Cold Water Extraction: Ghetto Style

[Perp]

I'm sure everyone has heard of Bubblebags and how to make hash with them using cold water extraction (CWE). The problem is that they are quite pricey and maybe you don't try CWE because of it. But it is IMO one of the better methods of making hash because it's:
a) cheap
b) safe
c) good yield

Here is a cheap way to do it, with good results. All you need are:
1) two buckets; at least one should be 5 gal
2) bag of ice
3) filter; to strain plant material (must be big enough to let the trichomes pass)
4) coffee filters
5) blender; or some way to agitate the material
5) trim; dried

You will also see a siphon hose. Since the most of the trichomes drop to the bottom I siphon off most of the water from the bucket to save time. You do not need to do this but you will quickly find your coffee filters getting clogged from the trichs if you filter the whole bucket.

[Perp]

So, as you can see in the above pics, fill one bucket with water, ice and the trim. Use the blender to agitate for about 2-3 mins. Then take a break for 10 or so minutes, maybe smoke one or hit a bowl. That's what I do, usually.

Repeat the agitation step a three or four times. Then, using the silkscreen (and a colander for shape), pour the whole mixture into the other bucket. Squeeze all the water out of the plant material and discard it.

[Perp]

You now have a bucket of greenish coloured water. This is where I siphon off about 3/4 of the water. Be sure to let it sit a while to give the trichomes time to sink to the bottom of the bucket.

[Perp]

Sorry forgot pics for these steps.

When you are near the bottom stop the siphon. It's time to use the coffee filters to capture the hash. Cut the top off of a 2L plastic pop bottle. Take the cap off and turn it upside down and place the coffee filter inside. Now carefully pour the remaining water through the filter. This may take some time depending on how much water you have left

Once your water is filtered you should have a number of coffee filters containing the wet hash.

Use a blade to carefully scrape the hash onto a plate for drying. At this point you can leave it to dry naturally, or what I do is squeeze the water out with my fingers. Once it is dry then it is ready to smoke.

Usually get 2-3 g per oz of trim, takes about 2 hours from start to finish.

Enjoy!

[Don Don]

Last picture was kinda blurry but it still looks like s ome killer shit. Toke up!:thumbsup:

[pspmachine]

Hi, I am thinking of using this method, however when you say 'trim' do you mean all of the leaves from the plant? I have a bin liner full of leaves but they are wet at the minute.

Regards

[crudemood]

yeah you get the hang of it after a while
i had made hash using the ice water method and agitation but somebody ( my grandma snoooping in my room) thought it of mud maybe..?! and threw it out, it was a good 3 grams of it, or more.. i didnt even get to touch it yet! stupid snooping parents.
well looking on the brightside.. at least they didnt touch my green..

[pspmachine]

Anyone?

[go toke up]

i will be using your method when i get all of my plants trimmings. yay!

[Perp]

Anyone?

Yes, by "trim" I mean all the leaf you get after manicuring. I use everything; bud leaves, fan leaves, stems. It all goes into the bucket.

[pspmachine]

Thats the thing, I think i'm only getting fan leaves and stems, would this produce any hash at all?

Thanks

[Perp]

Thats the thing, I think i'm only getting fan leaves and stems, would this produce any hash at all?

Thanks

Well, it depends on the amount of trichomes on the material. Generally the smaller leaves that grow out of the bud will have the most. You don't have any leaves growing out of the buds? Fan leaves may have some on the stem and base of the leaf. I've seen some very crystally fan leaves. The more crystals (trichomes), the more hash you're gonna get.

[surreys princess]

you have been stickied...

thanks for the contribution...

[norkali]

Where did you get your silkscreen? No art supply places in my area had any....

[Perp]

Well, I got it from a friend who worked as a screen printer. I admit that item may be hard to come by for some people. I'm sure you could order some online. Alternatively, you could use cheesecloth, or a very fine sieve. That screen is to filter out the leaf material while allowing the trichomes to pass, so it doesn't have to be too fine. Just fine enough to keep the small bits of leaf out of your final product.

PS I just ran out of what I got out of that run, so it lasted about a week for me. And I get high a lot, each day, all day. Pretty potent stuff. Best smoked in a pipe or bowl.

[Perp]

Couldn't you use bud itself or is that too much of a pain?

For this method I'm just using the shake and trim that would normally not be smoked in joints or bowls. It's just a cheap and easy way to get a little bit extra out of a grow.

[TheGreenFog]

That's a great method. I was just sorting thru a bunch of pictures I have of this method. I was going to post a thread, but seems like you got stickied, so maybe I'll just add them onto your thread if that's cool. :)

IMO, using the large fan leaves is detrimental to the quality of your hash. If you use just the small leaves that are attached to the bud, you should get a more pure hash with less green material. When I post my pics, you will see the difference. One has greener water, and the other is more yellowish...less green. I suggest only using leaves with VISIBLE trichomes. :)

The way I learned it was the GUMBY HASH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCtKE2Ghk) method. Here is a link to an awesome vid that describes it all. A little different, but basically the same. :) Good thread, Perp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCtKE2Ghk

Be cool. :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[Dr.Chiefer]

Where did you get your silkscreen? No art supply places in my area had any....

You can try using stretched out panty hose i think its the same thing.

[Perp]

Green Fog - great video, especially the yields. It's good advice to leave your buckets to sit for a few hours. I tend to be a little impatient and lose yield in the process. Also cutting out the coffee filters, I'll have to try it.

Dr. Chiefer - nice suggestion

[FreeVenice]

Hey Perp, any thoughts on using dry ice. Besides the fact that it would look great smoking up the place. Would it help to be even colder. . .

and what about a potato smasker instead of the cake mixer? Thanks alot for the thread. . .

[Juggalo k00kie]

Hey Perp, any thoughts on using dry ice. Besides the fact that it would look great smoking up the place. Would it help to be even colder. . .

man fuck that, pour some liquid nitrogen in that bitch, LOL just kidding

[CrIpInMiKe]

koo thanks imma try it out

[casper1]

Another great way is to take the trim and clippings and rub it by a silk screen lightly alowing only the yellow resin to fall through. thenk scoop all of it up and put it in a plastic wrap Really tight (suggest the wrapper of a cig pack) then take the tightly wraped resin and tightly fold a damp piece of paper around it. put in the oven for 15 min on 400 then put imediatly into fridge. wait one day and unwrap and u have urself a nice wad of hash!

[Chongzbongz]

Im gonna try this method right now.
I just wrote it down, Thanks perp.
Ive got several pounds of leaf and bud shake
Ill keep you posted on how it works out and maybe send you some
I live in alberta what about you?

[Perp]

Im gonna try this method right now.
I just wrote it down, Thanks perp.
Ive got several pounds of leaf and bud shake
Ill keep you posted on how it works out and maybe send you some
I live in alberta what about you?
I'm in Ontario. You should get a great yield from several pounds of trim. Take some pics and show us your results!

[Chongzbongz]

Thanks man.
I cant get anything to collect on the coffee filter im using a 1 gallon jug.
And its reallllly brown water so i should be getting tons.
Do you know why this is?

[Perp]

Thanks man.
I cant get anything to collect on the coffee filter im using a 1 gallon jug.
And its reallllly brown water so i should be getting tons.
Do you know why this is?

Nothing at all? Hmmm, perhaps your trim does not have too much trichomes on it? Or maybe your 1 gallon jug is just not enough volume. Try doing several washes of trim in the same 1 gallon of water.

Don't forget to keep it cold with added ice. If you're siphoning make sure you let it sit for an hour at least to let the trichs sink to the bottom. If you don't you will be siphoning off all the goodness.

[CheeseOnToast]

let it sit for 6-12 hours, then siphon off the top layer ( youll see it starting to get darker ).
then pour it through several times, and post back here :)

[Chongzbongz]

Okay. Thanks guys.
I just sorta mixed both the ghetto style
and gumby hash method.
I let it sit from last night at @ 12.
Until this morning at 12.
I siphoned off 3/4 of the water.
Then poured the remaining water and trichs
into a 1.5L glass jar. I let everything fall to the bottom.
Then siphoned off as much water as i possible could.
I poured the mixture onto doubled up wax paper and it is now
sitting on my dining room table drying. I took a spoon and put it into smaller piles.
hoping to dry it faster. I have a ceiling fan above it and an oscillating fan about 4 ft. away from it. Im thinking it should only be 2-3 more hours to dry it.
Would putting it in the freezer help?? Answer back soon Thanks.

[Chongzbongz]

Yo Perp,
I finished my batch.
Heres the end results.
I got 8 g;s from 4 oz
I've already started to smoke it.
Thanks for the help man.
:smokin:

[Perp]

Whoa, nice chunk! Tastes pretty sweet, Ill bet.

[Chongzbongz]

Yea i had two 4 gram balls but ive smoked just about all of it.
It tastes alright.

[psteve]

I pulled a batch from the x-tractor 1000 last week. I put in 150 grams of trim, and got back 19.5 grams of beautiful blonde bubbling hash. About the size of a golf ball.

[Chongzbongz]

Shweet.
That things expensive though.
I used a qp of some leaf and bud shake.
More leaf than bud. But i got 8 grams of really light green hash.
Really smooth smoke. And it was all thanks to this method.
and well the gumby hash method for the last part.


perp,
I siphoned off 3/4 of the water that was left.
Put it into the jar. You think anything will come out of it??

[Perp]

Shweet.
erp,
I siphoned off 3/4 of the water that was left.
Put it into the jar. You think anything will come out of it??
Depending on how long you let it sit undisturbed, the water you siphon off will not have much in it.

[chronicbrat]

:rasta:My fiance and I made our own set of bubble bags and used silk screen mesh for the bottom different counts (our secret:D) for each bag which is exactly what they use, and cordera for the outside. So instead of paying like $300 we made our own and spent $25 on materials to make a 4 bag / 5 gallon pale system which works awesome! We sold a few sets also ... sewing machines are great LOL! :thumbsup: :smokin:

[Perp]

:rasta:My fiance and I made our own set of bubble bags and used silk screen mesh for the bottom different counts (our secret:D) for each bag which is exactly what they use, and cordera for the outside. So instead of paying like $300 we made our own and spent $25 on materials to make a 4 bag / 5 gallon pale system which works awesome! We sold a few sets also ... sewing machines are great LOL! :thumbsup: :smokin:
Nice idea. How much do you charge and will you mail some out? I may be interested.

[Chongzbongz]

:rasta:My fiance and I made our own set of bubble bags and used silk screen mesh for the bottom different counts (our secret:D) for each bag which is exactly what they use, and cordera for the outside. So instead of paying like $300 we made our own and spent $25 on materials to make a 4 bag / 5 gallon pale system which works awesome! We sold a few sets also ... sewing machines are great LOL! :thumbsup: :smokin:

Thats actually a damn good idea.
It saves you lots of money.
But are the results as good as they could be?
Search around theres alot of ways to make it much better.
:rastasmoke:

[LetsSeeYa]

Chongzbbongzhave you made any yet? I am trying as i type. I will post a picture when in finished. LATER...:D

[sidders2]

Evening all!

Am I right in thinking that, with the gumby method the trims do not need to be dried first? I know that with the gumby method trim gets soaked in water, but wondered whether drying the trims first affected trich removal??

Cheers folks :stoned:


:thumbsup:Great site. Done a lot of reading this past week!:thumbsup:

[HYDRO.P]

i got a question, i got lots of trim and small buds drying but some of it got a little mold on it does anyone know if it would still be safe to make hash out of it

[west coast style]

Thanks for the info, but there has to be a more ghetto way to do it. This isn't THAT ghetto.

[psteve]

i got a question, i got lots of trim and small buds drying but some of it got a little mold on it does anyone know if it would still be safe to make hash out of it
No.

[ju99al0b0mb3r]

That's a great method. I was just sorting thru a bunch of pictures I have of this method. I was going to post a thread, but seems like you got stickied, so maybe I'll just add them onto your thread if that's cool. :)

IMO, using the large fan leaves is detrimental to the quality of your hash. If you use just the small leaves that are attached to the bud, you should get a more pure hash with less green material. When I post my pics, you will see the difference. One has greener water, and the other is more yellowish...less green. I suggest only using leaves with VISIBLE trichomes. :)

The way I learned it was the GUMBY HASH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCtKE2Ghk) method. Here is a link to an awesome vid that describes it all. A little different, but basically the same. :) Good thread, Perp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCtKE2Ghk

Be cool. :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:

damnnnn

about how much is that worth?

[Chongzbongz]

Chongzbbongzhave you made any yet? I am trying as i type. I will post a picture when in finished. LATER...:D

The answer to that is yes. I have made some since then..
I bought the kootenay bubble refinery system. And it works wonders. I recently picked up 55 more lbs of bud.
And im swimming in the shit. In total since i bought it ive probably made about 3/4 lb of bubble hash. I got a 35 gallon kit. and each time i do it i use anywheres from 5 to 7 pounds. Mind you the weed i got was found in a dumpster, along with trim, however there was a signifigant amount of bud over the trim.. I huffed that shit in my dads truck and away we went.. after it all dried out. some of which was cured, and sold a couple lbs, im doin fckin excellent. i dont have to work at the moment. we've made almost 5k from it so far. I'll add some pictures of everything when i get my camera in the next week or so. Peace all:jointsmile::cool:

[psteve]

I know that with the gumby method trim gets soaked in water, but wondered whether drying the trims first affected trich removal??

Cheers folks :stoned:

In my experience, it is most efficient to use dry, cured trim.
Although some very fine hash can be made from fresh trim, it takes longer and you get less.
Also, NEVER make hash while the chlorophyll is breaking down. Either do it in the first 72 hours after harvesting, or wait until it's fully cured.

[Enemy of Real1ty]

The answer to that is yes. I have made some since then..
I bought the kootenay bubble refinery system. And it works wonders. I recently picked up 55 more lbs of bud.
And im swimming in the shit. In total since i bought it ive probably made about 3/4 lb of bubble hash. I got a 35 gallon kit. and each time i do it i use anywheres from 5 to 7 pounds. Mind you the weed i got was found in a dumpster, along with trim, however there was a signifigant amount of bud over the trim.. I huffed that shit in my dads truck and away we went.. after it all dried out. some of which was cured, and sold a couple lbs, im doin fckin excellent. i dont have to work at the moment. we've made almost 5k from it so far. I'll add some pictures of everything when i get my camera in the next week or so. Peace all



Nice, been looking for a cheap easy way to do this, and you found 55lbs of trim and bud in a dumpster? Damn man some people have all the luck, smoke one for me, lol. :jointsmile:

[Chongzbongz]

Nice, been looking for a cheap easy way to do this, and you found 55lbs of trim and bud in a dumpster? Damn man some people have all the luck, smoke one for me, lol. :jointsmile:

Yea. LOL.
And they think the war on drugs is working.
The people that are puttin theyre trim and buds in there,
have got to be running a million dollar grow op.
Im thinkin of startin an online order form for cheap bubble hash now..
My dad and i went there last night after we got back from hunting and both dumpsters were heaped.
Couldnt find any trim/buds this time.. too much damn soil. and fertilizer bags and old 1000W bulbs. we always hop right in and dig around and underneath everything. it sounds gross but its well worth gettin your hands dirty.
If that dumpster keeps gettin filled the way it has been then hopefully i wont have to spend anymore cash outta my pocket on weed. Unless i want some medicinal weed or afgani hash from my hippie neighbour who has a medicinal pot permit through health canada and The B.C. Pot Club, The stuff through health canada is horrible. but the pot club has some killer chron from time to time. but pricy as f*ck. Ill smoke a bowl of bubble for everyone. :jointsmile:

[Chongzbongz]

110 grams of pure bubble hash.:D:stoned::stoned::stoned:

[Chongzbongz]

Wow. That was still a bit wet
When it finally completely dried it was 70 grams.
And a bit smaller...
Happy smoking

[dejayou30]

Damn that looks really pure! I can't wait till my first harvest so I can try making some hash!

[TheDefiler]

Did anyone else notice how young this kid looks. Not that I care its just different to see....lol.

[bonapartis]

Okay. Thanks guys.
I just sorta mixed both the ghetto style
and gumby hash method.
I let it sit from last night at @ 12.
Until this morning at 12.
I siphoned off 3/4 of the water.
Then poured the remaining water and trichs
into a 1.5L glass jar. I let everything fall to the bottom.
Then siphoned off as much water as i possible could.
I poured the mixture onto doubled up wax paper and it is now
sitting on my dining room table drying. I took a spoon and put it into smaller piles.
hoping to dry it faster. I have a ceiling fan above it and an oscillating fan about 4 ft. away from it. Im thinking it should only be 2-3 more hours to dry it.
Would putting it in the freezer help?? Answer back soon Thanks.

What sort of material did you use to strain out the plant material initially? Silk screen? Cheese cloth? Yo mama's silk stalkings pulled out pretty tight so that no trichs get caught in them? Metal mesh like in the gumby video? I'd really like to know from anyone with experience what the best way to go is, preferably not the silk screen because those are a bitch to find.

I'm really glad you have all had such amazing success making hash with almost not money investment, and am eager to make my big ass pile of shake into something worth looking at as soon as possible.

Does anyone else with experience in this process have any other advice?

As far as I understand it -
Add trim to very cold water with ice, agitate
screen out the plant material so you have only the trich water, through whatever means
Transfer water to another, clean bucket (?)
Allow water to sit 6 - 12 hours so trichs can settle to bottom.
Siphon off water as much as reasonable without distrubing trichs
Pour into a taller, narrower container, allow to sit for hours, continue siphoning until as much water as possible is removed.
Pour what remains in the jar onto doubled up wax paper and dry by whatever means necessary, and then consume heady coldwater hash.
Right?

Also, I think I read once that throwing the trim into the freezer for a few hours beforehand helps the process, and ALSO that you can freeze the trim after the water extraction process and do it again to get additional hash from the material. Granted, this was associated with some 400 dollar bag system, but its all the same principle.

[Hennessy1414]

That's a great method. I was just sorting thru a bunch of pictures I have of this method. I was going to post a thread, but seems like you got stickied, so maybe I'll just add them onto your thread if that's cool. :)

IMO, using the large fan leaves is detrimental to the quality of your hash. If you use just the small leaves that are attached to the bud, you should get a more pure hash with less green material. When I post my pics, you will see the difference. One has greener water, and the other is more yellowish...less green. I suggest only using leaves with VISIBLE trichomes. :)

The way I learned it was the GUMBY HASH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCtKE2Ghk) method. Here is a link to an awesome vid that describes it all. A little different, but basically the same. :) Good thread, Perp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCtKE2Ghk

Be cool. :D


The Fog :rastasmoke:
couldn't you get considerably more hash if you took all the trim liquid from the 5 gallon and spread it up into a bunch of smaller jars and just wait till their all almost evaporated and pour it all out on wax paper. wait till all moisture has evaporate and get much more hash? i kno it would take longer but that brow liquid he poured out from the 5 gallon looked pretty gold

[ddxsinxcosxdx]

Hey Perp, any thoughts on using dry ice. Besides the fact that it would look great smoking up the place. Would it help to be even colder. . .

and what about a potato smasker instead of the cake mixer? Thanks alot for the thread. . .

Dry ice will not get water as cold as water based ice will. In fact Dry ice and water (in a pop bottle) makes a pretty cool explosion. Just don't hold the bottle while you try it and stand back a few feet.

Way to get the water to be colder would be to use salt.

Anyone know what salt would do to the resulting hash? Would it be horrible to smoke? Would the colder water make a difference?