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Psycho4Bud
04-16-2007, 03:29 PM
PARIS - France's foreign intelligence service learned as early as January 2001 that al-Qaida was preparing a hijacking plot likely to involve a U.S. airplane, former intelligence officials said Monday, confirming a report that also said the CIA received the warning.

Le Monde newspaper said it had obtained 328 pages of classified documents on Osama bin Laden's terror network that were drawn up by the French spy service, the DGSE, between July 2000 and October 2001. The documents included a Jan. 5, 2001, intelligence report warning that al-Qaida was at work on a hijacking plot.

Pierre-Antoine Lorenzi, the former chief of staff for the agency's director at the time, said he remembered the note and that it mentioned only the vague outlines of a hijacking plot â?? nothing that foreshadowed the scale of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

"It wasn't about a specific airline or a specific day, it was not a precise plot," Lorenzi told The Associated Press. "It was a note that said, 'They are preparing a plot to hijack an airplane, and they have cited several companies.'"

The Sept. 11 commission's report on the four hijacked flights has detailed repeated warnings about al-Qaida and its desire to attack airlines in the months before Sept. 11, 2001.
France knew in 2001 al-Qaida had a plot - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070416/ap_on_re_eu/france911)

LOL....this should be good!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

dusto2k3
04-16-2007, 03:31 PM
our govt. klnew the same thing eh

Krogith
04-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Why is this a Conspiracy?:wtf: They knew it's FACT. The C.I.A. Knew.:wtf:

Psycho4Bud
04-16-2007, 06:13 PM
Why is this a Conspiracy?:wtf: They knew it's FACT. The C.I.A. Knew.:wtf:

LOL...since when did you think Al-Quada was behind it? It deals with 9-11 so I posted it in here....no other reason.

Have a good one!:s4:

ATrain
04-16-2007, 06:13 PM
Yeah I thought the US government knew about possible plots like that in the months leading up to September 2001...

DryGuy420
04-16-2007, 06:22 PM
If they knew and did nothing about it,wouldnt this lead you to beleive they had a hand in it?

"Le Monde said the documents showed the French believed bin Laden was still receiving help from family members and senior officials in Saudi Arabia ahead of Sept. 11, 2001, despite attempts to clamp down on the network after al-Qaidaâ??s attacks on U.S. embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998."

Hmmmmmm The same family members that were flown out of the US when the rest of us were wstuck on the ground becouse of no fly status. This doesnt even want to get into it about Bush's and Saudi Arabia ties.

MSN Link:
France knew al-Qaida planned hijack - International Terrorism - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18133920/)

Psycho4Bud
04-16-2007, 06:33 PM
"On any given day, more than 87,000 flights are in the skies in the United States. Only 35 percent, or just over 30,000 of those flights are commercial carriers, like American, United or Southwest. On an average day, air traffic controllers handle 28,537 commercial flights (major and regional airlines), 27,178 general aviation flights (private planes), 24,548 air taxi flights (planes for hire), 5,260 military flights and 2,148 air cargo flights (Federal Express, UPS, etc.). At any given moment, roughly 5,000 planes are in the skies above the United States. In one year, controllers handle an average of 64 million takeoffs and landings.

For every one flight you see listed on an airport monitor, two you don't see show up on air traffic controllers' screens. It would take approximately 7,300 airport terminal monitors to show all the flights controllers handle in a single day and approximately 460 monitors to show the number of flights being handled at any one time."
How many commercial airline flights are there per day in the United... (http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/34532)

MINNEAPOLIS -- Six Muslim men removed from a plane last fall after being accused of suspicious behavior are suing the airline and threatening to sue the passengers who complained -- a move some fear could discourage travelers from speaking up when they see something unusual.
The civil rights lawsuit, filed earlier this month, has so alarmed some lawyers that they are offering to defend the unnamed ''John Doe'' passengers listed as ''possible defendants'' for free. They say it is vital that the flying public be able to report suspicious behavior without fear of being dragged into court.
6 Muslim men taken off flight sue airline :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Nation (http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/321815,CST-NWS-suit01.article)

But we knew!!! So how could we stop it with all the damn bleeding hearts in the way? Well, I'll let ya all hash out the details.......I'm sure the U.S. was wrong in some way or another.

Have a good one!:s4:

Krogith
04-16-2007, 06:42 PM
LOL...since when did you think Al-Quada was behind it? It deals with 9-11 so I posted it in here....no other reason.

Have a good one!:s4:

I belive that Al-Quada are Drug runners that Work for the Same people who set up 9/11. The U.S. is useing Al-Quada as a Term of anyone we wana blow up. When the Real Al-Quada thats Funded by the CIA are safely Drug Running in set locations.

I belive that where there is Huge $$ to be made Crupt people Breed. After time Greedy people seek more ways to Get More. I belive that We are now seeing a Global Grip of Greed.

Not 1 time in history has a person been able to Control So Much So Quickly. With the Global Network people have more power now and can use it more quickly than at any other point in history.

Now what do we learn from history and what power and wealth does? Can you see where all this is leading?

I belive that a group of these Rich and powerful people have come together. Has that not happen in history befor?

Coelho
04-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Does anybody here watched the Michael Moore's movie Fahrenheit? There is stated clearly the 9/11 terrorist attacks were allowed (or even planned) by the big guys of the US, cause it would be the perfect excuse to start meddling with another countries (mainly the oil rich ones) under the excuse of "war on terrorism".
Even if i had not watched the movie, still it makes sense for me. I know they would do anything for oil, and the richness and power it brings... even kill innocent people of their own country.

Markass
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
Just look at bush's dumb ass sit there for minute after minute when he learned the attacks had taken place. That dumb selfish prick knew it was going to happen, and he let it happen. It was a reason to finish his daddy's business in Iraq.

Markass
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Does anybody here watched the Michael Moore's movie Fahrenheit? There is stated clearly the 9/11 terrorist attacks were allowed (or even planned) by the big guys of the US, cause it would be the perfect excuse to start meddling with another countries (mainly the oil rich ones) under the excuse of "war on terrorism".
Even if i had not watched the movie, still it makes sense for me. I know they would do anything for oil, and the richness and power it brings... even kill innocent people of their own country.

Look at tobacco...It kills around 450,000 Americans each year, and it's legal cause they can make TONS of money off of it, lung cancer patients, patients with emphysema..etc. They don't care, they're making their bank.

Just as they don't care how many soldiers are lost in Iraq or were lost in 9/11...because they're making their fucking bank...What a great country.

twentysac
04-16-2007, 07:34 PM
well, okay. lets say the government knew that the attacks were going to happen. according to p4b's post 87,000 flights would be in the air on that particular day. pick 4 and try and get lucky. take it a step further and say that they knew the exat flight number airline and destination of the planes. were they just goind to shoot them down over civilian populations? even one step further and say they planned it. we have all had to deal with someone who couldn't keep their mouth shut about what we did at parties and such, if we can't keep a relitivley small group of people from leaking information how is the government supposed to? if, and if is a very big word to be 2 letters long, they planned it then i think that it would be a very difficult task, probably impossible to keep everyone quite about it. someone would either wanna be the hero or just want their face on the tv. i don't know. people are by nature very self serving, and politicians even more so. if somone on capitol hill thought they could get ahead by screwing evryone else what make you think they would sit idly by and let that oppertunity pass? hell maybe the government did plan it. but if they did, that means we have to give the Bush administration credit for pulling off the biggest farce in history, and that would mean that they were smart and we all know thats not true. right? lol

Krogith
04-16-2007, 08:17 PM
well, okay. lets say the government knew that the attacks were going to happen. according to p4b's post 87,000 flights would be in the air on that particular day. pick 4 and try and get lucky. take it a step further and say that they knew the exat flight number airline and destination of the planes. were they just goind to shoot them down over civilian populations? even one step further and say they planned it. we have all had to deal with someone who couldn't keep their mouth shut about what we did at parties and such, if we can't keep a relitivley small group of people from leaking information how is the government supposed to? if, and if is a very big word to be 2 letters long, they planned it then i think that it would be a very difficult task, probably impossible to keep everyone quite about it. someone would either wanna be the hero or just want their face on the tv. i don't know. people are by nature very self serving, and politicians even more so. if somone on capitol hill thought they could get ahead by screwing evryone else what make you think they would sit idly by and let that oppertunity pass? hell maybe the government did plan it. but if they did, that means we have to give the Bush administration credit for pulling off the biggest farce in history, and that would mean that they were smart and we all know thats not true. right? lol

Bush is a puppet. He was Raised to be a puppet. He did not Plan anything.

And your not thinking about the fact that if a Small group of people Who all had $$ to gain by all this and then they happen to be the Head of C.I.A etc. or Main share holders. They could then thus move things into place and all the lowers would just do things under comand and not know what there doing.

twentysac
04-16-2007, 08:38 PM
well for starters every president we have ever had and every president we will ever have will bea nothing but a puppet. thats just the way the system is said up. and notice that i didn't give credit souly to bush, i said the bush administration. i just find it hard to believe that something of this scale could be kept confidential. our governtment has a long history of not being able to keep secrets. you just can't convince me that someone finally figgure out a way to shut everyone else up. and this may be a stupid question but did you say CIA shareholders? its possible to own shares in the cia like you would own shares in say...microsoft?

Krogith
04-16-2007, 08:53 PM
well for starters every president we have ever had and every president we will ever have will bea nothing but a puppet. thats just the way the system is said up. and notice that i didn't give credit souly to bush, i said the bush administration. i just find it hard to believe that something of this scale could be kept confidential. our governtment has a long history of not being able to keep secrets. you just can't convince me that someone finally figgure out a way to shut everyone else up. and this may be a stupid question but did you say CIA shareholders? its possible to own shares in the cia like you would own shares in say...microsoft?

No people in the C.I.A. and the share holders of companys the C.I.A. works with.

The way to shut everyone up is make it so that all involved have alot to Gain.

It would just take the top few to know and the rest would not know the whole picture.