View Full Version : What do you think of a subjective reality?
xblackdogx
04-24-2007, 06:20 AM
You know, incorporating the law of attraction and whatnot. Do you think it's beneficial to have this kind of reasoning.
subjective reality:
Transcending Subjective Reality (http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/transcending-subjective-reality/)
Coelho
04-24-2007, 08:03 AM
yes... why not? for me it seems an waste to stay plugged to only one kind of reasoning, when there is lots of differents ways for thinking and percieving the reality.
powair
04-24-2007, 10:33 PM
There really is no question that reality is subjective. If by the laws of attraction you mean that whole "the secret" thing, i don't necessarily buy that. It's not always a matter of manifesting your own reality. Subjective reality implies that perception is the only definitive aspect of it, and you cannot (generally) change/control your perception. Concrete "reality" implies truth and universality, two concepts that I believe do not truly exist.
Pipe Dreams
04-25-2007, 03:53 AM
Sounds like a big load of bullshit to me.
Runaway Jim
04-25-2007, 05:19 AM
YouTube - The Hubble Deep Field: The Most Important Image Ever Taken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-cXVWFw)
YouTube - The secret Beyond Matter [HarunYahya.com] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRm0pVSdoB8&mode=related&search)
trippy shit
xmordeciax
04-25-2007, 05:40 AM
in order to fully understand something yeas subjective reality becomes nessesary
xblackdogx
04-25-2007, 07:46 PM
powair-
so you believe in objective reality,
but describe one's perception as subjective reality...?
and how can you not change/control your perception?
your brain can only process x amount of data it receives
in a given day.
so if your thoughts and actions are constantly processing similar things,
it would seem as if you cannot change your perception, but if you become aware of other things in your life that your brain just wasn't processing before, there is a way to change your perception
HeallyRi
04-25-2007, 07:55 PM
What The Bleep Do We Know?
Down The Rabbit Hole
Reefer Rogue
04-25-2007, 09:09 PM
Sounds do exist unheard (soundwaves + dog whistles)
Do things disappear when i don't see them? Why are they still there when i return to them? If there are no material objects, there is no way of telling illusions from reality.
Oneironaut
04-25-2007, 11:01 PM
Make no mistake about it. There is an objective reality. All subjective experiences can ultimately be reduced to objective phenomena: physical brains with its neurons and various chemicals arranged in a particular way.
That's not to say that subjectivity isn't important. The mere fact that we have subjective experiences to begin with dictates a lot about the kind of universe we live in. We have to live in the kind of universe where atoms can stay together, where heavy elements can be fused together in star cores and supernova explosions, where self-replicating molecules can use complex combinations of these heavy elements to undergo Darwinian natural selection, and where evolution can give rise to brains capable of processing information about the universe.
Our subjectivity is a way for the universe to understand itself, and arguably this is necessary in order for a universe to exist in any meaningful sense. After all, if a universe does not contain conscious beings who could ever possibly observe its existence, in what sense does it really exist? A universe that is never observed and never observable does not seem to be any different from a non-existent universe. According to this view, the universe exists because we do, and vice versa, so the existence of subjectivity and objectivity are dependent on each other.
I'm not entirely sure that existence really ought to be defined like that, but it's an interesting philosophical train of thought to follow anyways.
azure
04-26-2007, 12:41 AM
well that website got bookmarked. and yes it clearly exists as mindstate to me which can be utilised in various situations
azure
04-26-2007, 12:43 AM
Sounds like a big load of bullshit to me.
try understanding the text before making snap judgements, really, understanding this can benefit you
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