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Weedhound
04-09-2007, 09:42 PM
How many folks here would be willing to give up the booze to have legal mj?
This is not a question for medical users btw (although I want everyones' opinion) strictly for "recreational" purposes here....:jointsmile:

higher4hockey
04-09-2007, 09:44 PM
if alcohol was illegal you would have one very angry hockey fan on your hands.

originalblu
04-09-2007, 09:44 PM
i'd smoke over drink any day

Weedhound
04-09-2007, 09:47 PM
well it didn't work back in the twenties either....i'm just curious as to where everyone stands...:)

Dr.Hashman
04-09-2007, 09:49 PM
I'd brew alcohol in my closet.

higher4hockey
04-09-2007, 09:49 PM
im on alcohols side, i prefer drinking to smoking.

originalblu
04-09-2007, 09:55 PM
every time i drink i feel dulled down,, i cant think stright or act stright, when i smoke my sences are ellavated and i find myself thinking freely, often times philosophysing with my fellow smokers

Skrappie
04-09-2007, 09:56 PM
I smoke way more then i drink, but i like to booze it every now and then, and i'm sure i could get some if it were illegal, since it wasn't hard to drink in the 20's so I'd be perfectly happy in your hypothetical pot loving society.

SonicBloom
04-09-2007, 09:57 PM
Being as drinking is a source of physical and sexual abuse, irrational violence, and vehicular manslaughter every single day, and marijuana is the source of munchies, I'm more for marijuana being legal.

Both should really be legal though, responsible adults should have the right to drink if they want, just as to smoke.

mfqr
04-09-2007, 10:01 PM
Well, there would be a lot of people getting diseases from badly made alcohol, since there would be no quality control. But I wouldn't care much, because I would rather smoke weed than drink. This is an interesting hypothetical question, though. Prices for Cannabis would go down a lot, and I bet there would be a similar way of selling it like in Holland, where there are coffeeshops, etc. I think it would be great, but the prohibition of alcohol would only cause more problems, just like it caused problems when it WAS ILLEGAL. I think it would be lame either way. Prohibition of anything does not work.

But yes, I would love for Cannabis to be legal!

JeKo
04-09-2007, 10:08 PM
I would smoke over drink any time, but they both should be legal. You can't even argue that bud is worse than alcohol, in terms of deaths, health, and the effects of being on both.

Little Boy
04-09-2007, 10:09 PM
i'd shit a brick of weed

Skink
04-09-2007, 10:11 PM
I am at a point in my life where I understand alcohol,,,I know it is nothing but poison... I have been taught in a hard way,,,but not as hard as some...
My father basically took his own life with alcohol and ruined many other lives in the process... I can not even think of an instance were pot was fatal... I do believe there is abuse of herb though,,,and it can wreak havoc on family's...When a person makes pot their sole purpose it can devastate their position in life... I am all for the legalization of pot and could care less if all the booze in the world was used to fuel our cars and heat our homes...

Dr.Hashman
04-09-2007, 10:24 PM
I don't really know about this one. I drink alot, red wine at dinner, maybe sip on a little bit of scotch whisky after. Then every once in a while I will have mamosas at my house when my friends stay overnight. So all my daily drinking, or my daily toking? To Toke or to Drink, that is the question. Which one is of the utmost importance to you? Your glass of Shiraz at dinner and scotch after or what about your daily toking in the backyard? What ones do you choose, what one would you rather have to bootleg? Hmmm... I'd rather grow cannabis secretly. After all, when you grow cannabis not many bad things get put into them, but when you brew alcohol secretly, alot of weird shit goes in there.

Maybe with the internet they will have forums.alcohol.com and it will be just like this one. "Hey dude! Check out my new micro-cab beer brew!" says the guy with a blurry face, "I have a CO2 injector here set up to go off for 2 minutes every 6 hours."

Jderringer
04-10-2007, 01:27 AM
i'd smoke over drink any day

Word... Wish I woulda done that last night... My head wouldn't hurt so damn much right now.

Matt the Funk
04-10-2007, 01:42 AM
I don't really know about this one. I drink alot, red wine at dinner, maybe sip on a little bit of scotch whisky after. Then every once in a while I will have mamosas at my house when my friends stay overnight. So all my daily drinking, or my daily toking? To Toke or to Drink, that is the question. Which one is of the utmost importance to you? Your glass of Shiraz at dinner and scotch after or what about your daily toking in the backyard? What ones do you choose, what one would you rather have to bootleg? Hmmm... I'd rather grow cannabis secretly. After all, when you grow cannabis not many bad things get put into them, but when you brew alcohol secretly, alot of weird shit goes in there.

Maybe with the internet they will have forums.alcohol.com and it will be just like this one. "Hey dude! Check out my new micro-cab beer brew!" says the guy with a blurry face, "I have a CO2 injector here set up to go off for 2 minutes every 6 hours."LOL! Yeah maybe weed illegal would be better...I mean....I dunno....I don't drink that often but I DO like drinking. Getting a buzz from alcohol is pretty fun and relaxing, not getting really drunk though. Like a few beers, or a glass of or two of wine. Also weed is easy to get now and very much tolerated by most people whos opinions I respect. I'd rather grow weed than make alcohol. Anyways the world would deff be kinda wierd...just my :twocents:

make it legal
04-10-2007, 01:57 AM
Fuck alcohol. Smoke weed.

I think they should both be legal, not because they I like them both or whatnot, but I just think the same should apply for alcohol; people should choose what to put into their own body.

BakedDaily0420
04-10-2007, 01:59 AM
Alcohol numbs the senses and the mind. Weed lets them flourish. Weed all day everyday

originalblu
04-10-2007, 02:00 AM
^^^ for real
:smokin:

MacWQ33
04-10-2007, 02:03 AM
Life would be pretty boring if alcohol was illegal and buda wasn't. A hell of a lot more people drink than smoke first of all. Second of all, what's a party without alcohol?!? Shit, what's any social gathering without a little booze.

Like Matt said above me, the world would be pretty weird. When you're high, for most people, they like to keep to themselves. Socializing is what makes the world go 'round, and fill that with legal cannabis and illegal alcohol, and shit would not be able to function properly.

I think they should both be legal, but definitely not alcohol illegal and weed legal.

BakedDaily0420
04-10-2007, 02:06 AM
ah yes they both should be legal but that wasnt the question it was which do you prefer. and weed dosnt make you unsociable, me and my friends always get together and share our stashs and drive around and hit up parties. p

RyanTheCaveman
04-10-2007, 02:09 AM
Killing time.....Under blue mind!....fate up against your willll! through the thck and tin! he will wait untill...you will give yourself to him! fate up nagainst your will! through the thick adn thin! he wait UNTILLL....until you giv eyoutrself to him. to him himmmmmmmmmm.....*guitar solo*...


anywyas im really high...
i actually liek to get drunk though....

MacWQ33
04-10-2007, 02:11 AM
ah yes they both should be legal but that wasnt the question it was which do you prefer. and weed dosnt make you unsociable, me and my friends always get together and share our stashs and drive around and hit up parties. p

Umm, the question is not which do you prefer. It is 'what are your thoughts on the hypothetical situation that alcohol is illegal and weed legal'. And I said most people become unsociable. It's definitely more of a narcotic substance.

whitestalkslongwalks
04-10-2007, 02:14 AM
i'd rather have pot legal than booze, but i love my single malt scotches to death


personally, i don't believe that any substance that is not used to harm SOMEONE ELSE should be illegal. yes, that means i don't believe heroin, coccaine, meth, or any drug should be illegal. i don't believe it's the government's job to regulate what we do with our own bodies. now, at this juncture in world history i'm only campaigning for marijuana. why? well, first because it is the only narcotic that i would use myself, but more importantly: because it is by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR the safest and most acceptable illegal drug. pot being illegal is really laughable, and we need a wake-up call if we actually think that it's REASONABLE for it to be outlawed. that's beyond propostourous

we cannot as a people just accept the actions of our governement as "that's the way things are". that's cowardly bullshit. things are the way they are because we let them become that way. all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. i'm going to get partisan now so i'll hope you'll forgive me (i don't hate republicans! :) ), but the current administration, and ones like it have totally turned away from their supposed calling as "LIMITED GOVERNMENT". they've exacted unbelievable breaches of our civil rights and privacies, of which the patriot act is the most obvious; our government has too much power, and it is leading us down a path to being in the crosshairs of more than half the world who hate us more each day. "well, of course the world hates the USA" is bullshit accept-ivism. you have power, don't let anyone tell you otherwise


on the flipside, i believe we are far too linient on those who INTENTIONALLY harm others. pedophiles, murderers, armed robbers; if you do harm to someone else, i'm believe in extreme punishment.

originalblu
04-10-2007, 02:14 AM
^^ i love blazen in social setting, everyones chill passin blunts,, your not chill with the right ppl:thumbsup:

Andrew Nguyen
04-10-2007, 02:15 AM
I prefer to be happy, hungry, and sleepy.

lazy smoker7
04-10-2007, 02:15 AM
I would always smoke over drink.... but seriously I think cannabis should be legal compared to alcohol. I believe they should both be legal but maybe if alcohol was illegal there will be a lower amounts of death rates and I am pretty sure its less of a hassle to brew alcohol in a closet than to grow a plant in a closet or correct me if I am wrong. Plus If alchol became illegal it would be incrediably easy to hide unlike smoking is.... so yea I would definately love to have cannabis legal and alchol illegal but I would rather them both be legal....

MacWQ33
04-10-2007, 02:20 AM
^^ i love blazen in social setting, everyones chill passin blunts,, your not chill with the right ppl:thumbsup:

LOL, I love doing that too with 10-20 people. But, the majority of people would probably not like that so much. Just based on posts on this cannabis site, I can see most people at least on here like to get high alone, it's pretty evident.

And come on, I'm just saying alcohol is far more social than trees, and calls for a better time in most social situations.

BakedDaily0420
04-10-2007, 02:22 AM
I have seen more fights when people are drunk then some kid getting high and wanting to be left alone. hmm which is the more unsociable one?

whitestalkslongwalks
04-10-2007, 02:26 AM
the world doesn't have to hate us; we don't need to be breeding new terrorists by the bushel; we can try to help, we can try to talk, we can avoid war at all costs


no one has the right to tell me what i do with my body. i can kill it, i can destroy my brain, i can chop my legs off; i can even enhance my well-being and my mind with some weed :) don't be coerced; be free



we need to wake up and take pride in our freedom. and i don't mean the freedom that the government gives us. i mean the freedom that is ours by human right

higher4hockey
04-10-2007, 02:28 AM
LOL, I love doing that too with 10-20 people. But, the majority of people would probably not like that so much. Just based on posts on this cannabis site, I can see most people at least on here like to get high alone, it's pretty evident.

And come on, I'm just saying alcohol is far more social than trees, and calls for a better time in most social situations.

damn straight, alcohol is way more social. when was the last time you sang freebird at the top of your lungs with your arm around a total stranger while high?

orangeman
04-10-2007, 02:32 AM
I don't use alcohol but that's how I think it should be anyways. Laws are backwards if you ask me.

Matt the Funk
04-10-2007, 02:37 AM
damn straight, alcohol is way more social. when was the last time you sang freebird at the top of your lungs with your arm around a total stranger while high?
yesterday:p

Mike23artist
04-10-2007, 03:18 AM
do both legal or not

Weedhound
04-10-2007, 03:42 AM
Wow, heckuva mixed bag there. I tend as a rule to see alcohol as something that releases inhibitions.....not always a good thing (like the stranger you've got your arm around and singing with may be Ted Bundy....)
but not always a bad thing either. It defenitely depends on the person drinking it.....Skink gave an excellent example of out of control drinking. (and I like that he talked about addiction as a sperate thing as well :thumbsup:)

My first thought in posting this question was drinking and driving vs toking and driving but interestingly no one else brought that up so I'll simply say that I do agree with BD that alcohol seems to get people in a lot more trouble than weed does (present laws aside...just generally). Anyone else feel this way or am I full of BS (or both.....) :D

Dr.Hashman
04-10-2007, 05:59 AM
All I know is that I am going to buy an oz of Kali Mist when it becomes legal :)

Reefer Rogue
04-10-2007, 10:45 AM
Alcohol gets you drunk, you can't meditate while drunk.

Free the ganja.

Skink
04-10-2007, 12:52 PM
I will smoke and drive only because smoking raises my awareness...

I found that when I drank I would smoke 5 times more pot,,,I don't know why,,,I just did... I never got the benefit of the smoke as alcohol is effective at canceling it for me...

When I was younger I smoked for buzz factor,,,today I smoke to enhance my sense of taste and smell,,,I pretty much lost that in a accident... Pot also gives me a boost in drive and ambition... Marijuana is a wonderful drug...

I know this is not where you wanted this thread to go,,,but this is how I relate to the topic today...

smoke it
04-10-2007, 01:58 PM
id still drink.

Weedhound
04-10-2007, 05:58 PM
Quite frankly Skink I find things to be pretty much the same way. Smoking makes my life better (imo) drinking makes it worse. I know this is not true for the majority of people but it certainly is for me.

Since becoming involved in this website I am amazed not only at how many people use mj for medical purposes....but also how much and how many people it has helped. I don't think the same can be said of alcohol in any setting.

As for the legality of each.....opinions?

Zohar
04-11-2007, 03:57 AM
If I had to make a choice: weed. But alcohol is surprisingly my social drug of choice...still I can live without...I prefer weed though so that's my vote.

Dutch Pimp
04-11-2007, 07:41 AM
:thumbsup:
damn straight, alcohol is way more social. when was the last time you sang freebird at the top of your lungs with your arm around a total stranger while high?

...the last time I sang..."Free Bird"...at the top of my lungs...most people had not heard it yet....:pimp: .....and I was seriously wasted....:thumbsup:...I had my arm around a post ...or something solid....:stoned:

MeGustaMota
04-11-2007, 08:34 AM
I prefer smoking to drinking for one very simple reason: In a night of drinking all you're gonna to want to do is pee but in a night of smoking all you're going to want to do is eat.

Souproller
04-11-2007, 08:46 AM
I dont drink and has only ever really given me trouble:(
I prefer cannabis a lot more, but all drugs are different and give differnet effects so can be hard to compare realistically I think cannabis should be legalised and there should be more restrictions(or at least increased public awarness) on alcohol.

bucknuts1870
04-11-2007, 01:47 PM
Alcohol>Weed for most social situations. Especially one's involving young coeds. Although the wake 'n bake 'n fuck is one of the greatest things ever too...I'm torn...

Nocturnal Stoner
04-11-2007, 03:50 PM
well then life would be just peachy, crime, rape, murder and street vandalism would be down, while fast food joints and the hall of mirrors would be packed. And life would be good

halfassedjediknight
04-11-2007, 05:23 PM
id smoke a lot more and drink a lot less, obviously..but i would still be buying my guinness on the black market. that would suck.