View Full Version : hell and a merciful god? can they co-exist.
juggalo420
12-23-2004, 09:59 PM
I guess if your christian you believe bad people go to hell and that you reside there for eternity.
I thought god was all merciful like a father, but i dont know that many loving fathers that would forever forsake their children for a few bad choices.
And how does a persons fate for eternity depend on their actions for AT MOST 100 years, that doesnt appear fair or reasonable.
Looking forward for others views on this.
Nullific
12-23-2004, 10:03 PM
No. What is "bad" exactly? What is immoral? Different people have different opinions, some say it is wrong to use drugs, have premarital sex, swear, gamble but these are all vices. Non of those activities hurt anyone except the user in some cases, and it should be their decision. I believe that people should be able to do whatever they want so long as it doesn't hurt or interfere with anyone elses life, you get your freedom and they get theirs.
(By the way ANDY WHAT THE FUCK? I TRIED TO CALL YOU AT LEAST 20 TIMES, WHAT HAPPENED TO GETTIN UP AT 8?)
FrenchInhale
12-23-2004, 10:50 PM
I guess if your christian you believe bad people go to hell and that you reside there for eternity.
I thought god was all merciful like a father, but i dont know that many loving fathers that would forever forsake their children for a few bad choices.
And how does a persons fate for eternity depend on their actions for AT MOST 100 years, that doesnt appear fair or reasonable.
Looking forward for others views on this.
Maybe im wrong, but I thought God WAS NOT merciful.
He is jealous, vengful (sp.), and furious. Doesn't anyone read the old testament? God was a badass... smiting people left and right... To bad he doesn't do that now.
juggalo420
12-24-2004, 12:07 AM
Maybe im wrong, but I thought God WAS NOT merciful.
He is jealous, vengful (sp.), and furious. Doesn't anyone read the old testament? God was a badass... smiting people left and right... To bad he doesn't do that now.
I thought and was taught (when i was a christian) god was such a 'badass' in the old testament was out of necesity to help the israelites survive until a messiah could arrive. Im also under the understanding jesus is considered the messiah and himself god, he taught peace and understanding for the most part and he himself said god is love. So using what jesus said about love and an all mercifull god my question still remains how do christians(which i no longer am) console a merciful god with hell eternal.
juggalo420
12-29-2004, 08:31 AM
???
FrenchInhale
12-29-2004, 08:48 AM
Hell is a place without God, if you don't accept God as God in this life you will be seperated from him in the next life.
juggalo420
12-29-2004, 10:08 AM
Hell is a place without God, if you don't accept God as God in this life you will be seperated from him in the next life.
are you talking about hell being a physical place of torment, or hell being a philosophical concept which would be the absence of god or great distance from god as it is in judaism? just interested.
GHoSToKeR
12-29-2004, 07:33 PM
aah Christianity - the religion of contradictions
FrenchInhale
12-30-2004, 08:11 AM
are you talking about hell being a physical place of torment, or hell being a philosophical concept which would be the absence of god or great distance from god as it is in judaism? just interested.
I personally think it is physical, but im not saying that philosophical is incorrect.
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