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twentysac
04-16-2007, 09:42 AM
i played around in this forum a couple years ago, under a differnt name. couldn't remember the name or password and have since switched net service providers so i couldn't get back on my old name. so i told you that to tell you this. i quit posting and even reading this forum because i felt like some people were given more wiggle room with their comments than others as far as what is acceptable to post and what is not. after i left i felt like i should have made a few suggestions. so here are my suggestions. please keep in mind i completly understand that this site belongs to someone and is subject to to the rules and decisions made by said person and their team. that being said this is a forum for suggestions so i figgure i would drop a few.

as far as the list of rules goes its pretty vague. the way it is written lends itself to alot of differnt interpretations. where one mod may view something as acceptable another may swoop in and say not so fast. and the person that made the post may have a completly differnt view on the post. basically this forum has a short list of rules that is intended to cover a broad spectrum of "ideas." maybe a few more rules would be helpful, or atleast a better explanation of the rules already in place

mods are gods. what i mean by this is, in browsing the differnt threads and such there are many examples of mods breaking the same rules that we are expected to abide by. im a believer in what is good for the goose is good for the gather. i think that if anything mods should be held to a higher standard and more strict rules. i am more than willing to bring examples to back this up if asked, i just didn't do it right now because it would take up space in the post and its after 5 in the am

the infraction system. if a mod is going to take the time to give someone an infraction they should take the time to carefully and fully explain why this infraction was given. this goes back to the rules thing. if someone posting on this site has a differnt idea of what the rule means then how can they be given an infraction when they really thought they were following the rules. i know ignorance dosen't mean the same as innosence, however when someone has a differnt view on what something means than you that dosen't make them iggnorant, it simply makes them differnt.

you know the more i write in this post the more i get the feeling it will either be deletd locked or just flat ignored. basically what i am saying is that because of the lifestyle that im assumig everyone that post here leads we open ourselves up to all kinds of bullshit that a non-smoker simply dosen't have to deal with and can't understand. why should we have to deal with the same kinds of things in an open forum where we should be able to express an honest opinion on anything and everything our little high minds can think of. i understand that bandwith is probably an issue an everything that goes threw a stoners head would take up alot of space (and for that matter would probably freak any non-smokers out that happend upon this site.) this said i know that we can't just post stupid stuff. but for example, when a user make a thread saying that they think they got some laced shit and has a question about what they think it is laced with thats not the same as saying i went out and did _________ this weekend (insert your choice of other substances in the blank) and it is in my eyes (which probably dosen't cout for much) a very legitiment thread. and yes i used this example because i got an infraction for replying to a similar thread. to say that something isn't allowed because the owner of the site dosen't want it here is the equivilent of your parents telling you "because i said so". its a pretty good tactic when trying to get a 5 year old off your back but i was under the impression that the majority of the people posting around here were mature adults. again just my opinion here but if someone takes the time to ask a legitiment question the same level of maturity should be shown when giving the answer. i meant to stop typing this along time ago but my damn fingers wouldn't quit, so i'll stop here. i have alot more ideas i just know i don't often read long ass post all the way through so if you guys are intrested in what i have to say just lemme know and i will gladly give you more of my opinions. im sure i pissed of more then a couple people now that i go back and read what i have written over but the people that i piss off by writing this are probably going to be the people that need to read it the most. it wasn't my intention to do so but its almost impossible to avoid pissing someone off when you give the whloe world you honest opinion.

now that i have said that i will say this: i like the site. i like the people that post on this site. hell for the most part i like the mods. i just think you can always make a good thing better. and now that i have run my mouth some more ill quit for a while. lol


happy toking:jointsmile:

FreeVenice
04-16-2007, 09:55 AM
It's kinda how it goes, they were picked because they were trusted. They were chosen for their better judgment. I just don't understand how a bunch of pot heads are expected to follow guide lines, I mean thinking out the box is what we were born to do. . .

GHoSToKeR
04-16-2007, 10:01 AM
"please keep in mind i completly understand that this site belongs to someone and is subject to to the rules and decisions made by said person and their team"

^^^ Basically, that's how it goes. The mods and the admins keep in communication with the rest of us, and to be honest the current mods are good at listening to suggestions and if appropriate passing them on up the chain. But not every suggestion can be taken on board, simply because this forum would be way too complicated and the rules would be confusing and contradictory, or it just isn't possible or even necessary. It's not totally a case of "because I said so" because if you ask nicely, the mods or the admins are happy to discuss anything with us... It's more a case of not being able to please everybody all at once.

In the case of how much 'power' the mods have and the specifics of the rules, that is totally up to the owner of this site. After all, he owns it. He has to be able to decide some things for himself, right?

FreeVenice
04-16-2007, 10:04 AM
Yeah but kinda like you said, you can't see everything at once. . .

napolitana869
04-16-2007, 12:56 PM
You said you were here a few years ago, and you have to admit that the site has improved since then. The mods do a good job of trying to be fair, but their human. If you take the time to email them about an issue I think they're normally pretty good about straightening things out.

Skink
04-16-2007, 01:11 PM
That was just to long to read,,,Us stoners have better things to do...

Psycho4Bud
04-16-2007, 02:12 PM
the infraction system. if a mod is going to take the time to give someone an infraction they should take the time to carefully and fully explain why this infraction was given. this goes back to the rules thing. if someone posting on this site has a differnt idea of what the rule means then how can they be given an infraction when they really thought they were following the rules. i know ignorance dosen't mean the same as innosence, however when someone has a differnt view on what something means than you that dosen't make them iggnorant, it simply makes them differnt.

I notice you were the lucky winner of two infractions within a very short period out of which one came from me. I agree with your position in that thread on substance but the delivery was the problem as you should be able to well understand since I pointed it out in that thread. We had a HUGE blow out piss fest in that forum a while back and since then that type of post isn't tolorated by ANY member.

IF you/ or others have a problem with an infraction/ban it's usually best to send an e-mail to the mod in question for further discussion.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

surreys princess
04-16-2007, 03:29 PM
im with p4b on this...

all of us mods have emails for you to contact us, and respond very well to the members needs and concerns if you approcah us...maybe you should have tried that....

on another note...i get so tired of hearing that we are god like..there is nothing godlike about this volunteer position we have taken on in our own free time....i myself have infractioned and banned good friends of mine on here, as well as people i dont know..the rules are the rules....and frankly, most of them are common sense..ie, this is a cannabis site, dont talk about other drugs...seems simple to me....

and lastly....this site has rules for a reason..there is a reason this site is so good and hasnt been shut down or had any problems, and the mods, owners, and rules are a big part of that...i am sorry if you dont like how things are done here all the time, but sometimes things are done for reasons you arent apprised of...

thanks for your thoughts and ideas and for communicating respectfully....

Psycho4Bud
04-16-2007, 03:42 PM
on another note...i get so tired of hearing that we are god like..there is nothing godlike about this volunteer position we have taken on in our own free time

Everybody to their own opinion I guess.........LMAO!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

dusto2k3
04-16-2007, 03:45 PM
yeah, dude, i get infractions, but only when they are appropriate....p4b LoL my bad intoxicated

twentysac
04-16-2007, 08:26 PM
aight aight. i wrote that and i was really tired. lol
i really wasn't complaining about the infractions. to be honest i don't really care that i got them, not that i don't care about the rules, its just that having someone on the other side of a computer tell me im a bad boy dosen't hurt my feelings. and yes i will admit that this site has imporved. and i agree the mods are not God like, i just think they get away with more in the forums then should be allowed. the fact that one of them not only didn't take the time to read a suggestion by a member, but they took the time to tell me that they had no intrest in reading it is exatly what im talking about. i don't care if you don't read it but when you make a post saying that it puts you in a bad light in my opinion. i say again that we are mature people here and we should treat each other like that. in other words if you don't care enough to make an effort at making this place better then why are you even a mod. and finallyt a note to psycho4bud. i don't think i saw your post in that thread explaining your position on it, however i understand where you are coming from. and yes i did recieve an infraction from you. again the infraction dosen't make me mad, sad, or whatever but i didn't like the way you called me out in the thread. the way it was written sounded like a parent chastising their child and i am far from a child. i have no problem answering to higher athority but i do have a problem with being spoken down to. all i am saying is if you or any other mod feels the need to say something to a member there are better ways of doing it than in the forums. you have my e-mail and a way to pm me. i would very much appreciate it in the future if any mod has a problem with anything i say they contact me privatly about this (unless its about this then feel free to blast me in this thread. lol) im not trying to make enemys, and im not trying to cause problems. i am a very out spoken individual and that will never change. in my opinion not being willing to share your thoughts does more damage then saying "your a fuckin idiot, that could never happen." as stoners we are cencored by the law books that allow non-smokers to speak freely and be open about their lives. we don't need cencorship where we come to congrugate as a family of stoners. and the reason i didn't e-mail any of ya'll mods is because i don't have any specific problems to discuss with any of you. i just have a few random thoughts on improving relations between everyone.

Psycho4Bud
04-16-2007, 09:28 PM
or whatever but i didn't like the way you called me out in the thread. the way it was written sounded like a parent chastising their child and i am far from a child. i have no problem answering to higher athority but i do have a problem with being spoken down to.

Sorry if that's the way you took it but that wasn't the case at all. That statement wasn't only for you but for all that the flame fest in politics is done. Usually posts like yours would have been deleted and the explanation would have stayed in the infraction but untill everyone understands that this is the way it is now ALL of this will remain in the open for all to see so they will realize where the lines are.

But really, that was FAR from being spoken down to........
"You just received a gift........DO NOT let this type of crap happen again!"

I suppose I could have put something like:
"Due to technical difficuties in your post an infraction has been issued"
BUT that really isn't my style or stressing the point I was trying to make. I'm not really the type to have sunshine shooting out my backside anyways.......sorry!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

twentysac
04-17-2007, 02:33 AM
yeah man im kind of tired of the smart ass shit to. you may not have sunshine out your ass but alot of BS comes out your mouth.

i suppose i should have just left this alone but thats just not my style...i mean who are we kidding, im not really the type kiss anyones ass anyway.

Psycho4Bud
04-17-2007, 03:18 AM
yeah man im kind of tired of the smart ass shit to. you may not have sunshine out your ass but alot of BS comes out your mouth.

"Due to technical difficuties in your post an infraction has been issued"

Have a nice vacation!:jointsmile: