What They Never Told You

[lardman]

peta2: What They Never Told You (http://www.peta2.com/p2vsk2_flash/index.html?c=p21617)

I just got done reading and watching that, and I feel fucking sick. I never knew that the animals were treated like that. I never really thought about eating animals before, I always thought its just what we do, but Im regreting it now.

It makes me feel so fucking bad, see the pigs hanging with their necks cut, still alive twitching and freaking out.

Go to that and see if you want to eat animals anymore. Im not trying to get people to not eat meat, just take a look.

Peace,
Lardman

[slipknotpsycho]

i still eat animals and i garuntee it's nothign i haven't seen before...

i've heard stories too... my grandma grew up on a farm, one of the main products was chicken... she had to slaughter 'em....

btw if you're that worried about it, find a local butcher.... i knew a guy who was a local butcher, he shot the animals in the head before anything...

[affasd]

ya i feel bad lol but im about to eat a cheesburger

[skatin_foo15]

Shit im gonna go cook me a steak, eat me some eggs. And probably go shoot some nice little rabbits, and maybe stomp them out if there not dead. Fuck peta.

[Pipe Dreams]

Dont be a wuss. Eat your meat.

EDIT: Im watching that and eating fried chicken.

[skatin_foo15]

i like that person!^^^ Meat, its whats for dinner.

[CigarGuy]

For every animal you don't eat I'm gonna eat 2!

[slipknotpsycho]

"redmeat's bad for you, don't eat no red meat.... NO! don't eat no GREEN MEAT! if you're one of the few chosen lucky ones to get your hands on a steak, bite the shit outta it!"

points for anyoen who knows what that's from...

[WestC0ast4lyfe]

^^^^^^^^^^Hah Chris Rock. That's pretty good stand up. Yeah, fuck vegetables, more meat. We are on top of the food chain, so act like it. :)

[Frickr]

watch the animal plannet, the way some of the animals kill others, is alot more inhuman then what we do to them. All these fucking yuppys out there, that try to put names on animals, and give them human quallities. fuck 'um im eatin my meat, and i enjoy hunting, i go phesent, deer, cyote, rabbit, and i fish, all but fishing is with a gun, i guess raccoons too, beat those to death with bats and golf clubs!

[Frickr]

sorry for the violent tone, it just gets me excited to think about hunting

[slipknotpsycho]

watch the animal plannet, the way some of the animals kill others, is alot more inhuman then what we do to them. All these fucking yuppys out there, that try to put names on animals, and give them human quallities. fuck 'um im eatin my meat, and i enjoy hunting, i go phesent, deer, cyote, rabbit, and i fish, all but fishing is with a gun, i guess raccoons too, beat those to death with bats and golf clubs!

i poked this 'possum on my fence once with a rake... lol those fuckers mouths look nasty when they hiss at you (yes they HISS)

i didn't do it to exactly be cruel tho.. that shit was driving my dogs batshit insane and i got tired of listening to 'em, so i pushed it over to the other side of the fence (it was a wood fence)

[Frickr]

coon huntin is fun shit, load of guys, and a bunch of dogs, the dogs tree them by the time you find a tree full of coons, your already good and liquerd up, then have one guy climb the tree and start knocking them down, when they fall the people on the ground hit them in the head. its the best way to preserve the pelts, that way you can get money for them, otherwise you have a hole where you shot it

[afghooey]

I really don't have anything against eating meat... but the way we treat animals like objects disturbs me.

These animals are involuntarily sacrificing their lives so that we can go on living... we should at least be grateful for it and show them some respect while they are still alive, IMO.

[Frickr]

well you got to understand that in my area of the country, they are over populated and considered a treat to the crops. since coyote numbers are contained because alot of them are killed off before lambing season, there isnt any preditors to really keep the numbers in check. and if you had the chance to get 5 dollers for a pelt verse .50 cents, i would choose the 5 doller one, and you also dont have the expense of ammonition, and also, they are nocternal animals, so in the haste of everything, it would be alot more dangerous to be shooting guns at them.. you have to look at it in the broader terms then im just going out and beating a helpless creature to death. im keeping animal numbers in check, and helping out the fellow farmers by keeping these animals out of their crops and feed, helping fellow ranchers by keeping their livestock alive, and most importantly helping my weed fund!

[afghooey]

Wasn't rippin' on you specifically man, was referring more to the first post of the thread.

Not that I agree with what you do either, but hey it's your choice.

[rottenPauL]

what about the poor plants? killing carrots and lettuce and all those poor onions and peppers, murdering tomatoes and mashing garlic.. We better stop eating plants too... we should stick to water. Oh shit! we cant! we might kill the amoebas and other microorganisms living inside it! Life is so precious!

[afghooey]

Plants don't have nerve endings or brains with which to comprehend pain, either. :P

[Purple Banana]

But there have been reports that chemical changes similar to pain are sensed in plants who are being severed from their root system.

If flowers screamed bloody murder when you picked them, would people get bouquets?

[afghooey]

If flowers screamed bloody murder when you picked them, would people get bouquets?

Probably.

[Hardcore Newbie]

My argument is that vegetables are literally defenseless, so it's cruel to hunt them. Any animal has a chance to survive and escape :P

Yeah, I'm nearly a carnivore :)

Maddox (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill) has a funny article on vegetarianism

[lardman]

Yeah, many hours and a charbroiled chicken sandwich later and I've gone back to not giving a shit and meat is delicious. Thanks for convincing me. Fucking peta and their brainwashing anthropomorphism shit!

Peace :D

[Reefer Rogue]

Ba da ba ba ba, I'm loving it :D

[RamblerGambler]

I can accept personal choice when it comes to vegetarianism, even if I do view any diet that requires a person to supplement vitamens or die slightly unnatural. But why, why must they attempt to dissuade every carnivore from their chosen dietary lifestyle?

[jokeyjokejoke]

So vegetarian, here's a chicken. Eat it or i'll kill another one.

[MagicalHerb]

Shit im gonna go cook me a steak, eat me some eggs. And probably go shoot some nice little rabbits, and maybe stomp them out if there not dead. Fuck peta.

thats fucked up man. how would you like it if someone cooked and ate your best friend, fried your cousin's undeveloped children and ate them for breakfast, and then shot you and while you were writhing in pain stomped on your head? fuck that.
maybe a little dramatic but you see what im getting at? its inhumane people like you with no compassion for life that cause so much of the probolems today.
eating meat is ok, other animals eat it. i eat meat although i try not to in excess. but the fact that so many people feel no remorse for this disgusts me! animals are like little friends who run around and play and eat and live, why kill them in such horrible ways and make them live like that! :(

[katyowns]

PETA is so full of false propaganda that they rival the United States Government in that regard.


PETA will kill humans to save animals, doesn't make sense does it?

[Nochowderforyou]

That video is NOT the outlook of every slaughter house. They just twist stories to their advantage, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't PETA the one dumping dead puppies in trash bins and got caught?

I eat meat, and yes, I understand that there is no such thing as humanily killing an animal. IU worked in a pork slaughter house, and the way they killed pigs was not slicing their necks open. An electrode cam out and went in their neck, and it's supposed to shut of their brain instantly.

When they are still twitching, they are not alive still suffering. It is simply nerves still reacting that haven't fully died yet. My Oma is on a farm, and she told me once that she sliced the neck of this cow. 20 minutes later she came back after all the blood had drained, and she got 2 swift, quick kicks to the chest. This was well after the animal was dead, so it's just nerves reacting still.

Don't think that every slaughterhouse is like that because they're not. What they show is a VERY small fraction of uncontrolled slaughterhouses. If you choose not to eat meat, so be it, but I will never stop eating meat.

[HeallyRi]

When my python was near 5 ft, I was whole sale'n baby chicks...
Hold em by the body, and *SHWAP!*, wack there heads hard against the counter top.. mostly one hit kill. Freeze em and heat em to feed em.

Eat meat. :)

[afghooey]

That's red paint, dude. XD

But yeah, PETA are asses. They oversensationalize the mistreatment of animals, which really just makes people care about it even less.

But seriously, we do treat animals like objects. Maybe there isn't a completely humane way to slaughter an animal, but we could be treating them better while they're alive, giving them better living conditions and such.

[RamblerGambler]

thats fucked up man. how would you like it if someone cooked and ate your best friend, fried your cousin's undeveloped children and ate them for breakfast, and then shot you and while you were writhing in pain stomped on your head? fuck that. :(

How can you compare the life of a human to the life of an animal. Is a chickens life really equal to a person's? There should be and are humane means of killing animals for their meat. And rmember, don't believe everything you see on tv. Or the interwub.

[ukmonkey]

SERIOUSLY

...Give a shit?

pfft, worse things in life. Get over it.

[RIP ODB]

I eat only cute animals. Kittens, ducklings, koalas, etc.

[smoke it]

fuck peta. i eat meat and always will.

[Frivolous248]

PETA is so hypocritical.

Don't most their protests end up in violence anyway? Treating other humans with violence to get their way...

And I seriously doubt pigs play fucking video games.

PETA are bad people.

[partyguy420]

did you know that uncle sam(a united states guy) actualy worked in a butcher shop?

[MagicalHerb]

How can you compare the life of a human to the life of an animal. Is a chickens life really equal to a person's? There should be and are humane means of killing animals for their meat. And rmember, don't believe everything you see on tv. Or the interwub.

in my opinion, humans are equal to animals. because we are all aware and in the same present on the same world breathing the same air..people need to eat, and as omnivores we have the right to eat meat. but the way we are doing things is so against what i believe in, yes there are humane slaughterhouses run by sane people, but there are also terrible ones and there are alot, and even if they do treat an animal humanely it still most likely will be in a cage for most of its life..know what i mean? we need small, self-sustaining communities so we wouldnt have a need for mass production like that
but that will never happen anymore,so..
who knows. im stoned. peace.

[hempplaya]

i want some bacon and eggs

[Jizzle Blizzle420]

I really don't have anything against eating meat... but the way we treat animals like objects disturbs me.

These animals are involuntarily sacrificing their lives so that we can go on living... we should at least be grateful for it and show them some respect while they are still alive, IMO.

ya i agree with this. im gonna keep eating meat cuz i like it, but we could do a better job of keeping the animals from suffering. If it was a human going through that we would flip shit.

[WeeDIndeeD420]

humans walk and talk and civilize for the MOST part, try to teach a chicken to let say ooooooo maybe read?!?!?!?!, then we can compare whos more superior, as long as the human race doesnt get overrun by some aliens or sum shit you really cant stop the fact the ppl get hungry:smokin:

[TheFatKid]

Killing animals who were born to die and feed us is ok. Killing domestic animals for fun is fucked up in all sorts of ways. PETA should stop trying to get people not to eat meat, and try to stop domestic animals from being beaten and treated wrong. I am connected to my dog like I am connected to my parents.

Also, I hate when animals are killed for fancy clothing. I understand that geese need to be killed in order to get down, but other than that, animals shouldn't be killed for fancy clothing, like fur coats, scarves, hats, etc. etc.

[TallulahGreen]

coon huntin is fun shit, load of guys, and a bunch of dogs, the dogs tree them by the time you find a tree full of coons, your already good and liquerd up, then have one guy climb the tree and start knocking them down, when they fall the people on the ground hit them in the head. its the best way to preserve the pelts, that way you can get money for them, otherwise you have a hole where you shot it
...wow...all I can say..is wow.

I won't even kill an ant..

:hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

[TallulahGreen]

what about the poor plants? killing carrots and lettuce and all those poor onions and peppers, murdering tomatoes and mashing garlic.. We better stop eating plants too... we should stick to water. Oh shit! we cant! we might kill the amoebas and other microorganisms living inside it! Life is so precious!

This argument has and always will be an incredibly stupid argument.

Just thought I would point that out to ya.

[TallulahGreen]

I can accept personal choice when it comes to vegetarianism, even if I do view any diet that requires a person to supplement vitamens or die slightly unnatural. But why, why must they attempt to dissuade every carnivore from their chosen dietary lifestyle?


You don't have to supplement vitamins if you are a vegetarian. You can still get the same nutrients through other things besides meat, YES EVEN B12 AND OMEGA 3!!!

Die slightly unnnatural? What in the hell are you talking about?

Why does everyone think that just because we are human we HAVE to be carnivorious? Ill have you know that no one else in my family is a vegetarian, nor did I have any influence from any peers as a child..I naturally chose to be a vegetarian. I simply did not like meat.

Why can't we just let people chose their diet and let it be? We are not all the same, we are all very different and unique individuals..and what works for one person may not work for another.

I like my fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes, and dairy and eggs...thank you.

[RamblerGambler]

Take a look in the mirror. See those cannines? There's a reason we have those. Everyone has different views on this. Let's see what Maddox has to say:http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor

[TheFatKid]

Rambler, can I have that monkey? I've been dying for some of that tender monkey lately.

[TallulahGreen]

Take a look in the mirror. See those cannines? There's a reason we have those. Everyone has different views on this. Let's see what Maddox has to say:For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three. (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor)

Yes well, some people are born without them. Have they just evolved differently???? HmmmMmmMMM....

[ukmonkey]

I FORGOT AVBOUT THAT SITE! bOOKMARKS* THAT PAGE is ACTUALLY THE BEST PAGE IN THE UNIVERSE HA

[skatin_foo15]

thats fucked up man. how would you like it if someone cooked and ate your best friend, fried your cousin's undeveloped children and ate them for breakfast, and then shot you and while you were writhing in pain stomped on your head? fuck that.
maybe a little dramatic but you see what im getting at? its inhumane people like you with no compassion for life that cause so much of the probolems today.
eating meat is ok, other animals eat it. i eat meat although i try not to in excess. but the fact that so many people feel no remorse for this disgusts me! animals are like little friends who run around and play and eat and live, why kill them in such horrible ways and make them live like that! :(

Well honestly id be happy cause the dude put me out of my misery! And I honestly would be kindof in awe that someone ate my friend, and then id just ask what the fuck they were on haha. And I do have alot of compassion for life. I dont torture animals until they die. I dont run over peoples pets on purpose and leave them there to die. I seriously only kill rabbits and I fish sometimes. Rabbits are just rodents in my mind, and they destroy crops. There are so many rabbits where we go you have no idea.

[RamblerGambler]

Don't forget, if you bring up evolution the Kansas Board of Education mandates we must give equal time to Creationism. No humans. *Bang* Humans.

[TallulahGreen]

Don't forget, if you bring up evolution the Kansas Board of Education mandates we must give equal time to Creationism. No humans. *Bang* Humans.

Yes..I obviously have different beliefs.

GO DARWIN!!!!:hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

[skatin_foo15]

http://www.beefnutrition.org/uDocs/ACF3A.pdf

Check that out.

[LazySmoking420]

Animals were put here for people to eat...

That's just how the cookie crumbles...

[Four50HP383Chevy]

peta is a bunch of stupid cry babie pussies. end of story

[JaggedEdge]

I like my meat. I would say my diet consists of about 75% meat.

I wouldn't be able to kill an animal for food unless I was starving, but I have no problem eating one that has been killed by someone else.

[TallulahGreen]

Everyone should watch the movie Fast Food Nation.

[Matt the Funk]

It's just a dietary choice. Nothing special about it. You don't like meat? Who cares. Don't eat it. You like meat? Go ahead, eat it. It's natural. How the animals are treated I am sure is exaggerated but still, although they are animals, they live lives a lot like humans. Born to fufil their purpose in the work place. While they live their lives in a cage...

[TheAtomicPunk]

If i stop and think about it, in the middle of eating steak or a cheeseburger, I throw that shit away. It makes me sick... But, it's always been so normal, growing it's completly normal and a daily part of nutrition. If you're going to take a stand for this, I would recommend taking a look at humans eating humans first... If you're stomach can handle it that is.

[suhl]

vegetarians are like christians in that they are trying to push their views on people that dont want to hear about it and didnt ask about it. "i like lobster, you dont see me going around pushing lobster on people"

[TallulahGreen]

I'm a vegetarian and I could care less if other people are vegetarians or not.

We are all different...and being from an extremely weird liberal town and on occaision working in an organic/natural deli I get to encounter weird diets on the daily.

We are all different and thats okay.

Just because someone is a vegetarian doesn't mean they are going to preach their ideals onto others.

In retrospect, I probably should eat meat. However, I physically cannot and will not do it. I have not eaten meat for as long as I can remember, nor do I ever crave meat..in fact, I have no freaking clue what meat even tastes like.

I am really healthy....and being a vegetarian works out for me. It's just naturally how I became..and thats okay...just like it's okay that my boyfriend likes to hunt animals....and eat the gnarliest meat I could ever think of.

[Frickr]

Rambler, can I have that monkey? I've been dying for some of that tender monkey lately. I dont know that qualla looks pretty tasty, bit more meaty then a monkey

[Frickr]

the best meal is a bloody steak, just cooked enough to warm it up pretty much, then after you get done chowin that down, take your piece of bread they give you, and soak up all the blood and eat that! I also like raw hamburger, a dish called tiger meat.

What would be more painful to die from: a snake constricting you to death, a lion or wolf or something, chomping on your neck, or a bullet to the head? id choose the bullet as the least painful

[BizzleLuvin]

if your dog tasted like pork
would you eat him?

[delusionsofNORMALity]

people
eating
tasty
animals

i'm a member, you should be too.

[Hardcore Newbie]

I like my meat. I would say my diet consists of about 75% meat.

I wouldn't be able to kill an animal for food unless I was starving, but I have no problem eating one that has been killed by someone else.

I eat about the same, people think I'm insane, but I love animals so much, they taste way too good.

Conversely I can only eat vegetables in soup where I can't taste them.

[RamblerGambler]

Or maybe start a MEAT club,
Mankind
Eating
Animals
Together

[Stellar]

The PETA, as much as they tend to become annoying, are really only that way because a lot of the officials have passion for what they are trying to do that would border on fanatical.

Sure. There are joints and farms where animals are treated like shit and die miserable deaths everyday from either abuse, neglect, or terrible living conditions. I've worked at one or two like that when I was still in school.

Then again, there are farms like the ones I inspect now that treat their animals better than most third world countries treat their humans. PETA ain't showin' than anytime soon. Also, in the end, its health inspectors like me that are responsible for disallowing that type of behavior and any type of lethal living conditions. Not the fucken PETA. All they are really is activists and rarely do they find themselves in the position of enforcer. They're really just snitches that could better invest their time become health/safety inspectors and actually mandate changes for the things they don't like or watch the palce get shut down.

I'll admit, though. It is very difficult to deal with weasel farm operators and managers that lie through their teeth about what they change and what they fix. The type of job it is, I don't go back there everyday to check on it, unless I had to call the EPA.

I still even work at local farms, since they simply CANNOT afford the money to hire the proper amount of people, or get their hands on trained and capable individuals that can handle being 10 different things at once and take the load off of people who really can't do some things. Every one I work at is filled with over-worked people doing 5 peoples' jobs. Of course you're not gonna be able to eat off the floor. But, we still take care of our animals and facilities, even though its a lot more troublesome than you would ever realized unless you've worked at large-scale farm productions.. Even then, there are diseases that spread overnight and kill thousands on some days. You can't always control everything. Then you have fights where they get too injured to live and you have to snap the necks. Its not a pretty thing and its not for people who don't care, either.

[Reefer Rogue]

The Big Mac is SO good.

[MagicalHerb]

mcdonalds is poison though.

[BUZz UK]

It always makes me laugh seeing how militant and annoyed people get over eating meat.

I was vegetarian for 10 years. I didn't have to supplement my diet, i didn't try to stop anyone else eating meat, it was all my choice. i also had all the arseholes saying "yum, meat tastes SO good" and all the other shit to wind people up.

It's just a food, you're pretty sad if it's that big a deal to be eating meat... like it makes you better because you eat it? lol.

I do eat meat now, but only organic free range meat. I do it because the animals are raised in better conditions, not pumped full of steriods or fed on other animals.

The reason PETA are so militant is because there are so many arseholes out there. Fuck humans, they can defend themselves. At least there are people out there who actually care enough about a cause to get involved.

The rest of you can enjoy your Big Macs, but remember to destroy property at McDonalds equal or greater in value to what you've purchased there...
(and go for a jog afterwards, you fat fucks)

[mfqr]

I don't mind vegetarians, given that they don't bother me about how I eat meat.
The thing that they don't seem to understand is that everything feeds on everything to stay alive (web of life). We humans are just the predators of Earth. Just like predators have evolutionary advantages to their pray, we do as well, but more on the lines of technological advantages. They call meat eaters inhumane for supporting the meat industry, but they never bring up people who physically abuse their dogs or cats, or whatever.

However, this is one thing that I have noticed over the years. It seems as if hunting nowadays is too far-fetched, such as people who just go out to shoot deer and other animals just for the sport of it. I am very against that. I don't understand why there's a sport to killing other living things, but it really bothers me sometimes. Other than that, we have adapted to our environment (the whole planet in general), and have found ways to catch our prey. Our bodies are made to eat meat AND vegetables. Somehow I think that eating vegetables alone leaves one malnourished, but I could be wrong.

I ate a lot of fillet mignon on Mother's Day. It was delicious.

[afghooey]

I don't mind vegetarians, given that they don't bother me about how I eat meat.
The thing that they don't seem to understand is that everything feeds on everything to stay alive (web of life). We humans are just the predators of Earth. Just like predators have evolutionary advantages to their pray, we do as well, but more on the lines of technological advantages. They call meat eaters inhumane for supporting the meat industry, but they never bring up people who physically abuse their dogs or cats, or whatever.

However, this is one thing that I have noticed over the years. It seems as if hunting nowadays is too far-fetched, such as people who just go out to shoot deer and other animals just for the sport of it. I am very against that. I don't understand why there's a sport to killing other living things, but it really bothers me sometimes. Other than that, we have adapted to our environment (the whole planet in general), and have found ways to catch our prey. Our bodies are made to eat meat AND vegetables. Somehow I think that eating vegetables alone leaves one malnourished, but I could be wrong.

I ate a lot of fillet mignon on Mother's Day. It was delicious.

I'm not even vegetarian, but that came off as a bit condescending. Of course most vegetarians, at least all the ones I know, are well aware that humans have to feed on other life to survive. The point of being vegetarian (at least the most common one I've encountered) isn't to preserve life, but to preserve quality of life by preventing more animals from being born into a life of senseless misery and inhumane slaughter. A lot of animals suffer in incredibly dirty, crowded conditions, without proper veteranary care, without enough exercise or stimulus, being fed hormones and the remains of other animals (Mad cow disease is spread by feeding the ground-up spinal columns of cows to other cows), only to end up being processed while still alive. Granted, some meat industry operations are much less gruesome than others, but for the most part animals could be treated a hell of a lot better than they are.

I think what a lot of people overlook is that animals aren't meat until they're slaughtered. Just because we breed animals for the purpose of eating them doesn't mean they're objects to be used and abused. Until they're actually dead, they're living, breathing, feeling creatures. Actually, I think the fact that we consciously bring these animals into the world should impose some responsibility on our part to ensure that they're treated well, or decently at the very least.

Besides, this is the food that you're using to nourish your own body. For YOUR sake you should show it some respect.

[TallulahGreen]

It always makes me laugh seeing how militant and annoyed people get over eating meat.

I was vegetarian for 10 years. I didn't have to supplement my diet, i didn't try to stop anyone else eating meat, it was all my choice. i also had all the arseholes saying "yum, meat tastes SO good" and all the other shit to wind people up.

It's just a food, you're pretty sad if it's that big a deal to be eating meat... like it makes you better because you eat it? lol.

I do eat meat now, but only organic free range meat. I do it because the animals are raised in better conditions, not pumped full of steriods or fed on other animals.

The reason PETA are so militant is because there are so many arseholes out there. Fuck humans, they can defend themselves. At least there are people out there who actually care enough about a cause to get involved.

The rest of you can enjoy your Big Macs, but remember to destroy property at McDonalds equal or greater in value to what you've purchased there...
(and go for a jog afterwards, you fat fucks)



Unfortunatly...at least as far as I know...at this point in time there are no legal regulations or restrictions for free range cows.

At this point in time I believe the only legal restrictions and regulations for free range meat are egg laying hens.

Otherwise...ya never know.

Still though, organic is better for sure..not nitrates or hormones...etc...Which is just absolutly sad and disgusting that people at meat pumped of hormones/nitrates..etc.

[Stellar]

We are very much concerned with getting growth hormones taken out of the diets.

Even free range cows are known to be pumped full of it.

It causes long term damage to the liver, interferes or advances puberty, and that is all in humans, not to mention the actual animals. lahdeedah. Its a major concern.

Lots of pollutants and toxins get into the animals, and, in turn, us. People forget to remember that, sometimes. It is why clean living conditions and proper nutrition are important. We try to keep the chemicals out of you and the animals. Its become more of a concern as the years tick by and long-term studies have been able to progress. the concern seems to be starting to die down a bit, tho, which alarms me.

Yeah, its cool to give a cow a queen sized bed, or, whatever. But, its more important to me that its healthy and eating right.

[TheAtomicPunk]

Coincidentally I watched Supersize Me in school today, because I go to public school and they offer no actual education, only movies. Parts of it made me disgusted and I never wanted to eat McDonald's again, but then I thought, wait, I haven't had McDonald's in about a year... Then it made me really want an Oreo McFlurry... So I went to McDonald's... (It was so good, but I passed on any "real" food)

[LuckyG]

My sister used to be on a big vegan trip. "Meat is murder!" she'd cry. "Meat is neat," was the reply she got. Don't tell me what to do based on ethics, there are hundreds of things in everyday life that we take for granted that other people and animals have had to suffer for for it to get to us. I could spend all my time feeling guilty for the ones getting screwed over, but instead I enjoy life.

Which probably makes me a horrible person.