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JamaicanHerbMan
04-30-2007, 04:59 AM
Has anyone used any of these machine to trimmer there bud? Big Red Shredder or Trimbox herb trimmer. If so how much time does it take to trim a lbs of SOG single cola buds and do you still need to hand trimmer after? Any cons and pros will be helpful. And which who you recommend and why? :rastasmoke:
stinkyattic
04-30-2007, 01:41 PM
For a wet pound hand-trimming is still more desirable IMHO because 1) that pound is going to lose most of its weight and isn't really THAT much bud 2) a skilled hand-manicure will give you a much more attractive finished product
madeline
04-30-2007, 08:32 PM
Personally I can't see using anything but hand scissors. The name of that first one you mention says it all...Shredder! I take pride in my flowers and trim them close which how i picture power scissors working would do just the opposite and leave me with a pile of trim ready for nothing better than the bubblebags. Buy a case of beer and have a trim party!
And a pound of green buds will dry out to be around 4-5oz's so it won't take you all that long to do it yourself.
JamaicanHerbMan
04-30-2007, 10:36 PM
And a pound of green buds will dry out to be around 4-5oz's so it won't take you all that long to do it yourself.
Actually i was thinking about a pound dry, not wet how long does it take to hand trim to get apound dry? I've always had trimmers but next round i'll have to do most of it myself. I was just curious because i saw someone saying it toke them 10hr to do 1.5 lbs of finished dry bud. And would it be easier to manicure single main cola instead of a topped plant with lost of side cola's?:rastasmoke:
mountainbudman
10-09-2008, 12:15 PM
It takes about 13 to18 hours to trim up a lb. A person is doing ok at one ounce a hour. I pay my manicurists $200 per lb. I know people who are using the automated trimmers,say it works. Some these days are taking in easily over 50 lbs. especially since people are getting more into depro's (cutting plants light forcing flower)few crops a year.
zihowie
10-12-2008, 05:38 PM
Id be too afraid of losing all those yummy thc chrystals, but then again you could scrape them together and have kief like that. So kief on the buds or off? your choice.
maximum420
11-20-2008, 01:48 AM
you guys suck at triming because i trim a pound an hour and its a perfect job just use the sisor lenght ways on the bud, dont cut leaf by leaf and try to be fuking sober !
humboldtlocal
02-25-2009, 04:50 AM
The Tumbleweed is the only way to trim alot of weed. I will never hire timmers again. What a waste of money, time, and my security. The Tumbleweed and the Samurai Power Trimmer are the same machine. Check out the video on youtube and see for your self. You can trim 100lbs in a day. YouTube - Samurai Power Trimmer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUhGramdE6M)
Greatest invention since birth control.:thumbsup: If you want one on the west coast the dudes in Humboldt that sell them are called Trim Scene Solutions 707-223-3873 This machine is better than the Rolling Thunder, The reel pro trimmer, any of the trim pros, and it is half the price of the Centurion. It has put all of the other trim machines out of business in Canada. They have sold hundreds of them up there. If you call any of the Hydro shops in Canada that sell them they will tell you that the Tumbleweed is the best.:rasta:
killerweed420
02-25-2009, 07:40 PM
you guys suck at triming because i trim a pound an hour and its a perfect job just use the sisor lenght ways on the bud, dont cut leaf by leaf and try to be fuking sober !
Nobody trims a pound an hour. Unless you're just removing fan leaves and not giving them a close tight trim.
zlessley
03-29-2009, 07:33 PM
I don't know what the weight is but it usually takes my wife and I a night to do a solid 3-4' indoor plant...
the image reaper
05-26-2009, 04:19 AM
right here: :S2:
JD1stTimer
06-02-2009, 02:52 AM
ROFLMAO!!!! But it kinda makes the vehicle undriveable, I hope he won't need to make a quick getaway!!
Phukovsky
06-02-2009, 08:54 PM
Just wanted to point out that the Tumbleweed hasn't put all other trimmers out of business. The Twister Machine (http://www.thetwistermachine.com) is very popular in Canada and has a growing customer base in the US. Check out this vid on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqP4UGfJdLs). This ain't your grandpa's trimmer...
humboldtlocal
08-08-2009, 05:43 PM
Just wanted to point out that the Tumbleweed hasn't put all other trimmers out of business. The Twister Machine (http://www.thetwistermachine.com) is very popular in Canada and has a growing customer base in the US. Check out this vid on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqP4UGfJdLs). This ain't your grandpa's trimmer...
I got to see this machine next to the Tumbleweed and it has some major improvements. A very well built machine. It actually makes the Tumbleweed look like some Chinese made crap. The biggest problem with the Tumbleweed is the blades are very hard to adjust. It is hard to get it even on both sides. The Twister has self sharpening blades and they adjust with clickers. A very precise adjustment. Also the Twister is easier to clean and the whole thing is waterproof so you can pressure wash every inch of it. I am getting one in a couple weeks and will post a report but from what I have seen already this looks like the best trimmer out there.
fourkicks
08-08-2009, 06:37 PM
i prefer HAND JOBS.its alot more pleasing :)
greensticks
08-17-2009, 02:14 AM
Is there anywhere in San Fran to buy a Twister? I have a similar trimmer but would like a upgrade. I think having 2 will only make it that much faster.
humboldtlocal
08-17-2009, 04:10 AM
The Twister dealer in Nor Cal is called Trim Scene Solutions.
Trim Scene Solutions (http://trimscene.com/)
Because there is already a shortage of them he is the only dealer in Cali that can get them between now and fall time. I have one on order but it is still a couple weeks out. I also have a Tumbleweed but need two machines also.
humboldtlocal
08-17-2009, 04:14 AM
Is there anywhere in San Fran to buy a Twister? I have a similar trimmer but would like a upgrade. I think having 2 will only make it that much faster.
With two machines you can put them back to back so it goes through one and straight into the next. Because it is like doing two runs through the machine you can run the weed through much faster. This is how they do it in Canada and that is why they say they are doing 10 lbs per hour.
allinat420
08-17-2009, 04:05 PM
Beware of all the forum hype guys,
I just posted this on another thread but i laid down 15k for one of these twister trimmers a while back based on the forum hype and a few you tube videos and a lot of BS is being spread by the guys making these and selling these. They look really cool on you tube but the fact is they do a lot of damage to your buds..so much that they cut down on your finished bud weight...and then they dont to that great of a job so you have to do a second trim once dry by hand anyway...crows feet is understatement.
They cut off the nodes growing off the bud as they trim the leaves. No one would up with a manual trimmer who lobs pieces off their precious buds..no matter how fast he is..well these mechanical trimmers are doing that at grand scale.
Look how often the Cali seller for these is mentioned in these supposed user reviews.
Its misleading...if they want to advertise their product they should buy addspace on cannabis.com..because usually when i look to a forum i am looking for end user feedback..not seller hype. I am ok when people say upfront they are the manufacturer and are here to answer questions..but i dont like when a manufacturer or seller pretends to be a end user and gives a sales pitched disguised as an unbiased review.
All of these machines..the samurai, the tumbleweed, the centurion, the rolling thunder, the green machine (great names by the way) are based on the same design which i feel was designed mainly to look good on youtube. I believe rolling thunder was the first one..the innovator..and then a bunch of other guys just ripped off their design..there is very little difference in how these machines function. So why not just wait until china rips off one of these designs and sells them direct on ebay for 2k.
Why is it that these things have been around for atleast three years and you cant find a definitive review from any reliable source. If these things are so "revolutionary" where is the freakin high times review? I mean they look awesome as shit..they make good cover photo material..so where is the reviews?
I will give a quick user review here as i did in another thread at the risk of being flamed by the varous sellers and manufacturers lingering here...everyone knows that mechanical machines like the trim pro etc speed things up..but do a mediocre job that will need to be retrimmed by hand for a finished look anyway. These tumbler based machines are definitely built for large quantity, otherwise who would spend the big bucks, lug these things around (HIGH profile), store these at their grow (did i mention high profile), go through the hassle of cleaning them etc for anything under 100lbs..but i think even large growers expect great trim quality...why go through the hassle and expense of growing good bud only to get lazy at end with a machine to save a little time at the last minute. And if these things are all over humbolt which one user claims why is the only place you seem to be able to spot one is on youtube?
Also you need to a completely different drying procedure..drying on racks instead of drying on the stem, and you get an inferior finished product just based on this. Totally different look, smell and taste.
Buyer beware before plunking down 15k for one of these monstrosities.
The best thing they are good for is blowing away your friends when you show up at the trim party with one of these in the back of your pickup and a case of beers. You roll that monster in crushing the trim pros under its caster wheels. The manual trimmers which just sit around going "wow". They are BIG and impressive looking and make a helluva impressive entrance at the trim party, but whether they are even better than a trimpro is debatable.. at least with trimpro you can dry on the stem and they are low profile and portable...oh and are not as noisy as shit. Notice on the youtube videos they play music on the soundtrack instead of letting you hear how loud that beast is.
I bought based on forum hype (mostly from this thread) and got burned..i am just putting out the warning to others.
Stick with good ole scissors and manual labor...and beer. If the guys at the trim party really love you they will be cool even if you just show up with just beer.
humboldtlocal
08-18-2009, 02:04 AM
I know my friend "the Cali Seller" would probably buy it from you. There is such a demand for them that he has a long waiting list to get them. Where did you buy your machine from? Did they offer to buy it back from you or offer you any advice on having better luck with it? It almost sounds like you are trying to hype up the TrimPro's.
I dry my stuff on the collapsible nylon dry racks and it doesn't hurt my quality at all you just cant overload them.
humboldtlocal
08-18-2009, 02:42 AM
The vacuum is very loud but we just cut holes in the wall for the hoses and put the vac in the next room over. The actual trimmer is not very loud and we have the trimmers that do the big leafing sitting next to it all day with no complaints. Not about the noise anyway. ;) I think you should have given your machine a second chance. There is definitely a learning curve. I just don't buy that you are seeing nodes in the shake collection because mine chops the shake up so finely. I get some loose shake around the machine and on the floor but nothing that looks like nodes. I could see how if you had a very spiraled out very node-y sativa strain it could make it look weird but if you have nice looking uniform buds it shouldn't be a problem. I have not tried it on any weird sativa strains but I have run indoor, outdoor ,and light dep with great results. What strain are you running? Indoor or out? We spend a few minutes cleaning up the buds after they are dry and before they get bagged up but that is a lot better than a whole day on one lb. I don't know why you would drop 15k on a machine if you didn't have a lot to trim. The more you have to trim the more it is worth it. Sorry if I come off like a dick but I think you are giving people a very bad picture. I think the person that has 50 plus pounds to trim is going to need this but not most other people. Around here 50lbs is mom and pop.
greensticks
08-18-2009, 03:27 AM
Who bad mouths a product and then tries to sell it! LOL Either way, I will still buy it. PM me.
humboldtlocal
08-18-2009, 03:42 AM
Hey Greensticks I just tried to PM you but it wouldn't work. I added you as a contact then went to quick links then open pop up window and selected you for a PM and it said I don't have permission to access that page. I think we both need a certain number of posts to PM. On ICmag it is fifty posts. Any way I just wanted to know where you got your Rolling Thunder and what you paid? Also where did you have to take it to get it worked on? Thanks.
greensticks
08-18-2009, 03:36 PM
I bought it in Long Beach and the guy who serviced it was the rep or distributor. I think his name was Justin or Jordan. I paid just over 14k with the big vacuum. There was no other similar machines available in that area when I ordered it.
humboldtlocal
08-21-2009, 02:17 AM
Hey Greensticks, did allin420 get ahold of you about selling that Twister. I am getting the feeling that he is full of shit and has some other motivations for his smack talking. Probably a out of work trimmer. I talked to my friend that sells them and he said he would definitely buy it from him.
greensticks
09-04-2009, 02:08 AM
He never got a hold of me. I check back here from time to time to see if he responded. I am holding off for a few weeks to get a new machine now. Maybe a tumbleweed, but most likely a twister.
humboldtlocal
09-04-2009, 04:19 AM
Allinat420 was full of shit. I showed this thread to my friend from Trim Scene Solutions who is the only Twister dealer in Cali. He called all of the people he has sold them to in the bay area. Everyone has been stoked and no one is trying to sell their machines. He said that he is the only store that has sold any Twisters in Cali, so unless this guy went to Canada and brought his machine across the border he is full of shit. If you want a Twister call my Buddy J at Trim Scene Solutions 707-223-3873. He also has a website Trim Scene Solutions (http://trimscene.com/) They are in Humboldt but he ships them all around Cali. He also sells the Tumbleweed/Samurai. You better call him soon because I know he is crazy busy right now and there has been a huge run on the Twisters.
He told me he talked to the manufacturer and allinat420 never contacted them. I don't understand what that guys motivation was. It kind of sounded like he was pushing trimpros but he was knocking them too.
I am actually going to use a couple of the basic trimpros to big leaf before I buck my plants for the Twister and Tumbleweed. I have heard that it makes the process so much quicker.
I heard there will be a bunch of new Twister video footage posted online soon. Probably on Youtube but I will post a link on here too when it comes out.
Good luck getting another machine I hope it is not too late.
waterdog
09-04-2009, 12:00 PM
Hey why don't some of you CALI BIG DOGS show us your stuff???We would all LOVE to see say a...50-100 pound garden!I can imagine what it looks like...How far are you guys away from harvest?Peace....
Waterdog
humboldtlocal
10-07-2009, 01:32 AM
Here is some video of my Twister Trimming Machine. It works so much better than my old Tumbleweed/Samurai it is ridiculous. I sold the Tumbleweed and bought two Twisters. Best purchase of my life.
YouTube - Trimming Medical Marijuana with the Twister Trimming Machine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPgFPplNnA)
lilianmedrano
05-04-2010, 06:18 PM
Trimpro is a reliable company in business since 10 years considered as the Reference of the hydroponics industry in terms of trimming devices.
Don007206
02-15-2012, 09:54 PM
I have a little time on one about a week total over 2 months . Do not run your indoor gems in one outdoor your good but indo dominant only IMO . Not much to say past that
bjmaes
01-03-2014, 06:21 AM
I have used one of these machines before and they are awesome however I recommend using one only if you have alot to trim and I mean alot like say over 10 plants that are huge! Any less than that and you really should trim by hand. Another thing is that you will still have to clean the budds up a little on the ends because the machines tend to fray the ends and then your patients will know it was done by a machine. Some prefer only hand trimmed. For speed yes these machines are awesome. Another draw back is that the machines tend to beat up the budds a little. You need to get the hang of it and be careful not to let them spin for to long or you end up with less budd then you should. Practice with a small amount first in the tub.
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