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Frank_The_Tank
05-01-2007, 01:45 AM
dude.... one thing we never really think of but we are made of of trillions of tiny little animals. we dont usually look at this fact as i just put it because we usually just call them cells and not really think about it. It is really quite odd that all of those tiny animals compacted togeather can create life. Our brain is nothing but a bunch of tiny critters packed togeather. If your baked outa your mind or on some different psycoactive substances ;) really focus and ponder on the fact that most possibly each and every human is a universe to the group of cells that make us up. there are over 6 billion people in the world so that makes about 6 billion total universes in the eyes of a cell. Now in our human reality there is only one universe where everything there ever was excisted. So lets say those cells believe that the human they live inside is the only possible universe and to them alternate universes are impossible. But there are billions of people in the world and that means that even though the cells that life in a specific person think that they live in the only possible universe , we know for a fact that they are wrong. Lets apply that logic to our level of reality. We cannot percive billions of alternate universes but the logic i expressed in this article prooves that the most logical truth is that there are billions of other universes almost identical to ours with only minor variations.

cannavore
05-01-2007, 01:55 AM
its kinda like the perspective presented in the movie men in black.

afghooey
05-01-2007, 02:46 AM
I find it amazing how some people can be so sure that there are no higher forms of consciousness out there. Our cells compose a higher consciousness without being aware of it, and maybe without even being aware of themselves. Maybe we're not cells of a greater being in quite such a literal sense, but it seems more than a bit egotistical to assume that we're at the 'highest rung' when it comes to levels of consciousness.

Coelho
05-01-2007, 04:19 AM
^^^^ indeed! And i would say not "a bit egotistical", but "complete arrogance"... We look to the starry sky, full of infinite stars, and galaxies, and realize we are only bacteries over a grain of sand called Earth, lost in midst of zillions of another planets, stars, galaxies, and who knows what else?...
I think it would be nice if everybody, at least once in the life, turned the eyes from the TV and watched the sky... preferibly stoned... and then realized the greatness of everything and the smallness of ourselves...

afghooey
05-01-2007, 05:01 AM
But the beauty of it is that the universe doesn't just extend outwards, it extends inwards as well. Maybe the earth seems like a relative speck of dust when we look out into the vastness of space, but that is because we can see farther outwards than we can see inwards -- in the end, though, size is completely irrelevant. Each cell in our bodies is as significant as we are, and we are just as significant as each sprawling, wonderous galaxy that we've glimpsed in space.

It's a notion that is both incredibly humbling and equally aggrandizing all at once.

Delta9 UK
05-01-2007, 06:00 AM
I like the idea of "Spooky effects at a distance" - I sort of bastardized a bit of Quantum Mechanics....

If everything was together in the big bang - then exploded outwards - we are all part of matter which existed as pure energy in one sigularity.

So we are all from the same place - everything in the Universe is interlinked and shares a common origin.

Maybe there is something useful there - something that would help us travel faster or tap into more energy. Who know?

We only sent some guys to the moon so far....

Hardcore Newbie
05-01-2007, 07:53 AM
You guys should listen to some Joe Rogan stand up comedy, he talks bout tonnes of stuff like this (almost exactly, actually) He's a great comedian that nobody knows about :)

Something cool that he said was how much we take outer space for granted. It's infinite, it goes on forever, and yet no one really talks about it. If we lived underground, and there was only one place you could see space, it'd be the most mind-blowing attraction of all. Something with no ceiling would just be such a foreign concept, but we're so used to having the infinite all around us every day that we just accept it.

MJBlasted
05-01-2007, 02:52 PM
dude.... one thing we never really think of but we are made of of trillions of tiny little animals. we dont usually look at this fact as i just put it because we usually just call them cells and not really think about it. It is really quite odd that all of those tiny animals compacted togeather can create life. Our brain is nothing but a bunch of tiny critters packed togeather. If your baked outa your mind or on some different psycoactive substances ;) really focus and ponder on the fact that most possibly each and every human is a universe to the group of cells that make us up. there are over 6 billion people in the world so that makes about 6 billion total universes in the eyes of a cell. Now in our human reality there is only one universe where everything there ever was excisted. So lets say those cells believe that the human they live inside is the only possible universe and to them alternate universes are impossible. But there are billions of people in the world and that means that even though the cells that life in a specific person think that they live in the only possible universe , we know for a fact that they are wrong. Lets apply that logic to our level of reality. We cannot percive billions of alternate universes but the logic i expressed in this article prooves that the most logical truth is that there are billions of other universes almost identical to ours with only minor variations.

in Corinthians 3.16-17 the bible says, "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple."

sm0k1t
05-01-2007, 03:31 PM
It's an interresting way of seeing how infinity might work with our perception of the universe but I'd say that most humans should not be represented or compared as a cell...well actually we should be more precise like some humans play the role of a cancer (bad cell) and others try to keep a certain equilibrium on the planet (good cell). Its kinda like in the movie Matrix, how the machine define themselves and our species. Or in AI robot...same thing

68eric86
05-05-2007, 11:01 PM
I would recommend to any interested in this stuff or just life itself, to watch "What the Bleep Do We Know". It is all about Quantum Mechanics, different levels of consciousness and all that good stuff. If you like this kind of thing you will love this video. It will really get you to thinking.

Coelho
05-05-2007, 11:32 PM
But the beauty of it is that the universe doesn't just extend outwards, it extends inwards as well. Maybe the earth seems like a relative speck of dust when we look out into the vastness of space, but that is because we can see farther outwards than we can see inwards -- in the end, though, size is completely irrelevant. Each cell in our bodies is as significant as we are, and we are just as significant as each sprawling, wonderous galaxy that we've glimpsed in space.

It's a notion that is both incredibly humbling and equally aggrandizing all at once.

I agree... but as most humans are much more proud than humble, i think we need more humbling than aggrandizing thoughts.

PureEvil760
05-05-2007, 11:46 PM
Even humble people are perverted by ego the same way as proud people, they look at others like "i am more humble than him, which makes me better" If you can wash the feet of your most hated enemy, then you are humble in my book.

Coelho
05-06-2007, 04:48 AM
^^^^ indeed... and this is one of the hardest weaknesses to overcome... cause more humble we become, more people are less humble than us, and easier to brag about our own humbleness... its like a snowball effect...

Matt the Funk
05-06-2007, 04:56 AM
We are all just apart of the circle of life.

PureEvil760
05-06-2007, 01:08 PM
ok simba

Nochowderforyou
05-06-2007, 07:06 PM
Whoa, farout man. :p

Oneironaut
05-06-2007, 07:46 PM
Funny thing is, most of those cells aren't even human cells. If you count up all the cells in your body, bacteria cells outnumber human cells about 10 to 1. You need those bacteria to stay alive, and there's really no sense in which those bacteria aren't part of your body. Most of you isn't human.

partcleguy
05-06-2007, 08:01 PM
Ok, I've been taking neuroscience classes for a while now and one of the biggest things I've gotten out of it is that cells are no more than little machines. I never really thought cells were "conscious" but after all this knowledge, I can disregard this superstitious thought. Cells as individuals are really no more than super complex in-out machines (except there are thousands of different ins/outs represented by different receptor types etc.). They do nothing more than the sum of all their proteins and those proteins' properties (which in the end are all created by and continued by DNA). This isn't taking into account the dynamic evolution of proteins and genetic drift etc. Now, this begs the question... what is consciousness and is it real? We are the sum of 10^11 neurons and the connections between them (a single neuron can have upwards of 8000 connections!). Most of that is hardware you're unaware of which is doing things to make your experience of the world seamless (i.e. vision, sensation, hearing, tasting, smelling, etc.). You could think of a single person as a next-level cell sorta, taking in information and putting it back out.

Can anyone tell I've been studying for finals? :D

dankkeeper
05-06-2007, 08:39 PM
So if every body is a universe to its cells, what happens when I sneeze?

Hardcore Newbie
05-09-2007, 07:03 PM
^^ Black hole and time travel :P

miraz
05-09-2007, 09:41 PM
wow, now that is trippy man. Nice mind!

couch-potato
05-09-2007, 11:19 PM
The Official String Theory Web Site (http://superstringtheory.com/)
String theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory)
What is String Theory ? (http://www.nuclecu.unam.mx/~alberto/physics/string.html)

Thought it had a place in this thread.