View Full Version : Dizzys 1st go at grow. CFL/Cab W/ Bagseed
Dizzy1
05-13-2007, 08:46 AM
So half of my stepchild bagseed beans popped today after 3 days of making me wonder, :) 4 beans taking flight, 1 bean starting to show and 3 lazy ones.
Seed "room" was just something whipped up to force me into creating the cab and getting the ball rolling. I have 18 more seeds and time to kill if something goes to pot.. err, to shit.. Going to pot wouldn't be all that bad. ;)
Set-up for the seedling was a peat pellet dome with 8 seeds loaded up. (2) 13 watt CFL at 2700 CS were there mostly for heat and a little light. Temp averaged 70-80 F the entire time. I checked on the seeds each evening and there was nothing up until tonight and it seems the ball is indeed rolling.
The cab work you see here was built this far in the evening. The previous cab(not shown and deconstructed) showed the ability of my polish crafting ways and it was just too booty to keep patching together, so I started from scratch and so far it's going along smoothly... I just better hurry! lol
So enjoy and I will post as things move along.
Dizzy1
05-15-2007, 08:37 AM
Couple of days later, all 8 seeds have popped for the most part. Changed out one of the 13 watters for a 23 watt @ 6500K and lowered the tray about 4" from the lights. Keeping a close eye on the temps, might need to open a hole in that PC case to vent.
Also bought some soil today, I've been nervous about cooking the roots when I transplant so I bought some Black Gold-All Purpose potting soil when the time arises to move up.
Any advise or comments on that?
While I'm asking, and if someone is looking, should I just plunk the whole pete pack plant combo in the new pots when it's time, or take the pete off... please say I can keep it on and just cut off the surrounding netting.
Other than this, the cab is coming along slowly, got the door mounted, needs to be shimmed and a rubber seal installed. Oh! made a custom hood out of a 6" (maybe 4") piece of ducting that I split down the middle and used some metal strap to shape into an open C. Mounted some hardware and test hung it, it works. I'll post that pick after I finish up a few more things and roll on some white.
Any guesses as to Sativa or Indica yet? Not sure if you can tell.
Thanks for lookin!
Last pick was one I missed from the 1st post, nothing "new" yet in it.
good ol daze
05-15-2007, 09:06 PM
Dizzy, can you get your lights any closer to your plants? With CFL's you shouldn't have to worry about burning unless they're actually touching the leaves. Your stems look healthy, but way stretched.
Dizzy1
05-15-2007, 11:50 PM
Oh I can for sure move them closer, I just wasen't sure how close that young of a plant should get. I knew the older plants could be, what, 3-4" away, I was just erring on the side of caution.
I thought they were stretching alot.
And thank you for the constructive comments, they'll always be appreciated.
good ol daze
05-15-2007, 11:56 PM
no problem. i don't want to mislead you, though. make sure you have a fan on the plants or toward the lights to help cool things down if the lights are that close...and keep monitoring your temperatures between whatever space there is between the bulb and plant. strive for 72 - 82 F.
R-L-B BinGall Rec.
05-16-2007, 03:37 AM
just a hint watch out, taking fotos with date time and too much background can place your growthplace for outsiders:)
keep up the good work.
Dizzy1
05-16-2007, 08:13 AM
Yea, I changed over the other bulb to a matching 6500K, raised them up, little more water and now I'm really keeping an eye on the temp... Hovering at 82 and that's at night, I have a perfect fan/filter I can kinda wedge in the case to combat this.
It's amazing how quickly these plants react to changes, like a matter of hours and they've already turned towards that one 6500K light, you'll see in the pic. I knew right there I had to change the other light over.
Still moving along on the cab, got a quick layer of "killz" flat white on a good chunk of the inside, ran out of paint... figures. Once it's coated I'll cut out the vents and mount some power points, lights, etc.
Wondering when a good point to transplant is? I know, read and read... but these things are getting fairly tall, there is still room to grow in the temp housing, but those pete pots will only last for so long. Speaking of transplanting, I made the mistake of wandering the gardening isle... never thought I would spend an hour doing that looking for goodies... always go with a list!! which I need to make to be sure I get the right stuff.
They'll be making a stop over in some red party cups to get used to real soil/nutes before going into a perm home once I find some freakin square pots large enough... who'd ah think those were so in demand.. it's only summer. ;)
And RLB, I know what your talking about and I try to make sure there isn't anything truely incriminating in the pics, but I will take no more chances and clean up the non-needed background items. Thanks and good call.
Last pic is one of the sewer vent I just noticed. It's within reach if I wanted to try and tie into it... but it's on an 1-1/2" and I'm not sure that would work. Back pressure from the fan and what not, might check it out and test it. That would save me building a scrubber... not that building a scrubber is a big deal.
On to the pics!
Dizzy1
05-16-2007, 08:20 AM
Here are more pics after the light change.
Dizzy1
05-17-2007, 05:49 PM
This is a post from another section.
lol
All I can do is laugh, I already got po'd off last night.
I greatly appreciate the replies, they helped tremendously, or rather they would have if I asked the question a few days earlier and recieved the same replies. As it is I got home last night and lifted up my little pete pots of love and lo and behold... a fricking root nightmare unfolded. I can't believe I didn't look under them before, chalk that up no experience. Anyway, roots, lots of roots, and lots of long roots. If the main root didn't wad up between the peat and the netting, it grew through it... and some grew into their neighbors netting. So I spent 2 hours doing my best surgical work (after 4-5 hours of sleep all week since I'm up late setting up the nursery). In the end 2 of the plants had the main root severed right at the base of the "pot", I didn't cut it, but all the handling finally took it's toll. The other six ended up having some chunk of the webbing still attached to the main root, the 1st transplant is when 1 of the roots went, so I was too scared of it happening again and just did the best I could without damage.
All 8 are now in their second home and as of this mornings check, seem to still be pointing skywards, which is good. I don't have any pics as it was 2am when I finished the potting and resetting up the PC case they're in to maximize space and changed out 2 lights for more lumens. Also added a 2" ABS 90 degree elbow out the back with a small fan attached to expell the heat. Still getting a bit too warm so tonight I will make an intake.
Didn't add any rooting hormones, just light watering to the new soil. Stinky hadn't replied yet and the root mess I encountered meant I had to act, here's hoping for the best.
I did find a mogul socket I plan to use in the main cabinet, now I just need to find one of those 125 watt CFL's I've seen so many people use. I want to find one locally. I didn't get the ballast, so I assume that rules out the use of a 100-175 watt MH/HPS. I plan to read if I need a ballast on a bulb that small, assuming I will though.
Things I've learned thus far.
Pete Pots are awsome in terms of a fairly sure fire way to get the ball rolling. Just check the bottom every day after the seeds sprouts and transplant as soon as you see the root! Otherwise you.. well you now know what'll happen.
Get the lights closer.. no closer.. CLOSER DANGIT! (CFLs)
Only use the 6500K lights (or close), don't bother mixing the lights, they only like the 6500K at this stage.
If using a PC case to start it, gut it completely. You don't need the 5-1/4" drive cage, drill out the rivets and GUT it, everything else but the frame and the skin get in the way. Make all the "final adjustments" up front so you don't have to do it on the fly. Rig up a small active exhaust and have a remote temp probe.
Have the final grow area completed before you germ, splitting time between the two means a serious decrease in sleep time. Sprouting happens before you know it and needs your attention now, not when you can make time. Growth waits for no person!
And I'm freakin beat. It's just like bringing a new baby home and sleepless night that follow. But I'm still a proud poppa! Just a seriously tired and frizzled one. lol
r00tdoctor
05-17-2007, 11:18 PM
Nice start hope you keep us all updated. We all learn from are growing mistakes its all part of the process of growing. You seem dedicated and I see a sea of greeness in your future.
Dizzy1
05-18-2007, 08:11 AM
Thanks Root, I'm enjoying the labor so far... kinda sadistic, I'm not taking care of myself, but I'm bird dogging the lil ones. Like a hen...
peeks in cab, that he's been busy on, and checks how they're doing
I finished painting the inside of the cab.
Finished the home made hood. I like to call it the HMH.
Mounted (4) 24 watt GE Daylight, 6500k
And (1) 42 watt Lights of America - Big Funky Bulb. BFB if you will.
Ran it on some string and lowered it on the plants. Looks pretty good IMHO.
And damned if I don't have the camera to share.
Soon!
Dizzy1
05-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Well crap. I think DFYS will be stopping by. (department of youth services)
I stopped by the house at lunch after I picked up some more tools. I lifted the hood and was pretty shocked. I guess I didn't take into account how much more heat would be retained with the hood, and the addition of the 42 watt BFB, half of the plants are in rough shape with damage to the top leafs and 2 of those are pretty bad... I knew I would have to split up this op with 4 in the cab (if they were females) and the rest I would set up at my buddies house, but I didn't want to do it like this. Of course it happened to the 4 healthiest, I.E. tallest and "bushiest" ones. dangit.
But, it happens, right? I pulled the lights up a couple 3-4" inches higher, watered and went back to work. I think they'll make it, but... who knows.
Pics later.
Main tool I picked up was a moisture meter, which told me half of the pots were dry dry dry. I didn't want to overwater after the transplant and I think that didn't help with the burns.
Lessons lessons lessons!
Dizzy1
05-19-2007, 09:34 AM
Things look a little better than before, still not pretty, but ok...ish
Still not 100% finished with the cab.
The reflector/lights look kinda mean, I like the close up side picture of the lights over the plants.
I'm kinda ripped and it looks like something out of a Alien invasion movie with the plants cowering in fear (and rightfully so) of the craft. :rasta:
Dizzy1
05-19-2007, 09:44 AM
And things look "better" than earlier.:(
Dizzy1
05-19-2007, 09:50 AM
Added a 2" exhaust.
Runs from that inside 90, to an outside 90 then down a 6' or so 2" shop vac hose, then to a PC fan, I believe it's an 80mm and it moves a decent amount of air, cab has been sealed for an hour and the temp is 76.7F., 24.5C.
I'll still be adding an Intake and more than likely I'll also enlarge the exhaust port. Well see where I decide to route the end and the sound.
Don't mind the safetly blanket, it's sole purpose is to take that last little bit of light glow away when the room is dark.
Wow, Dizz. I admire your set-up...I really do. I hope to be sharing my own progress with you all soon. I am curious as to what you plan on doing if the plants outgrow the box? It is unfortunate what happened to your plants but you really seem to have the right touch...the green touch. :)
Good luck & keep us updated!
Dizzy1
05-20-2007, 08:21 AM
Thanks Ganj. :jointsmile:
I put a decent chunk of time into it all and I'm starting to be able to enjoy it a little more as the projects die down. Nice to be able to fire one up before midnight. I don't do that fuzzy construction, I enjoy my finger tips too much... so to speak.
A couple are starting develope noticable second limbs. Can't wait until the messed up leaves dissapear, I didn't even feel like a pic. Couple days and I will.
As to the growth, I figure it like this.
I started with 8 bagseed. Decent smoke, but god damn there was a lot of seeds! I think in the 2 grams I bummed, the ratio was 50/50 seed and weed.
Ok, so I'm :rastasmoke: and you got a story, my bad.
So I really figured this...
That of the 8 planted I would guess at least 2-3 would be boys. I think I could try for 3 in this cab with LSTing. My buddy would take the left overs and give it a go with already established females then. I think he could take a 200 watt HID, we'd figure something out. I also think I'll put these into flowering in another week, maye 2. They're already a week and some change old, would also help keep them smaller.
Thanks again. :thumbsup:
Dizzy1
05-22-2007, 06:30 AM
Some updated pics and the addition of a little suprise. :)
Plants seem to have recovered from the burning, one seems unsure though.
Soil is very dry in these pics, the fan and CFLs rape the soil of moisture very quickly. After the photo shoot I added an inch of MG moisture control soil to the top and watered heavily. I figure the minute addition of nutes shouldn't hurt much, it was an inch or less addition to the cups, so very minimal.
The last pic was a freebie I picked up a few weeks ago. I wasn't sure it was operable and I thought the bulb was burnt out... I was blindedly wrong. :stoned: In fact I'm still blind... It's a 150 watt HPS bulb with matching fixture. Since I know it works I will try to fab up a sheetmetal enclose so I don't have to install this heavy duty outside security enclosure in my cabinet.
Also not shown in the addition of a 1.5" passive intake mounting on the front portion of the floor and leading to the side of the box where the exhaust is. The pipe runs about 3' into the box and I configured a temp light trap with 3 90 degree elbow outside the cab, just to keep it dark while the silicone seals set up and then I can configure it how I want it.
I might try the HPS for the evening to see how the cab handles the temp and see if I need to work on more intake or exhaust.
Mr.Blue
05-22-2007, 03:22 PM
wow your a mad handy man eh;) great job with everything
Dizzy1
05-22-2007, 03:54 PM
I don't know how handy I am, but I sure can rig some sh*t. ;)
And thanks!
Dizzy1
05-23-2007, 07:10 AM
oops
Dizzy1
05-23-2007, 07:19 AM
Updates
r00tdoctor
05-23-2007, 07:45 AM
There lookin alot better then before nice ta see them still alive bro.
r00tdoctor
05-23-2007, 07:50 AM
damn i posted a photo in your section on accedent im high, but the plants are looking good keep the updates up!
Dizzy1
05-23-2007, 03:29 PM
lol, no worries and thanks!
good ol daze
05-23-2007, 06:14 PM
Those suckers have grown a lot since I last checked in...nice recovery...stay the course, man!
Dizzy1
05-23-2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks Daze!
I don't know what strain they are, but they sure are fiesty, eh?
I needed a robusto strain to try out my green thumb and these are working out pretty good so far. No complaints!
Dizzy1
05-24-2007, 03:53 PM
Did another transplant last night. Plants were root bound like a mo fo!
I'm going to need to weed out half of them asap, my cab space got a teeeensy bit smaller. ;) Checked on them all this morning and.. wow... they all have taken to the bigger pots with some vigor!
And they're starting to stink, smell good, but still stink. This weekend will be filter making time.
I'll update pics tonight.
Dizzy1
05-24-2007, 09:09 PM
From this afternoon.
Scienceburnmovie
05-25-2007, 12:06 AM
Hey,
I have a setup Im thinking of building almost identical to your pc case one, I have 2x13w CFLs and I was wondering how it worked out for you? Also a general question, how much smell do those seedlings put out? Thanks!
:jointsmile:
Dizzy1
05-25-2007, 12:22 AM
Well, the case was good for the initial germination, and probably could have lasted up until this point if there were much fewer plants. I wouldn't do more than 3 in there, maybe 2 if you wanted to give them they're best growing chance. Keep in mind though that you will want to remove everything out of it, no drive cages, they just waste alot of space.
I used a black trash bag to line it and duct tape to keep it in place. You'll want an active exhaust fan, I used a 2" 90 degree elbow with a case fan and sealed it in the rear of the case. You should set up a passive intake as well. If your creative, you'll figure out a way.
My plan for next time is to get a matching case and bolt them together side by side with no panels between the two and set it up just like I did with a single case. I would like the extra room to move things around and have the plants able to stretch out more before I have to move them into the cab. I hope to put clones in there if I decide to go the clone route. In the end, the case worked great for it's intended purpose, germination with a little bit of veg time. (2) 13 watt CFLs will do just fine (6500k). Read my log about light distance... and learn. ;)
As for the smell, from what I have read, it varies from none (at my current growth age) to a deffinate, "I know what that smell is". I'm at the "I know what that smell is", stage. It's not over powering, there is a faint "wet green weed" smell in my office/grow room. Very faint, but getting stronger by the day. You can pick up one of the plants and take a wiff and have no doubt what the plant is. Just remember that I have 8 plants and no exhaust filter and nothing to cover the smell up... which will be worked on tonight in the hope it will last me a couple of days until I can make a Kitty litter filter.
Good luck!
Scienceburnmovie
05-25-2007, 12:35 AM
Ok, thanks for the great info! :D
Ill probably only be letting them grow big enough until it warms up and I can move them outside. Im thinking Ill start with only two in it too. as for an air filter, I was thinking about maybe just putting a dryer sheet freshener thing over the fan so that it kind of masks the smell a bit. Hopefully my plants wont smell too bad. Why did you put the garbage bag in there out of curiosity?
Dizzy1
05-25-2007, 01:18 AM
To help mask the light and add a water barrier in case I got too carried away watering the plants. ;)
Don't count on it being too light proof without adding something, you'd be surprised.
And your welcome!
Scienceburnmovie
05-25-2007, 03:07 AM
Light proof would be pretty important actually. I was all go until I went to put my side panel on, and It wasnt the right one. I cant seem to find a decent enough case here, Im going to try and find myself a nice old server sized tower if I can. Thanks for all the help!
Dizzy1
05-25-2007, 05:10 AM
Heh, you'll for sure need a full tower(server).
If you've got a second hand computer store look for an Inwin case, they're about as tall as you can get, and easily gutted.
Dizzy1
05-26-2007, 08:43 AM
Dear diary,
Today I decided to get a few more lights. I picked up another BFB (Big freakin bulb) and -sighs- and getto'd it up on top of the one I'm going to call Bertha and she comes with a theme song.
"One of these things is not like the others, guess which one it is".
There are a couple of plants in there that I'm sure got their lunch money taken by her. You'll notice em, the skinny sickly looking kids with bad skin and glasses. One of which is one of the two that got their roots severed when I tried to take the netting off those Peat pellets when I transplanted. I believe the second one could be the other Lost root case.
Anyway, the growth is really surprising to me, especially that one... Bertha.
Got my pantyhose. :D To build the scrubber... perverts. What a treat that was. How many times do you get to ask the shoe department gal,
"This might sound like an odd question, but where are your pantyhose?"
I went on to explain, because I had to... I could only act like it didn't mean anything for song long, I know what would be going through my mind if I were her.
"I wonder if he wants a quickie"
Or maybe, "Transvestite? I wonder if he knows Larry in the Deli department, don't think I didn't see you at that club Larry, you could have just told me about your other life, I would have understood Larry, I would have understood! You didn't need to leave...".
So I said there was another use for pantyhose... and she looked at me with question in her eyes... She probably thinks I'm going to rob a bank.
And it's FRIDAY! :rastabanna: WOOOOooooo.....
And yes I lightly sprayed the leaves this evening, and I made sure there wasn't any drops on the leaves by the time I lowered the lights.
r00tdoctor
05-26-2007, 08:47 AM
There looking so much better now that there enviroment is in range , good job.
Dizzy1
05-28-2007, 08:23 PM
Built a kitty litter scrubber and changed the exhaust layout.
I got one of those cheapy 6" Inductor fans and since I'm not using 6" duct, the 120mm moved more air with 4" duct. I figured 6" might do ok, but it didn't and it was a freebie anyway, they never rung it up.
Those scrubbers work AWESOME. I don't smell crap! or plants.
Next time I make one, I will use window screen material instead of pantyhose, I think it'll be more durable.
freewheelinfrank
05-28-2007, 08:38 PM
very good lamp source, they're in Texas, ship fast -
Light Bulbs, Rope Lights, Halogen & Fluorescent Light Bulbs (http://www.1000bulbs.com/?gclid=COnu-cmnrIwCFSkjhgod8km9Jw)
:smokin:
Dizzy1
05-29-2007, 04:31 AM
They definitely have what ever bulb your lookin for.
Dizzy1
05-29-2007, 09:11 PM
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/116805-dizzys-cabinet-grow-log-2.html
Little update to my log.
Dizzy1
05-31-2007, 09:09 PM
Little updated pics. One of the pictures has a plant with some nute burn, the only one with it, another weird thing is the look of the top leaves. They looked like this before the nute burn kicked in.
Another shot of the one with the washed out looking leaves.
All the others are doing great and getting big.
I have some "custom" reflectors coming in the mail and after they're mounted up with lights I will be sending the kids into Flowering land to see who stays and who goes.
Dizzy1
06-07-2007, 10:20 PM
Little update to Cabsaga.
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/116805-dizzys-cabinet-grow-log-2.html
Dizzy1
06-12-2007, 03:44 PM
Little update to my log.
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/116805-dizzys-cabinet-grow-log-2.html#post1474968
smokedoja
06-25-2007, 02:05 PM
hey just wanna say nice plants diz ill be watchin
Dizzy1
06-27-2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks guys. :)
AV, I'd be more than happy to help where I can.
The exhaust is 4" all the way through. It's comprised of thin gauge flex duct and 90's, duct tape, aluminum tape, 4" ABS couplings and blood. :p
There is a 120mm fan that moves the air. The 4" ABS couplings are attached to both sides of the 120mm fan. I attached them with 1" x 4" plates of metal (times 4 on all 4 sides of the fan). You could probably attach the couplings with straight duct tape to the fan, anything to make a seal. If you decide to go the 120mm fan route, make sure your using one that pushes some decent CFM, most are low power/low CFM.
All of this pushes into a scrubber. Scrubber uses kitty litter crystals instead of carbon and the plans to build that can be found in the faqs section.
You'll have to ask if you need more specifics on anything else.
Costs? eh, I did my best to NOT keep track. But I would guesstimate, just on the cab material and venting, that it was at least a couple hundred bucks. Wood, screws, duct, fan, hinges, paint, more wood, tape, insulation, etc. You'll need a hole saw (4") and a powerful drill to get through the walls of the cab.
Oh! There is a 2" and 1-1/2" ABS intake as well.
Dizzy1
06-27-2007, 08:34 PM
I'd say 50ish for the scrubber (filter).
Scrubber uses kitty litter crystals instead of carbon
Hey nice grow you got going there. You certainly seem to handle obstacles well, looks like you know what you're doing.
Question: why did you choose kitty litter crystals instead of activated carbon?
I'm gonna try and watch your grow and hopefully pick up some things. Good luck, keep us updated. Lookin good :thumbsup:
Dizzy1
07-04-2007, 05:19 AM
Thanks AR. The crystals do a similar job, are more easy to acquire and much cheaper than carbon. I'm not sure what type of odor carbon produces, if any, but the litter has it's own "aroma". It doesn't smell anything like kitty liter, but once it gets warm it puts out smell that you will notice. The cab was running in a smallish room so there wasn't much of a chance for the smell to dissipate, so it might not be an ordeal for most people. As it is, the smell was odd enough when "someone" was standing over the top of the cab to make them sniff it out. But it didn't smell like green! ;)
I'm full of suggestions on topics, and answers from my short bit of experience and much reading here and elsewhere. Have a question? Just ask. :thumbsup:
Cheers
KL4D4
07-04-2007, 06:58 PM
Glad to see you want to flower them early. CFL's actually really suck in the end unless you keep them small. Keep up the good work.
Thanks AR. The crystals do a similar job, are more easy to acquire and much cheaper than carbon. I'm not sure what type of odor carbon produces, if any, but the litter has it's own "aroma". It doesn't smell anything like kitty liter, but once it gets warm it puts out smell that you will notice. The cab was running in a smallish room so there wasn't much of a chance for the smell to dissipate, so it might not be an ordeal for most people. As it is, the smell was odd enough when "someone" was standing over the top of the cab to make them sniff it out. But it didn't smell like green! ;)
I'm full of suggestions on topics, and answers from my short bit of experience and much reading here and elsewhere. Have a question? Just ask. :thumbsup:
Cheers
Thanks Dizzy :D
When I do my grow I'm gonna build a carbon filter, but if you say the kitty litter crystals are cheaper I'll use those instead. I don't think I'll have to worry about the aroma. I was going to build an odor neutraliser (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/59316-diy-inexpensive-odour-neutraliser.html) anyways, so I think that'll help kill the smell if I don't like it. My plan was to build a grow cabinet which would be placed in a small walk in closet. I was gonna have the odor neutraliser outside the cab and kept in the closet, to keep it as stealthy as possible. I might move soon, so that plan is only if I stay.
Oh and I forgot to mention, I liked the way you hooked up that pc fan to that fan controller to the PSU. Great use for extra parts huh :thumbsup:
Dizzy1
07-06-2007, 03:43 PM
If you got the parts, might as well use em. ;)
If you do go the closet route, make sure you have some exhaust out of it. The scrubber will take care of the smell, but there will still be a lot of heat in the closet. Seems to be where a fair chunk of people have the 1st issue, not thinking about venting outside the immediate area.
Good luck!
Yeah that was one issue I was concerned about. I was thinking of locking my door at night when I sleep, and then opening the closet door. The closet is kind of between my window and my bathroom, so I was thinking if I kept the bathroom fan on, and kept the window open (with a window fan blowing outside air in) as an active intake, I think it might help some what. All I really need to do from there would be to build somekind of tubing that could reach those couple yards from the exhaust of the cabinet to outside the closet and pointing towards the bathroom. I do realize that having the window open and the fans on won't be much if I can't get the air out of the closet.
Another way I was thinking to deal with it (and this would require more work but would probably be best) would be to actually create a vent on the wall. There's a wall that separates the closet from the room. I could cut through that enough for the size of one of those heating vents. I could stick a vent cover on the room side, and I could feed the exhaust to the closet side of the vent. I could use one of those steel or aluminum converters from the exhaust to the vent.
I don't think anyone would really notice the change too, someone might at one point down the line say, "hey, did you always have that there?" I'd just shrugg it off and say, "I guess..." LoL. Whenever I move out I would have to get rid of it, but it wouldn't be hard to repair. I already have the joint compound, I'd just need the spray for the texture of the wall and the paint to match (and prob. some plywood for backing). Hell, I gotta buy that anyways since I got some other stuff that needs fixin :) ...I'd be tearing up the walls a little anyways I think since I would be installing an electrical outlet or two in the closet anyways...
I'll probably build another odor neutraliser to stick in my room if I want to cover the KL crystal smell. Oh well, I got some time still to plan this out lol I'll just go off like this if you ask me about it :D
Anyways, any initial thoughts about that? No need to go in depth if you don't want to I still got time, when I'm ready I'll be making my own threads for it :jointsmile: ...... wait what did I just do? :wtf: Oh.... SORRY FOR THE HIJACK, trust me, don't get me started I'll just keep rolling :o I hope you don't mind.
Anyways, thanks again Dizzy :thumbsup: Keep us updated :jointsmile:
Dizzy1
07-06-2007, 10:02 PM
Hey no worries.
I'm not sure how good venting into your wall would be. Depending on how your walls are constructed, it might just be a sealed cavity (by the wall framing) and not really exhaust anywhere.
Can you go through the ceiling into an Attic or maybe through the floor into a crawlspace?
Does your closet share a wall with the main plumbing wall? Could vent into the sewer vent.
Main problem is the recirculation of the warm air, eventually that will get warmer and warmer, etc, until your steaming your plants.
Might try a test hole in the wall and see if you can vent into it, look up inside to see if it just stops or if you can see a space above the top of the walls.
Sorry, I meant I would make a vent in the wall that separates the closet from my room, with it cut through both sides of the wall (the closet side, and the room side). The Exhaust would be fed directly to the vent on the closet side, and the air would be pushed through the exhaust tube in the closet, through the vented wall, and into my room.
If I kept the window open with the fan on, and the fan in my bathroom on with the bathroom door open, I think it would ventilate ok. The exhaust for the bathroom fan is a good enough distance from the window.
Here I hope this pic illustrates my point, literally. I love mspaint :D . Sorry for the confusion. Thanks again :thumbsup:
Dizzy1
07-06-2007, 11:27 PM
Ok, that explains it better. :)
Would work for me.
Dizzy1
07-18-2007, 05:28 AM
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/116805-dizzys-cabinet-grow-log-3.html#post1545129
Little update to my log. :jointsmile:
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