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Belgicano
04-09-2007, 05:46 PM
Here's the problem.

I can have one mother plant per adult, although.... we are not allowed to use air ventilation, lighting, ph meters, ....

I'd like to grow my own buds, but I want to do it the right way! Our gouverment has caught a lot of growers through the high electricity bill.

Is it possible to grow good smokable weed with a 100 watt lamp and what breed of weed will you suggest? I was thinking about Skunk #11....

If somebody just tell me how to go from A to Z I'd be very very thankful :)

See you!

GreenLadyOfDankDowns
04-09-2007, 06:14 PM
Hmmm, have you considered taking a close look at your current energy consumption? It might be possible for you to cut corners elsewhere so you can use a more powerful lamp for your plants.

harris7
04-09-2007, 07:24 PM
your government isn't catching people who grow with only 1000W of lighting

they are catching people who have 15 1000W lights

you can grow with a 600W lightm, cut some electricity around your house
and you wont have any problems.

100W is quite low, you could probaly grow 1 plant under it.

Belgicano
04-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Hmmm, have you considered taking a close look at your current energy consumption? It might be possible for you to cut corners elsewhere so you can use a more powerful lamp for your plants.

Yes, but I know nothing of our electricity meter. The only thing I know is we pay every month the same for electricity. Just at the end of the year they tell you if you paid too much or too less. If you paid too much they paid you back,... it's understandable I fear the end of the year with not knowing what's coming in the bill.


your government isn't catching people who grow with only 1000W of lighting

they are catching people who have 15 1000W lights

you can grow with a 600W lightm, cut some electricity around your house
and you wont have any problems.

100W is quite low, you could probaly grow 1 plant under it.

How sure are you? What law sais that and where? If this is true I am very thankful for your help, but I know there's a lot of discussing going on here with a belgian cannabis federation whom say: why legalize a plant while we can't grow buds on them?

Anyway, thank you both... this means a lot to me and I will figure this out...
If Harris is right I'll defenitly grow 2 females under 600w lamps. Because I want to do it right,... It'll be a shame if I see a plant grow to be nothing :( and not only financialy lol


Best regards!

harris7
04-10-2007, 09:14 PM
it is because it is impossible to catch such small grows though power consumption.

realize that a hot tub (i know many people with them)
uses 400$ in electricity a month...

so a normal person can have one device that belittles even a large grow

Matt the Funk
04-10-2007, 09:18 PM
Use CFL's.

harris7
04-10-2007, 11:04 PM
Use HPS.,

CFL's have a lower efficiency,
thus they use more electricity to create the same amount of light.

orangeman
04-10-2007, 11:32 PM
Lol if they are busting people for the amount of electricity they are using I feel sorry for the innocent tech freaks in your country. I'm pretty sure they aren't busting you just for using 100-1000 watts of light, just doesn't make sense and it's quite stupid if you ask me. Go ahead and buy the light you want and grow the buds you deserve :hippy: .

whitestalkslongwalks
04-10-2007, 11:48 PM
Here's the problem.

I can have one mother plant per adult, although.... we are not allowed to use air ventilation, lighting, ph meters, ....

I'd like to grow my own buds, but I want to do it the right way! Our gouverment has caught a lot of growers through the high electricity bill.

Is it possible to grow good smokable weed with a 100 watt lamp and what breed of weed will you suggest? I was thinking about Skunk #11....

If somebody just tell me how to go from A to Z I'd be very very thankful :)

See you!


now matter how small your appt, if you use say 100w's of cfl for veg, and 200w of hps for flower, you wouldn't be raiising any suspicions; if you change out the rest of teh bulbs in your house for cfl and not use too much power, you could end up saving on electricity :)

whitestalkslongwalks
04-10-2007, 11:51 PM
The only thing I know is we pay every month the same for electricity. Just at the end of the year they tell you if you paid too much or too less. If you paid too much they paid you back,... it's understandable I fear the end of the year with not knowing what's coming in the bill

well, that sounds like you only have one meter for the appt complex? if that's so, it's definitely i your advantage. we have individual metering here, and i actually got lucky and got a look at the room the meters are in the other day; they're just digital meters with total power used on them; i don't even know if the electric company keeps the data of what time of day you're using power, unless of course you're under investigation


you should find out, but if you just have one meter for the whole complex (for example, here gas is just one-meter for all the units and we split costs (which in that case royally sucks since my neighbors seem to need to have 90F temps in winter and i hardly use it) ) but i digress; one meter for the complex could be a very good thing


the amount of power you're thinking of using is negligable.

i'm going to be starting growing: about 150w cfl's for veg, and a single 250w hps for flower, one closet cut into two rooms

drchon shipped my seeds! one week baby; i'll probably have one mother and two clones in veg at any given time, and have two flowering

whitestalkslongwalks
04-10-2007, 11:58 PM
Use HPS.,

CFL's have a lower efficiency,
thus they use more electricity to create the same amount of light.

ditto; the only reason to use flouro's for flowering is heat

whitestalkslongwalks
04-10-2007, 11:59 PM
can i get something cleard up? is it the watt power that is important about the bulb or the lumens it emits, cus i have these energy savin bulbs that are only 15watts but they give off 900 lumens used to replace a 60 w bulb there just more exspensive then the average bulb

i imagine that's a cfl yo; you'll just need more juice; but yes, lumens is the important measurement


lumens/watt is your efficiency; how much light it puts out for how much power it uses;

HPS is most efficient, folowed my MH, and then different types of flouro: t5HO might be most efficient flouro, but i'm not sure

harris7
04-11-2007, 11:07 PM
can i get something cleard up? is it the watt power that is important about the bulb or the lumens it emits, cus i have these energy savin bulbs that are only 15watts but they give off 900 lumens used to replace a 60 w bulb there just more exspensive then the average bulb
The lumens are important in knowing how much light you need for your space.

try to keep it above 5000 lumens per sq foot

Watts just let you know how much your grow is going to cost in power.

If you are going to have a largish grow 400+watts. try to go for MH and HPS they will be cheaper in power in the long run.

ALso, Disregard the "equivalent" wattage.

So your bulbs are 15W equivalent to 60W.
Forget the 60W, itâ??s just a marketing tool so that you know which bulbs to buy to replace what in your house. When telling people what your using, use the Actual power consumption

Here is a Thread I made regarding power consumption and the cops.
It may be of interest to the original poster
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-lounge/91056-power-consumption-cops-how-2.html

Frickr
04-11-2007, 11:35 PM
Today when i was in the store, i was looking for some grow lights, they had the HPS and the ML but they say you need a ballast, the only ones they had there were for a Fl. light, will that one work? and another question, i seen some incondecent bulbs for plant growth, and i was wondering if those would work?

harris7
04-12-2007, 12:40 AM
DO not USE INCONDECENT BULBS

and start your own thread if you have questions, dont steal

whitestalkslongwalks
04-12-2007, 12:43 AM
92 lumen/watt T5H0's for veg room

140 lumen/watt HPS's for flower room


doesn't get better than that

PlantBoxer
04-13-2007, 10:22 PM
I use a 150 watt HPS witha 70 watt MH. I get 3-4 ounces every 50-70 days or so. Wiith ventilation running 24/7, this box costs about $20.00 a month to run.

chewbacker
04-14-2007, 12:09 AM
I use a 150 watt HPS witha 70 watt MH. I get 3-4 ounces every 50-70 days or so. Wiith ventilation running 24/7, this box costs about $20.00 a month to run.

yes this is good id say for you what plantboxer says is good and cost afective :D

a-hack
04-15-2007, 10:28 PM
so for 10 plants(white widow) what would be a suitable amount of light?

harris7
04-15-2007, 10:57 PM
I can have one mother plant per adult, although.... we are not allowed to use air ventilation, lighting, ph meters, ....
!

wo, do you mean you can legaly have 1 plant per adult?

thats cool

i guess the ventilation and lighting restrictions are for sustainability reasons?

horror business
04-18-2007, 06:20 AM
I use a 150 watt HPS witha 70 watt MH. I get 3-4 ounces every 50-70 days or so. Wiith ventilation running 24/7, this box costs about $20.00 a month to run.

Do those low watt HID lights require a ballast?

oldsanclem
04-18-2007, 02:12 PM
Wondering which watts, working.:wtf:
Lets start of with TV, CD,Printers,Sound sys, and the dreaded incan. light
One turn off all of them with the plug !!!!!!:thumbsup: , they are on hot standby all the time.:(
Next replace all lamps incand's with CPF they are not worth a dam for growing , but keep the buggie man away.
If your on a common meter , the management looks at them every month and can easly find out whos using the power.
I installed a meter (just like the power company's) It cost about 84 bucks a month for 1.000 and 8 4footers 40 watts each, co2 , fans, pumps, meters, computers, etc.
Noise, smell are friends (?) ARE the biggest problems with growing.
NO:Tomcat: :Tomcat: :Tomcat: TE the space under you nose is the most dangerous part of growing.

growinforthefuture
04-18-2007, 06:10 PM
all liughts except normal incandescent have ballasts. cfls and other flouros, the ballasts are attached to the light itself..

harris7
04-18-2007, 07:53 PM
Do those low watt HID lights require a ballast?

yes sir. as said ^ all lights need them but incan.