Will you vote?

[Pipe Dreams]

Will you vote in the upcoming '08 election?

I for one, most definitely WILL be voting. If you dont vote, then dont fucking complain.

[rebgirl420]

^^ beautifully put hun! Me too!

[Psycho4Bud]

Agreed, I always vote.............somebody has to offset the Dems. LOL

Have a good one!:s4:

[pwn3dy0]

Of course.

[rebgirl420]

pipe dreams is right too, you don't vote, then no one wants to hear your two cents

[LittleLefty90]

I need to give PsychoforBud someone to offset don't I?

[LittleLefty90]

Obama '08

:rastasmoke:

[40oz]

Puppet on the left or puppet on the right.... no im not voting.

[russ-bob]

Puppet on the left or puppet on the right.... no im not voting.

Well one is always the lesser evil and our nation isint always the best at picking the better of the two. So I vote to enlighten the masses:thumbsup:

[rebgirl420]

I dont get how people dont vote. People gave their lives for you to votea nd you cant even get off your butt for one day and pull a lever?

[budsmoker only]

this might sound dumb and shit...
but how do you register to vote?? cuz i dont think i have yet..

[rebgirl420]

^^ yeah this will be my first time too,im 18 now/ But yeah sometimes you can do it at the city courthouse, but besides that I dunno..google it though. im sure they'll tell you.

[nevaquit01]

Go to the post office and they will give you a form.

[40oz]

I dont get how people dont vote. People gave their lives for you to votea nd you cant even get off your butt for one day and pull a lever?

Maybe in the revolutionary war. No soldiers died actually protecting our right to vote since then.

[Psycho4Bud]

Maybe in the revolutionary war. No soldiers died actually protecting our right to vote since then.

The war of 1812, WW2, the war in Afghanistan.............

Have a good one!:s4:

[40oz]

Ok you got me on the war of 1812 but WW2 and Afghanistan... I don't think our system of government was really threatend during either of those wars.

I'm not trying to belittle the accomplishments of people in the service, especially the ones who were KIA, but to say those men and women died protecting my right to vote doesn't really sound truthful at all.

edit...also i retract my admission that you got me on the war of 1812. America declared that war on Britian because American 'war hawks' didn't like Britian's trade policies....also because they took some American sailors captive. Didn't have anything to do with freedom to vote.

[Psycho4Bud]

The war of 1812........I don't think the English were concerned about any of our rights

WW2.....between Hitler and the Japanese empire you could have kissed your right to vote away.

Afghanistan.........the ultimate goal of these assclowns is to let Sharia law prevail. Kiss ALL your rights away.

There are many reasons why these people gave their lives for us and the right to vote is just one of them. Even if you vote for a party that you know doesn't have a rats ass chance of making it at least you exercised the right that alot of the world doesn't have.

Have a good one!:s4:

[pisshead]

Ok you got me on the war of 1812 but WW2 and Afghanistan... I don't think our system of government was really threatend during either of those wars.

I'm not trying to belittle the accomplishments of people in the service, especially the ones who were KIA, but to say those men and women died protecting my right to vote doesn't really sound truthful at all.

edit...also i retract my admission that you got me on the war of 1812. America declared that war on Britian because American 'war hawks' didn't like Britian's trade policies....also because they took some American sailors captive. Didn't have anything to do with freedom to vote.

it's never been threatened by anyone more than the person who's been selected to sit in the white house for the last 90 years...except kennedy, he started to turn things around and give speeches about how the office had been taken over...he started to print money backed by silver, pull the troops out of vietnam, dissolve the CIA...

and we all know what happened next...

i'll be voting for ron paul...if my choice comes down to 2 establishment candidates, i won't vote...

[40oz]

I guess you could be incredibly broad and say that they died protecting our right to vote but there is still to much about our government's voting system I don't agree with. The electoral college for example... that is basically the governments way of saying the population, in general, is too stupid to really know who they want to vote for. Maybe if our president was decided by popular vote I would consider giving my input but until then or until a candidate comes along that I like (which probably won't happen), I dont think I will be voting.

[Psycho4Bud]

I guess you could be incredibly broad and say that they died protecting our right to vote but there is still to much about our government's voting system I don't agree with. The electoral college for example... that is basically the governments way of saying the population, in general, is too stupid to really know who they want to vote for. Maybe if our president was decided by popular vote I would consider giving my input but until then or until a candidate comes along that I like (which probably won't happen), I dont think I will be voting.

I'm against the popular vote for the following reason:
The top 5 states equate for 1/3 of the entire population.......I'd hate to think that the will of the other states be considered so insignificant. We have equity based on population in Congress.....good enough.

Have a good one!:s4:

[40oz]

I'm against the popular vote for the following reason:
The top 5 states equate for 1/3 of the entire population.......I'd hate to think that the will of the other states be considered so insignificant. We have equity based on population in Congress.....good enough.



I don't agree...when a president wins the popular vote but looses the election because of electoral votes (like what happened in the 2000 elections) something is wrong. The person that was chosen by a majority of US citizens does not become president. It's like flushing the whole idea of democracy down the toilet

[Psycho4Bud]

I don't agree...when a president wins the popular vote but looses the election because of electoral votes (like what happened in the 2000 elections) something is wrong. The person that was chosen by a majority of US citizens does not become president. It's like flushing the whole idea of democracy down the toilet

The entire population of the U.S. is roughly 300 mill.........the state of California has a population of over 38 mill.....I'd hate to think that this one state would equate to over 10% of the thought of the entire nation. There are MANY people that agree with very little that comes out of California.

As for the 2000 election........THANK GOD for the system we have!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[dusto2k3]

i'm gonna dop a write in for

American Dad

[40oz]

The entire population of the U.S. is roughly 300 mill.........the state of California has a population of over 38 mill.....I'd hate to think that this one state would equate to over 10% of the thought of the entire nation. There are MANY people that agree with very little that comes out of California.

As for the 2000 election........THANK GOD for the system we have!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

Thats because it really IS 10% of the thought of the nation. Whether other people agree with eachother or not between states I think each vote should count towards election of the president, not whether or not a state is blue or red.

[Psycho4Bud]

You know, that would also put your largest cities view over that of the rural community. I'd REALLY hate to see L.A., New York, Dallas and Chicago as the leaders of the nation.........

Have a good one!:s4:

[budsmoker]

whats the point in voting when our vote dont count? whoever the governments wants to be president will be president

[40oz]

You know, that would also put your largest cities view over that of the rural community. I'd REALLY hate to see L.A., New York, Dallas and Chicago as the leaders of the nation.........

Have a good one!:s4:

Those cities are already leaders of the nation and because of the electoral college all those cities pretty much automatically vote democrat, except for Dallas. If the elections went by popular vote then every republican, democrat, and other party supporter would have an independant voice from the city they live in, instead of the same one every year.

[Dest]

I cant vote, but you guys should vote whenever you can and not just in presidential elections. You can make more of a diffrence by voting in local and state elections many people focus on who the president is and dont focus on whos actually running the country.

[Psycho4Bud]

Those cities are already leaders of the nation and because of the electoral college all those cities pretty much automatically vote democrat, except for Dallas. If the elections went by popular vote then every republican, democrat, and other party supporter would have an independant voice from the city they live in, instead of the same one every year.

Interesting concept.......I'm going to see if I can find some voting results by city.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Nor.Cal Smoker]

I FULLY AGREE, If you don't vote.....DON'T BITCH!!!! If you want to have a say so, get out and vote b/c that is the closest thing to a say so you will get!

[mrdevious]

Here in Canada we pretty much see the states as a one-party system. Only difference between dems and reps is a slight right/left varriation of the same old. (well, I can't speak for all Canadians, but that's how me and my friend's see it)

[medicinal]

It's still the lessor of the two evils thingy, but if you don't vote, you might get stuck with another Dubya, curses. There seems to be a lot of stupid voters. How in the hell did he get re-elected? Wasn't one term enough of a wake up call. I think they cheated again, go figure.

[fishman3811]

P4B the 2000 election was rigged didnt u see farenheight 9/11..Al Gore should be ur president not the numb nuts u have now.

[halo]

I really really want to but i wont turn 18 til 2009! Although my friend who is very apathetic towards politics said that he'll vote for whoever i tell him too lol.

[Psycho4Bud]

P4B the 2000 election was rigged didnt u see farenheight 9/11..Al Gore should be ur president not the numb nuts u have now.

:S2: .......farenheight 9/11, your joking right?

Have a good one!:s4:

[xTsUnAmI]

I've voted in every election since I turned 18. I find it really sad how little of the population actually votes.

[GotWake88]

The entire population of the U.S. is roughly 300 mill.........the state of California has a population of over 38 mill.....I'd hate to think that this one state would equate to over 10% of the thought of the entire nation. There are MANY people that agree with very little that comes out of California.

If California has ten percent of the population, then it should have ten percent of the say; period.

As for the 2000 election........THANK GOD for the system we have!!

Not really. In fact the 2000 election was not a result of our system of government, but rather the most significant corruption of this system. If anybody researches from a neutral point of view, they will learn that the 2000 election was the second biggest affront to democracy that our great nation has ever seen(second only to the administration that resulted).

[GotWake88]

:S2: .......farenheight 9/11, your joking right?

Have a good one!:s4:

The election was fixed, but don't patron fatass Michael Moore. Watch the documentary "Unprecedented" to learn about election irregularties in 2000.

[40oz]

The election was fixed, but don't patron fatass Michael Moore. Watch the documentary "Unprecedented" to learn about election irregularties in 2000.

There would have been no possible way to carry out that 'conspiracy' if the election went to the unquestionable popular vote winner Al Gore.

[Matt the Funk]

Ok, just want to start off with saying I can't even vote. But I have the right to bitch about this stuff. I just have to say I don't agree with the electoral college, or the whole people dying for our right to vote. I think everyones vote should count directly. There should be no electoral votes. I know the reason my dad doesn't vote is because for one he doesn't agree with hardly any of the politics of the partys, and his vote would be dem, which makes no difference in california. The whole thing about people dying for our right to vote is because people are to stupid that WE actually hold the power, not our goverment. We allow people to have all the power in the world, then we let them decide how much power we should get, which is little to non. It's the whole pyramid system of power that fucks everyone not at the top over.Also most wars are over power, not the right to vote. In a way war is like voting. People on each side oppose eachother and fight over who's view is correct. Now yes, I agree people should vote, but i'm sure some people just don't see their votes counting. The whole voting system is pretty messed up, and people in general are corrupt. People sell the idea of freedom and democracy and instead shove their beliefs down our throats.Anyways i'm going off topic now and I don't even remember what the hell this post was about...I took something unmentionable earlier and yeah....sorry.

[twocamaros]

Why vote.. its one asshole one way or another... VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

[medicinal]

Why vote.. its one asshole one way or another... VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

You start the revolution and I'll Vote for it!

[delusionsofNORMALity]

pipe dreams is right too, you don't vote, then no one wants to hear your two cents

though i usually attempt to avoid profanity, statements like this make me want to puke my fuckin' guts out all over somebody's pretty pink slippers. i've had it with this power of the vote shit. have any of you been paying attention? the political animals aren't even trying to hide their lies any more. broken promises, blatant corruption and a total disregard for the will of the people are what we have come to expect from our elected officials and we have yet to be disappointed. when the voice of the people is heard, it is quickly set aside by our beloved politicians should they see it as politically expedient.

many have given their lives for our freedoms, the very same freedoms our government insists on depriving us of every chance they get. no one in their right mind would willingly give up their life for the smoke and mirrors parlor trick that the popular vote has become. a vote based on the deceptions spewed along the campaign trail is worse than useless, it is an affirmation of the pitiful charade that our system has become. it is an insult to those who have died for the cause of true freedom.

go ahead and toss away your votes on the lesser of the available evils. go ahead play the game where the outcome is always the same, but don't you dare to look down on those of us who won't be fooled by such childish illusions. your vote is almost as harmless as it is useless, but once you start mouthing off with such tired cliches as the one above you become the enemy of one of our most basic freedoms and an enemy of those who fight to keep freedom alive.

so i reiterate, fuck this kind of shit. go ahead, vote your way to slavery and ignore the useless opinions of those who have chosen a different road. your attention is not required, there are many others who's minds are not quite so closed.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

You start the revolution and I'll Vote for it!

the revolution has been going on for quite some time, i guess you were just too busy voting to notice. even passive resistance is better than joining hands with the enemy.
:hippy:

[rebgirl420]

^^ our basic freedom IS to be able to vote, were lucky enough to have that sort of freedom. There are countries all over the place that don't even HAVE that freedom. If you don't vote then don't thats your freedom too. But by not doing anything and just saying that you want a revolution is just as stupid. Your vote DOES matter.

[Zimzum]

I've voted in every election since I turned 18. I find it really sad how little of the population actually votes.

Same here. People think all these elections have been almost split 50/50 between voters. People winning by less then a thousand votes, etc. But when you look at the overall voter turnout, only 50%~ of all registered voters actually go vote. So in reality only half are split 50/50. Imagine if another party came in and took that other 50%. Would certainly blow away the 25% both Dems and Repubs are really getting. And may even take votes away from those 2 parties.

People you need to vote for who you want and not who people tell you to vote. If everyone who wanted to vote independent, green, libertarian did so then it would give the 2 main parties a run for there money. Instead everyone thinks "If I vote for X I'm throwing my vote away" so they don't vote for X, when in fact X could have won but voter mentality kept them from doing so.

In short, find someone who will appeal to the 50% who don't vote and you will have a 3rd party.

[psykoactive420]

Will you vote in the upcoming '08 election?

I for one, most definitely WILL be voting. If you dont vote, then dont fucking complain.



It's my God given right as an American to have the ability to vote for my government.

I appreciate the chance to practice democracy.

[Mark Bryan]

I'd like to vote again,but since I moved from Christiansburg to Norfolk,(Va.) I haven't been able to re-register without an address. My choice for Dem would be Gatewood Galbraith,but he's runnin' for Governor of Kentucky,my choice for Republican would be either Chris Conrad from California,or Randy Forbes from Virginia! Gatewood for Governor (http://gatewood.com/) Thank You For Visiting ChrisConrad.com (http://www.chrisconrad.com)

[Mark Bryan]

Gatewood for Governor (http://gatewood.com/) Thank You For Visiting ChrisConrad.com (http://www.chrisconrad.com) Congressman J. Randy Forbes - The Official Online Resource for Constituents of Virginia's Fourth Congressional District (http://forbes.house.gov/)

[thecreator]

Yea all the people who say "I don't vote because both candidates liars "are naive and uninformed.Yea Paris had a better turn out than we did, 86% turn out.

[Oneironaut]

Me? Participate in bourgeois "democracy"? Oh yes, I'm so grateful I live in such a free country where I have the right to choose between two different bands of tyrants who have completely different agendas for ensuring that the government, capitalism and religion are safe to continue preying on the minds and bodies of the people. Because hey, if you can choose your masters, that means you're not a slave, right? You don't have a real voice in what kinds of rules get passed, but you can choose who you want to think for you, and that's good enough, right?

Fuck the vote. ¡Viva la revolución!