Dragons

[Buddha Man]

do u think dragons ever existed?

[Samwhore]

YES!

[UMrocksmysocks]

oh ya, whats the name of that huge iguana .. the komoto maybe? my spelling kinda went to shit ;p but ya.. i do think there were dragons back in the day

[Samwhore]

Dragons and Unicorns ARE real, we've just never seen them.

[Marijuana connoisseu]

totally.

[russ-bob]

I want 5$ worth of whatever he has been smoking.

[epicsoundz69]

^what, like a half of a half of a gram?
i would ask for a gram instead of $5

Yes, yes i do believe dragons existed. No clue if they actually breathed fire or whatnot.

I mean, they could have been evolved t-rex's or some shit:thumbsup:

[Oneironaut]

Dragons? Now I know there are creationist nutjobs who think dinosaur fossils are actually dragon remains (dinosaurs breathed fire apparently), but does anybody not under the influence of that particular mental virus really believe in dragons? I would be interested in hearing the extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim, but it seems extremely unlikely that it would have any substance.

I mean, if dragons were these huge creatures that lived in the times of humans, where are their remains? If they really existed over a swath of land from Europe to China, we'd surely have found some interesting fossils of some sort, right? Some evidence of a dragon meat feast, or a slain dragon kept as a trophy, or just one that died of natural causes somewhere. What kind of biological mechanism could cause them to breathe fire, and how would that evolve?

In order to have a sustained population of fire-breathing dragons, they would be so numerous and so obviously there that no culture that lived around them would ever lack records of them, and we would have found at least as much evidence for them as we have for mammoths. And we would probably have some way to explain why they went extinct somewhere in the historical record.

[Oneironaut]

^what, like a half of a half of a gram?
i would ask for a gram instead of $5

Yes, yes i do believe dragons existed. No clue if they actually breathed fire or whatnot.

I mean, they could have been evolved t-rex's or some shit:thumbsup:
If that's true, why do tyrannosaurus rexes only appear in rock formations older than 65 million years? They were around for millions of years, showing up in all the rock formations, then went into hiding for 65 million years, popped up and battled some humans, and then went extinct like all the pterodactyls, stegosauri, and plesiosaurs already did, but for some completely different reason from the rest of the dinosaurs? Explain.

[Buddha Man]

id have to see more evidence. i think there may have been big lizards that could fly, but i would have to see evidence to believe the fire breathing thing

[Oneironaut]

Yes, there are flying lizards. Gliding lizards actually, but they're interesting nonetheless. Well, except they don't really breathe fire. Perhaps they were one of the inspirations for the dragon myth.

Flying lizard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_lizard)

[epicsoundz69]

Did I say i thought they existed during human times?
I just think they plain existed at one point.

You and your silly facts.:D

[Samwhore]

I know, One, I respect your facts and all, but you ALWAYS ruin my dreams.

[DeepFriedBrain]

Only the magic ones

[Oneironaut]

Did I say i thought they existed during human times?
No, but there must be some reason why dragons show up in Chinese and European mythologies. If they died out long before human culture, they would have been no more familiar to our ancestors than trilobites.

I just think they plain existed at one point.
Well, when? It would be real easy to figure this out. Just take your favorite dragon remains and do some radiometric dating. So...what do the tests say? Nothing, because for some strange reason our laboratories never got shipped any specimens of dragons, unicorns, leprechauns, fairies, or Loch Ness monsters.

You and your silly facts.:D
â??Facts are stupid things.â?� â??Ronald Reagan, misquoting John Adams.

â??Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.â?� â??what John Adams really said.

[epicsoundz69]

Bueno dude, calm down and smoke a J or something.:jointsmile:

edit: oh, and on the topic of physical proof, the word "god" comes to mind.

[slipknotpsycho]

oh ya, whats the name of that huge iguana .. the komoto maybe? my spelling kinda went to shit ;p but ya.. i do think there were dragons back in the day

the komodo dragon isn't in the iguana family, they're a member of the monitor lizards...

[slipknotpsycho]

btw, dragons exist even today from what i remember.... it's just not some huge flying fire breathing man eating best lol...

[originalblu]

i saw a show about dragons on the discovery channel, i'll try to find it on youtube

[Skink]

fictional...

[epicsoundz69]

Who knows, maybe people were afraid of the unicorn and dragon bodies (in the same sense as witches), took them out to the middle of the ocean and dumped them to keep evil goblin spirits from claiming their souls :wtf:

...man do i need to get high, my brain is all twacked sober

[greenmeanie]

Personally, the whole dragon mythology is proof that human history should be taken with a grain of salt. I don't believe that there were fire-breathing monsters in ancient Europe or Asia (no proof). I do believe that it's entirely possible that there were large NON-fire-breathing monsters all over the place, and people (see: the telephone game) told stories, got scared, etc... word of mouth somehow made fantastical legends out of ordinary things. The fact that western dragons are 100% tied up in the occult of European past (wizards and witchcraft... excalibur anyone?) makes things even more story-telling and less fact-based.

I love dragon stories. I just don't think they existed here on Earth like the stories tell. Does anyone think Lord of the Rings is historically accurate? :)

[Pipe Dreams]

I think dragons were actually the last few remaining dinosaurs.

[Polymirize]

Of course they existed at one point... But then, about the same time that dinosaurs were evolving into birds, most dragons started growing feathers, moved to mexico and became coatles... the favorite pet of the mayan people. And when the mayan people migrated to a higher plane of existance, they took their pets with them of course.

not exactly rocket science now is it?

[smoke it]

i saw this thing on the discovery channel about how draogns could have existed. it explained how they flew and breathed fire and all that shit. i think the fire had something ot do with platinum deposits in the mountains.

[krazy chino]

probably they did exist but the stories are over exagarated (my spelling sucks) and Epicsoundz69 gots a good possible point about the remainings

[Skink]

Would be a nice way to light up your bong...

[BizzleLuvin]

o i wish....

[Amun]

actually, an animal that spits fire isnt far from reality. its completely possible.


and i was watching some docu's and some christians (weird, eh?) believe that 'dragons' (which is a pretty new name in historical context) were simply 'dinosaurs', and actually in China they have 'evidence' (and paintings from famous painters for that matter) of chinese emperors that had their precessions (and the carts they were carried in) 'driven' by these 'dragons'....kind of interesting actually....

i dont believe it in the normal mainstream point of view, but yes, i think its completely possible for a 'dragon' to exist.....a flying dinosaur that spits fire? whats so hard to believe about that?

weirder shit happens on a daily basis.....



props pipe dreams, i think were on the same track here....

[stinkyattic]

Dragons now live in Indonesia and eat feral goats and carrion
21st centruy Trolls inhabit internet message boards.
Gotta change with the times, eh?

[Oneironaut]

actually, an animal that spits fire isnt far from reality. its completely possible.
Explain. How is it possible? And if it is indeed possible, where is the evidence that it actually happens?

I mean, seriously, does it have a supply of gasoline in its lungs and a sparker in its throat, and a protective fireproof lining around its mouth and all the various body parts that it's likely to burn at some point?

It doesn't seem that fire breathing would be a very good thing to have, evolutionarily speaking. Fire mostly just burns you, preventing you from passing on your genes. I can't imagine how it could stick around long enough to evolve aiming mechanisms for really big flames that make it useful for killing prey or whatever that would outweigh the huge risks of dealing with fire all the damn time.

And keep in mind that dragons do not breathe fire in Chinese mythology. Fire-breathing dragons appear only in Medieval European depictions.

[stinkyattic]

Komodo dragons have a specialized gum tissue structure that breeds over a dozen identified varieties of bacteria... a bite from a Komodo is certain death by infection, and how they kill prey that is too big for them to fight... it wanders off, dies, and then they go looking for it.
See, THIS is Nature's way of problem solving! Keep it simple stupid!
The evolution of flame is so outrageously improbable for the exact reasons oneironaut stated.
It would be more likely (still not likely... but MORE likely, lol) that they could FART fire, lol... at least methane (flammable hydrocarbon, exists as a gas at body temperature) is already a byproduct of digestion... hahahahaha I can just imagine St. George battling his big ol' dragon, and the thing turns around and RIPS one at him....

[epicsoundz69]

It wouldn't just evolve to spit fire if it still burned its throat and shit no? Maybe they could've developed a way to combine two reactive chemicals made by its body into a stream coming out of glands in its mouth.

Snakes spit venom, why couldn't a highly evolved giant reptile spit chemicals?

I dont even know why im arguing this point.

edit-
...I can just imagine St. George battling his big ol' dragon, and the thing turns around and RIPS one at him....

LOL
ROFL
That caused the funniest visual image ever.

[Oneironaut]

It wouldn't just evolve to spit fire if it still burned its throat and shit no? Maybe they could've developed a way to combine two reactive chemicals made by its body into a stream coming out of glands in its mouth.

Snakes spit venom, why couldn't a highly evolved giant reptile spit chemicals?
Spitting chemicals is one thing. Getting those chemicals to catch fire and not have a significant chance of severely burning you is another. I don't see how such an ability could possibly evolve. The first lizards to learn how to create the first rudimentary flames are likely to just burn themselves or their potential mates. This would not be a useful ability that would give fire-breathing genes a greater chance of survival than non-fire-breathing genes. If one misdirected breath can make you burn off your balls or cause a huge forest fire, how long are you going to stick around?

[thecreator]

Think they live in the spirits of yore......entertaining both young and old!

[typoerror]

of course dragons existed, they still exist today! heres mine....

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[SDK SLAYER]

of course dragons existed, they still exist today! heres mine....

Nice Bearded Dragon dude....here's another Australian dragon....:thumbsup: Our Eastern Water Dragons, Baldrick & Zelda :D :wtf: There's a clicky in my sig where you can see some video's of them....:cool: :stoned: :thumbsup:

:hippy:

Slayer

[LIP]

No, i dont belive they ever exsisted.

Would be a novel way to fire up a bong or a blunt or something lol.

[stinkyattic]

SDK Slayer, are those the ones that can scamper across the surface of water?

[typoerror]

SDK Slayer, are those the ones that can scamper across the surface of water?

that would be the "jesus christ lizard". its a basilisk from central/south america.

[SDK SLAYER]

SDK Slayer, are those the ones that can scamper across the surface of water?

hehe....I suppose they could, they're really quick....but not usually....if disturbed in the wild, they drop in the water & head for the bottom....they can hold their breath for up to an hour. :thumbsup:

Peace

Slayer