is this cool or am i a dick

[wutang123456]

I used to sell a lot of drugs years ago, and it got me into trouble. I still ocasionally enjoy a little toke. I wouldn't consider my self a pothead, i'm probably a less than once a week toker, but because i've done it alot over the years, i sort of know whats up and on my campus i've sort of became the go to guy for weed. I say taht, but usually i don't get more than 2 or 3 calls a night. Unfortunately, i seem to be 'reliable' and have 'good weed' so these cats are always calling me.

basically, heres my thing, first off, i got in a bunch of trouble before, and i'm completely free of it now, but i'm not about to go back there. I hate selling because of this.

seccondly, although these people piss me off, they are still my freinds, and i short their bags and over charge. Am i a dick for doing this?

point to this post: should i keep doing what i am doing, and am i making a dick move doing so?

[kingjustin]

Yeah, that's a pretty dick thing to do. Note that I'm not calling you a dick, but I think that I'd have to give a hearty ass beating to any of my "friends" who overcharged/shorted me. I'd say if your head isn't in the right place, let people know that you're not holdin any more.

[slipknotpsycho]

yeah you're a dick... you can't just tax sacks like that just because you're the one they go through....

if you wanna do it... tell 'em straight up.. ok i'm a get you a damn decent hook up, but i expect you to atleast smoke with me or something..

but just taking shit from someone's sack is a dick move..

[wutang123456]

yeah, thats how i feel, but i shorted this kid, not bad, but basically i smoked a small bowl out of a g he wanted, and i did it so he would call me back, because telling him i don't like selling didn't work, and 2 days later (today) he calls me up and was like, yo, i can't ever get shit as good as you get

i don't know, i guess he was happy with it

[slipknotpsycho]

if you're so sure of that, then tell him before he hands you money you are gonna take some from it... don't just take it.

[kingjustin]

Tell him you're a cop. That should get him away.

I told people that I had got into trouble and I had some shady people watchin me. Worked like a charm.

[thcbongman]

If you don't want to sell, tell these people to fuck off. If you are shorting them, they can't be all that good friends anyway........you'd never do that to your true friends.

[slipknotpsycho]

If you don't want to sell, tell these people to fuck off. If you are shorting them, they can't be all that good friends anyway........you'd never do that to your true friends.

i wouldn't be so quick to say that, some people would... some people don't value friendship or family and will fuck over anyone as long as they profit.. (not saying you're that person... )

[JunkYard]

hell, people tax for all kinds of reasons, man. It's kinda dick to do it, but if you're the go to guy then what the fuck? Better to get taxed than to get nothing. ;)

I kinda doubt these cats buying from you are that close anyway. Don't tax your true buds, tho. Friends come in handy from time to time.

[thcbongman]

If they don't value friendship, they can't be true friends, now can they :)

They merely be acquaintances and associates. I couldn't understand how anyone could live like that, with a businessman's mentality.

[CanaDanKs Inc.]

How is that cool? ;)

I'd say either do it right or don't do it at all. Why don't you let your best man get in contact with your connection and take it over. Make him buy you a nice dinner or some shit for the troubles. :thumbsup:

[originalblu]

come on man,, no one likes gettin ripped off

[JunkYard]

I wouldn't recomend it, but come on people...supply and demand! It's the way of the world.

don't tax your friends, tho!!!

[imadhdpositive]

Man, do that to people you hate, not people you like. If these are your friends, you either
a. wanna give them a decent deal because u know ur friends will keep it hush hush
b. tell ur friends that ur not gunna sell anymore

i hope this is what your question was about...

[Skink]

Just charge a 5% finders fee,,,peeps will still come knowing that... just taking can make you look like a dick if your caught...

[slipknotpsycho]

that's wha ti was saying i guess but not in the right words? i understand finder's fees... and if i'm warned ahead of time, i usually have no problem.... i even take it a step ahead and if the dealer is far away and i hav eno way to them but they have a ride, offering gas money....

but don't just take it... give them the option of going through you (with finder's fee) or fidning someone else...

[Skink]

that's wha ti was saying i guess but not in the right words? i understand finder's fees... and if i'm warned ahead of time, i usually have no problem.... i even take it a step ahead and if the dealer is far away and i hav eno way to them but they have a ride, offering gas money....

but don't just take it... give them the option of going through you (with finder's fee) or fidning someone else...

No,,,you said it right,,,I am just agreeing...

[slipknotpsycho]

No,,,you said it right,,,I am just agreeing...

err lol i knwo you were agreeing... i just thought the way you put it, sounded more like my throught process, then the way i did....

i have of course been tipping down some 40's....

[mamma puffpuff420]

how would u like some 1 2 do that 2 u...hummmmm??
ya ur a dick if you cheat people
stoner's r supposed 2 b there 4 each other
that's a stoner's code
shame on u!!!!

[JunkYard]

if it was his weed I'd say the same, but he's the one taking the risk, and using his time, and gas, etc. I agree with slipknott and skink. Tax ain't always a bad thing...especially if he's upfront about it.

[napolitana869]

Wait I thought he was doing it because he didn't want the people to call him anymore because he was trying to stay out of trouble. Did I read it wrong?

If I did read it right, maybe he's too stupid to realize you pinched his bag. I do think its something that you shouldn't do. Just tell him flat out your reasoning for not wanted to sell and if he cant accept that than hes not a good friend and you can tell him to fuck off for not respecting the fact that you're trying to get your life on the right track.

[xxxhazexxx]

DICK:(

[Diary of a Madman]

charging whatever you want is capitalism

giving someone a sack and saying its 3.5 Gs when its 2.5 is a lie

If you skimped me I would call you on it and see how your customer service was, at which point we would go from there.

Pinching out of a bag is only appropriate in desperate times (highschool, you are an old crack head) when YOU have to go through a shit ton of trouble for someone thats most likely not your best friend, so you can smoke it, but you dont even smoke what you pinch.

[Oneironaut]

If you don't like selling, then don't sell. Your real friends will understand and they'll stick by you no matter what, and if anybody likes you just for your weed, you can get rid of those parasites.

[bluntblaze]

you shouldn't short their bags, you can charge whatever you want .... its their choice to take it or not but as long as your giving them the amount they think their buying.


:hippy:

[smoke it]

yup, youre a dick, but you can change.

[Diary of a Madman]

He is asking, am I a dick if I steal from my friends..........

No man. Its cool. Do any of them have little sisters?

[Diary of a Madman]

I hope that's sarcasm... :wtf:

yeah, kinda getting at, why dont you fuck your friends relatives while your at it.........

WE THE JURY FIND YOU GUILTY OF SKIMPING AND PRICE GOUGING, AS CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT.

THE COURT SENTENCES YOU TO BEING LABLED AS A FUCKING DICK-HEAD FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. YOU ARE TO SERVE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN A FEDERAL "POUND ME UP THE ASS" PENETENTURY. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOUL.

[Skrappie]

I used to hang out with this one kid that always had the hookup. Well one day a group of us gets pretty trashed and he talks about how much he hates and and blah blah blah. A few days after that, i found out he was nicking and diming everything i brought from him, his reasoning was: You don't even act like my real friend, and plus i find the weed.
Well the reason i went through this guy is because i saw him as a friend, we hung out outside of smoking, and i thought he was an alright guy. Well i was really pissed about the whole situation and to end it without chest banging, i settled it very immaturely.

If you don't like what you are doing, then don't do it, but dicking people because you are allowing them to use you as a service, and provide no noticeable objections, is well a dick move.

I'd cut it out if i were you, there are some pretty vengeful people out there.:)

[xcrispi]

What happens when 1 of these ppl. gets tired of getting fukd around / screwd and decides to play you like a bitch for a change and drops a dime on you ? Your right back in trouble huh . Be real careful about who your bending over man . Karmas a bitch .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[d0ob]

lol your asking if your a dick for doing that? if u cant figure out that your a dickhead for doing that, you are a dickhead

[Ganj]

I used to sell a lot of drugs years ago, and it got me into trouble. I still ocasionally enjoy a little toke. I wouldn't consider my self a pothead, i'm probably a less than once a week toker, but because i've done it alot over the years, i sort of know whats up and on my campus i've sort of became the go to guy for weed. I say taht, but usually i don't get more than 2 or 3 calls a night. Unfortunately, i seem to be 'reliable' and have 'good weed' so these cats are always calling me.

basically, heres my thing, first off, i got in a bunch of trouble before, and i'm completely free of it now, but i'm not about to go back there. I hate selling because of this.

seccondly, although these people piss me off, they are still my freinds, and i short their bags and over charge. Am i a dick for doing this?

point to this post: should i keep doing what i am doing, and am i making a dick move doing so?

You've become a prisoner of your own device...or something like that. Ask yourself this: Am I proud skimping my friends of their hard-earned money?

[Metaphor]

i didnt read the whole thread but this is what i gotta say.

The way i see it people like us risk out asses on a daily basis, there are no laws or anything saying we have to pack fat bags. We have to walk around holding that shit down all the time. Its your buisness you do whatever the fuck you want, Just like the big buisness' running this country. Your helping THEM your getting the weed for THEM. If they dont like the size of your bags tell them to fuck off.

just dont skimp your friends too badly, and if you do make sure it happens few & far between and have something fat next time they wanna pick up. (by friends i mean the people who know you best and you smoke with. The people that would be there if you had to fight)

[Metaphor]

whats your deffinition of skimp???
what do you pass off as "gram's"??

[xmordeciax]

yea..:wtf: your deffinetly a dick! Never short someones bag, people always tried to short my bags but every good stoner has a scale nowadays! and belive me i'd be right in your face if you shorted me! However.. you can charge them all you want, its thier choice to buy from you!:thumbsup:

[halfassedjediknight]

ah shistey!

[Diary of a Madman]

whats your deffinition of skimp???
what do you pass off as "gram's"??

whats my definition of "skimp"? asking for an ounce for example, and getting less than an ounce.

whats my definition of a gram? 1000 milligrams.......

[TheGreenFog]

If you don't want to sell, but they can't take a hint, just start charging them double. Don't pinch the bag. Just charge double. Say that that is how much you have to pay now...so the increase gets passed along to them. They won't want to do it after a while, and on the off chance they do, you get paid more and you're not pinching their bag. They have all the facts and know what they are getting into...even if it is $100 eighths.


I guess if you are growing...and they know it...then this suggestion might not work, but hey, you gotta be honest with them. Slip & Skink's suggestions were good, too. Be upfront.


Be cool.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[Skink]

people against this dude are people that rely on someone to keep them in the green,,,of course they will call you a dick because they want shit for nothing...

there is NO difference in taking product or monies for your efforts in making someone's life a little better at a risk of making your own worse...

wake up people enterprise makes the world go round...

[Greenport]

word up skink!

[Purple Banana]

Pot shouldn't be all about money, but of course, since it's black market, it is.

I ALWAYS weigh my bags when a deal goes through. Always. If it's skimped and I pay full price, I got back, and demand money back or the equivalent of my bud back.

I got ripped off on an ounce once, weighed it WITH the bag, and it only came out to about 80% of an ounce. I was pissed. Went right back, and I got the remaining 20% plus about 6 extra grams. If you rip people off, they can get back at you in FAR worse ways.

Moral of the story? Yeah, that IS a real dick move. Stoner's code, man. We're all peaceful individuals here, would you rip one of us off? It shouldn't be all about the money, and if it is, then go back to selling harder drugs...

[iwantFUEGO]

Dude, you dont have to steal from your friends... But you can think like a business man, and not be a dick at all.

If you know for a fact that 5 people are going to buy a sack from you every week, then you go buy a half zip or a full zip. Spend like 160 or 300 accordingly and then sell your friends 50$ eighths...

You come out with a free quarter and an awesome friend for going out of your way to get every1 weed... (even tho you "dont deal")

Peace chillin man :hippy:

[Skink]

Pot shouldn't be all about money, but of course, since it's black market, it is.

I ALWAYS weigh my bags when a deal goes through. Always. If it's skimped and I pay full price, I got back, and demand money back or the equivalent of my bud back.

I got ripped off on an ounce once, weighed it WITH the bag, and it only came out to about 80% of an ounce. I was pissed. Went right back, and I got the remaining 20% plus about 6 extra grams. If you rip people off, they can get back at you in FAR worse ways.

Moral of the story? Yeah, that IS a real dick move. Stoner's code, man. We're all peaceful individuals here, would you rip one of us off? It shouldn't be all about the money, and if it is, then go back to selling harder drugs...

I would just raise the price on you,,,you don't get the point...

this dude needs to come back and explain himself further because peeps are taking him out of context...

he's not buying pounds and shying peeps...

[Purple Banana]

Would you like to be ripped off, Skink? I wouldn't bother with a dealer who rips me off more than once... It's simply not tolerable. I really don't see your point?

For the most part, at least around my area, the smaller you buy, the more the percentage yeild for the dealers... When people don't make that much money, they buy smaller amounts, and when they're getting screwed, even if it's only a little bit, it can still add up.

EDIT: I don't care about jacking up the price. If they're dumb enough to pay large amounts for weed that's not worth it, that's their judgement. But selling a short bag is not a good way to go.

[cannabis campbell]

If your gonna deal just do it properly lol but at the end of the day if they are your friends then you shouldnt rip them off unless you really hate them or something

[ValkyrieAg]

My opinion on this issue is much different than most of the folks on this thread. I also think that some of the people that have voiced their opinion probably don't comprehend due to the weights they typically see.

I would be lying if I said I didn't short people ~5% of weight or overcharge when I buy midgrade/schwag. If I buy it for ~35/oz, I sell it for 50/oz, even to friends. Not because I don't like them, but because that is the market price, and anyone buying from me most likely can get it elsewhere. I do not overcharge but if there is money to be made on a transaction, I have no problems pocketing my buddy's 20.00 because I risk myself when i am holding, driving, walking with it.

If it is my personal stash (see sig) or some hi-quality, you get every last .x gram but if its a middleman situation, I will usually markup 5-20.00. I get 'rid' of my personal stash for free OR market price, not because I want to make money, but because thats how you get into trouble with other people who may "compete" with you (and you may not even know it).

One could argue that the 'market price' is whatever the buyer is willing to pay for it.

Lets say someone came up to me and said "hey, can I get a quarter from you?" and I say "im a little light right now, but if you are willing to do 120.00 for the 1/4, we could talk."

Now if you think thats a dick move, reanalyze the situation. If you are not willing to buy for 120, thats totally cool with me. I'll smoke the 1/4 and you can go dry or find another 1/4. Good luck.

[TheGreenFog]

Valkyrie, I'm confused now, man. You said you short people 5% of weight or overcharge when you buy midgrade/schwag...but then yous said you DO NOT overcharge...but you will pocket a $20? Then you said if it is a middleman situation, you will markup $5-20...

Dude, it just seems like you said ALL of the points that everyone has said on here in one post(however contradictory they may be). What's your point? I don't understand? I'm not trying to argue, but I'm confused.

Plus, if I read correctly in the beginning, this guy is not asking if shorting people on a regular basis is cool. He said he doesn't want to sell...and he's told his friends that he doesn't want to...but they still call. Therefore, my only idea was to tell them you have none...or if you can't do that, tell them that it costs more, and if they are willing to pay, that is their decision. Or if you grow...and they know...you're screwed. You should've kept your mouth shut to begin with. :rolleyes: Then maybe you can blame your new high price on the rising cost of petroleum...whatever.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[Nation_1ne]

Yeah, that's a pretty dick thing to do. Note that I'm not calling you a dick, but I think that I'd have to give a hearty ass beating to any of my "friends" who overcharged/shorted me. I'd say if your head isn't in the right place, let people know that you're not holdin any more.

A hearty ass beating? In that case you deserve to be ripped off in the start. Since when is it acceptable to beat on another friend? Even if he is ripping you off, you confront him about it, you don't run in swinging.

[Reefer Rogue]

I think skimping a bag is an insult.

[ukmonkey]

Charge what the fuck you like, its your shit but give them a weighed up bag.
Fair game.

[Zefn]

I think gipping friends isn't cool. I mean do what you want, but I wouldn't overprice or gip my friends. :(

[xmordeciax]

this thread just confuses the fuck out of me now

[smok3y]

Dude that sucks piniching outta bags.. If you done that to me I would call you up and arrange to meet you and kick the shit outta you and tax everything that you have got on you.. Even your trainers!

Seriously man, you should just start selling again or not bother getting people bits atall if you aint making shit outta it... I HATE people who give u short bags!:(

[xmordeciax]

When people short me I make them commit Hari-Kari to restore their honor!

JK... but yea don't short people just charge them a bunch! If anything dealers should be hooking up the bags not shorting them!

[ValkyrieAg]

Well, FOG, there is a thing called a service charge. I don't short *all* the time, but if I am broke as hell, I will go buy an oz, resell it, and if I want to roll a joint, I will. When I say that I short, I don't always short. I short people less than 5% of the time. I am hardly ever empty, but If I am, I will roll a joint or 2 before I resell that oz and make 5-20 extra dollars.

So just because I get it for cheap, I need to sell it for cheap?

Overcharging and market price.
I do not overcharge, because if you look elsewhere, it is going to be the same price..market price. I just happen to have a little cushion to make a profit. Sometimes its a sellers market, other times it is a buyers market. Supply and demand.

So if I just did 'favors' for everyone, technically I would be transporting MJ (risking my car/body/butthole/freedom) for no apparent reason.

If you can't afford what I can offer, then you probably won't be able to afford elsewhere. I just happen to have that 5-20 cushion. If its really good stuff, hell ya i could get rid of it at 60, and people would buy it.

Quantity Quality and Value are the 3 rules when buying. Who cares what *I* get it for? Do you bitch out Walmart because they make a killing off reselling a product to you? No, matter of fact, people love walmart for their low prices. Same with me.

Also, there is a difference between buying schwag/midgrade where there is nearly 25% waste (stems seeds). So yeah, there is a leeway there too. I do not short fine manicured bud because that stuff is more than just 2/gram. Also, 95% of the weight is smokable.

BTW, i do not sell MJ. This is just 'what if' stuff.

[ValkyrieAg]

I suppose when I say 'overcharge' I mean 'markup', which is a nice word for it.

I (may or may not) have gotten POUNDS of schwag/midgrade over the past couple of years, and have *never* weighed an ounce that I purchased. Now, if thats fine manicured bud, you *will* get all of it and I *expect* all of it.

[ValkyrieAg]

Therefore, my only idea was to tell them you have none...or if you can't do that, tell them that it costs more, and if they are willing to pay, that is their decision.

Yeah, I understand what you are getting at, but the last time you went and purchased a bag, did you ask the person you are getting it from:

"where did you get this?"
"who did you get it from?"
"how much did you get it for?"
"how much are you making off this sale?"


Besides, selling is not a good choice to begin with.....but who are you to question the price of an illegal (and i use that loosely) drug?