3 cotyledon leaves???

[robjohnson]

Is it normal for some blueberry or romulan seeds to have 3 cotyledon leaves?? Also, instead of 2 normal leaves forming after the cotyledon leaves, theres 3!!! ill post a pic later, i have to fix my camera.

[horror business]

It's not normal for any seed to do that, it's rare. Some chemicals can be applied to seeds to make them do this, but mostly it happens on it's own, on rare occasions. There's nothing wrong with it though, it will be bigger and bushier and yield more. I want to see pics!

[harris7]

it's a common mutation, keep it around. it'll look cool but i dont think it will yield more. Mutations are rarely beneficial

i believe it's called tri-lateral branching

look that up

[Earthy Dank]

That plant is a polyploid. Its a complicated concept but it basically means that instead of being a diploid(2 sets of Chromosomes) your plants has an extra set which makes it a triploid. Theoretically this will mean that the plant will grow and yeild a third more than a diploid. I had a triploid my second season and it grow to be 7 foot tall by may (meaning it had almost 6months untill harvest). It would have been over 20 foot tall but it was found by my dad and ripped out of the ground...... I didn't talk to him for over a month after that... I also had a clone (my first successful clone) of it which he killed.
You can induce polyploidyism by spraying it with a chemical found in the bulbs of the autumn crocus but the chemical is extremely toxic so i wouldn't spray anything with it.

[Scarlet Sky]

That plant is a polyploid. Its a complicated concept but it basically means that instead of being a diploid(2 sets of Chromosomes) your plants has an extra set which makes it a triploid. Theoretically this will mean that the plant will grow and yeild a third more than a diploid. I had a triploid my second season and it grow to be 7 foot tall by may (meaning it had almost 6months untill harvest). It would have been over 20 foot tall but it was found by my dad and ripped out of the ground...... I didn't talk to him for over a month after that... I also had a clone (my first successful clone) of it which he killed.
You can induce polyploidyism by spraying it with a chemical found in the bulbs of the autumn crocus but the chemical is extremely toxic so i wouldn't spray anything with it.

wrong, you have the deffinition right, but you have the wrong mutation.

what you have is called an alternating whorled phytolaxy.

here's pix of a black dom phytolaxy i had last time around. attempting to reveg her outdoors...

[robjohnson]

ok cool, so its kinda like a four leaf clover....i know what to name it...lets hope its a girl! but thanks for the info guys, ill look all that up...and ill post a picture tomorrow.

[Earthy Dank]

We are talking about two different mutations, and it could be either one.

Polyploids (http://www.dutch-ganja.com/polyploids.html)

[Scarlet Sky]

i don't think so sweetie. read this, see what stinky has to say...

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/93686-everyone-loves-freak-mutant-thread.html

there is a big time discussion on the differences between a plant with an extra set of chromisomes, which may or may (and usually doesn't) manifest itself physically, and a phytolaxy.

hope this helps clear it up.

[Abattoir Dream]

wrong, you have the deffinition right, but you have the wrong mutation.

what you have is called an alternating whorled phytolaxy.



lol you do love sayin that dont you? when i said its a triploid/polyploid wateva, u sed that too...

like it matters? it has three leaves...lol the end...

[Scarlet Sky]

it does matter.

you don't see me posting pix of a tomato plant and saying that its a plant, it will bud, do you?

there are reasons these things have different terms, and ignorance make us as a populace look unitelligent, and not respectable. if we want to stand our ground on legalization issues, we need to have our shit together.

and know what we're talking about...

[harris7]

i'll check in my breeding book, it goes over all common mutations, when i get home.

[robjohnson]

yeah...i think polyploid only has to do with the number of chromosomes, not leaves. A triploid has 3 chromosomes, diploid has 2. Polyploidy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyploidy) The thing is, your spelling phyllotaxy wrong...and i dont even know if thats the real explaination, it doesnt say anything about EXTRA leaves, it just says that the leaf PATTERN is different.... Phyllotaxis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllotaxy)

[Scarlet Sky]

you are right, misspelled, pronounced, the whole nine.

reps for you rob

[harris7]

yes polyploid means many chromosomes.

Cannabis is Diploid (two), a common mutation is to be triploid. to have 3 of one chromsosome.

This is not what is occuring.

As i said b4 this is called Trilateral branching or.......

whorled phylotaxy

this condition Does not mean the plant will have 150% the harvest as someone said

[Earthy Dank]

Lets not argue about it... it really doesn't even matter... either it will yeild 150% or it won't.. I'm optimisitic

[Abattoir Dream]

there are reasons these things have different terms, and ignorance make us as a populace look unitelligent, and not respectable. if we want to stand our ground on legalization issues, we need to have our shit together.


lol yeh, but we already know we are smart... so what does it matter? as long as most ppl get what we mean... which they do, when you say triploid.. not so much with 'alternating whorled phytolaxy'

its not like people are gonna see this page and all of a sudden determine that all stoners are stupid just because they didnt call a three-leafed ganja plant an 'alternating whorled phytolaxy' or w/e...

that would just be silly...

[harris7]

it dosn't matter if people "get" what you mean if you say triploid

it is wrong. your promoting peopel calling things the wrong name

i find that odd

[stinkyattic]

yeah...i think polyploid only has to do with the number of chromosomes, not leaves. A triploid has 3 chromosomes, diploid has 2. ]

Exactly. You can not necessarily SEE that a plant is polyploid.

Is polyploidy sometimes associated with fucked up looking leaf arrangements? Yes... single bladed or scrunched leaves can show as a result of the polyploid condition.

But seriously it IS important to call things by the correct names. Othewise why bother naming them at all? If we can't call them by their names, we should agree to call them 'those plants with 3 cotyledons' and have done with it.

Sheesh this is the DUMBEST thing to argue about. I feel stupider just for joining this discussion.

Abbatoir Dream, you're getting there, but your youth still puts its foot in its mouth sometimes.

[toquer]

okay so i'm looking for preflowers and i run into this...

Marijuana Growing - toquer's Album: Tri-lateral Branching (http://www.rollitup.org/members/toquer-196140/albums/tri-lateral-branching-9590/)

it's another breeders experiment that i was handed...

i'm hoping it turns out female!!

anybody every grow one?

[frostedwonder]

Hey nice discussion and all including the english class. I currently have going one of those plants and its a Purple Wreck. It is at the stage its either going to show me its sex or its chop time. I am not sure if those types show faster or slower sex but it seems like it. I know that condition and strain affect it but damn its taking forever! In my sig there is my link to current strange mutant "He who cannot be named" "he who walks behind the... or never mind.:stoned: