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med-user
04-07-2007, 04:16 PM
ya know im having a hard time worshiping god, i mean i got court dates coming up and could lose my job. my son was taken from me by his mother just because she doesnt like me and the court systems suck. $30,000 lawyer fees in three different states dosnt mean a thing. easter is coming and should i go to church with all the other people that only go once a year. i also have a hard time at church because because i dont believe the people know my anger.... and they pretend like there all perfect and everyone is so HAPPY... bullshit, why... ya ya ya its cause they have god in there lives.. well i believe in jesus and im never as happy as those (fake) people on sunday. i dont know i guess im just venting, dont know what to do. i cant trust anyone at church functions you know, i mean how many are child molesters and snort coke on the weekends and do whatever else they seem to hide when they walk through those doors, why would anyone want to associate themselves with twofaced people. i know not all are twofaced, to me it just seems like everyone ignores that fact that we are all sinners. now dont get me wrong i talk to god and try my best to listen, but on this subject im not hearing any feedback....
krazy chino
04-07-2007, 05:11 PM
just go and repent YOUR sins and ask God to help you out to make easier for you but mean it with your heart...........dont worry about da other people that go to church for good reputation just worry about YOU....God bless
smoke it
04-07-2007, 06:41 PM
theyre all fake. i tried the church thing about 6 months ago, and was really with it for about a month. then i realized what you did and i just stopped going. i dont know man, life will be hard, but you just gotta keep on truckin. good luck with it all.
bavet
04-07-2007, 08:13 PM
All men are sinners and fall short of God. Keep focused on the Man not men :)
bobhasbitchtits
04-07-2007, 09:10 PM
The perspective that I take on religion has recently changed my outlook on life and beliefs: For the most part I beleive that religion is primarily a justification and a reasoning for our place in this world i.e. our existance. Secondarily (but even more important in my opinion), religion is a means of bettering one's existance. I never wanted to adhere to any specific religion or belief system, however, I found that I enjoy all religion and belief systems because they open my eyes to new things and experiences and let me accept life for what it is. Ultimately, I use religion as a pathway to a better existance, no matter what form it comes in, no matter who is there believing with me. So I say to hell with whoever is faking it, believe what you believe, find peace and solace in your beliefs and take each day one at a time. Sometimes I like to free my mind of my worries with a bowl or two and let my mind wander in my dreams and beliefs. Take a walk with Jesus on a beach, take it all in. Enjoy life, enjoy God's gifts (especially the green ones :jointsmile: ).
Samwhore
04-07-2007, 11:01 PM
Church is not about people, it's about worshipping your god. It's about you, and your connection to God. Many of them are just fake suburban moms who put on a smile and make it look like everything is okay. Why not instead of going on Easter, go on the Saturday before?
Oneironaut
04-07-2007, 11:15 PM
Why have you given into the guilt trip of the "sin" meme? It frustrates me to see so many people giving into this pessimistic Christian view of human nature, and basing their decisions on the idea that all people are somehow inherently evil.
We are not sinners. Sin is a myth. Immoral actions are not immoral because they make your God angry; they are immoral because they deliberately cause harm to the feelings of others.
We are humans, and we all do the right thing most of the time. We are not inherently evil, although we do occasionally do bad things. We've actually made amazing progress in morality as a society. Most people no longer tolerate slavery, racism, sexism, child abuse, lynching, or torture, to mention just a few things that were considered perfectly fine in olden days.
Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, atheist or agnostic, we all seem to have more or less the same moral foundation. We don't want to hurt other people unnecessarily, we want to see justice enacted, we want to be cared for and we want to care for the people we love. Whether they realize it or not, people generally don't base their morality on religion. They base their morality on consideration of other people's feelings in a very utilitarian way.
It's not that you want to rape and kill and steal, but you can't because you're too afraid God will punish you if you do. God or no God, you generally don't want to do these things in the first place, since you recognize that they are wrong because you care about the feelings of others and you realize these activities hurt the feelings of others.
You probably ignore those bits of the Bible that declare as "sinful" things which don't hurt the feelings of others. Eating shellfish, wearing clothing woven from two fabrics, and touching a menstruating female are all sins according to the same Old Testament that gives us the Ten Commandments, but I doubt you're going to call these things immoral. That's because you base your morality not on your religion but on sympathy and utilitarianism, even though you may use religious ideas to back up the utilitarian ideas you already hold.
You don't need to worship God. You don't need to worship anyone or anything. You have the power inside your own brain to tell right from wrong, and you don't need the purported words a mythological invisible father figure to tell you what to do and what to avoid doing. Live for yourself and for the people you love down here on Earth. You don't need to get on your knees and grovel to some imaginary "higher power" to lead a fulfilling life. All you need to do is live for love and peace and happiness, and to do what you think will make the world a better place to be. Don't let ancient texts and superstitious preachers tell you how to lead a good life. Don't let anybody tell you how to lead a good life. Do it for yourself.
Dreamberries
04-08-2007, 06:32 AM
You got alot going on right now try not to expect so much from yourself. Who would not question everything with what you are going through. Your whole world has just shifted.
PureEvil760
04-08-2007, 08:06 AM
I'm not even sure if it was said but if God said he wants you to worship him, that means to worship yourself, treat yourself and think of yourself as god. Bad things that happen in your life is often spirit trying to guide you into a different direction, and everything that happens is only for your highest good. For example " you get in a 2 hour traffic jam, then get gas awhile after that and meet a girl at the gas station that becomes your wife ect." if it wasnt for the traffic jam you would have never met her.
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