I don't care if there is a God

[geonagual]

I am in this stage in my life


I do not know what happens when I die
I do not know if their is a God
or if their isn't
and I dont care
I am just gonna take my chances. Why waste my time in this life...that I know I have and I am apart of, then learn about something that really only concerns me once I die. I have control over my destiny, live my life to the fullest, be kind to people and not concern myself over it and when I die, I die...then I will find out if I was right or if I was wrong..

I see it
as nobody knows what is the right religion or belief....whatever one you choose....you have about the same chance as me and plus you've wasted your time in this life on a bunch of stuff that just might not be true. It was written by man...so, although you think and feel that you know...you truly do not know.

even people believe in God and religion put down other religions and say that they are wrong and they are right...the whole thing is idiotic. IMO

[froman471]

yea man carpe diem

why waste ur time being devout for something as intangible as heaven and hell.

Life is about the here and now not the future.

plus even if there is a god im pretty sure it wants pople to live thier lives to the fullest:rastasmoke:

[dannyboy420]

I'm guessing you are pretty young, yes? Not suggesting you're feelings are immature at all -- they're very valid.

Those just sound like the words of someone in their teens or early 20s.

[xblackdogx]

i DEFINITELY oppose organized religion as we know it,
but given the infinite possiblities on the smallest level (quan physics) and the complexities of humans (and everything in natue) juxtaposed with E=mc^2 and all the UNKNOWNS,
it's pretty safe to say that everything that is probably has a creator

[PsychoticEpisode]

I am in this stage in my life


I do not know what happens when I die
I do not know if their is a God
or if their isn't
and I dont care


That's the conclusion I came to after many years of pointless discussions, reading and naval gazing. We've got about as much chance of understanding existence as an ant has of understanding differential calculus.

Man created god in his own image.

[Pass That Shit]

Why start a thread titled I don't care if there is a God?

If you don't care, why waste your breath telling us?

[PsychoticEpisode]

Why start a thread titled I don't care if there is a God?

If you don't care, why waste your breath telling us?

I think if you look at the original post again you'll see that he's clearly given some thought to his lack of interest in god, and the reasons for his lack of interest are interesting to me at least. If they aren't of interest to you why are you wasting your time responding to this thread?

The title of the thread "I don't care if there is a god" seems very appropriate and relevant to a thread about not caring if there is a god. Not sure where you're coming from with that criticism.

[Samwhore]

I am God. Nothing is going to happen unless I make it happen, I am my own creator, and savior. Only I can define who I am and where I go in life. I don't need a idea of a man to tell me how I should live my life.

[Zspecdrifter]

i DEFINITELY oppose organized religion as we know it,
but given the infinite possiblities on the smallest level (quan physics) and the complexities of humans (and everything in natue) juxtaposed with E=mc^2 and all the UNKNOWNS,
it's pretty safe to say that everything that is probably has a creator


Interesting, is that actually true?, or are you bsing, I actually do agree with your statement. However the bible is a good tool, its interesting, funny, as well as a pretty good source of how to live your life. Its also very comforting.
(says me whos scared shitless of death)

[jdmarcus59]

I am in this stage in my life


I do not know what happens when I die
I do not know if their is a God
or if their isn't
and I dont care
I am just gonna take my chances. Why waste my time in this life...that I know I have and I am apart of, then learn about something that really only concerns me once I die. I have control over my destiny, live my life to the fullest, be kind to people and not concern myself over it and when I die, I die...then I will find out if I was right or if I was wrong..

I see it
as nobody knows what is the right religion or belief....whatever one you choose....you have about the same chance as me and plus you've wasted your time in this life on a bunch of stuff that just might not be true. It was written by man...so, although you think and feel that you know...you truly do not know.

even people believe in God and religion put down other religions and say that they are wrong and they are right...the whole thing is idiotic. IMO
well why dont you just cry about it.(jim carry)

[bobbygreenbear]

i guess to me it's what i think about more than anything; where did we come from, why are we here, what is (cliche-warning) the meaning of life?


to me, if we exploded and then non-biogenically formed into organisms that turned into bigger better, harrier organisms, it just doesn't feel right. i look at the world and i see all this beauty, and i wonder "why do i find this beautiful", what makes me think something is beautiful and something else isn't? and i just can't take everything down to a primitive need for survival. there seems to me there is more in the world, and more in myself than that, and i wonder where it came from, and "chance" doesn't satisfy me


peace ;)

[JaggedEdge]

I'm with you bro. Plus once we get old we can always just become born again christians, just in case. lol

Sorry, I know a lot of older people who had a shit load of fun when they were young, but as soon as they hit 50 or 60 they started getting scared and suddenly found Jesus...

[geonagual]

I'm with you bro. Plus once we get old we can always just become born again christians, just in case. lol

Sorry, I know a lot of older people who had a shit load of fun when they were young, but as soon as they hit 50 or 60 they started getting scared and suddenly found Jesus...

YEah, you never know. At least with this stance I can change my mind either way that looks best. I am not locked into one belief or the other.

[JaggedEdge]

YEah, you never know. At least with this stance I can change my mind either way that looks best. I am not locked into one belief or the other.

I was being sarcastic. I can't stand the old folks who lived a fun life and suddenly start preaching about the evils of drinking and all that crap. I'm only referring to the ones who become "great" christians at 70 years old and now look at me like I'm the devil because of my beliefs and actions.

But yes, you are right. If something happens in your life, that makes you believe in god than great. If something happens in your life that makes you certain god can't exist, that's fine too.

I'm not sure if this made since, my dog just woke me up to be taken out, I can't go back to sleep, and I'm still really tired. ;)

[mamma puffpuff420]

I am God. Nothing is going to happen unless I make it happen, I am my own creator, and savior. Only I can define who I am and where I go in life. I don't need a idea of a man to tell me how I should live my life.

aww quote's from a true satin worshiper
i never put any1 down for there belief's
but u r not and never will b a god
u r not ur own creator and how u gonna save urself when satin want's his due's...hummmm?
but we were all givein the ability 2 make choise's
1 can believe there is 1 true GOD and and a wonderous Heaven
or 1 could choose satin and a terrifing eternity
so what would i want??
hummmm
i cant stand heat

geo. im sorry u think the way u do about God
u have 2 believe in something my freind
and i cant tell u how many mirical's have happined 2 me in my life
and when i keep a positive attitude it just seem's more good thing's just keep's happining 2 me
when i think negitivaly bad thing's happin
Dont give up on God
just keep all the good in u 4 every 1 2 c
faith my friend faith

[Delta9 UK]

i never put any1 down for there belief's
but u r not and never will b a god


Hmm, OK let's ignore the blatant irony for 1 second....

What if Samwhore is actually christ reborn? You just majorly insulted the second coming! I mean you can't be sure - love they neighbour and all that ;) Wouldn't it be better to accept your differences and move one, you know - turn the other cheek?

But saying you won't put someone down for their beliefs and then spending your post doing that, well.... let's say SamWhore made more sense.

[zsouj]

Oh my little friends, every wonder in nature, cannabis itself is a beautiful proof of God's existence :)

[Oneironaut]

i DEFINITELY oppose organized religion as we know it,
but given the infinite possiblities on the smallest level (quan physics) and the complexities of humans (and everything in natue) juxtaposed with E=mc^2 and all the UNKNOWNS,
it's pretty safe to say that everything that is probably has a creator

Wait, what? What does quantum mechanics have to do with a creator? What do the complexities created by Darwinian natural selection have to do with a creator? And what does relativity have to do with a creator? To me, all this looks like powerful evidence that the universe is mindless, following strict mathematical rules that break down to probabilistic functions on a small scale. The universe, so far as we can tell, is deterministic with the exception of some randomness at the quantum level.

Most importantly, it is a grave logical fallacy to say "There is something important that's unknown about X, therefore I know the cause of X must be Y." There's lots of shit we don't know because we haven't put the time and mental effort into figuring it out, or because there's just not enough information available to us. In the Middle Ages we hardly knew anything scientific about the universe. Would it therefore have been justifiable for someone in the Middle Ages to say that diseases and earthquakes and the weather and the stars prove the existence of God's intervention, simply because the causes of these things were unknown at the time?

[Samwhore]

aww quote's from a true satin worshiper
i never put any1 down for there belief's
but u r not and never will b a god


According to my religion, I am my own god. According to yours (I'm just assuming) god is a higher power.

Think of it this way, was life in the B.C. era any worse or better spiritually speaking? When there in fact, was "no god" (even though B.C. is Christ, ignore God for now) many of the people got along because they all had the same values and they never fought because they never believed anything other than what everyone else did. Maybe they shouldn't have gone with the herd, but spiritually speaking, they all got along better than before Christ was born.

[geonagual]

I still dont care either way, at this point. LOL

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Oh my little friends, every wonder in nature, cannabis itself is a beautiful proof of God's existence :)

it could be considered proof of the infinite diversity of random chance.

either way, i'm pretty sure that anyone who begins such a statement on so condescending a tone could be considered a friend.:hippy:

[40oz]

According to my religion, I am my own god. According to yours (I'm just assuming) god is a higher power.

Think of it this way, was life in the B.C. era any worse or better spiritually speaking? When there in fact, was "no god" (even though B.C. is Christ, ignore God for now) many of the people got along because they all had the same values and they never fought because they never believed anything other than what everyone else did. Maybe they shouldn't have gone with the herd, but spiritually speaking, they all got along better than before Christ was born.

what? people fought all the time before religion came around. If anything religion was used to control mass populaces so anchient governemnts could control their citizens. It kinda saved the human race from mob rule.

[Samwhore]

what? people fought all the time before religion came around. If anything religion was used to control mass populaces so anchient governemnts could control their citizens. It kinda saved the human race from mob rule.

Well, none of us can really prove that because we didn't live in that time. I was more referring to the Greeks and Egyptians. When their was no god, how they all got along.

[JaggedEdge]

Well, none of us can really prove that because we didn't live in that time. I was more referring to the Greeks and Egyptians. When their was no god, how they all got along.

God aside... You can't say people were more peaceful in the old days. Maybe I'm missing the point here, but many wars were fought before as well as after the birth of Jesus. I do agree that to much blood has been shed in the name of god however.

List of wars before 1000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_before_1000)

[delusionsofNORMALity]

I do agree that to much blood has been shed in the name of god however.

i sometimes think that religion doesn't really cause these bloody conflicts, it merely gives us an excuse to do what we most enjoy - killing each other.

[JaggedEdge]

i sometimes think that religion doesn't really cause these bloody conflicts, it merely gives us an excuse to do what we most enjoy - killing each other.

I think that is a very valid point. We has humans do have a sick lust for war. I will be honest, it is one of my favorite things to study and read about in history.

I find the Knights Templar the most interessting. It could be an excuse for people to do what they want, but in some cases religious belief shows who is to be hated and destroyed. Or I should say, religion has influence into who should be hated and destroyed.

I'm really high and don't know if that makes much sense...

[mamma puffpuff420]

[quote=Delta9 UK] ;) Wouldn't it be better to accept your differences and move one, you know - turn the other cheek?

But saying you won't put someone down for their beliefs and then spending your post doing that, well....

i didnt put samwhore down
that would b disrespectful
i just made a statement
we have different spirtual belief's thats all
that doesnt mean i think she is a bad person
quit the opposit, she's a very nice young lady
she has alsway been polite 2 me
id smoke with her anyday
not sure id smoke with u tho

[Polymirize]

Because you Delta... Are most definately a very very bad person.



But that's cool in my book. I'll still smoke with you.


Anyway, my two cents on this is to ignore god entirely, and put your faith in man. Maybe if we believe in him a little more he'll start to believe in himself, and even start to work some of his shit out. If god existed, I'm sure he'd understand.

[mamma puffpuff420]

[quote=Polymirize]Because you Delta... Are most definately a very very bad person.



But that's cool in my book. I'll still smoke with you.


Anyway, (my two cents)mwahahahahahahah
on this is to ignore god entirely, and put your faith in man. Maybe if we believe in him a little more he'll start to believe in himself, and even start to work some of his shit out. If god existed, I'm sure he'd understand.[/QUOTE

this is the dumbest post i have seen
and u also need 2 mind ur own fucking business

[Polymirize]

uh huh...

What gets me is, how did you know I happened to have an evil laugh right as I typed "two cents"?

creepy.

[zsouj]

Guys... I think you're falling into the big mistake of thinking that "God = religion". Here's my point:

A religion is not more than a culture, made by HUMANS, with its own rites and beliefs.. but God, (if there is one) isn't there in heaven just approving or rejecting cultures (religions), God is a spiritual thing, who goes beyond ANY religion or human culture.

Religions shoud be, in essence, no more than "spiritual paths". However, mankind has always made the mistake of thinking that everything is a matter of rituals and laws, ignoring the true essence, which is 100% spiritual, and therefore making war on other religions, however, it's just a matter of ignorance and disrespect for other cultures.

So religions have been the cause of thousand wars and conflict, but it's all human error, God instead, is a being beyond our comprehension, beyond human culture, who is somewhere just loving us, and he doesn't wish us to convert ourselves to one religion or another, he just wants us to love, love each other, love him, just love.

Don't think of God as a supreme punisher, think of God as the source of all life, all love, all that is good, no matter how he looks or what's the scientific explanation, you can call it darwinian evolution, you can call it "The Big Bang" or "infinite diversity of random chance", it doesn't matter... in any way, there is a source, and that source, my friends, gotta be freaking wise... and very cool.

[40oz]

Why does everybody always assume god loves humans so much? God could just as much hate us as he could love us, I mean, we are basically destroying our planet. Humans use up way more than their share of nature. Everything else out there lives in naturally harmony with eachother...humans push other life forms out and manipulate everything to be more useful for us.

[zsouj]

because assuming there is a God, and assuming he hates us... then we wouldn't exist, he's God you know...

[40oz]

Maybe....but Im just saying maybe god is a sadist. There is enough evidence is the last thousand years of history to argue that god likes seeing humans suffer as much as he does seeing us happy.

[zsouj]

how do you know he "likes" it?... just because he allows it?

I'll tell you what I believe: even if God is a supreme ruler of the universe, it's part of his loving nature to allow us to have "free will", and you can't blame neither God nor anything else because of our own ignorance

[zsouj]

Boy, I can't proof God's existence... neither you can proof God's inexistence... it's just a matter of faith, period.

(however, I wasn't trying to proof God's existence, I was just making my point about the big difference between believing in a religion and believing in God. For instance: I don't believe in religions anymore, yet I do believe in God, but as I said, it's a matter of faith, and I think believers should respect those who doesn't believe, and those who doesn't believe should respect us who believe. "judge not")

[mamma puffpuff420]

uh huh...

What gets me is, how did you know I happened to have an evil laugh right as I typed "two cents"?

creepy.

i can feel u rite thru the internet j/j
mayb were on a same wave length
mwahahahahahaaha

[geonagual]

Why does everybody always assume god loves humans so much? God could just as much hate us as he could love us, I mean, we are basically destroying our planet. Humans use up way more than their share of nature. Everything else out there lives in naturally harmony with eachother...humans push other life forms out and manipulate everything to be more useful for us.


Very true...I like that thinking. If there was a God, which I am not saying there is...human beings have to be the most dissapointing creation he ever made. We have made a mockery of life, lost touch with nature and of a peaceful existence.

[Tony1234567890]

Aight, I know I'm new but everyone was new at one time or another so forgive me if I step on anybodys toes on this one.

Let's say that there is no god, no heaven and no hell. What have the people who beleive lost? If there is no god, no heaven, no hell, then nobody will have anything to complain about.

Now the flip side.

Let's say there IS a God, there IS a Heaven and there IS a hell. What have the people who do not beleive lost? There is literally hell to pay if you are wrong.

Is it worth it? Now I'm not saying to give your entire life in the hopes that there is a god, but if you give him a chance, if you really ask, if you really try, he will show you he is real.

I beleive in God, I beleive in Jesus Christ as his son, I beleive in the Holy Bible as His word. I've had Him prove it to me because I gave him a chance. I let my guard down, I let my anger go, I let everything go and just asked, didn't happen instantly it did take some time but He personally showed me that he exists.

If you are wrong, is it worth it? At least give Him a shot. Not five seconds. Give the man an actual chance, let go of all doubt and try it.

[40oz]

So you believe in jesus so you won't go to hell?

[Polymirize]

Let's say there IS a God, there IS a Heaven and there IS a hell. What have the people who do not beleive lost? There is literally hell to pay if you are wrong.

Is it worth it? Now I'm not saying to give your entire life in the hopes that there is a god, but if you give him a chance, if you really ask, if you really try, he will show you he is real.



I'm sure God will greatly reward your faith in cost-benefit analysis...

[darth stoner]

Aight, I know I'm new but everyone was new at one time or another so forgive me if I step on anybodys toes on this one.

Let's say that there is no god, no heaven and no hell. What have the people who beleive lost? If there is no god, no heaven, no hell, then nobody will have anything to complain about.

Now the flip side.

Let's say there IS a God, there IS a Heaven and there IS a hell. What have the people who do not beleive lost? There is literally hell to pay if you are wrong.

Is it worth it? Now I'm not saying to give your entire life in the hopes that there is a god, but if you give him a chance, if you really ask, if you really try, he will show you he is real.

I beleive in God, I beleive in Jesus Christ as his son, I beleive in the Holy Bible as His word. I've had Him prove it to me because I gave him a chance. I let my guard down, I let my anger go, I let everything go and just asked, didn't happen instantly it did take some time but He personally showed me that he exists.

If you are wrong, is it worth it? At least give Him a shot. Not five seconds. Give the man an actual chance, let go of all doubt and try it.


Now what if this God instead rewards the ones that have tries to seek out the truth as best as they could, and punishes the ones that helplessly took what others said for granted ?

Why assume a God would reward belief in him more than being honest and good to others ? By definition the (christian/catholic) god is benevolent, so that doesn't make sense.

What if YOU are wrong ? You've lost a whole (and the single one you had) life being deceived and believing on something that wasn't real. I'd rather take my chances and either become dust when I die or explain the god up there that I never believed in him, but I was a nice guy who smoked some nice joints with some other nice guys, had a nice life and a nice job and made others happy, while also enjoying life myself.

A true good and benevolent god wouldn't send me to hell for that.

Wouldn't you agree ?

[Melkane]

I don't believe or disbelieve in a "god" there is as much evidence for as against one (which is zero) What I do know is that I am here and I do know that I want to be happy. My philosophy is to treat others the way I want to be treated. Live my life in striving to have fun and in the end I hope that whatever belief or non-belief is true, that being a normal good person will be enough. I cannot and will not live my life to something that is unproveable. I also find many religions to be highly hypocritical and the cause of much suffering in the world.

Added note I also feel we should (as in human race) to further our knowledge of the world. Not to explain away things we don't understand with superstitions but to really find out how things work and why things are the way they are.

[PureEvil760]

God does'nt care what you think of him, it will just patiently wait for you to discover it. The closer you get to God, the closer God gets to you.