Doco's Waterfarm Hut

[doco]

Well, the plants seem to have survived the transition from bubbler to the waterfarm so this will be the start of my latest adventure, Doco's Hut 3.0. This is my first time getting wet with hydro and naturally I am running into various little problems but I guess thatâ??s another way to learn.

First I overfed them and most of them got some nute burn around the edges of the lower leaves. The Ph was running high (6.3) and I tried correcting it a couple of days but just couldnâ??t get it to come down so I made a fresh batch, made certain it was phâ??d to 5.8 and only about half the nutes I used before. Tonight I checked again and the Ph is up at 6.7 so Iâ??m not sure wtf is going on. I dunno â?? like I said, this is as much a learning experience as anything else â?? Iâ??ve got plenty of herb from my last harvest so if I muck this up itâ??s ok.

After that first res change I knew that two piece GH Res/Controller combo was a goner. After some quick footwork and just a little spilled water, I eliminated the secondary res and now just have the one that the recirculating bucket feeding it directly.

Plants seem to be growing well despite my clumsy start. These are just over 4 weeks from seed, germed the beginning of April. One thing that is really perplexing me is this new digital ballast I have does not seem as bright as my standard old clunkerâ?¦maybe itâ??s just my perception but Iâ??m scouting for a 1000w now. I am putting way too much time & energy into this to be half steppinâ??.

Forward into the unknown!!

[Weedhound]

Your ph is too high because they got burned doco....you will have to check it several times a day to keep it in check until they have outgrown the problem. EVERYONE does it.....people like myself more than once. :D It helps to lighten up your nutes for a few days as well, then go back to normal.
They look really good. :thumbsup:

[xcrispi]

Hey Doco ,
The p/h thing can get to be a pita , mine rises a lil bit each day still too due to no R/O system . The stronger the nute strength gets the easier it will get for you , as there will be more buffers in the mix then .
I got rid of the float valve etc... in a hell of a hurry too , why I said I wished I had just bought a big rubbermade garb. can to begin w/ .
Looks great so far !
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[doco]

Thanks, I hope they stabilize soon. I will check it morning & night now. What I don't get is what is causing it to go so high? I ph the RO water in 5 gallon buckets before I add nutes, add nutes, ph again and use two different recently calibrated meters to verify it so I know it's right when I first do it.

Weedhound: How are your girls doing? I was mortified to hear about the mishap the other night.

Crispi: I love your setup man - It's making me start to think outside the hut....

[Weedhound]

I was told that the process of destruction of the plant tissue itself causes ph to rise. For me, it's usually the first sign that I have done something wrong. Not only does it go up quickly, its hard to bring back down and just doesn't want to stay there until the plant stabilizes. This is not like the rising ph at the end of flowering which is normal and due to high nutrient needs.

[doco]

The Waterfarm continues to amaze me with incredible rapid growth but the plants seem a little stretched and stringy to me too. I haven't grown this strain before and I am highly suspicious of this new digital ballast I got too (seems weak to me) so it may be a combination of things. I'm having a new 600w digital delivered on Monday and I may pick up a 1000w when I see a friend this weekend - 600w should be perfect for a HydroHut Mini but I'll have the 1000w if I need it.

The PH has settled down and I usually only need a few drops of pH down in the evenings. The main thing was I had to develop a trust relationship with my pH meter, which I know sounds strange but it's true.

They are somewhere in the range of 5.5 , maybe 6 weeks old. I topped them earlier this week and I'll put them into flower Monday night, once I have the 600w installed. So far, one looks male and two have positively shown female. It's more the plant structure than anything else that's making me think male - it's got a distinctly different structure than the others. In the photos its front & left, closest to the camera.

[doco]

Wow, I just looked at the pics from one week ago - thats a lot of growth!

[doco]

I am starting to really like hydroponics. ;) Only 4 days since the last pics and I can't even see the recirculating bucket anymore.

Changed the nutes out last night, added some B-52 to help with the stretch and I'll start to flower them tomorrow after installing the new 600w digital.

Although I'm impressed with the hyper growth they are having, I'm a little concerned about the stretching and the branches ability to bear the weight of giant buds. I've got a feeling I will be tying a lot of these up to keep them supported. If that's the worst of my problems, I guess I'm doing ok!

[dusto2k3]

hell ya doco. I'm glad to see your new setup is kicking ass. I think i'm moving to 2x600hps next time. I have this coco and it amazes me as well

Like i said, it looks rockin!!!

[doco]

dude that would be sick! Thats like 190,000 lumens!! In a HydroHut lol!! I was thinking of two 400 in here but decided just to go with one 600 for now since it's nearly twice the lumens as a 400 anyway.

You know this is all mostly your fault, right Dusto? I was just gonna grow in a closet with CFL's and I would have been perfectly happy....then I saw your thread last year with your HydroHut. Now, $$$ later I'm still not done! Damn you!! Oh, but wait - I haven't had to buy herb since then either....:jointsmile:

I just saw a water cooled cooltube on ebay, claims to take 93% of the heat from a 1000w bulb. Doesn't need any special venting or fans, just a water pump. From here in town too...very interesting. $375 though, ouch!

[dusto2k3]

woah, i never heard of such a thing. I'd be scared to run water through my lamp..LoL zzzzzzzaaapppppp. Plus i think water blocks some of the spectrum. I dont really know, just my thoughts. Hey get one and let me see!!!

I know, i've been constantly shelling out $$$$$$$ for mine too. look at the pics in my sig. I dont have a log, but just pics. I got a rex and pumps and sprinkler thingys now...all automatic its great.!

Take Care

D

[stinkyattic]

You hydro people are weird but I have to admit that I love Hut V. 3.0. Those plants look DAMN happy...

lol @ 1200w in a Home Box. WTF! You'll end up with football colas... :eek:

[evertking]

Beautiful!

[doco]

Thanks all!
Stinky, I have no idea what I'm doing so I probably can't claim to be a hydro guy! I'm only stumbling along because of the great advice I've been getting from the board here. The strain is Pure Power Plant which I specifically selected based on your recommendation so you have been a big part of it too!

As have many people come to think of it...I wish I had the space and the memory to personally thank all of the folks here who have helped make this what it is. C dot com rules!!

[greenboy]

hydro,, its the best,,, aqua farm 46x46 large 6 ak 47....... hydro is the new way forwored,, lets leave the soil out side for the worms,,,
Your set up looks good,, the lovly plants of coures.... hhehehehe

green boy over and out...
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[xcrispi]

Sweet Doco ,
Hut filled up in a hell of a hurry .:thumbsup:
Cant wait to see some buds in there . I did P.P.P once in sog and it produced the largest cola I have ever grown . We'll be watchin man .
Peace bro.
Crispi :jointsmile:

[Earthy Dank]

How much did that setup cost you?

[doco]

I guess about $1100 plus some man hours. It's evolved over the course of the last 8 months or so - now I'm about to outgrow it. Next grow room I do will be a semi-permanent installation to accommodate more plants (I think I can do 12 and stay within the legal limit for medical use) but that will have to wait till I move next Feb.

Put in the new 600W digital with a Hortilux Eye last night and it is much brighter - plants are very happy now. Pruned a bunch of lower non-producing branches off the bottoms and flipped them to 12/12 so now I need you all to focus your energies on females!!! These are from seed remember and it's a crap shoot but I'm fairly confident at least three are females. We'll know in a week or so....

No more pics till we see some bud! Or a least the beginnings of them...

[Earthy Dank]

I would do a good bit of prunning because those plants are gonna stretch at least a foot or two. You are definately gonna outgrow you space if you aren't careful.

[dusto2k3]

Doco, if your lookin' to get rid of that hut, I'd be in the market for it.

[doco]

Won't be till the first of the year Dusto - I'll let you know then.

I was thinking about not growing this summer but this group is starting to look predominantly male - so far only one girl and the others are looking suspect so I may be taking on the summer heat after all. I guess I have been very lucky that I have only had females before and these suspected males really piss me off and disappoint me at the same time. Guess it's just the pitfall of growing from seed.

[PharmaCan]

Doco - Those are some nice looking plants.

I've got a question for you. If one of those plants is a female, and you took a few good-sized clones from her, by the time the clones were back under the lights flowering, you would only be about three weeks behind where you are now, wouldn't you?

[doco]

That's an excellent idea PharmaCan - I thought about it too but I wonder about the size difference being a problem. I think I'm just gonna pull the three boys tonight (I pretty much positively identified them as male this morning), bypass one of the buckets and toss another plant in there that is currently in dirt. I dunno. I do know that from here on I will only use clones or feminized seeds in hydro.

On another note, I am thinking about using 10" netpots in 5 gallon buckets for the next generation farm...eliminate the clogged drain hole issues altogether. I prototyped one last night and by taking 1" off the drip ring uptake post, it work just fine. The evolution continues....

[xcrispi]

Sweet Doco ,
Late nights up scheemin -n- plannin . I tried the 6 in net pots for 5 gal. buckets and thought they were too small , 10 in. ones w/ open sides would eliminate all fears of overflow and def. be big enough .

M/F ratios a bite in the ass - sorry to hear that man . This is exactly what spurred my female bean fetish and wanting to clone . Started 30 in 2 gal. pots and got 8 females = wtf GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR . never again . W/ fem. seeds tho you cant have hardly any mistakes or stress though or they'll hermie on ya .
Holler
Crispi :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

Doco those plants look GREAT! I'm super impressed! GREAT job!!!:thumbsup:

[doco]

Thanks weedhound but I wonder if you were looking at greenboys pics? Mine are doing ok, but still in first week of flower and are nothing spectacular.

Actually as of this moment, the hut is a very lonely place....I just yanked 3 males and left a solitary girl in there by herself :( I have a Troublemaker girl that I took as a clone from my last grow that is in dirt that I'll throw in there to keep her company, once I bypass & remove one of the buckets.

So Crispi, weedhound and other interested aqua people, here is my prototype nextgen bucket style that addresses a couple of the shortcomings of the gh waterfarm. First, round buckets facilitate easy rotation of the plants without lifting. The white bucket was just handy for the prototype- I'll use black in actual use. Next, 10" netpot eliminates possibility of drain holes getting clogged in the top bucket (weedhound!), and finally I put a T in the airline to feed both the drip ring and an airstone in each bucket. I think Crispi originally came up with most of these ideas and I just stumbled on the 10" netpots...I ordered one to see how easy I could incorporate the drip ring and it was super simple to do.

[Weedhound]

Doco first time through I was looking at GB's sorry. But I went back and looked at yours and I think they look very good....happy and healthy.....ok so three are dead......beside the point. ;):) They looked great in there and I'm not making a mistake on this one.

There are a couple points.....I personally LIKE square buckets. Why? Because I can pull them out and set the top on the bottom without having to have any assistance. I do alot of this stuff alone. Anything that makes my life easier I want. Round buckets just won't work for me. The idea of not lifting is a good one.....honest....but it's not always the most practical for me. Right now I have one bucket just going on ph'd water and believe me its a ton easier to pick the bucket up and check ph then pull everything out of the bucket. Doco... I just plain want it all. :D

I spoke to my hydro guy about my rootbound issues. Turns out Mr X-C was correct in pinpointing my medium as the issue. Over the year the rocks have broken into smaller pieces which have packed out the air pockets reducing both 02 and spaces for the roots to grow. Think of it as packing sand into the bucket....that's pretty much what was happening to me and of course it sailed right over my head. That's why I have guys like X-C around. Once in awhile they come in handy. :):thumbsup: Ps I also was told by Mr X-C to increase the hole size of my buckets which I plan to do with the next set I start.

After discussion w HG.....I've settled on the hydroton and will have to just accept the dust and the fact that I can't reuse the medium. We talked about several different options including coco, vermeculite, rockwool, and mixtures of said things but ended up that his two favorite mediums for the waterfarms are higromite and hydroton. Done one....now I'll try the other. :stoned:

[doco]

I remember from your thread that you like the square buckets...I wouldn't mind them if I were in a walk-in grow room. In the hut which is 39" x 39", square buckets are awkward because after the plants get more than a foot high, I can't reach to the back two buckets easily - the floor is riddled with water tubes, etc. so I have to stand outside and they are too heavy & awkward to maintain my balance.

On the hydroton: why can't you reuse it? I thought if you gave it a bath in a diluted hydrogen peroxide solution it was fine to reuse? The red dust does suck bad the first time it's used...I'm hoping future grows with it will be better as it get washed away.

So I saw that you cook with cannabis a lot...got any favorite kooky cookie recipes to pass along?

[Weedhound]

Yes, you make a very good point about your hut....I have issues with space myself and it's much bigger than your setup so I understand what you mean and I know X-C's issues with picking things up so I'm sure you are right about trying to reach over the front to the back.....:(

I've pretty much stuck to cookies or brownies when cooking.....I've tried the firecrackers but can't seem to find the proper cooking time in a microwave....always either too much or too little. I've never tried making cannabutter because of the hassle and time.....much easier to toss some strained green in a cookie mix and heat it up.

My setup came with hydroton ....as I'm sure yours did and I tried it but couldn't keep the ph under control so switched to the higromite rocks. Of course it turned out the hydroton wasn't the problem at all.....it was my water which my hydro guy kept telling me but I wouldn't listen lol.

I'm told the hydroton is reusable but the fact that it is so light compared to the rocks plus the airy texture of them make them extremely hard to rinse off completely as opposed to the rocks which are solid. My golden rule......less work.. ;) The idea of a lighter medium sounds appealing....but I still have bad dreams about the dust and that's been my main fear in going back to them. I'll just have to buck up I guess. :cool:

PS...My hg told me you should disinfect your entire system between grows so instead of using h202 to rinse the medium I set the entire thing up and run it through that between grows. Within 48 hrs the h202 has turned to water so if there is some left behind it's no problem.

[alwayssleepdeprived]

doco I feel your pain with all the issues but once the system is dialed in hydro is worth it...I'm just about to chop my first time and even though I put my ladies through hell the finish isn't that bad

how's the ph settling up lately?

[Weedhound]

And did I mention ASD they look damn stunning? :thumbsup:

[alwayssleepdeprived]

hehe yes you did :jointsmile: I can't wait to kill them both to let the next generation move in but I'm so anxious to know the final tallies and quality ooooh it's gonna be like christmas in summer

[doco]

It's been a couple of weeks so here are some new pics from last night. They are two weeks into flower now and she really just started showing within the last few days. My previous ones were busting at the seams to burst into flower once I changed to 12/12, this PPP is taking her time but is looking like she is going to super-size it soon enough. Lots of side branching with huge potential...we shall see. Now that she has room to spread out she has taken up half the hut, even trying to encroach on the bonsai TroubleMaker on the left.

The big girl is standing about chest high even though I topped her - hopefully the stretch will be about over now while I've still got another foot or two I can raise the light.

PH is stable at 5.6 ± and the ppm is 1100 with .25/1/2 of latewoods GH method. Temps in the hut 77 and at the canopy are 82 - humidity 53% at the moment.

Gotta give StinkyAttic props for recommending the PPP - the CannaMother knows her shit!!

[Weedhound]

Looking excellent there doco. :thumbsup: Spacewise though....if you are only two weeks into flower you have a ways to go....they're just starting to grow.

[doco]

Spacewise though....if you are only two weeks into flower you have a ways to go....they're just starting to grow.

Really? My past grows (admittedly only two), once they got past the two-week flowering stretch, they had minor vertical growth and mostly just bud up. Guess we'll see - hope I have enough room for em.

[Weedhound]

Well let me look back and see if I can find a pic of my current grow or one of them....they should double or triple in size.

[Weedhound]

Ok here is a photo of the same plant in my avatar there....also a reg pic of it in my grow log...taken about 2 days ago I think. This pic of the same plant was taken about 4-5 days into 12/12 I believe. ..on 4/23/07. Believe me....all that growing did not happen in the first two weeks.....these things grow ALL the way through and from seeing how happy they are in your photo I don't see yours acting any differently. :)

[doco]

Well it has doubled in size already in the last two weeks - I know they continue to grow some but is now starting to concentrate on flowering/bud mass and for the most part I think that they are within a foot of their final height. I have about 2-2.5 feet of headroom left and I think it will be fine but I guess we will see. I was hoping that topping it would keep it smaller but it just kept growing & growing.....

I guess the quality of my problems seems to be improving!~

[Weedhound]

Yeah, they do do that.....keep growing and growing. Keep us updated! :)

[GunBarrel]

Apart from only having one female, its all going very nice Doco :)

I use a system that only bubbles the water from underneath, and wonder why you drip the water too as i seem to get an equal looking speed of growth?

You also mention dust? do i understand correctly that you mean the dust off the medium ends up in your water pipes? If this is what you mean, i get round it by washing the medium thoroughly first.

And has anyone told you to keep an eye on your airstones? I find they have a tendancy to become blocked, and i replace them half way through my grow as i have lost 2 plants from roots rotting because of no oxygen.

Keep it going though, it only really keeps costing till you get it how you want it. I ended up spending on 3 air pumps till i was happy with what i had! That cost on top of my original £1000 spent.
But to me, its all been worthwhile as you will see for yourself soon.

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A couple of pics of my last grow.

[Weedhound]

Those are some lovely plants and buds GB. :thumbsup: You are right when you say it only costs until you get what you want....then you don't care because it's great! :D

[GunBarrel]

Thank you Weedhound, they smoked lovely too :)

I now have 3 super skunk and 3 hindu kush in the same grow tent, and am hoping for similar results.

:)

[doco]

Yup, very nice GB. What size is your grow hut? I have the Hydrohut Mini so I am looking at yours and wondering if I should try 6 plants or stay with the four I am set up for.

Regarding your question about why I chose the drip system - I guess more than anything it was because I have never done hydro before and I was intrigued by the wonderful WaterFarm thread that BlueBear started. I liked the idea of being able to buy an all inclusive system since I had no idea how to build one from scratch, or even understand the concepts of why this one worked different from that one. I did integrate several modifications as suggested by Xcrispi, RacerX, WeedHound and others and now that I know how it works I could easily build one from scratch but at the time, this was the best option - for this hydronoob anyway.

Even though it is being overshadowed by the big PPP girl, I also have a bonsai TroubleMaker in the hut too. It was a cutting I took from my previous grow that I've been keeping bonsai by pruning and keeping my T5 lights quite low so it only stood a foot high (at two months old) when I flowered it. I have a phone book underneath it to level the canopy. I know it won't be a big yielder but they keep each other company and encourage one another.

PH has been taking some big dives lately - going down to 5.3 last night and again this morning so Im having to keep an eye on it again after a week of very stable PH. Probably related to flowering

[doco]

Week three of flowering and bud sites are everywhere. The big girl has continued to grow in height some but is still manageable so far. I'd love to see this plant outdoors...I'll bet it would get 10 - 15 ft. Check out the last pic to see how it dwarfs the bonsai TroubleMaker on the left. The TM may be short but it's gonna have solid branches of nugs.

[Weedhound]

They look really good doco. Do have nice of lots budsites too. Keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

[GunBarrel]

They are looking very nice indeed Doco......

My grow hut is 1.2m square, and 2.1m tall. 6 plants can be a bit of a squeeze, and getting light down to the outer edges isnt so easy (i made some reflectors). I did consider only having 4 this time round, but i happened to have 6 clones so thought 'what the hell' :)

Keep the good work going, and ill post some pics of my new grow soon...

[xcrispi]

Hey Doco ,
I caught your comment on res. temps in ?? ph thread . I know the last thing you wanna do is swiss cheese the hut any but you could try the res / contrl bukt outside the hut itself - maybe near a rooms central a/c duct . Or I freeze 2 ltr . pop bottles of water and pop em in the res while the light is on .
Thanx for the kind words w/ hydro mod. deal - I couldn't rep you anymore yet . :thumbsup: Jobs got Haze' name all over it tho . LOL . I'm in the same boat as you man , true mmj user that doesn't really need the exposure .

G/B Bro.
Crispi :jointsmile:

[doco]

Thanks bud, no prob on the mod thing....youre always helpful, friendly, knowledgeable, patient and tolerant which I think are desirable mod skills. Plus Ive seen your mad grow skills. If Bluebear was still here, I would have put his name in the hat too. Stinky was the obvious excellent choice.

For the res temps Im probably gonna just get a small chiller or iceprobe like crazywill mentioned on the other thread. A goal is to have this system be semiautomatic eventually. I do keep my res outside the hut and yes I had to poke a hole for the tubing.

The PPP is doing well, filling out it's side branches and most of the rest of the hut. In hindsight I should have topped her twice to keep her smaller. The literature said medium sized plants- this thing is huge! Taking her time filling in, seems like a slow flowering strain but the pictures I saw of Jefteks Power Plant was absolutely amazing.

The TroubleMaker (Hindu Kush x Master Kush) is maturing quickly and is gonna be gorgeous with fat nugs. I'll have pictures Monday at 4 weeks

[xcrispi]

Hey Doco ,
I have a friend on another site that had temp probs and tried a cheaper chiller deal - drill like 1 1/4in. hole and install like a button deal into the side or bottom of res. ? Is this the probe deal ? It was like close to 200.00 and didn't do a damn thing for him .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[doco]

yep, thats the one I was thinking about, thanks for the heads-up. :thumbsup:

[xcrispi]

It wasn't even in a real large res. either man , just a huge cloner .
I hollered at him since last post to make sure he got the right 1 ofter lookin at the link , there's 2 dif temp. ranges and he does indeed have the colder of the 2 . I been looking for a cheap pump powered chiller and theres no such thing so far = 350.00 - 400.00 . I'm prayin my bro. inlaw gives up on the saltwater reeftanks soon so I can nab his . LOL .
You find another cheap way out , by all means holler .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[home.grower]

Brilliant thread... Plenty of motivation in here for any budding Dro Wizz, can't wait to see the bumper harvest you get of just 4 plants... good work

[doco]

Thanks home.grower! Its down to two plants now but one of them is spreading out all over the hut so it still should be a good yield anyway - assuming they survive till harvest. I'm starting to wonder if me & hydro are like weedhound & soil - everything that can go wrong does!

So after finding that dropping pH can be associated with root rot, and reading a post from another thread, I dosed my PPP pretty heavy with h202 Saturday night - a quart of 3% in my 12 gallon system. It may have been a little too much. The pH immediately quit fluctuating and stayed rock steady the entire light cycle.

I was nervous about it and could hardly wait till next lights on to see how it took it... when they came on, she looked mostly fine but some smaller leaves at the main tops have curled down and look stressed. Overall the plant looks pretty healthy but I hope I didn't burn the root hairs too much. I did a res change last night and there was more sediment & crap in it than usual. The pH remains dead-on so at least something positive resulted. Will see how it goes. These pics are 48 hrs since the h202.

Here are a couple of pics. First 3 are the PPP and the others are of the fat little TroubleMaker Kush.

[Weedhound]

They look Great!! Still got a lot of room?

[doco]

So far, so good on the room...I can only raise the light a few more inches and some of the tops are only a foot or so from it. It's a cool tube but there is still some heat off of it. Its digital and I am overdriving it by 7% too. If she keeps going vertical at all I will have to start bending some of the tops away. In fact, I may do that anyway just to be proactive. I should have topped her twice instead of just once.

[doco]

Crispi, I am this close to getting a Prime USA 1/15 HP 750 BTU chiller for my res - it's $280 delivered. Claims it will lower the temp by 10 degrees in a 80 gal tank so it should be fine for my use.

BTW, anyone that saw "John from Cincinnati" on HBO last night - that show is set in my town and the main set (the motel) is only a few blocks from me. I see them filming around town all the time and Ive watched them do a couple of scenes...

[Earthy Dank]

So far, so good on the room...I can only raise the light a few more inches and some of the tops are only a foot or so from it. It's a cool tube but there is still some heat off of it. Its digital and I am overdriving it by 7% too. If she keeps going vertical at all I will have to start bending some of the tops away. In fact, I may do that anyway just to be proactive. I should have topped her twice instead of just once.

Thats a good idea. I noticed some of the "upside-down canoe" leave. Those are from high temps and high nutrients. I'm having that same problem... my room stay around 90*F because we have a massive pool pump that puts out so much heat... Its whatever though.. I grow sativas don't mind the heat too bad.

[doco]

Well it's been a long while since I stopped by so here's an update: the summertime hydro experiment didn't go too well for me as I was unprepared for the heat (first indoor grow was started last fall, the hydro was my third, first summer) and I got a lot of brownish root rot, initially from high res temps. It seems that my rapid pH dropping was a signal that I didn't interpret in time and when I did nuke it with H2O2 I may have overdone it. Temps were into the 90's on several occasions - 600w is a lot warmer than 400 even with the cooltube. Finally put a chiller on the res and finished the plant out. It had massive amounts of airy fluffy buds that taste & smoke great but are weird cause they are so fluffy. Here's a pic of one of them.

Finally found some Afghani Bullrider clones and grew a mother. Current (soil!) grow is 5 of them in my trusty HydroHut with a 600W. I flowered them early and didn't top these as an experiment since I have topped all my grows in the past, I wanna compare.

Anyway, just wanted to stop by and give a shout to the many folks here who helped me get started in this great hobby.