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conch420
04-12-2007, 02:41 PM
am i tho only one here that thinks people should start protesting again, likke hardcore sixties style, i never see to much of anything in the news about protesters. other than in other countries, and you would, think more people would seeing how many peole bitch about they way shit is run in the world. im not trying to get flamed , so f-off flamers, anyone out there here me???

JohnGalt
04-12-2007, 02:52 PM
You must not have been in DC (January '07). While you're right, it's not like the sixties, there were hundreds of thousands of people there. I managed to get about 12 feet up in a tree to get a better look, and the crowd stretched as far as I could see.

In Crawford, Texas (August '05), there were hundreds, possibly thousands (there was never a way to get a good look at the entire crowd) all packed on this little 12 foot wide country road that became known as Camp Casey. People spent the night in ditches to show their support and protest.

To Billionfold: Yes, corporations run more than the government in a lot of cases, (although the government is now backed by corporation anyway) but one must never underestimate the power of protest, the power of a dedicated people.

A prime example would be what is taking place in Iraq. Those insurgents are standing up against people that are infinitly stronger and more intelligent than they will ever be. And while their losses have been grievous, they're _winning_ (In no way am I advocating violent protest. The point of this is to simply show that protesting can work, or be effective, even against all odds)

Nation_1ne
04-12-2007, 02:56 PM
Very true Billion, for example here in the UK Tesco is a big hungry animal at the moment. The Government are concerned over Tesco's wealth and size, but can't do too much about it. Quite scary really when your Government fears something is getting to big for it's own boots yet there is nothing they can do. To be honest I thought they would have done Tesco's on the grounds of unfair competition, and too much of a high domination within the market.

MyMARYJANE
04-12-2007, 03:09 PM
i agree with you! i'd so be down to have a protest =)

VaporDaddy
04-12-2007, 04:03 PM
REVOLUTION! I'm in!:thumbsup:

conch420
04-12-2007, 05:01 PM
The reason I'm not an activist is because the world isn't like it was in the sixties. The corporations run shit now. The government only has so much power. I watched this documentary about corporations that totally blew my mind.


that whay we need to start man! fight the power!lol
:hippy:

BizzleLuvin
04-12-2007, 05:40 PM
conch, you have run into the right person. I'm a hardcore activist, let me brag a little here: i go to a different club meeting four days a week-Students for a Democratic Society,Youth for Socialist Action, Environmental Students Association and The Green Party on Campus.
every sunday I stand on the corner of campus with about 5-10 other students and locals with the Eastern Shore Peace Alliance protesting for peace. every damn sunday. rain or shine for about an hour and a half.
in march i went to D.C. to protest against free trade to support FAIR trade.
i have been to about three pro-choice and NOW marches in DC and NYC. i once got arrested at once.
i did a class walk out for Darfur for Amnesty International.
i dumpster dive every thursday night to reclaim lost treasures and to fight capitalism.
i go to city council meetings.
i also fasted for five days for peace in 10th grade when the war in iraq had just begun. that was tough.
I lobby my representatives, write them letter and do just about anythign to assert the greater good.
i volunteer at a free medical/dental clinic in annapolis translating for spanish speaking patients. i love this the most.
my theory is: somebody has to do it. giving your spair change to that homeless dude or buying a peace sign bumber sticker IS NOT ENOUGH. the greatest tragedy is those who stand idly by. bitches please, i see so much apathy these days, i am overwhelmingly driven to make a difference. its my life. if you are complaining about the war or how much trash people throw out, get off your ass and do something about it. agreeing or disagreeing is one thing. acting out is another. and thats what democracy (supposedly the US is a democracy but really its a fascist merchantile autocracy in my opinion) is about: its about YOU and what YOU want to see changce. and if youre not seeing that change, so something about it. so peel off your bumper stickers and write a letter instead.
thanks for letting me brag.

guys, this CAN BE THE SIXTIES! the problem is that nowadays we are so busy with ourselves that we hardly have time for others and we have a severe case of apathy. if you can move enough people, you can protest. when I went to my first pro-choice march in DC, i was so inspired by how many people there were and the air of change and unity and power i felt. you CAN make a difference. of you think that you can't you have some real problems. you just need to get up and work hard at it. its not as easy as buying that bumper sticker you know. if you are truely driven, you can do anything. so quit bitching and start doing. seriously guys

Pipe Dreams
04-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Real Americans dont protest.

higher4hockey
04-12-2007, 05:56 PM
i protested the NHL lock-out.

JohnGalt
04-12-2007, 06:00 PM
Real Americans dont protest.

Quite the opposite. Real Americans stand up for what they believe in and exercise their civil liberties, as well as criticizomg the government and dissent.

*note: Sorry if you were being sarcastic, I couldn't tell

GotWake88
04-12-2007, 07:43 PM
Real Americans dont protest.

How, then, did the Revolution come about?

I'm all for protest; for certain issues. I don't like it when people seem to protest for the sake of being a protester, though.

higher4hockey
04-12-2007, 07:46 PM
I'm also protesting HR 1022 assualt weapos ban.


http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/409898348

The Figment
04-12-2007, 09:28 PM
conch, you have run into the right person. I'm a hardcore activist, let me brag a little here: i go to a different club meeting four days a week-Students for a Democratic Society,Youth for Socialist Action, Environmental Students Association and The Green Party on Campus.
every sunday I stand on the corner of campus with about 5-10 other students and locals with the Eastern Shore Peace Alliance protesting for peace. every damn sunday. rain or shine for about an hour and a half.
in march i went to D.C. to protest against free trade to support FAIR trade.
i have been to about three pro-choice and NOW marches in DC and NYC. i once got arrested at once.

i did a class walk out for Darfur for Amnesty International.

i dumpster dive every thursday night to reclaim lost treasures and to fight capitalism.
i go to city council meetings.
i also fasted for five days for peace in 10th grade when the war in iraq had just begun. that was tough.
I lobby my representatives, write them letter and do just about anythign to assert the greater good.
i volunteer at a free medical/dental clinic in annapolis translating for spanish speaking patients. i love this the most.
my theory is: somebody has to do it. giving your spair change to that homeless dude or buying a peace sign bumber sticker IS NOT ENOUGH. the greatest tragedy is those who stand idly by. bitches please, i see so much apathy these days, i am overwhelmingly driven to make a difference. its my life. if you are complaining about the war or how much trash people throw out, get off your ass and do something about it. agreeing or disagreeing is one thing. acting out is another. and thats what democracy (supposedly the US is a democracy but really its a fascist merchantile autocracy in my opinion) is about: its about YOU and what YOU want to see changce. and if youre not seeing that change, so something about it. so peel off your bumper stickers and write a letter instead.
thanks for letting me brag.

guys, this CAN BE THE SIXTIES! the problem is that nowadays we are so busy with ourselves that we hardly have time for others and we have a severe case of apathy. if you can move enough people, you can protest. when I went to my first pro-choice march in DC, i was so inspired by how many people there were and the air of change and unity and power i felt. you CAN make a difference. of you think that you can't you have some real problems. you just need to get up and work hard at it. its not as easy as buying that bumper sticker you know. if you are truely driven, you can do anything. so quit bitching and start doing. seriously guys

I did The DNC2RNC march in July/August 04, 258 miles on foot from Boston to New York.

Spent the week of the RNC in N.Y. doing all I could to make the Conventioneers lives for that week a living hell,bugged them while they ate,slept,partied,had coffee. The Sixtys Hippies wish that they had the Computer Techonalgy we do now!!!! Most Fun!!

Took Part in the largest Critical Mass Ride in History in N.Y. during the RNC,6000 Bicycle Riders Making NYC Drivers and Commuters tear their hair out...See The Vid Called "Still We Ride" By Times Up NYC

Sat On the Lincon Memorial During "The Million Worker March in Nov 04.

Do Food Not Bombs Every Sat.

Am a member of more than a few "Liberal" websites.

And an already making plans with my afinity group for '08!!!!!!

Starhawk is a Goddess! (Look up non violent protest techniches (sp) on the net.

Do "Street Med"

Know how to stop and deal with Tasers,Tear Gas,Riot Cops,Unarresting People,General Confusion.

It Takes 6 BIG Cops to Lift this 155 Lb Hippie Off the Ground,NON VIOLENTY!!!!

napolitana869
04-12-2007, 09:34 PM
I used to go to a lot of protests. Then I was beaten at the IMF/WB protests in '03. I was hurt pretty bad and I had to have my ankle reconstructed (for the second time). I've only been to one march since. I really miss it too. Now I'm in Baltimore and its harder to get to DC. School is also an issue. All the big protests seem to be the weekend before I have some big test on monday.

conch420
04-12-2007, 09:44 PM
thats sweet its good to hear that there are people that still do this, i haven found any groups or anything around here , im in canada so i guess people dont proteset against much, or its just not well known

The Figment
04-12-2007, 09:45 PM
Check this out....RANT Collective : Index (http://www.rantcollective.net./)

BizzleLuvin
04-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Took Part in the largest Critical Mass Ride in History in N.Y. during the RNC,6000 Bicycle Riders Making NYC Drivers and Commuters tear their hair out...See The Vid Called "Still We Ride" By Times Up NYC

!

i took pictures for the critical mass on campus. i don't own a bike yet so I don't ride. i made spanish flyers for them. got a few riders to join ESA meetings.

Reefer Rogue
04-12-2007, 10:41 PM
I am all for PEACEFUL protest.

twentysac
04-12-2007, 10:46 PM
holy shit. wtf are you damn hippies protesting now? lol j/k
i love the idea that we can and will protest. i don't agree with every protest that happens but the fact that we can is great. i am completley pro-life but im glad that people who are pro-choice cen have their opinions heard to. the world would be dull and boring if everyone agreed on evry issue. i say fuck it. lets meet on main street at high noon and shoot it out. lol

lagstronaut
04-12-2007, 10:55 PM
Protesting changes nothing, ever. Find a way to fight back against your enemies by striking something essential to them. Whining does about as much good for 1 spoiled kid as it does for a crowd of a million. Cry all you want, you think you're getting a cookie? Yeah fucking right.


the world would be dull and boring if everyone agreed on evry issue

you think the world ISN'T completely headed in a controlled and unanimous direction? every follows the system in place so they can waste their life on products they don't need and wouldn't think they needed if marketing wasn't embedded everywhere you look, especially the places you'd think marketing to not be (and that's when your guards are down, subjecting yourself to the friendly voice trying to help you...help you dwiddle away your life to help someone else's profit margin)

The Figment
04-15-2007, 05:49 AM
Protesting changes nothing, ever. Find a way to fight back against your enemies by striking something essential to them. Whining does about as much good for 1 spoiled kid as it does for a crowd of a million. Cry all you want, you think you're getting a cookie? Yeah fucking right.



you think the world ISN'T completely headed in a controlled and unanimous direction? every follows the system in place so they can waste their life on products they don't need and wouldn't think they needed if marketing wasn't embedded everywhere you look, especially the places you'd think marketing to not be (and that's when your guards are down, subjecting yourself to the friendly voice trying to help you...help you dwiddle away your life to help someone else's profit margin)

Simple answer...Tell that to Nelson Mendala or Gahndi