Virginia Tech shooting

[Purple Banana]

Chief: At least 20 dead in Virginia Tech campus shootings - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vtech.shooting/index.html)

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How could someone do that? It's like Columbine all over again, except more people. The toll has risen to 22 people dead...

Anyone on the boards affected by this insane tragedy, my heart goes out to you...

[Acouwaila]

Yeah, ive been watching the news. This is a tragedy.

Some people from my graduating class go there...

Its so sad = (

[planterz]

I just watched the columbine video of the kids shooting people then shooting them selfs...Scary shit man scary shit

[exhashsmoker]

Its another terrible targedy in American schools! Why do the US government insist on having such ridiculous gun laws! How many kids need to die before they will change? Why do these shootings only ever seem to happen in America? You would think they would put 2 + 2 together!

[TheFatKid]

Its not the guns, its the mental condition and ignorance of mankind.

[exhashsmoker]

Its not the guns, its the mental condition and ignorance of mankind.

Of course its the guns without the guns those people would be still alive! Granted the person that did it must have been fucked up but without the guns this would probably never have happened. Why does this only seem to regularly occur in America?

[TheFatKid]

Its not the guns. If it wasn't for him having whatever mental condition telling him to do this, it would've never happened. Even if guns were illegal, do you know how easy it is to make homemade bombs or even get in contact with an illegal arms dealer?

[smoke it]

Of course its the guns without the guns those people would be still alive! Granted the person that did it must have been fucked up but without the guns this would probably never have happened. Why does this only seem to regularly occur in America?

they would have gotten guns illegaly or just made a bomb or something. it is still a tragedy.

[exhashsmoker]

Its not the guns. If it wasn't for him having whatever mental condition telling him to do this, it would've never happened. Even if guns were illegal, do you know how easy it is to make homemade bombs or even get in contact with an illegal arms dealer?

Answer me this why does this only ever seem to happen regularly in the US?

[smoke it]

cause everyone hates us and we have some pretty retarded citizens within our country

[TheFatKid]

cause everyone hates us and we have some pretty retarded citizens within our country

Exactly, put it this way. George Bush is our president, and Al Sharpton basically runs who gets persecuted for racism and who doesn't.

[Pipe Dreams]

Yeah this shit is fucked up! 22 dead, 17 injured so far. I turned on the news this morning to see this shit. Its rediculous, whoever did this is just such a piece of shit.

[timothylearyisdead]

Man half the people I know from high school go there. Some of my best friends do and I still haven't heard from them. I'm seriously considering driving over there right now to see if I know anyone that was murdered, but they probably wouldn't let me in. I'm still in shock.

[pabloescobar209]

This made me think of a song by Ill Bill called the anatomy of a school shooting

[ATrain]

Terrible tragedy :(

[higher4hockey]

Its another terrible targedy in American schools! Why do the US government insist on having such ridiculous gun laws! How many kids need to die before they will change? Why do these shootings only ever seem to happen in America? You would think they would put 2 + 2 together!

how did i know a response like this was coming. coming from someone who smokes weed and sees what kind of damage having weed illegal causes. imagine if all guns were illegal, that would create ten times the crime here in the US.

why do these things happen only in the US i dont konw, but its damn sure not because of our gun laws.

[slipknotpsycho]

Of course its the guns without the guns those people would be still alive! Granted the person that did it must have been fucked up but without the guns this would probably never have happened. Why does this only seem to regularly occur in America?

you know i really hate to tell you this... but the uk has made guns 'illegal', and crime hasn't decreased, infact it increased... outlawing guns does absolutely nothing, except possibly take an innocent person's only defense against a gun wielding maniac....

it's not hard to get a gun, even if they're illegal... you can buy one on the street for just a couple hundred.... there's just so many guns on the planet, no matter where you look you can find one...

matter of fact, if you know the right people you can even buy them CHEAPER then they're sold for in the stores.... since all they did was steal them from a buisness, or someone's house...

[Purple Banana]

Now it's 32 dead...

People will kill people whether they have a gun or not... Are we gonna outlaw knives? Hands can kill you, why shouldn't we chop those off?

It's not the weapon, it's the user...


EDIT:

Answer me this why does this only ever seem to happen regularly in the US?

Thanks for pointing this out... /sarcasm

We get enough bull from other nations blaming us for the actions of our despised president, do you think you could lay off the country as a whole? We're well aware our nation is in a need of a spanking without someone pointing it out for us.

[timothylearyisdead]

wow this is officially by far the biggest shooting rampage in US history now, only a couple minutes from my house, probably involving some of my best friends. what the fuck.

[BizzleLuvin]

this is the talk of the campus right now. i have a feeling we will be watching the news in poli-sci today.

[Purple Banana]

Holy shit, now it's 42 fatalities...

This is the only time I will ever watch Fox news, I promise :P

[MacWQ33]

Guns don't kill people, just like drugs don't.

Anyway, Tim and whoever else, keep us posted. Hope noone you know was involved. Horrible shit.

[pabloescobar209]

you know i really hate to tell you this... but the uk has made guns 'illegal', and crime hasn't decreased, infact it increased... outlawing guns does absolutely nothing, except possibly take an innocent person's only defense against a gun wielding maniac....

it's not hard to get a gun, even if they're illegal... you can buy one on the street for just a couple hundred.... there's just so many guns on the planet, no matter where you look you can find one...

matter of fact, if you know the right people you can even buy them CHEAPER then they're sold for in the stores.... since all they did was steal them from a buisness, or someone's house...

Exactly, when you outlaw guns you prevent decent people who register and safely use guns from having protection, drug dealers, and murders don't and can't buy guns legally. This kid was just crazy, like Chris Rock said in 99 "What ever happened to crazy, What you can't be crazy no more?"

[yoda]

Holy shit, now it's 42 fatalities...

This is the only time I will ever watch Fox news, I promise :P

that is a shitload of fatalities. the number has only been steadily increasing. when i first heard, it was 1 casualty. by the time i was in class 2 hrs ago, it was 20 deaths. ughhh this is sickening.

i will smoke bowls in the honor of those who no longer will live life soon.

[Purple Banana]

Supposedly "A man of Asian descent" was carrying a bookbag, and then whipped out some chains, chained the doors shut, and then lined everyone up, and shot them execution style...

Just the thought of that makes me want to spit on his dead body...

Do you think if someone went up to him, and offered him a bowl, would he have chilled out?

This makes me sick.

[yoda]

Supposedly "A man of Asian descent" was carrying a bookbag, and then whipped out some chains, chained the doors shut, and then lined everyone up, and shot them execution style...

Just the thought of that makes me want to spit on his dead body...

Do you think if someone went up to him, and offered him a bowl, would he have chilled out?

This makes me sick.

if he asks for a shotgun, he's not getting one

[Purple Banana]

if he asks for a shotgun, he's not getting one

Oh gawd, you're going to hell, and so am I for laughing at that...

(;))

[timothylearyisdead]

they haven't released any names yet, and nobody I called answered their phone...

[yoda]

Oh gawd, you're going to hell, and so am I for laughing at that...

(;))

yeah probably way to soon for any kind of joke, but somehow i couldnt resist

dont forget to have a banana sticking out of your pants

[slipknotpsycho]

what kinda gun was used? i just watched this video on aol caught on a cell phone.... you can hear the gun shots.... i heard atleast 50 over a period of 40-50 seconds....

[Purple Banana]

So does that mean you're coming?!

I'll have red shoes, a dictator Pink shirt on, and I'll be in the front left.

I have a purple purse, so I'll stick the nanner in there :D

EDIT: Sounded like a handgun, that's what the news said...

EDIT: He was using two 9mm.

[MacWQ33]

they haven't released any names yet, and nobody I called answered their phone...

Your friends parents must be having a heartattack. Have you tried to get a hold of them?

[yoda]

So does that mean you're coming?!

I'll have red shoes, a dictator Pink shirt on, and I'll be in the front left.

I have a purple purse, so I'll stick the nanner in there :D

EDIT: Sounded like a handgun, that's what the news said...

ive asked one friend who's a huge floyd fan, he's interested in going. i dunno how work schedules will work out though, im off, dunno about him. plus i have plans to see ATHF. id say theres only a 20% chance im going :\ .

[higher4hockey]

slip, thats what i was thinking. he must have had some serious weaponry to get 32 of them.

edit: apparently he had two 9mm handguns (according to the news)

[Purple Banana]

He was using two 9mm says Fox and CNN...

[BUZz UK]

Peace to the people who got shot, and their family, friends etc. Thats some fucked up shit.

[slipknotpsycho]

slip, thats what i was thinking. he must have had some serious weaponry to get 32 of them.

well... considering what i heard on that video... he either had some serious gun, or a hell of alot of ammo...

if he was using 2 9mm's... he brought alot of ammo... just makes you wonder how many he intended on taking out...

[higher4hockey]

buzzuk~yeah cause making somehitng illegal sure gets rid of it :rolleyes: get real.

[timothylearyisdead]

Your friends parents must be having a heartattack. Have you tried to get a hold of them?

I'm gonna do that right now. I'm gonna stop by a few of their houses to go see how they're holding up.

[LIP]

Its not the guns. If it wasn't for him having whatever mental condition telling him to do this, it would've never happened. Even if guns were illegal, do you know how easy it is to make homemade bombs or even get in contact with an illegal arms dealer?

You've got a point - even though guns are illegal over here in England i could get one for a few hundred in 20 mins -

We're getting kids shot everyday here in London even though guns are illegal, and it's because it's so easy to get them.

[BUZz UK]

well, i'd find it a lot harder to get a gun than going and taking one from under daddy's bed...

[Reefer Rogue]

Absolutely dreadful. I feel so bad for all the families.

[slipknotpsycho]

well, i'd find it a lot harder to get a gun than going and taking one from under daddy's bed...

there's more guns on the streets, then legal guns in households...

[Purple Banana]

Fox announced they made a mistake, it's only 32 dead, not 42... Thank goodness, but still...

[Pipe Dreams]

Man, if you think making guns illegal is the way to go, then YOU are the retard here. What would YOU do (being a law abiding citizen) if someone pulled a gun on you? Now the gun he would be holding is ILLEGAL! HE STILL HAS THE GUN, YET YOU HAVE NOTHING. If you take away the guns, then the real bad mother fuckers have yet another leg up on you. Think before you put your lopsided, idiotic garbage views out for other poor souls to read.:S4: :S4: :S4:

[slipknotpsycho]

hey, if i could erase guns from existance, i would... they do more harm then goood... but since they are here.... the only other choice is to arm yourself for the chance that you might need it...

accidents happen by stupid people.... don't keep the gun loaded, keep a lock on it, or in a gun safe... yeah shit happens, but most of the accidental shootings could have been prevented with the most basic gun saftey or keeping it locked and in the top of a closet, away from small children.

[40oz]

This is a tradgedy. I know some people that go to that school...hopefully they are ok.

I really dont think making guns illegal would have stopped this from happening. If a person wants to shoot people he will shoot people, regardless of any gun laws.

[slipknotpsycho]

oh my fucking god... they're starting in with the whole violent video game shit now....

"the game doom so and so trained on to do what he did, is the same game so and so trained on to do what he did"

[Reefer Rogue]

Let's just try and keep this thread chill and do what is most important by showing respect for the families involved.

That's ridiculous to blame video games but the public are demanding an answer, they have to give something don't they =/

[slipknotpsycho]

as stated already...

"what ever happened to crazy... can't you just be crazy anymore?"

[MacWQ33]

oh my fucking god... they're starting in with the whole violent video game shit now....

"the game doom so and so trained on to do what he did, is the same game so and so trained on to do what he did"

Yeah, I was just going to comment on that. "Trained" using a video game? Come on now.

[Purple Banana]

Pfft. 'Trained' to kill with video games is like actually believing Kenan could land the plane in Snakes on a Plane because he used Microsoft Flight Simulator...

[LIP]

It's just another excuse, the world is full of excuses - as long as it shuts people up it'll do - doesnt matter about the truth - and what can we expect? When have they EVER told us the truth?

[pabloescobar209]

Pfft. 'Trained' to kill with video games is like actually believing Kenan could land the plane in Snakes on a Plane because he used Microsoft Flight Simulator...

Actually its believed that the hijackers on 9/11 used Flight Simulator to familiarize themselves with the newyork, and dc skyline.

[Purple Banana]

Actually its believed that the hijackers on 9/11 used Flight Simulator to familiarize themselves with the newyork, and dc skyline.

A bit offtopic, but landing a plane is much different than crashing it into a building...

[pabloescobar209]

It's just another excuse, the world is full of excuses - as long as it shuts people up it'll do - doesnt matter about the truth - and what can we expect? When have they EVER told us the truth?

Never, in this case the media is having a field day. Every single day all we see in the US is story after story about the "crisis at the border" and the war in Iraq, now for the next week or two those two issued wont take a backseat, but will completely disappear, just like they did when anna nichole died. It's the drive by media.

[slipknotpsycho]

A bit offtopic, but landing a plane is much different than crashing it into a building...

yeah with landings, if everything isn't perfect, it can be a total disaster.... but it's kinda hard to fuck up crashing a plane into a building, especially when it's already in air... all you really gotta do is steer it...

[pabloescobar209]

A bit offtopic, but landing a plane is much different than crashing it into a building...

I know but If you have ever played the game its very clear how the game would lend a helping hand.

[Purple Banana]

Oh, I love playing it, it's great fun, but it's quite different in real life, I presume :)

[Markass]

That's nuts...What the fuck would make someone have such disregard for human life? I could never ever bring myself to harm another person without my person being in direct danger...Life is invaluable and should be treated that way by everyone..if only.

[pabloescobar209]

Oh, I love playing it, it's great fun, but it's quite different in real life, I presume :)

I'm not talking about the actual controls of the plane, I'm saying the view of the city from the air, it would make it much eaiser to crash a plane into a building when you have viewed it from that perspective.

[BUZz UK]

lol, i didn't say police shouldn't have them. However, the British police get into firefights a HELL of a lot less than yank police. I'm not saying Britain is great or anything, it's a shithole, and i'm not bashing the US, i just hate guns.

[BUZz UK]

Your entitled to your opinion - but what are you going to do if some of the thugs hold a gun up to you? Are you going to let them shoot you? Or would you want to at least match them?

lol, so you carry a gun then?

[Purple Banana]

I'm not talking about the actual controls of the plane, I'm saying the view of the city from the air, it would make it much eaiser to crash a plane into a building when you have viewed it from that perspective.

OHH... Yeah, then definately, it would give you a good idea. I see where you're going...

[LIP]

lol, so you carry a gun then?

I'm not going to incriminate myself. But i think im entitled to protection. It's not like im going to shoot someone for looking at me funny - infact IF i had a gun i dont even think i'd carry it loaded - it's more for scaring the person - you know - are they stupid enough to take the chance.

You cant say i havnt got a point, especially with all these shootings around London.

Making guns illegal wouldnt change ANYTHING. Cannabis is illegal - does that stop it being EVERYWHERE? No, and it'd be the same with guns.

So you saying its because guns are legal, is completely completely wrong.

[pabloescobar209]

OHH... Yeah, then definately, it would give you a good idea. I see where you're going...

lol blame Microsoft:thumbsup:

[BUZz UK]

Again, Buzz, if you've ever lived in the US, particularly around large and crime-filled cities, you would know. Stop Americabashing, it's getting tiresome.

I wonder what this guy's motives were? Again, Crazy is Crazy, but still...

EDIT: Why am I always the first post at the top of each page? Weird...

rewind honey, read my previous posts.

[BUZz UK]

was talkin to lip.


and thanks for the rep saying 'your a piece of shit' pablo. nice one mate, hahaha.

:thumbsup:

[Purple Banana]

I did read your previous posts, and they still spout the same "Stupid America" yet retract with 'I'm not bashing America or anything'

I personally don't have a gun. My parents do though, and they keep it LOCKED and in a LOCKED cabinet. I live far away enough from the city to avoid trouble, but if you've ever had a gun pointed in your face (I have on 4 occasions when I went into the city) you wish right then and there that you had something to protect yourself... Wishing the world would stop using guns isn't going to do anything at that point, Buzz.

[pabloescobar209]

was talkin to lip.


and thanks for the rep saying 'your a piece of shit' pablo. nice one mate, hahaha.

:thumbsup:

Anytime, I expect one back in return:thumbsup:

[higher4hockey]

Buzz~ i know of a few people that have concealed weapons permits and carry at all times. hell im in the process of buying a handgun, and you can bet your bottom dollar i'll be heading down to the sheriffs dept. to apply for one.

i think you should read this buzz
On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave Grossman (http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html)

[greenmeanie]

BUZz_UK: I don't think ANYBODY here is saying we should all carry guns. We all know that is a stupid argument.

What I believe LIP and a lot of people are saying is the following (what I personally believe) -- Gun ownership should be legal, and 100% controlled by the government. You should be able to go into a gun shop and apply for a firearm permit. Then after a background check and wait period, they'll sell you a legal gun. You must have the permit on you at all times if you wish to carry the gun outside your home. If you are found with the gun but no permit, it would get impounded immediately, no questions asked. In order to keep and renew your gun permit you must prove that you are taking proper precautions in your home by locking up the weapon and all ammunition.

If you make it legal and controlled to own a gun, then there will be no reason for illegal/stolen/black market weapons. Then less 17yo kids will be shooting up their crack dealers.

Make guns 100% illegal, and only criminals will have guns.

[timothylearyisdead]

Alright, on the topic of the thread, I got a hold of one of my friends there, he's ok, but he told me one of our friends was killed. I don't even know what to say anymore.

[pabloescobar209]

well, the whole world hates your country so fair brakes imo.


If you'd had a gun on you, and tried to pull it, you'd likely be dead now though, surely? if you had a gun 'in your face'? They would've killed you, wouldn't they?



actually, i positive repped you. Touche!


shit, you're right, it's ok people, i was wrong, guns are great! buy lots and hand them out to kiddies.



off the boards, ooh err, i'm shaking. How about we get a webcam convo going, so i can SHOW YOU MY BALLS?

You are a character Buzz, that I know for sure.

[BUZz UK]

anyone ever seen someone get stabbed with their own knife? or one person start a fight, then the other pull a knife as defense, only for the fight starter to pull his own knife? These are 2 experiences i'm using as reference points. You can't fight fire with fire...

[pabloescobar209]

Oh great Bush is about to make an ass out of himself talking about what happened

[pabloescobar209]

Ok guys lets not turn this into a slugfest.

[napolitana869]

All of you just need to stop. This isnt a gun control thread. This isnt americas problems thread. People are dead. Show some god damn respect

[LIP]

lol, you really have nothing at all to say when you've been blatently shat on. I'm off out, peace to the dead!

LOL - :thumbsup:

Your good. Well done!

[BUZz UK]

hahahahahahha

[Purple Banana]

I don't want another one of my threads deleted because of a bitchfest... So take to MSN, you guys...

TimothyLearyisDead... My heart goes out to you... That must be shocking news to hear, I hope no one else you know has suffered the same tragedy...

[napolitana869]

Alright, on the topic of the thread, I got a hold of one of my friends there, he's ok, but he told me one of our friends was killed. I don't even know what to say anymore.

I'm really sorry man. I hope that number doesn't get any bigger

[LIP]

I don't want another one of my threads deleted because of a bitchfest... So take to MSN, you guys...

TimothyLearyisDead... My heart goes out to you... That must be shocking news to hear, I hope no one else you know has suffered the same tragedy...

I know - this thread is not meant to be about gun legality.

My condolences go out to all those affected.

[exhashsmoker]

as stated already...

"what ever happened to crazy... can't you just be crazy anymore?"

"Crazy" seems to be all too prominent in the US.

I always liked Chris Rocks idea of making bullets â?¬5,000 dollars each that way you can still have your guns but its gonna cost you if you wanna kill somebody.

BTW I wouldn't know where to go to find a gun over here. None of my dealers or even their dealers dealers would carry or sell firearms, I would have more chance of finding a flying pig!

Buzz made a good point, your not going to carry a gun down the street with you for fear of being shot unless you live in a messed up area..There are plenty of other precautions you can take...l

Most people im sure only keep guns in the US for home security, so why buy a gun when you could get a decent security system..

[MacWQ33]

Alright, on the topic of the thread, I got a hold of one of my friends there, he's ok, but he told me one of our friends was killed. I don't even know what to say anymore.

Man, that's really shitty. I was really hoping you didn't hear any unfortunate news. I don't really know what to say in these situations, but my heart goes out to you, your friend, his family and anyone else affected by this unfortunate situation.

[exhashsmoker]

My bad..Ive said all I need to say..my sincerest condolences to the familys! peace out

[timothylearyisdead]

Man, that's really shitty. I was really hoping you didn't hear any unfortunate news. I don't really know what to say in these situations, but my heart goes out to you, your friend, his family and anyone else affected by this unfortunate situation.

Thanks man. It's only a matter of time before I find out if I knew anybody else...

[orangeman]

Damn, beat me to it lol. I was gonna come home and post a thread on it. But yeah that was fucked up, I was in school when a teacher came in and told us to turn the t.v. on CNN. I was like "damn, this is even worse than Columbine". It honestly scares me. Can't even be safe trying to go to school to get an education...:cursing: I think a law needs to be passed that allows teachers to be able to carried small handguns or something man because that is just pathetic. I hope the shooter burns in hell BAD.

[Greenport]

couple towns over

[BUZz UK]

bagsy last word

[BUZz UK]

me and lip are cool, we gave eachother platonic backrubs.

i'm sending flowers to all the families to make up for my insincerity on this internet message board.

[Purple Banana]

It'll be interesting to see how this story develops, if they ID the guy responsible for it.

Anyone else looking at the bomb/drug dogs sniffing around campus? I wonder if they found weed, what would they do?

"It's okay, we're just looking for bombs... Smoke it before the next set of dogs comes through here" Imagine what a huge break that'd be...

[exhashsmoker]

me and lip are cool, we gave eachother platonic backrubs.

i'm sending flowers to all the families to make up for my insincerity on this internet message board.

ROFL! completely inappropriate but very funny none the less.

[bobbygreenbear]

to anyone defending legal guns in this thread, WHAT THE FUCK? YOU RETARDS. If he had a knife, do you honestly think he could've stabbed 42 people?! Get fucking real, you only have to look at the amount of shooting deaths to see your country has gone wrong on the gun laws.


i think you miss the point

if you're going to impose severe gun laws, you must make it so that criminals cannot get them. for that to happen guns would practically have to be completely removed from society. and that's impossible. it would make it harder for criminals to get them, but it would make it hardest for honest folk to get them to defend themselves. the amount of smuggling would be unbelievable

don't get me wrong, i don't see any reason for assault weapons, and guns that have no other purpose than killing people to be legal; and i'd like the corrupt manufacturers who cater to criminals to be put behind bars

but in this case it doesn't seem that assault weapons were even used.

you could easily make the point that if another student had a gun then they could have taken the perp out and ended it; the length of time this went on, and the helplessness of the students, faculty, even police is what is staggering me


personally, i'd like all guns to be illegal and gone from the earth. i'd gladly hunt with a bow and arrow. i'd also remove atom bombs, chemical weapons, hell, everything that is made for killing people. the problem is that we can't do it.


so what do you do? if you outlaw guns those restrictions tend to come upon the people who would use them for protection, who acquire them LEGALLY. criminals and psychopaths can easily find them on the black market, anywhere in the world.

i think that the reason we have these killings in America has a lot more to do with our culture than our gun laws. i really can't spell it out, i can't put my finger on it, but there is a something severe and inhuman in our culture. in opposition to somewhere like canada, that is just more at ease. there is no ease in america. it is a land of dissatisfaction and a constant demand to succeed, succeed, succeed. all that being said, i don't claim to have my finger on the pulse. i don't know if i can really explain it, and i don't think we yet know why this person did what he did. if anything, i'd say that we, as a people, have lost a lot of our vision of the beauty and sanctity of human life. we've traded it for sex (and an oppressive demand to be attractive), money, popularity, and power

i think gun laws are important and necessary, but i doubt that that is the issue here

all my words are cheap, because there's nothing i can say to encapsulate the lives of these people who are now no longer living.


R.I.P. your lives were beautiful, and so will your memories

[MacWQ33]

What I don't understand is how did the first shooting happen at 7:15 and the second one 2 hours later? How did the shooter get to the other side of the campus unnoticed?

[napolitana869]

breaking news: 31 deaths including gunman. No ID on gunman

I'm pretty sure that my friend that goes there is ok. I havent talked to him though

[exhashsmoker]

Leave it out guys its over!

[smoking habit]

What I don't understand is how did the first shooting happen at 7:15 and the second one 2 hours later? How did the shooter get to the other side of the campus unnoticed?

I have a feeling it was 2 different shooters. They already stated that the police lead someone away in handcuffs before the second shooting even happened.

[timothylearyisdead]

What I don't understand is how did the first shooting happen at 7:15 and the second one 2 hours later? How did the shooter get to the other side of the campus unnoticed?

Because they didn't do anything about it at first. They didn't even tell anybody about it and let the day continue as usual.

[LIP]

I also appologise for the little pissfest - but it proves us stoners can all get along. Like i said before, my condolences go out to all those involved. I'm very sorry for anyones loss.

[bobbygreenbear]

don't keep the gun loaded, keep a lock on it, or in a gun safe

multiple locks; multiple safes, amo in one, gun in the other

i would support legislation to require home inspection and certification of "necessary standards of gun safety" like this. i don't see that it should be legal to leave guns lying around

[BDubz26062]

people are crazy

[surreys princess]

ENOUGH

i dont appreciate having to take all the time i had to use to delete all that bullshit you boys were spattering...i have better things to do...

some of you got infractions, and you know who you are..if this continues, i will ban whoever starts it....

i will leave this thread open because i know a lot of you want it to be, but one more argument, i am closing it...

grow up....

[BUZz UK]

he started it...

[BUZz UK]

hahahaah, no, i AM joking, we made up, it's all good :)

[Purple Banana]

Oh shit... I forgot my cousin goes there, he's one of the injured... Got shot in the upper back, missed his spinal cord, though. He'll be okay, I hope...

[timothylearyisdead]

Oh shit... I forgot my cousin goes there, he's one of the injured... Got shot in the upper back, missed his spinal cord, though. He'll be okay, I hope...

I'm sorry to hear that banana, but at least he didn't get killed. That's always a relief to know that he'll be ok.

[napolitana869]

Oh shit... I forgot my cousin goes there, he's one of the injured... Got shot in the upper back, missed his spinal cord, though. He'll be okay, I hope...

Oh man. Thank god it missed his spine.

[slipknotpsycho]

"Crazy" seems to be all too prominent in the US.

I always liked Chris Rocks idea of making bullets â?¬5,000 dollars each that way you can still have your guns but its gonna cost you if you wanna kill somebody.

BTW I wouldn't know where to go to find a gun over here. None of my dealers or even their dealers dealers would carry or sell firearms, I would have more chance of finding a flying pig!

Buzz made a good point, your not going to carry a gun down the street with you for fear of being shot unless you live in a messed up area..There are plenty of other precautions you can take...l

Most people im sure only keep guns in the US for home security, so why buy a gun when you could get a decent security system..

sorry to those who pointed out this thread isn't about gun control/us problems... but i can't let this go unanswered....

security systems are for burglars.... if someone's coming to your house to murder you, they're not gonna care if an alarm goes off... they got more then enough time to kick in the door, run in, shoot you (and you're probably gonna make it easier on them by runnning straight to the door) and get out...

security systems work on fear... they don't actually keep your home safe.... they detour burglars who could move on to an easier target...

and what about places of buisness, or being caught on the street? i dunno about you, but if someone's about to kill you, i'd rather die trying to get the first shot off, then just stand there like an idiot and be shot... it's a last resort oppurtunity... if someone's just trying to rob you, and doesn't seem like they're gonna shoot you, then it's best to not pull out a gun... but if you can tell they're intent is to rob and shoot (and you can...) then you might as well try to save yourself...

[NextLineIsMine]

christ im mad at whoever did this, theyre mad about things in their life and so full of themselves they think everyones lives are rightfully theirs to take

[slipknotpsycho]

Because they didn't do anything about it at first. They didn't even tell anybody about it and let the day continue as usual.

they did try to do something about, but there are alot of people there.... and i believe most of the eye witnesses were in no shape to even talk... they put the school on lock down, and later lifted it, not very long after they lifted it, the 2nd one happened....

or atleast that was the story when i was watching earlier..

[pabloescobar209]

ENOUGH

i dont appreciate having to take all the time i had to use to delete all that bullshit you boys were spattering...i have better things to do...

some of you got infractions, and you know who you are..if this continues, i will ban whoever starts it....

i will leave this thread open because i know a lot of you want it to be, but one more argument, i am closing it...

grow up....

If you don't like being a mod, then quit. Don't cry to us because you had to do your job.

[the last stand]

aahahahah.

[Acouwaila]

If you don't like being a mod, then quit. Don't cry to us because you had to do your job.

If-the-rules-were-followed-she-wouldn't-have-to.

[Psycho4Bud]

If you don't like being a mod, then quit. Don't cry to us because you had to do your job.

Did a bit further clean-up and for your information.......I ENJOY the hell out of being a mod........enjoy YOUR vacation!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[LIP]

If you don't like being a mod, then quit. Don't cry to us because you had to do your job.

Thank god your banned.

[surreys princess]

not funny pablo.......not at all...what ac said is right...if some of these members werent so childish i wouldnt have to be bothering with it....dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out kiddo....

[the last stand]

wow, this is a ban fest tonight. Not since beeblebrox has there been such a mass cull, lol.

[Psycho4Bud]

wow, this is a ban fest tonight. Not since beeblebrox has there been such a mass cull, lol.



:D ...the "Walking Boss"...:D

One of my friends from politics stated this.........LOL

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[surreys princess]

LMFAO

[timothylearyisdead]

P4B, I lost a friend, possibly more than just one, in a tragic incident today, then some guy starts bashing the situation in this thread calling Americans crazy, so I call him a douchbag and you give ME the infraction? Get off your powertrip and getcha mind right.

[slipknotpsycho]

P4B, I lost a friend, possibly more than just one, in a tragic incident today, then some guy starts bashing the situation in this thread calling Americans crazy, so I call him a douchbag and you give ME the infraction? Get off your powertrip and getcha mind right.

just cuz someone pisses you off, doesn't give you the right to insult them... rules are rules...

i normally think buzz is pretty cool, but you don't think he was really getting under my skin? i still kept calm....

[timothylearyisdead]

Slip, in any other situation I would say true that, but I lost a friend today and what he was saying was totally uncalled for.

[higher4hockey]

"there is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of one small candle."

[Psycho4Bud]

P4B, I lost a friend, possibly more than just one, in a tragic incident today, then some guy starts bashing the situation in this thread calling Americans crazy, so I call him a douchbag and you give ME the infraction? Get off your powertrip and getcha mind right.

Powertrip? What a joke! The rules are here for all, NO favorites period. Your infraction wasn't a ban so it wasn't all that. I feel for your loss but you need to show control here........that's it.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[timothylearyisdead]

done

[slipknotpsycho]

Slip, in any other situation I would say true that, but I lost a friend today and what he was saying was totally uncalled for.

oh i never said i couldn't understand... i'd probably of taken the infraction to call him teh same thing... i understand that...

but you have to understand how a moderate has to look at things... if they let certain things slide, they get countless emails and call-outs on the forums for showing favoritism... awhiel back they were actually pretty understanding over situations like this... but too many childish people screamed and cried they were unfair... so they started doing everything by the book.

[pwn3dy0]

I think you gun grabbers are missing the big picture. The number of people that have been disarmed and massacred by their own governments is exponentially higher than the number of people that have been killed by common criminals armed with guns. The real threat comes from agents of the State, not Jamal mugging you for your wallet. This should be the main focus of any anti-victim-disarmament argument.

That being said, Having a gun on Virginia Tech campus was a crime. Therefore, students couldn't defend themselves. All they could do is call 911 and wait for the cops who stayed outside and hid behind trees instead of trying to find the gunman. :thumbsup: Virginia Tech's ban on guns may draw legal fire - Roanoke.com (http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/xp-21770)

If the students were allowed to be own a firearm the casualities would be reduced greatly.

[Psycho4Bud]

Lets PLEASE leave this thread for showing respect to those who suffered today. Slip just made a thread concerning gun control that you can find in politics.......if you need to, make your "gun control" points in that thread.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[slipknotpsycho]

i just realized i haven't actually said anything about the tragedy, i don't want anyone to think i'm an ass or don't care.

i lost a brother, and when everyoen told me they're sorry and they offer their condolonces, i obviously cared, but it didn't help much.... so i really don't know what to say to those who have suffered... i do care, and i wish it never happened... but caring doesn't actually help the heart ache (atleast for me)

so to those who suffered don't think i don't care and was just trying to make gun control arguments... ignoring the pain was how i dealt with it, so if that's how someone else chooses to, i perfer to ignore the subject as well.... there's nothing worse then when you want to forget the pain, and everyone just keeps reminding you...


it also has alot to do with not understanding tho... i'd love at this point to be able to 'explain' it so it doesn't seem so senseless... but the fact is, it is 100% senseless... there is no explination, and that hurts all that much more...

[reality0]

a bowl pack from me goes out to all those whose lost there lives today... may they rest in peace.. god this makes me feel horrible

[FreeVenice]

When I heard it on the news this morning, I was a little hung over, and all I kept hearing was "Asian Male" and the amount of casulties. . . It's sick, and I hope their familys are going to be ok.

[NextLineIsMine]

Why dont we drop the gun control debate? I just think this thread should be a little more somber

[thcbongman]

I blocked out this news from my head because it's so damn awful.

[skatin_foo15]

RIP Va tech victims. May god be with them on there journey, and let us all pray for the victims families. My hearts with everyone who has lost someone or is worried about someone..

[kingjustin]

R.I.P.:(

[Nightstar]

I may be wrong but did Chris rock have a bullet control skit?

And yeah this event blows right before 4/20 damn..

[slipknotpsycho]

~sigh~

i make a thread specificly to keep this crap away from those in the greiving process, and still, people feel it nessicary to post this crap here.... i guess no one really has respect...

MODS, is it in your ability to move a post, or can you only merge threads?

[halfassedjediknight]

I was in a school shooting. I saw classmates being shot. one of my good friends got shot in the hand but is still an awesome percussionist.

at any rate.. this bowls in memorial.

[NextLineIsMine]

whoa, where did you go Jedi Knight?

[birdgirl73]

MODS, is it in your ability to move a post, or can you only merge threads?
We can move posts, Slip, but P4B dealt with that one above yours in the way he felt was best, considering its angry, insulting commentary, which in that case involved deleting it. Good decision, if you ask me.

This Virginia Tech thing is so heartbreaking. I'm so sorry for those kids and their parents, including the shooter and his family, too. I have a son who's in college just over the state line in North Carolina, and with tensions always high on college campuses at this time of year anyway, it just hits awfully close to home. It could have happened anywhere. I'm so sorry it had to happen at all.

[Psycho4Bud]

We can move posts, Slip, but P4B dealt with that one above yours in the way he felt was best, considering its angry, insulting commentary, which in that case involved deleting it. Good decision, if you ask me.

Seems there's a full moon and I've had to pack silver bullets all day in here regarding this thread and more. This WILL remain soley for wishing the best for the families and honoring the dead!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Skink]

My deepest sympathy goes out to all involved in this senseless act... You are in my prayers!!!

[budsmoker only]

"They say that the good die young"
R.I.P. to all the victims.. my heart goes out to those loved ones who lost someone today...

[halfassedjediknight]

whoa, where did you go Jedi Knight?

in high school? santana high school.

[bucknuts1870]

how was my post angry?? or insulting??

anyways....

RIP victims of this senseless killing

[crudemood]

the kid must have bene really put through alot and really messed around with to be able to do this. think about what was going through his head while doing it, its kind of sad really. he must have been really angry. we should help these people before things get out of hand

[budsmoker only]

so i was reading the article in the newspaper today, and this might have already been mentioned but he chained and locked most of the exits... he had this shit pretty planned out i believe...

[Little Boy]

Its not the guns, its the mental condition and ignorance of mankind.

i agree

[brewdy]

if they were somalis or ethiopians .... who would care ... iraq
is death more signifigant if you're rich and white .... yes

[brewdy]

i shut people up ...

[slipknotpsycho]

if they were somalis or ethiopians .... who would care ... iraq
is death more signifigant if you're rich and white .... yes

no, actually i'm just not stating what i thought about your statements... since arguing with you over this subject would be similar to the whole gun control thing...

[Skink]

if they were somalis or ethiopians .... who would care ... iraq
is death more signifigant if you're rich and white .... yes

That was a pretty ignorant statement...

[make it legal]

So yeah I go to a boarding school and theres a bunch of kids from korea there, Today in class those assholes were all saying that the guy was chinese and a korean wouldn't have done that. Then they started insulting America for it. That just pisses me the fuck off.

[Scottydoo]

Its not the guns, its the mental condition and ignorance of mankind.

qft, guns don't kill people

[GHoSToKeR]

That was a pretty ignorant statement...

I dunno, Skink.. In a way I kind of agree, dude.. I don't want to detract from the absolute fuckin' horror of this event - I'm just as sickened and worried about it as the next guy - but it is true that thousand of innocent people die every single day, and that they could be saved if a few rich, white, middle-to-upper-class Americans or Brits decided to sign this document instead of that one. You hardly ever see much outrage about that, simply because either it doesn't make great news or people just get bored of it.