View Full Version : First time grow KC Brains Skunk #1 & White KC
JackHerer
05-03-2007, 02:30 PM
Hi All
This is my first grow seems to be going alright. I did also have some NL during germination & propogation but they all failled to make it to seedlings. WIll have to do a dedicated NL grow with the rest of my seeds as I reckon I know where I made mistakes.
These seedlings are about two weeks old and as I say it seems to be going ok but a couple have started to droop a bit since being put in the larger rockwool cubes & te NFT tank.
They are under a 250W MH bulb by Solarburst which seems to give good light. I have backed the light off a bit as the temps were getting a bit high & I thought this might be whats causing the droop. The PH in the res is 5.7 - 5.8 although when I test the PH in the tray where the plants sit it is 6.2. Not sure about my tester pen tried calibrating it but not sure if I did it correctly as I bought the most of the kit secondhand with no instructions. SO I also test the PH using a liquid test kit and it shows a nice yello equal to 6.0 on the scale.
Is it possible the plants are adjusting to the new surroundings so to speak. The whole system is on 18/6 at the moment I even switch the air & water pump of with the light. However as said the plants have just been put intot he larger cubes so the roots won't yet be in the water so if this could be a problem later due to drowning in non moving water I'll adjust that but if I can get them used to 18 hours of moving water and 6 hours still I'll get to sleep easier than with the pumps running.
Thanks for all the tips on these forums and anymore are welcomed.
JH :rastasmoke:
http://scotlandrocks.co.uk/grn/1.jpg
http://scotlandrocks.co.uk/grn/2.jpg
http://scotlandrocks.co.uk/grn/3.jpg
P.S. I added the saucer of water today to try to increase the humidity.
dusto2k3
05-03-2007, 02:32 PM
you should get that light closer, thats why they are stretching soooooo much.
JackHerer
05-03-2007, 02:40 PM
I just backed the light off. Actually the ones that are stretched happened when in the propogator in indirect light. This stopped after they were put under the MH bulb the shortest one broke throug to the surface while the light was a far away from the propogater as possible almost touching the shelf above. They haven\'t stretched much since.
However I did have the light closer about 2 foot above the tallest plant and the temp from the probe you can see on the mylar cover with the fan at max got to 85 - 90 with the door open. Thats why I backed it off last night and I was going to bring the bulb back closer in stages once the leaves started perking up a bit again..
dusto2k3
05-03-2007, 02:42 PM
word, sounds good. LoL, maybe you know best eh?
JackHerer
05-03-2007, 03:10 PM
Nah certainly don't think I know best, just giving you the score but I can see why you thought the taller ones stretched after being put under the light. One thing I'm sorting is a proper nursery cloner for propogation using standard florescents as the heat from the MH is what killed one of the NL that actually popped through.
dusto2k3
05-03-2007, 03:18 PM
no no no, i only say that cuz they are your plants and you do know "best" i was just giving a suggestion, but with that new info, i said "i guess you know best" cuz you do and i didn't!!!
floros are the way to go for seedies.
JackHerer
05-03-2007, 03:29 PM
No worries thanks for the comments. Hope you keep popping in and giving tips throughout the grow.
dusto2k3
05-03-2007, 03:35 PM
word. i'll try to keep up to date here. good luck
Weedhound
05-04-2007, 11:02 PM
jack keep a close eye on your ph. It may well be rising in response to the stress of the heat or something. It is important to keep where the plants are down to the 5.8-6.0 level....along there. I just lost some brand new seedlings I put in my setup and feel I could have changed that if I had paid more attention to my ph's quick rising. It can be sign of tissue destruction....burn....etc...
Seedlings are frigging wimps at that age.
JackHerer
05-05-2007, 12:28 AM
Welcome to my log Weedhound thanks for stopping by :thumbsup:
Just checked the PH level and in the tray its bang on 5.8 :)
As I'm trying to follow the no nutes till 5 sets of leaves checking the PH is about the most fussing I get to do on the seedlings along with panicking over the temps :( . Just keeping my fingers crossed as many as possible make it through to become decent plants.
If I get one female out of the lot I'll be satisfied, one from each strain I'll be happy & anymore will be a bonus. I'll take clones from them and set up a decent little clone / nursery for seedlings using the information in the FAQ's.
Weedhound
05-05-2007, 12:43 AM
Good to hear. I'll check back later and see how it's going along w/dusto. :)
JackHerer
05-11-2007, 11:08 AM
Alright Dusto & WH
Bit of an update as the beanlings are now 3 weeks. Not a bad bit of growth on them. They seemed to be suffering an N defficiency at the beginning of the week so I put 6ml of Formulex into the res of 12Litres water. Seemed to perk them up a bit so when I changed the res this week I started them on a low dose of the nutes I got with the kit. The Vita Link instructions were to first use 2 ml/ltr but I reduced that to 1ml/ltr of each part A & B. I have ordered some SuperThrive it should be here soon.
Seems to be enough green leaf now to handle the heat from the bulb so managed to bring the light down a lot closer. Did this by reducing the height by 4" / day. Seems to have stopped the stretching which occurred in the propogator.
Had to move the pictures to a Gallery thread:
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/115488-pics-my-grow-log.html#post1423419
JH
EDIT: Meant to add the front two & the middle left are the White KC from KC Brains the others are the Skunk #1 actually from Nirvana.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/135455d1178880814-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0009.jpg
Weedhound
05-11-2007, 01:27 PM
Jack, can I ask what are your room temps and humidity level? also do you have something you can moniter the ppms with? You will want to know how much food your plants are getting....too little will lead to poor and slow growth and too much of course will burn them. A ppm meter is the only real way to to do that. During flowering you will definitely need it.
dusto2k3
05-11-2007, 02:37 PM
Like WH said, the PPM will be important and the temp does need to be regulated within a window. High temps can also promote that stretch. But they are looking better, i think they are growing a wee bit slow. See if you can't provide that info that WH asked Temp/humid.
Looking good thought. Have you dropped that light back down yet?
Weedhound
05-11-2007, 02:48 PM
High room temps promote stretch? I didn't know that dusto. Do you happen to know why? Interesting.....
dusto2k3
05-11-2007, 03:14 PM
i dunno, but it's my experience WH. Maybe someone else can shed some light.
JackHerer
05-11-2007, 03:16 PM
Alright WeedHound
Good to see you have time to be dragged away from your own Pot Porn Log :thumbsup:
The temps are still 77 - 79 during the day with the light on and the door open. The hours where the light is on and the door is shut is up to 88 at the external probe which lies on top of my tank cover or 79 - 82 at the actual thermometer on the shelf above. I got some two part additive product which you add to water & sugar to generate CO2 so when flowering comes along I thought I would try that out during the high temp periods of the day as most things I have read on CO2 advise to get the temps up to around 96.
The humidity is strange. I might sound stoned probably am :stoned: but I'm sure that changes even within the small area of the tray where the plants are growing depending on where I place the water dish. My photographs don't do the one on the rear right S1B much justice it looks pretty lush it's 5th set of leaves are about ready to spread & the 6th are just showing, while the bottom set have now developed into a branch with its first set of parralel matching leaves. Which is a bit of a contrast to the front row & I was putting this down to the different strain. But at the front the Humidity meter was at 40 and actually getting lower as it got hotter, I moved it to the back where the water dish used to be last night and the reading was 50 this morning. So I moved the water dish to the front this morning and during the day the humidity dropped to 40 at the back. But I would say the front to plants actually darkened up a bit so a few minutes ago when I checked the PH I moved the meter back to the front & I am going to check if the humidity has gone back up since it is now by the water dish again. Think I might need to add another water dish and maybe damp cloths to increase the humidity.
Not sure but I think the on middle left KC1 is suffering from being hat close to in front of the fan, but if I move it back to the front left then the nice S1B suffers as the breeze doesn't reach it.:(
Checked the roots when I changed the res the other day and they looked pretty good each one had many developed roots several inches out into the spreadr mat from their own rockwool block. The ones closest to the drain end are already growing towards the res tank and was wondering whether I should ease them back on to the tray or just let them grow into the res tank.
I have bought a TDS pen on e-bay last weekend so another week and it should arrive. Then I'll be asking how to use it.
JH
Weedhound
05-11-2007, 03:24 PM
Sounds good....Both Markass and I have been having humidity issues these days. When I asked around I was told to try to keep my humidity level down to the 30's to avoid mold issues but my plants are in flowering and that may not be the same as for veg growth. I would doubt that you would want it above 45 rh however......dusto? Thoughts?
good job on the tds pen. Once you have all the bugs worked out you'll be getting some good wild growing going. :thumbsup:
dusto2k3
05-11-2007, 03:36 PM
umm, iin veg, i've seen reccomendations of 55%. There are some growing vidoes that say that. But in SD, i dont really have an issue, its drier that a suns ass here. But in flower, you do need to keep it down so as not to have that mold. I think that even with high RH, if you hav good air circ, you can avoid it as well.
JackHerer
05-11-2007, 05:03 PM
Alright Dusto thanks for keeping an eye out. :thumbsup:
You both have me convinced to sort out decent extraction for the heat. I'll ave to make it wait 3 weeks though as the car is due its service & MOT. I have seen 100mm inline fans on ebay for £25 do you reckon that would cope. ALso some of the cab ideas around here have got me thinking. Rather than keep knocking holes ina closet I will need to repair at some point would it be better to get a large steel cabinet and mount the extraction on that. A bit like that aeroponic ready made kit in one of the other topics.
JH
Weedhound
05-11-2007, 06:08 PM
A suns ass.....lol. :D
JackHerer
05-11-2007, 10:25 PM
Missed that one dusto LOL :stoned:
I'll keep an eye on the RH although it seems to be quite dry unless I use extra water. Bit surprised as my area isn't traditionally hot and damp can be a problem. I'll make sure when I switch to the 12/12 with the HPS bulb to remove any extra water.
I guess its alright for the roots to grow into the res tank?
Weedhound
05-12-2007, 02:26 AM
Sorry Jack, I meant to answer that and forgot....probably blazed, lol. If you can keep that from happening (ie not damage roots getting them out) I would if possible....eventually they'll start taking over and clogging things up. As they get into flowering certain parts of the root system will die off (normally) and that's where you will get into trouble.
JackHerer
05-18-2007, 10:31 AM
Hi Guys
Weekly update time still can't add images direct to the log so the have again been uploaded to the gallery
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/115488-pics-my-grow-log.html#post1435385
Think I have found KC1 problem it was bent a bit as a wimpy weedling when being put into the tank and covered with the mylar. Looks as though this has caused a problem Will let it keep going until I can sex the plants for now.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/136638d1179483326-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0001.jpg
The Skunk #1 seems a lot more bushy plant overall & they are looking like smal shrubs.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/136641d1179483326-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0005.jpg
Overall they still seem to me to be doing not to bad. Haven't received my TDS pen yet :mad:
If it doesn't arrive by Monday it will be a PayPal claim & I'll get another.
When will these be ready to take cuttings and whats the score in doing so?
Was tinking about vegging untill either the end of May or utill they are 12" tall. Although they are beginning to elbow each other for room & on your log Weedhound you mention your going to stop growing large plants. Any ideas on when I should start flowering them after I get the TDS pen.
JH
JackHerer
05-18-2007, 10:54 AM
Spoke to soon the TDS pen & Pocket microscope arrived in the post just after hitting the submit button. :)
Now for the big question what level should the reading be kept to?
JH
Weedhound
05-19-2007, 01:54 AM
That skunk looks GREAT! Can't quite tell what I'm seeing in the photo of the stem of the other plant. What kind of problem are you having? The size of the plant compared to the other one or....?
JackHerer
05-19-2007, 11:38 AM
Cheers WH. Yes the KC1 just ooks like the runt of the White KC strain but the stem looks like it is pinched.
I just changed the res and added full strength nutes. The PPM readin is 679 what is the range I should be aiming to keep it in?
JH
Weedhound
05-19-2007, 12:51 PM
Exactly how old are they and what nutes are you using? Are you using tap water or RO or...?? With mine I generally start them pretty young on about 200ppm (first set of leaves) but I use ro water so some part of the number is CalMag. I try to raise the number 100ppm a week but watch the plants as they are all a little different and things like heat etc...may affect absorption of the nutes somewhat.....they may drink more water than usual blah blah.
Usually they are at about 700-800 when I change to bloom nutes which I generally do when they are about five weeks old (from seed) :)
JackHerer
05-19-2007, 04:02 PM
The plants are now 4 weeks from seed & they have been in the NFT system for 2.5 weeks. I put 15 litres of distilled water into the resevoir when it gets changed.
The nutes I'm using are Vita Link Part A & B. Last week which was the first full week of nutes I had the nutes just over a third strength, then added 3ml of Superthrive when it arrived. The instructions on the nutes are to use 3ml of each A & B per ltr so this week I added 40ml of each, 3 ml of Superthrive & also 20ml of Cannazyme which is meant to help with nute uptake and cleaning of dead root material. The nutes instructions also say to use the two part mix for the first 2 weeks of flowering & then to use the Vita Link Buddy which also came with the kit.
I also have Formulex which I think is a single mix alternative to the two part Vita Link nutes.
Changing to flowering 5 weeks fro seed sounds pretty good to me. :thumbsup: do you wait for pre flowering to show or just change to a 12/12 cycle from your own experience. If the plants are at a reasonable size for vegging then I might switch to flowering cycle myself at the end of next week. :rasta:
Weedhound
05-19-2007, 07:45 PM
I'm not familiar with those nutes so can't really help you with that one. I personally don't wait for preflowers.....my first grow I aimed to but quit after about 6 weeks.....ended up with plants getting WAY too big so didn't do that again. Sizewise it's just too much of a hassle. By not waiting it takes a little longer for them to show sex; maybe day 12 instead of day 7 for instance but it works for me. :)
JackHerer
05-19-2007, 08:02 PM
Yea I haven't seen those nutes mentioned on here before just happened to be the ones that came with the kit I bought. Will just have to see how they go and if need be change when I have to buy nutes to one which is used by folks here.
Think I will change to the HPS light and flower cycle next Friday that will be them at 5 weeks and from what Ive read on your log about size issues it would probably best suit my system to not have them to big.
Have you managed to try any of that plant you harvested yet?
Weedhound
05-19-2007, 11:20 PM
Yes we tried some last night....my hubby thinks its the bees knees...I quite like it but can't say its the best thing I ever had. It does have a nice smooth flavor that we both like too. :thumbsup: It very may well be because of the early harvest that we aren't getting the full effect....lots of trichs but the second layer of them is all clear. .....that's why I'm letting the rest get as crusty as possible . :stoned:
JackHerer
05-20-2007, 01:39 PM
Lucky hubby not only can the missus bake some lovely brownies & cakes, but you can also grow the ingredients. :thumbsup:
Sounds like the plant is still a better buzz than the eurorocky available here, although I also prefer an indica couchy stone when I'm chillin. :stoned:
I'm just hoping I get some decent buds out of my plants so I can cure them properly like the imported buds I get fom my friend down south & like I used to get in the eighties over in NA instead of the wet stringy buds of average homegrown that folk around where I live try to palm of as buds which are heavy in resin.
Had a rethink about my cycle timing when I got up today. Checked the plants and they have grown from 7 - 8" on Friday to 10 - 11" this morning. Going to set the timers & change the bulb tonight so tomorrow the plants should wake up to 12/12. Can I still take cuttings if I do this or should I leave the system on Veg until I take the cuttings. Would liked to have waited until sex showed before taking the cutting but no big issue if I can't & I'll just throw the ones which are taken from males which are identified later.
Weedhound
05-20-2007, 07:44 PM
Jack you are venturing into something I know nothing about....cloning. Never tried it (so far) and never even seen a true clone in real life. Yes, I'm very stunted, I'm sorry, lol.
The difference in ganja are amazing aren't they? So many different strains, types etc. That's part of what makes it so much fun....trying all the different things. :jointsmile:
Ps the other main thing in growing your own is having FRESH weed available. Having always bought before (and of course you don't know how old what you bought is) the first time I smoked some fresh grown quality weed I was completely blown away. You will be too. ;)
JackHerer
05-20-2007, 10:05 PM
lol can't imagine how much of a midget I am if your growing experience is stunted. :S2:
Ive done a bit of reading so far on it pretty sure I got the process down with the rooting gel the propogator, wilt preventer & making the cut under water. From what I have read I should be able to take cuttings from all of the plants in one go setting them into a cup of water for each plant & then sit at the table making the diagonal cut & puting them into the rockwool medium. SOme bits I have read say you can take cuttings during flowering others say the plants needs a period of vegging to recover. Having to think about it a bit sooner than expected as the plants seem o be stretching a bit over the last two days fighting for the light. I'll leave it tonight & get the cuttings done tomorrow maybe someone with experience of cloning will chime in recomen whether to hold of flowering.
Ive bought all my stash for the last 28 years ( Ok I own up to being one of the oldies around :jointsmile: ) although it has been in a few countries & some have definitely been better than others. Nice to get a change & I think I will be giving a big thumbs up to fresh buds of my own if all goes right. As I get more grows under my belt there is defnitely some sativa's I want to grow for the trip down memory lane. Over here is pretty sh*te for commercial smokables really. You get this eurorocky which is 20% real hash, 20% some sh*t they couldn't sell last week, 40 % henna wax & 20 % plastic shopping bags to hold the rebind together. The herb market depends on location & main source of supply some folk I know only sell commercial quality nice & cured buds, but could be pretty old really others even frieds I know who grow have a tendency to get bit by the greed bug and sell wet buds. But thats not as bad as some prats who actually steam it over the kettle. Another benfit of growning is getting totally out of the commercial dealer scene.
Weedhound
05-20-2007, 10:25 PM
The only two things I know about clones are that they like humidity and they like warm temps. That's it. Fini....;)
I believe i may have tried some of the plastic bag and henna wax weed you mention. Our suppliers around here .....when you can get anything....are pretty much the mexican brick elephant stomped on stuff thats full of crushed seeds etc. The thing is I know there are tons of secret growers just like me that are doing the same thing I'm doing. We need to UNITE!! :thumbsup:
Besides having weed when I need it..which may be part of the dealer issue really....getting away from the whole dealer thing in general is HUGE to me. The worrying, the waiting, the wondering,the paranoia, the rip offs blah blah blah all completely suck and I don't miss it at all. ;)
PS....shhhh you arent the only oldie hobbling around here.... :D
invision
05-20-2007, 11:52 PM
when it comes to something being easy i take that road cause i have no patience for mixing this and that and so on.
so i found water cloning, there is nothing expensive required, nothing to mix or add, simply take a cutting and place the stalk in water and thats it.
i will admit its a slow ass method taking 3 weeks before a clone has roots but i found if you add a aquarium air pump to provide oxygen to the stalk the roots come in much faster at about 10-14 days.
try both ways if you have the 10 bucks to spare for a air pump and stone and see what you like better.
JackHerer
05-21-2007, 12:57 AM
LOL Good to hear WH :jointsmile:
Hi Invision thanks for the info, the process taking time is no problem in fact the longer it takes is better for me as I would need to set up another veg area. Can you tell me if its alright to do it to plants in the first week of being put into the flower cycle?
JackHerer
05-21-2007, 09:53 PM
Well went for it today on the cuttings. Used the root gel & meium method as thats the one I have done the most reading on. Left the plants in 18/6 veg cycle & will change it now on Friday again give them a chance to recver from any stress.
Like the sound of the Co-op WH, I'm going to help a friend set-up if I'm successful with these clones & this grow the plan is that we should be rotating harvests.
Weedhound
05-21-2007, 10:20 PM
Jack do us some clone photos when you can.....:)
JackHerer
05-22-2007, 11:17 AM
Took some pictures of the cuttings this morning for you Weedhound as usual uploaded them to the pic gallery. :jointsmile:
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/115488-pics-my-grow-log.html#post1441000
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137183d1179830728-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0002.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137184d1179830728-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0003.jpg
Ive probably made loads of mistakes but I took the cuttings from new growth shots at the bottom of each plant, probably left to much leaf growth on each one. Put them into cups of water labelled for each plant then using another bowl held each in turn under water, made the diagonal cut, dipped them into baby bio's roota liquid & then put it into the rockwool cube. The rockwool is soaked in PH'd water with more water dripped inside the propogater to help raise the humidity. The propogator isn't under direct light at the moment but as I'm looking for root growth rather than plant growth I'm hoping for today anyway the idirect light and the heat of the veg room will do. DIdn't seem to kill them of last night anyway & I am a bit caught out by the timing, will look for some flouro's today.
The only reaction from the plants is they seemed to have taken a serious stretch over night & have now hit the 12 " mark. Really going to have to think about starting flowering. If they can grow to a further 3 times the height my exisitng light probably wouldn't produce decent light at the middle & base of the plants. Unless anyone jumps in with a warning today to say hold off then I am going to switch the timers over tonight.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137186d1179831003-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0005.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137187d1179831003-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0006.jpg
Weedhound
05-22-2007, 12:25 PM
Yeehaw those look happy!! They will indeed at LEAST double...more likely triple by the time you are done. Flowering is when you really see some explosive growth.
Your "clone dome' looks good....clones looks happy. :) I'll have to try that cloning thing one day but i'm sure it will be an ugly scene at my house.....slaughtered clones everywhere until I figure it out. ;)
JackHerer
05-22-2007, 09:45 PM
Cheers WH :) thought I might have given them a shock when I saw the stretch in the morning. If I am going to end up large bushes like you have in your log I guess I will need to consider more lights. Will see how it goes once I get them to display the gender.
From what you have said in another log about the slaughter of seedlings ;) a few wilting cuttings would only be a mere bloodbath ;). Seriously you should try it some day the process seems more intimidating than it was in practice & just a few spliffs before the surgery helps steady the shakes & prevent a slasher fest on current babies being grown. :stoned:
If the clones are still looking like that in the dome in a couple of days then I reckon it will have been successful.
JackHerer
05-26-2007, 11:04 AM
Week 5 update the plants have been on 12/12 for 4 days. Still using the 2 part veg nutes as recommended in there instructions. Plants are drinking 5 - 8 ltrs of water every two days from the amount the res level decreases over the same time. Been adding back the same amount with balanced nutes added & ph balanced although the nute PPM on the res seems to still be dropping. They seem pretty hungry so would it be better to make the solution being added heavy in nutes or wuld that run the risk of nute burn before the added solution mixes fully with the res.
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/115488-pics-my-grow-log.html#post1447505
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137967d1180176519-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0002.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137968d1180176519-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0003.jpg
The clones seem to be surviving also although there is not yet any roots showing through the bottom of the rockwool. There is also some yellowing on some of the leaf tips. Any ideas of how to deal with that?
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/137969d1180176519-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0004.jpg
Weedhound
05-26-2007, 01:34 PM
Wow,those look GREAT! Nice clones too. Your plants have really filled out and look extremely happy. They'll be large bushes in flower all right....good job. :thumbsup:
JackHerer
05-26-2007, 02:48 PM
Thanks WH:jointsmile:
I reckon I will need to add more light but will wait untill I get an idea of how many confirmed females there is.
Do you know what could be causing the yellowing of the leaf tips as it seems to also be happening to the main plants on a couple of fan leaves, there is also a redish purple vaining thas appearing on some of the branches & main stems. There was a PH fluctuation the other day. The nutes PPM dropped quite rapidly from the 679 & is now between 200 -300. If its a deficiency what additives would you recommend.
Since putting them on 12/12 they have been racing each other to the light generally I adjust the chains to a 4" distance during the day & by the next morning the middle plant has grown till the leaves just touch the bulb. This has resulted in some burning on the leaves closest. The tallest plants are 20 " now thats a growth of 8 inches since wednesday.
Caduceo
05-26-2007, 05:06 PM
my plants have not grown that big in 20 days of growth :O they are still pretty small. I wonder what I am doing wrong.
JackHerer
05-26-2007, 05:46 PM
Hi Caduceo
Thats why I was wondering was there a fix for you in that nutes FAQ as when I started my log both of our plants were looking about the same stage, but from your posts somehow your plants have yet to make the full jump into veg phase.
Once I added the very low dose of nutes and got rid of what looked like an N deficiency mine really took of.
Weedhound
05-26-2007, 06:46 PM
Jack could you update my on what nutes you are using, what your ppms are, and all the other cool details?
Weedhound
05-26-2007, 06:49 PM
I know when I went to bloom stage my plants took a big jump and needed some fair increase in their ppms but I also changed over to bloom nutes at the same time. They do alot of growing at this stage so I'm wondering...but I'm not sure because I'm just not familiar with the Vita Link nute....the ph going off can certainly cause an issue.....did the plants have none of that yellowing before that?
If your ppms are dropping then you need more....the plants are eating it....sounds pretty much like what I experienced when going to 12/12.
JackHerer
05-26-2007, 09:07 PM
Cheers Weedhound I'll take the readings & post the info tomorrow as the room is in dark period just now.
The leaves were all clear yesterday but I had a low PH issue between Thurs evening & Friday afternoon when I finally got it balanced back to 5.8 - 6.0. It was high at 6.6 on Thurs morning so when I added back the water I used a 1/3 of a ml PH down from past experience this should have been the right amount but by the afternoon the PH was down to 4.2. I use plain water to bring my PH levels back up which took an extra 3ltr.
Will check in with the rest tomorrow & see if I can get a picture without the HPS on.
Weedhound
05-26-2007, 10:13 PM
Yes that sounds about right.....keep a very close eye on your ph....the end all in hydro. :thumbsup: Once the plants have stabilized ph wise you can start upping your nutes....go slow and watch the ph. If the ph starts to rise quickly then you've put in too many nutes but if they are snarfing down the number you probably won't have a problem with it.
JackHerer
05-27-2007, 11:12 AM
Morning WH thanks for the help.
Checked the manufacturer link on the nute bottles of Vita Link which is HydroGarden.com. From a general google search the nutes seem to be well regarded. I noticed though that the Vita Link Buddy is an additive not a general nute so I currently don't have any bloom nutes so will have to get some.
The PH this morning was slightly down again at 5.6 and the nute PPM's were 216. Added back another 4 ltrs with .2 ml approx PH Down, that should balance out the water being added with the slightly low PH of the res & I will check again in a couple of hours to confirm this. Added 15 ml of each of the A + B nutes, this is 3 ml more than advised for the 4 ltrs so maybe this will bring the overall PPM's back up a bit.
This is the burning caused I think from the light being to close which again the middle plant was about touching this morning. Have lifted it to 6" above & will try to keep it there. At this point I can hold me hand under without feeling it to hot.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/138100d1180262710-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0001.jpg
These are the pics of the yellowing tips. From the Nute FAQ this could be a few things including a PH imbalance I think.
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/138101d1180262710-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0007.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/138102d1180262710-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0008.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/138103d1180262710-pics-my-grow-log-dscf0009.jpg
I noticed from the pic you posted WH at
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/grow-log/137899d1180133402-weedhounds-sort-grow-log-000_0650.jpg
That a couple of your own branches are showing the same reddish purple is this something you have dealt with or quite normal.
Weedhound
05-27-2007, 03:07 PM
You have a good eye Jack...I would say in those plants it isn't normal but is something caused by my rootbound issues where certain roots can't uptake the nutes as normal. In some plants the purple stems ARE normal but usually it's pretty consistent throughout the plant and in that photo you can see that part of the stem is green and part of it purple-red rather than evenly colored and not the same with each stem of the plant. Some are green and some aren't. Also towards the end of a plants life it will start pulling stored nutes in the plant and using them to flower with with they need the most energy ....especially with the root issue (groan).
You plants look very happy aside from the burned spots there.....keep that light back. :)
JackHerer
05-28-2007, 03:59 PM
Thanks Weedhound :) but more likely because I drool over the pictures of buds on the site for hours:S5:
The reddish on my doesn't look drastic but it was similar as when they were beanlings & perked up after a low dose of nutes.
The Nute FAQ has it down as either and N or phosphorus deficiency if anything so hoping its a side effect of the overall nute PPM's dropping sharply and as I bring it back up it will clear.
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/83846-nutrients.html
Weedhound
05-28-2007, 05:27 PM
Yes it should....watch your ph.
I love looking at all the gorgeous buds on this site too. :D
JackHerer
05-30-2007, 10:53 PM
Bit of an update on flowering. All beginning to show although a few yet don't look definitive although some are looking male to me. The photos are very close up as none of the buds or balls shown are bigger than 1 mm.
Still not letting me add phto's here even though I have the required 50 posts so still have to use the log gallery http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/115488-pics-my-grow-log.html#post1453965
I havent added copies here as in order to see the flowering it needs the full size image which would make this page stretch to much.
JackHerer
06-01-2007, 11:53 AM
Weekly update plants are now 6 weeks old & have been on 12/12 for 10 days.
Looks like they have all showed there sex now & these ones look like the females.
Pic order is:
KC2
S1D
S1A
Sorry the pic of KC2 doesn't show the pistils as clear as possible but there does appear to be pistils coming fom the nodes on the small new shoots but not yet at the nodes joining the main stem.
JackHerer
06-01-2007, 12:01 PM
These ones look like the males or appear to have a bunch of coconuts at the nodes anyway.
Apologies for the poor focus on KC1.
If you can confirm that these are males WH I'll chop them down ASAP. If I chop them can I leave the rockwool block & roots in the tray untill the next res change or do I need to remove them straight away. I was also thinking of shifting the females about a bit on the tray to get them right under the light.
The pic order is:
KC1
KC3
S1B
S1C
Weedhound
06-02-2007, 01:25 AM
Ok the first male photo I can't tell...too blurry. The other 3 are definitely male. Get them out like...yesterday. I'd spray them gently down with water when you remove them from the room to prevent any possible pollen from getting to your females. They seem in pretty darn good shape for 10 days if you know what I mean. :eek:
In your female pics again in the first one I can't be sure but the other two are definitely female. :thumbsup:
hows.your.roof
06-02-2007, 01:30 AM
depends on strain & where you are you are at in your grow. i usually use my pen as a gauge of how much nutrient plants are taking from solution. from there i adjust accordingly
JackHerer
06-02-2007, 01:15 PM
They seem in pretty darn good shape for 10 days if you know what I mean. :eek:
LOL Guess thats why the ladies have been flashing their pistils at them for the last couple of days. :giggity:
Choped down the males & gave them a good misting using a spray can. It doesn't quite look the full hedge in the room anymore & I can see now where having that many plants has caused them to stretch a bit during this flowering stage especially with S1C hogging the limelight (insert just like a male comments here :jointsmile:). Tried lifting out one of the males rockwool blocks but its pretty well stuck to the spreader mat. Although I could use a knife to cut out the sections where they are I don't think I will be able to move the ladies around :(
Will the Cannazym cope with the roots dying or is it likely to cause rot problems.
Sorry about the cuople of fuzzy images I have a nerve thing that makes pics a bit of hit & hope.
Weedhound
06-02-2007, 05:53 PM
I use the cannazym and really like it....I think it will help for you as well. A friend of mine has large buckets that she uses and she plants a few plants in each bucket.....one is always a male and she just cuts it at the stem and leaves the roots also. Haven't seen her have a problem with it but I'd keep an eye.
You asked about topping in another thread...I'm sure you are aware that since you have turned them to 12/12 no topping now. Has to be done in the veg cycle. Or at least that's the way I've always learned it I am going to top mine in a few days and I will take photos as you asked but keep in mind my camera sucks so i won't be able to get real close.....but should be able to show you what I do. :) It's very simple and does help keep your plant shorter and increase the yield. You might run a search on FIM technique and LST technique on the forums as well. Those are two other things you can do to increase the yield on your plants. LST you may even want to do with the ones you have now.....it can be done at any time. ;)
JackHerer
06-02-2007, 06:06 PM
I'll have a look at the roots dailly & if I see any browning & slime affecting the existing females I'll use a pallet knife to slice out the 4 male rockwool blocks.
That was in your grow log some good info there :thumbsup: & I regularly read it although I don't have the experience to comment much yet. Will be good to see how you go about the topping & I'll do those searches.
It was for next grow of those clones I took that I am thinking about trying it out. I'll probably just grow these ones straight to get the idea of how they grow. But if I try LST in an NFT tray I was thinking there might be problems with the rockwool block trying to tip over. Bit more confidence & I'll give all these techniques a bash.
Weedhound
06-02-2007, 06:17 PM
All good things come with time......you're doing very well so I'm sure you'll do fine with some new techniques....seems to me you study up before you attempt something rather than just do it and then discover you've done it wrong....that's definitely the way to go imo. :jointsmile:
JackHerer
06-08-2007, 12:14 PM
Week 7 update 17 days in flower, not the most rapid change Ive seen during the grow. Plants are now on full bloom nutrients with PPM's of 810 measured today. I'm really hoping S1A stops growing in height soon as its about 4' tall now.:wtf:
The Pic order is:
Pic 1 & 2 = KC2
Pic 2 = S1D
Pic 3 = S1A
Got a few doubts KC2 might be a hermie since pic 2 shows what might be male, but if she is then its not turned that way but been so since the start of flowering. Although the bits on her that look male don't really resemble the clusters of balls that was on the male plants. Don't really want to kill her as its the last one I have of that strain.:(
Going to start using the bud additive next wednesday.
Other things I am looking at getting are:
400W or 600W additional light not sure the 250W is enough light.
Some Canna PK 13/14 & Canna Boost in order to boost the buds.
Any thoughts on whether these will be worthwhile additions to my set-up.
Weedhound
06-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Couldn't get a super look at photo two..but I do see what you mean so keep a good eye there as it could be male nanners; I'm just not sure.
Jack your curled leaf edges kind of concern me.....are you having heat issues in your room?
More light....always better imo... the only problem is more HID light.....more heat. I haven't used those cannazym products so can't help you with those.
JackHerer
06-08-2007, 03:38 PM
At the top of the plants there is a heat issue I think WH from them being to close:(, but its getting to the point where I will need to remove the shelf the light is hanging from and add some wood straps to the ceiling in order to get the light further away. I have the temp probe hanging about a third of the way from the top of the plant and the temp is 79. Thats why I was thinking maybe the 600W and get the light further away from the top of the plant. I think that will keep the temps about the same within the room in general where is not directly beneath the light. I have put a hole in the ceiling but not got the inline fan yet because I would have to have it wire in professionally & I am also thinking of maybe getting a grow tent. If I got the tent I could add things like the inline fan & carbon filters without needing an electrician to run wiring through the attic insulation.
Yea I'm also concerned there nanners :( next time might have better pics. There seems to be only a few nodes where they are & apart from one node which has two it seems to be only one at each point. I was thinking maybe give them a day or two & if nothing like pistils show then pick them all off, keeping doing so to any others that appear. If I then harvest it first & comparitivly early in the cycle I might manage to avoid any male flowers popping their pollen everywhere. With the NFT system its not possible to move the plant so its either try the above or kill it.:chainsaw::sadcrying
I'm bidding on some 600W so either get that or another one, but I'll leave the additives for a couple of weeks & if I'm feeling well off or happy because KC2 has defnitely decided to not go pre-op :) I'll get them then.
JackHerer
06-13-2007, 07:10 AM
Couple of pics of the ladies in my closet :). S1A is a bit of a tall girl :jointsmile:
Weedhound
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
They look very good jack. Any more hermie looking issues?
FreeVenice
06-13-2007, 10:34 AM
I'm going to go back and read, but in case you didn't say. How long were those under Veg. growth?
JackHerer
06-13-2007, 11:51 AM
Thanks WH, I picked of all the suspected bits, when I poped them later in another room they simply had white stringy bits in them that could have been pistils. There is a couple of bits on some of the branch flowers that could be either way so watching what happens with them. Would it be normal if it did hermie to grow female flowers & males nanners in the same branch node? I'm feeling confident enough with KC2 that I have ordered those Canna additives I mentioned. They are meant to increase bud mass and enhance the end flavour.
I'll see if I can get some better pics.
Without looking back myself FreeVenice they took 2 weeks to get out of beanling phase, then I vegged for 3 weeks untill they were five weeks old. I was going to leave them a bit longer but the average height was already a foot. If you look at the older pics when there was seven in there it was a bit of a hedge. However when I switched over from the MH to HPS bulb it was a race each day to see which plant could touch the bulb. I wouldn't put that many in my set-up again but got caught out with a 100% germination rate & all but the NL's survived the propogator.
hydrocannabis
06-13-2007, 12:50 PM
wow very nice grow. but what is in the coke bottels. Is that co2 or somthin.
JackHerer
06-13-2007, 01:07 PM
Thanx HydroCannabis, yes thats an adaption of a link I found on here, the only thing that was wrong in the info was the claim Co2 is lighter than air. All the info I have read otherwise states Co2 is heavier than air so thats why I hang them. Basically you pierce holes in the top of the bottle tops & make your Co2 mix up in the bottle. You have to watch the mix strength & don't hang them directly over the plants as there is a risk of frothing.
There is a lot of good pro & con points regarding Co2 on threads here in the forums, but the only thing I can say for sure from experience of what I have seen. Is that the Co2 seems prevent the room heating up as quickly. I know this doesn't make sense with regard to the greenhouse gasses debate, but I know my temps stay lower when I am using the Co2.
FreeVenice
06-14-2007, 09:44 AM
Great job, those things are going to be so big. . . do you plan on adding more light?
JackHerer
06-14-2007, 12:08 PM
Cheers FreeVenice, I have had good help along the way from Weedhound & Dusto so props to them. :thumbsup:
I bought a 600W HPS on ebay the other night while on a spree so I am waiting for that to arrive. Going to start by switching the light over to the 600W & monitor my temps, if they stay low enough I will add the 250W back in giving a total of 850W HPS. If I can't add the 250W back in then the 600W on its own should be a decent increase.
JackHerer
06-14-2007, 12:11 PM
An issue I have at the moment is due to the height of S1A aka (Big Bessie) I can't slide the NFT tak in and out the closet to chenge the res. Is it all right to pump out as much as possible then add back water conditioned on a per 5ltr bottle basis?
Weedhound
06-14-2007, 06:53 PM
How much water will be left that you can't get to? That's usually what I do with my waterfarms...pump the extra out.... and there is always about an inch that is left....I never worry about it. I do use h202 though every other day to fight of pythium, algae etc so that may help keep the older water from causing problems in my setup....just guessing.
JackHerer
06-14-2007, 08:25 PM
That would be about what I'm left with or maybe sligthly less. I can't use any H2O2 product now as I have started with the Canna Boost which arrived today. It has a warning not to use H2O2, I think because it already contains it maybe. I haven't ever seen algae build up in my tank, but I reckoned that was because I sealed it from light & have an air pump in it. It has always been completely changed at max every 10 days so not sure how it will play with old water.
Weedhound
06-15-2007, 03:58 AM
I use the cannazym for the roots and it says the same thing about the h202....something about beneficial bacteria or something....don't ask me.
I don't think I would worry about a small amount of older water....like i say there is always some in mine....even when changing over to bloom nutes or whatever and I've never had a problem. (knock on wood :) )
JackHerer
06-15-2007, 10:44 AM
Cool WH yours seem to thrive so I reckon I'm safe.:)
Regular weekly update plants are now 8 weeks old & at 23 day of flower (bit of an audit of a day on last week because I was late with the update the week before).
They are now on full bloom nutes (Vita Link Bloom) + Cannazym + Vita Link Buddy + Canna Booster (arrived yesterday), total PPM is 910.
The PH level was 6.1 this morning so watching & will probably need an adjusting amount of PH'd water added this afternoon.
Still keeping an eye on KC2 for hermie issues, is it possible for male nanners & female flowers to develop on the same branch node?
Pics are:
Pic 1 = the top centre stem of KC2
Pic 2 = the top of S1D didn't want to leave her out.
Pic 3 = the top of one of the branches on S1A (Is that trichs I see developing?) The fan blew the flower out of the way as I clicked.
Bree1978
06-15-2007, 01:26 PM
Wowzer, I don't know how I missed this log....maybe I cruised right by it because it's hydro...but nice looking plants. (bree pulls up a chair to watch, doesn't have anything to say but NICE!)
:jointsmile: Bree
I don't know about your nanner q, my hermie developed them in thier own spot ie didn't share same branch, but same node.
JackHerer
06-15-2007, 03:50 PM
Cheers Bree pull up a deckchair by the pool.:)
Heres the spliff :joint1: cold ones are in the fridge.
Weedhound
06-15-2007, 04:44 PM
lol Jack....you're a good host. Your buds are looking very good. :thumbsup:
I'm afraid I don't know the answer to the hermie q either....sorry.
JackHerer
06-15-2007, 05:34 PM
I'll just have to keep an eye on them, but as it single round pods at the base of a couple of flowers I'm hoping its just more female pistils about to form.
Saving a seat at the top table during the smoke testing for yourself WH :smokebong:
Shovelhandle
06-15-2007, 10:35 PM
Very nice photos of the herb, JH.
I'm way behind on this thread too, but if WH is here then it looks like it's worth catching up. : )
Shovelhandle
JackHerer
06-22-2007, 12:17 PM
Cheers SH
Week 9 update 30 days into flower.
Not much change this week Bessie(S1A) has finally slowed down in height growth @ just under 6'. Finally got the 600W HPS yesterday so thats now in the room. Temps have gone way up, not much can be done about it for this grow, so using the Co2 mixes to enhance the Co2 content as that says it works better in high temps.
Do the flowers continue to grow? or is the current amount of flowers in last weeks pictures likely to be the full yield of buds that will come from the plant?
Weedhound
06-25-2007, 03:33 AM
Oh Jack you have a long way to go with that....the yield will increase the last few weeks the most and yes, they will continue to grow all right. New photos when you can.....:)
JackHerer
06-27-2007, 10:29 AM
Thanks for that info Weedhound :) I was a bit concerned last week that the bud growth had stopped:confused: & would only be existing flowers that became the buds.
Its now the 35th day of flowering both strains are meant to be finished about 50 days of flowering so by my calculations this is the 3rd to 2nd last week. I have started the Canna PK 13/14, but I also was thinking of flushing for 2 weeks before harvest. SHould I switch next week to PH'd water only again?
Some bud pics, happily already been a bit more growth :D. The Skunk #1 look really frosty even the stems are like super glue when you have to touch them. The White KC hasn't got close to the amount of trichs :wtf:, but I think this maybe due to the height of the light to accommodate the other plants.
JackHerer
06-27-2007, 10:34 AM
Another couple of pics. The last one shows some more of the browning on the leaves. I have read a fair bit on here that says towards the end of the flowering this happens to plants & have basically treated it as that since the rest of the plant seems to be doing well. If this is not the case but a problem what should I be doing to fix it?
Weedhound
06-27-2007, 03:04 PM
The larger fan leaves will lighten but not like your photo. The burned tips are the very beginning of nute burn.....what are your numbers? These spots....looks almost like a water burn or insects perhaps? I'm not really sure but I know there are not part of normal blooming. Is it increasing onto other leaves or not?
JackHerer
06-27-2007, 10:41 PM
PPM @ the moment is 1200, I have been keeping it at that since last week & maybe shouldn't have been adding nutes to the water I top the res up with. Although the plants have been drinking it at 5 ltrs per day. I will just top up with PH'd water tomorrow & then change the res again on Friday to bring the PPM's down unles you think I should flush straight away.
The brown spots are mainly on the White KC plant, can't remember at this point seeing any on the Skunk. If there has been some dew in the morning that could be the only way of water getting on the leaves. I haven't seen any pests on them & I give them a good scan 3 times a day at least using a lens from a 50x pair of binoculars as a magnifying glass. I'll have a thorough search in the morning on both sides of the leaves, but any chace you can give me an idea of what I am looking for.
hydrocannabis
06-28-2007, 12:13 AM
hey JH you have a TREE in there. dammmm that looks great. keep it up bro.
Weedhound
06-28-2007, 04:19 AM
1200 is good....you do have a good sized tree there...that shouldn't be too much ppm wise.....perhaps its from before. Those spots Jack......I really don't know...try this link and see if it has any info you can use. You also might try posting that pic in the plant problems sections and see if someone else can offer anything.
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688)
JackHerer
06-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Cheers HC the Skunk at the back is pretty tall, I'm 6' & I need the step ladders to check the top of it.:jointsmile:
I had a good read of that link WH :thumbsup: . From its info it looks like the candidates are light bleaching, heat stress or a calcium def. Would have to say yes to the light bleaching as I'm closer to 150 W / sqr ft than the 75 W advised. Heat stress is another issue I would say is probable, but the time it would take to get a solution implemented exceeds whats left of this crop by my calculations & I have decided to defnitely get a tent, coolshade & extraction system for the next grows flowering stage.
That leaves the calcium def & it might be worth treating for that just to be sure. The guide recommends foliar feeding with dolomite lime. Where would I get this & is there anything I should pay particular attention to?
evertking
06-28-2007, 01:59 PM
good looking plants!
JackHerer
06-28-2007, 04:36 PM
Cheers evertking
Had a bit of a think about the PPM's Weedhound, the Skunks are quite tall but the White KC at the front is less than half the size of big bessie at the back. Its also showing most of the burn problems. So I changed the rez today anyway & didn't use as many of the budding additives. Left out the Vita Link Buddy as I'm using the Canna Boost & PK 13/14 combination this week. Once that all cycles through with the half inch left in the bottom of the tank the PPM's should be about 900 - 1000.
Weedhound
06-28-2007, 06:36 PM
Good point that I didn't consider Jack....two very different sized plants....good call. Keep an eye on your ppms and see if they stay the same, rise, or go down. I have no idea where to buy dolomite lime but you can also use something called CalMag Plus which is made to replace calcium, magnesium etc in your nutes. For some reason.....that does not look like a calcium def to me (not that I could say exactly what a CA def looks like) so I'd be careful of adding anything at this point. Your plants look very good and that's when I usually "overhelp" them and screw things up. If you can post a pic in the problem section I'm pretty sure someone like Stinky or somebody will know what it is. Heat sounds very much like the culprit to me.
JackHerer
07-04-2007, 01:19 PM
Week 11 & 42 days in flower.
Starting flushing today as the KC1 is now showing more amber pistils than new white ones. The skunk #1 doesn't appear to be browning off the pistils yet but I checked the photo on the site I got the seeds & it looks a more white hair than red hair sensi.
Sensi Seeds - Skunk #1 (http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Sensi_Seeds__Skunk_1.cfm?iProductID=1174)
The nute burn seem to have been sorted & as I'm flushing now that should hopefully not cause any further problems. Still some light bleaching but unless I take out the ceiling the light can't get any higher.
Pic 2 is a comparison of mid buds from both the White KC (on the bottom) & the Skunk #1
Bit perplexed as to why the mids of the Skunk heave better development than the top of the White KC when they are at the same height r distance from the light. Maybe that strain just isn't very heavy on the resin.
Weedhound
07-04-2007, 04:30 PM
They look great!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: Looks like they are starting to fill in and swell there. Different strains look at end up differently so no surprise that they seem different to you. (plus the lighting) I''ve read that you cannot tell how good a strain is by the amount of trichs on it so don't go by that....some really strong strains have lesser amounts of trichs (so I've read.....)
Since you are flushing with ph'd water for several weeks I'm assuming you are not going to go with a flushing solution like FloraKleen or something along that line?
JackHerer
07-04-2007, 08:13 PM
Cheers WH.
I hadn't really thought about using a flushing solution & don't really know much about them. I would like to get rid of the taste of all chemicals so thats why I thought PH water for 2 weeks instead of the 1 week often suggested.
Weedhound
07-04-2007, 08:30 PM
If you can do it I would it.....it will really help get rid of the excess salts etc.
Here is the one I use. GENERAL HYDROPONICS (http://www.genhydro.com/genhydro_US/florakleen.html)
Then however long it takes after that I use plan ph'd water..up to two weeks.
Zandor has a good sticky here about the right way to use the stuff...pretty detailed.
Ps..otherwise I'd just keep doing what you are doing. :D
JackHerer
07-05-2007, 08:40 PM
I had a read about that Flora Kleen & Zandors thread. Been trying to find some of that on ebay or a hydroponics shop localy. If I can get some soon I will give it a bash otherwise I'll just use the PH'd water daily.
Weedhound
07-06-2007, 03:33 AM
:thumbsup:
Rock.Steady
07-08-2007, 04:14 AM
Jack,
all i can say is WOW!:jawdropper:
your girls look FANTASTIC!
cant wait for the smoke report:thumbsup:
Rock.
JackHerer
08-13-2007, 11:34 AM
Thanks Rock
Sorry been busy for the last few weeks. Harvested the plants, I got 6 ounce from the big S1A Skunk#1 plant and 4 once from the slightly smaller skunk plant. IMO this is down to the branch buds on the smaller one not being so well developed causing them to lose more weight as they dried. I think they probably had a lot of water in them as the shrinkage during drying was high. I also lost about an ounce of each top cola due to mould & rot which wasn't visible until breaking the cola up into its buds.
The White KC only provided just under an ounce.
Both plants are an excellent smoke the skunk has a nice lemongrass smell to it while the white KC smells & tastes more fruity.
Baked is the best description of the high although I find I still get the impuse to go do things. By the end of a day of smoking or a heavy session the couch lock does get pretty heavy.
A couple of bud pics the first is the very top of the white KC plant nicknamed Simpsons Bud as I had it for a smoke before the SImpsons movie.:jointsmile:
Thanks for all the help especially Weedhound & now time to grow these little clone babies:stoned:
Weedhound
08-13-2007, 12:38 PM
Congratulations.....:thumbsup: Six ounces off one plant is certainly something to crow about...(think I got 1 and 1/2 oz off first plants). Great job Jack. :yippee:
You don't happen to have a photo of the mold etc on your buds do you? That would be a great learning tool around here. ;)
JackHerer
08-15-2007, 11:51 AM
Thanks WH I originally thought I messed up in the curing as the plants looked like they had more on them.
Sorry I don't have a pic of the mould or rot, it was a hectic weekend when I harvested them as friends showed up un announced looking to stay for a few days.
Weedhound
08-15-2007, 03:11 PM
Yep....THEY ALL POP UP AROUND HARVEST DON'T THEY???: Congrats on your grow Jack. :thumbsup:
smokedoja
08-16-2007, 05:49 AM
hey you should post some more harvest pics! :D
JackHerer
08-17-2007, 04:33 PM
Sorry smokedoja due to the interuption while harvesting no pics were taken.
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