bubbler makes ozone?

[KickYoAss]

I cleaned my little bubbler out today, and did a dry inhale, just curiosity I suppose. But I noticed a snapping, didn't sound quite like it sounds when burning some mary. But I smell the discinct odor of ozone directly afterwords. I've done it 10 times, so I know I'm not crazy. Can someone else with a bubbler confirm this? I googled it shortly, but didn't find anyone else saying anything about it. It required a little more wind than a normal hit(for me anyways), otherwise, there's no ozone created. Gotta suck that flame into the water.

[affasd]

what the hell ar eyou talking about

[slipknotpsycho]

my thoughts exactly....?

[Not An Addict]

Yeah dude, my burb makes ozones all the time....

[MuddinPede]

Wow.... That makes sense to me, man, I understand. We are saving the fucking world doing this! Smoke! Smoke to save the world guys! Just remember to use a bubbler.


BTW, how do you know what ozone smells like? Not saying you haven't, I'm just curious and I hope it is ozone.

[KickYoAss]

Well, I've almost been struck by lighting, and that makes ozone. I have an ozone generator, that makes ozone. I've shocked the crap out of my sister running around the carpeted house in slippers. Static shock makes ozone. Old tvs when turned out can make a lot of ozone. Lots of crap makes o3, and I suppose this is one of them. I know a flame in a microwave makes plasma, and I believe o3. I really don't know the physics, but I know what I smell.

[MuddinPede]

Then why doesn't someone just make ozone to fix our atmosphere?

[187]

how would pulling air through a pipe do anything at all

[LIP]

I think, and only think i know what your talking about. Probably not though.

[KickYoAss]

Hey, if I have LIP saying he MIGHT think he knows what I'm talking about, then maybe I'm getting somewhere. You don't just suck air, you suck the flame from your lighter through the bubbler. Just a bit faster air flow than in normal hit is required. I taste and smell ozone directly after I stop, and seems like I'm hearing a zapping sound. I guess, somehow, this is making some static electricity within the bubbler. Soooo, whatever. Try it, believe it, or not, it's just weird.

[LIP]

Hey, if I have LIP saying he MIGHT think he knows what I'm talking about, then maybe I'm getting somewhere. You don't just suck air, you suck the flame from your lighter through the bubbler. Just a bit faster air flow than in normal hit is required. I taste and smell ozone directly after I stop, and seems like I'm hearing a zapping sound. I guess, somehow, this is making some static electricity within the bubbler. Soooo, whatever. Try it, believe it, or not, it's just weird.

It is a smell, or more of a change of smell in the air? Almost as though the air has changed [just in that little spot]? Like it;s almost got lighter?

[KickYoAss]

I'm only smelling and tasting it for a second or so, then it's gone. So, it's an odor coming straight from the pipe as far as I've observed. I tried doing this in a very dark room, and looking for static in the bubbler reservoir, but saw nothing. I'm sure there's just some basic physics that I should know, explaining this situation, but, I'm just a dummy. Anyways, I don't want to experiment with it anymore, knowing that excess ozone can be a bad thing for your body.

[typoerror]

ozone is a very unstable, super charged oxygen molecule usually made up of 3 oxygen atoms(O3). fire, water, and hard sucking does not make ozone. it has to be some kind of residue your burning.

[halfassedjediknight]

you know ozone is pretty lethal right?

ps.. "The odor from a lightning strike is from ions produced during the rapid chemical changes, not the ozone itself"

[KickYoAss]

Cleaned with boiling water repeatedly, toothpick, and a q-tip. I know what ozone smells like, and it's being created in VERY small ammounts, somehow. It's a bubbler with water, no weed. Just air, fire, water, glass, and ozone. Don't say it's impossible without a real argument with some facts, or without trying it yourself.

[BUZz UK]

I think your pulling everyones legs...

[Reefer Rogue]

Break some cannabis up and put it in the bubbler. Light the cannabis with a lighter, inhale, then exhale. Good day.

[KickYoAss]

yep, just a complete lie, because I know lies make me cool, you got me.....i'm not 12. if it's not ozone, then, it's ions, like that one guy said about after when lightning strikes. I was always told that smell was ozone, but ions sounds likely, because I've smelled a room with an ion generator, and one with ozone generator, very similar, if not the same odor.

[anomalousirrelivance]

Then why doesn't someone just make ozone to fix our atmosphere?

because it breaks down into o2 which is a much more natural state for the oxygen molecules.

damn, did anyone here graduate high school? i know i didn't yeehaw!

my uncle actually built himself a ton of o3 gens for his jacuzzi.

they use it for everything nowdays, it gets rid of cigarette smoke and inhaling small amounts is supposed to be beneficial (don't do it unless you know what small amounts are, could be 1 part per million or 1000 ppm. it will make you way sick if you get too much, i got a bit too much one time and puked like ive never puked before)

[MuddinPede]

I slept so hard in chemistry class. Our teacher was a good man. We didn't get along at first but we became good buddies. He passed away this year to a heart attack. If I had some green I'd burn it for you man, then you could tell me everything about it.

[EmoRebellion]

Your bubbler is not making fucking ozone.. AFAIK (and google confirms) there are 3 ways to make ozone: UV light, cold plasma, and hot spark.

Ultraviolet light creates O3 by generating a narrow-band UV light that is equivalent to the UV radiation that occurs in the stratosphere of earth. Unless your bubbler has a very specific type of UV light in it, im pretty sure thats not whats happening.

Cold Plasma machines use pure oxygen to produce O3. Correct me if Im wrong, but you probably werent using pure oxygen to clean your bong.

Hot Spark uses a corona discharge tube to convert O2 into ozone. A corona is a process by which a current develops from an electrode with a high potential in a neutral fluid, usually air, by ionizing that fluid so as to create a plasma around the electrode. The ions generated eventually combine to create ozone. Im pretty sure you would notice and mention a ball of plasma emitting from your bowl.

So if its not O3, what is it? You probably just smoke too much weed, asshat. Put the bong down and go outside for once.

[halfassedjediknight]

maybe you taste lighter fluid emissions or something..

..and in that, you are smelling it, since taste and smell is highly linked via the sinus'.

i dunno but if o3 were that easy to produce..i dont know i just dont think it is.

[Xhoshi]

my bubbler smells like eggs...
maybe its just me, but it smells pretty bad -> the very opposite off weed.

[Perp]

Waterfalls create ozone naturally, so it may be possible to create a very small amount of ozone by hitting your bong very rigorously and causing the water to boil and bubble.

[KickYoAss]

Like I've said, don't dismiss it, unless you've tried it. Don't go by what you know, but what you've experienced first-hand. Lip seems to be the only one inclined to, kind-of understanding what I'm talking about. I assume from his own personal experience, and not because of something he's read. So, try it, or, shuddup. Not trying for brownie points with a lie, like some damn kid, just found out something interesting, and everyone wants to be an arse.

[KickYoAss]

Waterfalls create ozone naturally, so it may be possible to create a very small amount of ozone by hitting your bong very rigorously and causing the water to boil and bubble.
ah HA, take that ya bastids :smokin:

[EmoRebellion]

Im not being an arse, im just stating the facts.. Its physically impossible for your bubbler to be creating ozone. I dont give a fuck what your keen nose smells, if it were that easy it would have been discovered by now.

If you even understood how ozone molecules were created (see my post) you wouldnt keep questioning it.

[KickYoAss]

So the waterfall comment, you dismiss it as well? It's not about a discovery, it's not like, OH I FOUND A WAY TO MAKE OZONE! No, I just know what I smell, and you haven't tried it, obviously. You only want to say what you've read, so, we understand you think it's impossible, but my keen fucking nose? Yes, not being an arse, I'm sure. Shove off. "At ground level, ozone may be produced by reactions caused by changes in entropy, e.g. water falling on rocks in a waterfall." So, something happens in the bubble similar to that, is that enough? Google it yourself, no need to be sour, it IS possible that ozone, or negative ions are being created by the bubbler.

[EmoRebellion]

Waterfalls dont create ozone, they just disperse it. In nature oxygen is released from plants and sea plankton during photosynthesis. Oxygen floats upward into the atmosphere and in turn is converted into activated oxygen by ultraviolet radiation. A waterfall moves large amounts of water, and displaces large amounts of molecules. This is why you get a good, clean, or almost euphoric feeling at the beach or near a waterfall.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[EmoRebellion]

Yes, unless you have sea plankton photosynthesizing in your bubbler, and a UV light source near by, I dismiss your waterfall theory as well.

[KickYoAss]

Ozone seems slightly likely in the situation, but negative ions seems highly likely. Both have very simliar, if not the same smell. One or the other is being created. You're just a stubborn mule about it, almost a troll about the subject at this point, but I'm open to anyone else's opinion(s). "The negative ion concentration in most indoor environments is between 100 and 200 negative ions per cubic cm. In extremely healthy and invigorating environments, such as near a large waterfall, the negative ion level is around 1,000,000 per cubic cm." Since the 20th post, I've said it could be negative ions, and not ozone.

[BUZz UK]

Yes, unless you have sea plankton photosynthesizing in your bubbler

LMFAO

[BUZz UK]

Also, there's a lot of negative ions when it rains. I always feel charged when it's been raining. So i guess you never know.

But it isn't ozone, lol. The reactions required for that are a little to complicated to be completed in a bubbler, from what i understand...

[josh_nvrrt]

crazy ill try with my bubbler haha

[RyanTheCaveman]

What's ozone?

[The Supervisor]

Like I've said, don't dismiss it, unless you've tried it. Don't go by what you know, but what you've experienced first-hand. Lip seems to be the only one inclined to, kind-of understanding what I'm talking about. I assume from his own personal experience, and not because of something he's read. So, try it, or, shuddup. Not trying for brownie points with a lie, like some damn kid, just found out something interesting, and everyone wants to be an arse.


Don't go by what you know? Are you serious? Isn't experience knowledge? Emo presented how O3 is produced, scientific and indisputable, and you're simply ignoring it because you so desperately want to be correct and not sound like a half-wit. He's not being the arse in this situation, you are.

[BBoyShotty]

hmm from waht i read frmo KYA's post about his experience, i think ive experienced it too, although i never thought it was anything like negative ions or ozone.

my friend was cleaning her pipe, and she soaked it in a bit of alc, and then rinsed with water, and afterwards when we smoked, it kept making an almost popping sound, which sounds like what KYA is experiencing. I just assumed that it was still wet on the inside or something, and taht the heat frmo the lighter is just evaporating the liquid

[KickYoAss]

ok, enough is enough. From what we know, it IS possible that my bubbler is making negative ions. I believe 100% that it's making it, but anyone else who hasn't actually tried it shouldn't just rule it out. I rule out ozone, with the indisputable facts from emo, and appreciate his pointing out my wrongs. BUT, let's just say, it IS possible that negative ions are being produced, not ozone, or try the "experiment" yourself, and leave it at that. And I'm just an arse who found something, some what interesting :) Peace

[Jeff Spicoli]

negative ions, bhahahaha

[deftdrummer]

ozone is the smell after a good rain the next day.

[Reefer Rogue]

what a load of wish wash

[halfassedjediknight]

ozone is the smell after a good rain the next day.

dude the smell is the oil in the road thats been relifted to the surface.

hahaha.

ps thats why after a long dry spell, if it rains the roads are extra slick.

[Molely]

just a little bit i was thinking about, if ur tokeing that hard lots of oxygen is running past that flame so its probly getting quite hot it could be possible that a really hot flame is breaking down extra o2 or h2o which might form o3 or ions but i cant see it happening because i get things hot in chemistry alot and nothing like that happens plus it takes sum a pretty special enviroment for this chemical to form (o3). could be another chemical reacting in sum way but i dont really no, i wish i had a glass bubbler to try it but i no that by bong doesnt do it. probly ions maby from a charge building somewhere and imparting it on passing atoms like it a ion maker found in some air purifyers.

[Bob the Awesome]

Yea, I highly doubt a simple bubbler can somehow turn O2 into O3... seems a bit of a stretch.

[anomalousirrelivance]

yeah dude i've done that with my bubbler. when you hit it right after dumping the water out with no bowl loaded, and it pops and crackles. thats because you have wet pieces of ash and resin which you are heating to the point of combustion and they contain water so the water expands rapidly and can pop and crack.


there is no possible way that your bubbler is making any significant amount of ozone. maybe like 3ppm or something just because there are always catalyzing environments at the molecular level. but not enough to even smell or measure.

you are really probably smelling or tasting lighter fumes or wet ash burning. smell is not an accurate sense. PERIOD


some days my sense of smell will change and things will smell like other things. fucking deal with it.


nobody is going to believe that your monkey typed hamlet.:D

[connector_robot]

Just think that this whole time your guys were arguing, you could have been toking. Jeez.

[EmoRebellion]

Im a great multi-tasker... I was toking and arguing.