers, which i though was a tad expensive, but thinking about it the leftovers will be used in my sandwiches - roast beef and english mustard sandwich. Lovely.
grasshopper420
06-03-2007, 11:24 AM
im not partial to anything that looks like a rather unappetizing part of the creature it was named after
Skink
06-03-2007, 11:31 AM
im not partial to anything that looks like a rather unappetizing part of the creature it was named after
We named it a Weiner too... sometimes I freak out when eating chicken gizzards...
FreeVenice
06-04-2007, 08:07 AM
IN California, we have the largest hotdog chain in the world...
shit, I just seen they are in texas, arizona, nevada...they are in a lot of places
Wienersnitzel..
I dont like it though
www.Wienerschnitzel.com (http://www.wienerschnitzel.com/)
Fuck, I cant download an image right now..my computer is running slow for some reason...imagine the picture is of a hot dog. LOL
Don't forget Pink's in Hollywood, Those dogs are god-like. . .
geonagual
06-04-2007, 02:51 PM
Don't forget Pink's in Hollywood, Those dogs are god-like. . .
OH..thats right..Pinks..they have some good ass hotdogs..:thumbsup:
RedLocks
06-04-2007, 03:10 PM
World Wide Words: Ketchup versus catsup (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ket2.htm)
yeah I was gonna say, isn't catsup just the way it is spelled by certain brands.. lol anyways, I like my dogs with chili sauce on em. Was watching Scooby Doo few months back and I got some insane cravings for a hot dog, ended up going to a grays papaya in the village heh
geonagual
06-04-2007, 03:12 PM
yeah I was gonna say, isn't catsup just the way it is spelled by certain brands.. lol anyways, I like my dogs with chili sauce on em. Was watching Scooby Doo few months back and I got some insane cravings for a hot dog, ended up going to a grays papaya in the village heh
Did you get any scooby snacks while you were there? LOL
TX Girl
06-04-2007, 03:31 PM
I did not like hot dogs until I tried those Hebrew Nationals, they are damn good and don't taste all assholey.
I like lotsa mustard and even more relish on them
or cheese and chili w no beans
RedLocks
06-04-2007, 03:31 PM
Did you get any scooby snacks while you were there? LOL
nahh LOL, but I smoked a Dooby
the yeag
06-04-2007, 10:37 PM
for the last time ketchup on hotdogs is only for people who live in trailer parks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
footpaul
06-04-2007, 10:40 PM
Dogs in New Jersey are the best because their deep fried. If you're ever in Northern NJ go to Rutt's Hut in Clifton.
Skink
06-04-2007, 10:43 PM
I did not like hot dogs until I tried those Hebrew Nationals, they are damn good and don't taste all assholey.
I like lotsa mustard and even more relish on them
or cheese and chili w no beans
Hebrew Nationals all Beef is my second choice,,,Sabbrets natural casing is #1 for me...
one of two ways
ketchup mustard and onion
or
chili, cheese and onion.
Skink
06-04-2007, 10:46 PM
OH..thats right..Pinks..they have some good ass hotdogs..:thumbsup:
Bobby Flay just had a throw down with Pinks and won,,,but the both used guacamole???
Frivolous248
06-04-2007, 10:52 PM
BBQ sauce motherfuckers!
higher4hockey
06-04-2007, 10:53 PM
hotdogs are my forte.
hotdogs are better with a little imagination. i like to take them and cut them down the middle to split them into two different parts, then stuff the middle with cheese jalepenos and then put them back together and seal them by wrapping bacon around them. cook them on the grill and you have a bacon/jalapeno/cheese hotdog.
not very healthy, but man is it good. use your imagination with them, just tossing em on the grill and charring them is no good~
Breukelen advocaat
06-04-2007, 11:07 PM
NEW YORK TIMES
It's All in How the Dog Is Served - New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/25/dining/25dogs.html?ex=1274673600&en=9a9edf7f48264d58&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss)
May 25, 2005
It's All in How the Dog Is Served
By ED LEVINE
YOU know those hot dogs that you know and love, and can't wait to eat this time of year? The ones served at Katz's Delicatessen, Gray's Papaya, Papaya King, the legendary Dominick's truck in Queens and the best "dirty water dog" carts?
They're all the same dog, manufactured by Marathon Enterprises, of East Rutherford, N.J., the parent company of Sabrett. They may vary in size, preparation and condiment selection (and Papaya King has Marathon add a secret spice to its mixture), but they're the same ol' dog. In fact, until a few years ago, Marathon made Nathan's hot dogs.
So, you may think you would have to work to find a truly special hot dog, one that stands out because of the frank itself, its trimmings, the bun or the surroundings. But New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are full of standouts, as I discovered in a nitrite-filled hot dog blitz.
Let's define our terms. A kosher hot dog is all beef and made under rabbinical supervision. It is skinless or stuffed into collagen casings, because natural casings are not permitted. Hebrew National and Empire National are the kosher hot dogs most often found in delis and supermarkets. Hebrew National is better known, but Empire National is the best kosher hot dog I've found. It is meaty, garlicky and just salty enough. You can find it in New York at the Second Avenue Deli and at Ben's Best in Rego Park, Queens.
What I call kosher-style franks are also all beef with a lot of the same spices, but they have a natural casing, these days made from sheep's intestines. It is the natural casing that gives the best hot dogs their wondrous snap and bite.
Many hot dog lovers around the country love franks made with beef and pork, either stuffed into natural casings or skinless. I think they are mushy, soft and underseasoned, but Walter's, a beloved pagoda-shaped hot dog emporium in Mamaroneck in Westchester County, splits and grills a hot dog made from beef, pork and veal.
So what constitutes a great hot dog? To me, it's a grilled, kosher-style frank served on a lightly toasted bun with slightly spicy mustard and a homemade onion or pickle relish that is neither too sweet nor too hot. The Old Town Bar on East 18th Street not only toasts the bun that encases its grilled natural-casing all-beef Sabrett dog, it butters it as well. Sublime! Sauerkraut is also fine atop my dogs, though every once in a while I crave one prepared Southern style, with cole slaw. My ideal dog should fit neatly into its bun, sticking out by at most an inch on each end.
The New York-style hot dog I love has been around for well over a hundred years. According to Arthur Schwartz, author of "New York City Food" (Stewart, Tabori & Chang, 2004), in the 1870's a German immigrant named Charles Feltman opened his octagonal Ocean Pavilion beer garden on West 10th Street and Surf Avenue in Coney Island and sold frankfurters on buns by the thousands. Feltman had an employee, Nathan Handwerker, who, egged on by his famous friends Jimmy Durante and Eddie Cantor, opened a cheaper hot dog stand in 1916 that catered to the many poor and working-class people frequenting Coney Island.
Nathan's Famous hot dogs are still in Coney Island, but also in fast-food kiosks all over the country. The Nathan's in Coney Island still serves an excellent natural-casing all-beef hot dog. But it also makes a skinless all-beef dog that is a pale imitation of the real thing. These not-so-hot dogs are available in supermarkets, at many ballparks in the region and - gasp! - at some Nathan's franchises in the tristate area.
Papaya King has been serving its inexpensive yet exemplary natural-casing hot dogs since 1939, seven years after Gus Poulos, a Greek immigrant, opened Hawaiian Tropical Drinks at 86th Street and Third Avenue. The Gray's Papaya minichain was started by a former Papaya King partner in 1973. They each serve the Sabrett dog grilled, on a bun that isn't quite as toasted as I would like. I can't taste the extra spice in the Papaya King hot dog, but its mustard is spicier. Many other hot dog emporiums have opened with papaya in their name, and many of them, including Papaya Dog, serve the ubiquitous natural-casing Sabrett.
On the other end of the price scale, New York has hot dogs that approach the $20 barrier. The Old Homestead serves an 11-ounce footlong made from American-raised kobe beef for $19. I found it mushy and bland, and not redeemed by the white truffle mustard, the kobe beef chili, the Vidalia onions, the Dutch bell peppers and the Cheshire Cheddar sauce that accompanied it. For the same price you can have a Gray's Papaya special of two stupendous hot dogs and a papaya drink ($2.45) for a week and still have change in your pocket. If you insist on a haute dog, share the 15-bite hot dog ($13.50) at the Brooklyn Diner USA. It is an excellent, snappy all-beef hot dog from a secret source (not Marathon, I'm told), weighs almost a pound, and comes with excellent onion rings and sauerkraut studded with juniper berries.
Upscale grocery stores sell Fearless Franks by Niman Ranch, the purveyor known for its "humanely" raised cattle, but the all-beef and the beef-and-pork versions are skinless and therefore not as flavorful. On the other hand, Sparky's, a hipster eatery in a former trucking garage in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, serves Niman's Old Fashioned Franks with a natural casing.
For wurst purists, Rolf Babiel serves a German-style beef-and-pork wiener made by Karl Ehmer on a crusty oblong roll with very fine German mustard at his Hallo Berlin cart at 54th Street and Fifth Avenue as well as at his Hell's Kitchen storefront on 10th Avenue. And The Patio, in Dag Hammarskjold Plaza, near the United Nations, serves a fine natural-casing all-beef footlong in an excellent toasted bun. It makes for a classy alfresco eating experience. Skip the canned chili offered as a topping.
Classic New York delis have a long and proud hot-dog-serving tradition. Sure, Katz's, on East Houston Street, serves that same old dog, but its 100-year-old trick is to leave the franks on the grill long enough so that the exterior is nice and crisp and the interior stays juicy. Artie's, on the Upper West Side, has been around for only six years, but savvy eaters know its dogs, made by Golden D, are slightly spicier than the competition's, and just chewy enough.
New Jersey has no one style of hot dog: the best establishments serve skinless pork-and-beef franks as well as kosher-style natural-casing beef ones. But many stands in the state deep-fry their dogs, with Rutt's Hut in Clifton varying its frying time depending on customer preference. New Jersey hot dog mavens speak of Rutt's dogs in hushed, reverent tones. I find them mushy and bland, though I do like the zesty relish. New Jerseyans looking for a snappy, garlicky all-beef hot dog should head to Syd's in Union.
Perhaps the most idiosyncratic version is the Italian hot dog served in and around Newark. At three places I visited, a quarter of a round, slightly crusty Italian bread was filled with Best brand skinless beef hot dogs and grilled or sautéed peppers and onions, then improbably topped by rounds of fried potatoes. When they are made right, as they are at Tommy's Italian Sausage and Hot Dogs in Elizabeth, they are an irresistible version of meat and potatoes.
My favorite Connecticut places are Top Dog in Cos Cob, which makes a fine grilled natural-casing Sabrett dog with a lovely, surprisingly complex chili topping, and Chez Lenard, a cart that sits in front of a dress shop on Main Street in Ridgefield. There, Chad Cohen uses Hebrew National hot dogs and serves them with unusual toppings. For example, one Mr. Cohen calls Le Hot Dog �picié et Garniture Suisse is made with cheese fondue, horseradish sauce and chopped onions.
For those homesick for deep-fried beef-and-pork hot dogs, Crif Dogs sells them on St. Marks Place in the East Village.
Though the kosher-style all-beef hot dog is ubiquitous in Gotham, many other styles have been imported. Colombian immigrants eat lucky dogs topped with cheese, pineapple, mustard, crumbled potato chips and Thousand Island dressing at Los Chuzos y Algo Mas on Roosevelt Avenue in Jackson Heights, Queens. Enthusiasts for Chicago-style hot dogs can now sate their hunger at Shake Shack in Madison Square Park in Manhattan. It serves a classic Windy City dog, a steamed Vienna all-beef dog topped with diced tomatoes, mustard, onions, lettuce, green peppers, neon relish, cucumber, pickles, sport peppers and celery salt.
Context means a lot when it comes to hot dog eating in New York. A Nathan's hot dog does taste better in the salt air at Coney Island or the location in Oceanside on Long Island. The silly signs about all the tropical drinks and about the health benefits of drinking papaya contribute mightily to the hot dog eating experience at Papaya King. So do the conversations with the cops and the local businesspeople across from St. John's Cemetery in Rego Park, Queens, waiting in line at Dominick's hot dog truck, where Angelina D'Angelo serves a terrific steamed natural-casing Sabrett with sautéed onions. (Her husband, Gary, makes an estimable grilled skinless Sabrett dog with great grilled onions and peppers at another truck, D'Angelo's, about 100 yards south on Woodhaven Boulevard.)
But for hot dogs, there's no place like home plate.
The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council says baseball fans will eat 27.5 million hot dogs at major-league parks this year. Yankees fans have a choice of Hebrew National or Nathan's skinless all-beef franks. The same is offered at Shea Stadium, with the addition of glatt kosher Abeles & Heymann hot dogs, sold only in the food court down the right-field line.
The sauerkraut situation at both stadiums is dire. At Yankee Stadium there is nary a pickled cabbage shard to be found. At Shea I found sauerkraut available in one concession stand, the Nathan's booth halfway down the first-base line on the field box level. Shockingly, the sauerkraut is a dollar extra.
But when you are surrounded by screaming Mets fans at Shea or Cyclones fans at KeySpan Park in Coney Island, and the score is tied, and you bite into one of those less than exemplary franks slathered with mustard, you just might be having the peak hot dog experience of all.
New York Times
May 25, 2005
Locations: Best in Show
By ED LEVINE
OUTSTANDING hot dog places in the New York metropolitan area:
ARTIE'S DELICATESSEN 2290 Broadway (83rd Street); (212) 579-5959.BEN'S BEST 96-40 Queens Boulevard (63rd Drive), Rego Park, Queens; (718) 897-1700.
BROOKLYN DINER USA 212 West 57th Street; (212) 977-2280.
CHEZ LENARD By 454-458 Main Street, Ridgefield, Conn.; (203) 431-6324.
DOMINICK'S Woodhaven Boulevard and 65th Road, Rego Park, Queens. Another truck, D'ANGELO'S, is at Woodhaven Boulevard and 63rd Road.
GRAY'S PAPAYA 2090 Broadway (72nd Street); (212) 799-0243. Other locations: 539 Eighth Avenue (37th Street), (212) 904-1588; 402 Sixth Avenue (Eighth Street), (212) 260-3532.
HALLO BERLIN Stand at 54th Street and Fifth Avenue, (212) 947-9008; restaurant at 626 10th Avenue (44th Street), (212) 977-1944.
KATZ'S DELICATESSEN 205 East Houston Street (Ludlow); (212) 254-2246.
NATHAN'S FAMOUS (Coney Island) 1310 Surf Avenue; (718) 946-2202.
OLD TOWN BAR 45 East 18th Street; (212) 529-6732.
PAPAYA KING 179 East 86th Street, (212) 369-0648; 121 West 125th Street, (212) 665-5732.
SECOND AVENUE DELI 156 Second Avenue (10th Street); (212) 677-0606.
SHAKE SHACK Madison Square Park (Madison Avenue and 23rd Street); (212) 889-6600.
SYD'S 2933 Vauxhall Road, Union, N.J.; (908) 686-2233.
THE PATIO First Avenue and 47th Street; (917) 446-0018.
TOMMY'S ITALIAN SAUSAGE AND HOT DOGS 900 Second Avenue, Elizabeth, N.J.; (908) 351-9831.
TOP DOG 118 River Road Extension, Cos Cob, Conn.; (203) 661-0573.
MacWQ33
06-04-2007, 11:24 PM
Cheese sauce, ketchup, pickled relish, and a tad of buffalo sauce on a nice toasted bun.
Skink
06-04-2007, 11:46 PM
hotdogs are my forte.
hotdogs are better with a little imagination. i like to take them and cut them down the middle to split them into two different parts, then stuff the middle with cheese jalepenos and then put them back together and seal them by wrapping bacon around them. cook them on the grill and you have a bacon/jalapeno/cheese hotdog.
not very healthy, but man is it good. use your imagination with them, just tossing em on the grill and charring them is no good~
I have never done it but my Mom used to stuff them with cheese and wrap with bacon,,,it's been so long,,,I gotta try that again...
katyowns
06-04-2007, 11:49 PM
I like a grilled hot dog with melted cheese and mushrooms, oh it's so good!
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