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dank4life
04-07-2007, 02:50 PM
right now i'm at day 18 of flowering. im currently using canna nutes and a half dose of pure flowers instead of pk13/14. i was thinking about using higrowcorp pure flowers, gh floralicious plus, and botanicare sweet as a bloom stim solution. am i way off? can someone help? and if i am (way off that is), when should i add a bloom stim?

herbaltivo
04-07-2007, 03:35 PM
Molasses?

I noticed a big change in density on 3 of my 4 when I started adding molasses to every watering. 1.5T/gal for me.

dank4life
04-07-2007, 06:00 PM
so, you think i should just add some carbs? im running down to the hydro store in about an hour and ill report my findings

dank4life
04-07-2007, 09:46 PM
well, i dont get it kinda. i got some carboload because it looks like i have a pretty good bud booster with the pure flrs/floralicious plus/superthrive/cannazyme/carbo load. im a little confused as far as the difference between carbo load and the products like botanicare sweet. hope everything works.

crystallinesheen
04-17-2007, 11:19 AM
From what I understand, the Sweet product and others like it are merely sugar cane/ molasses products. They just quadruple the price and sell it to us as carbo boosters. I am planning on using 2 tbs of molasses per gallon of water from weeks 2 thru 6, alternating waterings with my bat guano (I generally only use Indonesian bat guano as my main flowering fertilizer.) Hopefully it will work fine for me, probably write a thread about it if it does.

xxxhazexxx
04-17-2007, 11:35 AM
if your useing canna nutes use canna bud boost:thumbsup:

rhizome
04-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I'd go with the PK13/14 applied as directed.
Keep it simple.
If ya got the bucks, PK at the end of stretch, Humboldt " Gravity" two weeks before cut ( well after end of structural development). 'Spensive, but it'll pay for itself

stinkyattic
04-17-2007, 01:22 PM
From what I understand, the Sweet product and others like it are merely sugar cane/ molasses products. They just quadruple the price and sell it to us as carbo boosters. .
No this is absolutely not true.
Sweet is a carb synthesizer and I use it WITH molasses to increase the effectiveness of giving a sugar supplement.
TopMax is another product that if you look on the label you will see sugar listed as an ingredient, but it also has synthesizers and a kelp extract that act as bloom stimulators.

Blunted22
04-19-2007, 03:54 AM
Not tryign to hijack your thread man but i was wondering if i could ask stinky a question. Hey stinky ive followed your grows for a while they always turn out great.

I was wondering if you could tell me if any of these products will gunk up my rez or which ones i might want to use over others.


Rigth now im using Ionic grow and bloom

useing fish emulation(fish oil that e word is wrong) 5-1-1 for N (got a N def)
want to use either pk13 or big bud with overdrive

i dont know which one is better or if any of them will gunk up my rez. I would love to use sweet or some other kidn of carb + synth but i cant because of the rez mess. Any help would be appreciated.

Also my plants are now purple (to cold temps at night) what negative effects will this have? Yield, potenecy?

stinkyattic
04-19-2007, 01:58 PM
Kay, I don't 'do' hydro typically but I have hear of people even using molasses in the res without issue. I personally used TopMax in my flood-and-drain without issue.
I don't know about fish emulsion. I DO know that it tends not to stay suspended in the water very well so if you find that hydro growers are using it I suspect you have to have a res that is being mixed all the time.
Um... yeah... definitely post this as a new thread in hydro!
As for low temps, yeah your yield is likely to suffer... ALSO have you considered a cold res as a possible source of your deficiency problems? Just a heads up that you can't really play around too much with forcing the purple using cold temps unless you have good control over your reservoir temperature... nutrient uptake changes at extreme low and high temps and you are very likely to see problems.
Again, I'm not a hydro person; hydroponics is the Dark Side and the closet I'll get to crossing that line is drip-to-waste coco, lol! :D

mattmao
04-19-2007, 02:10 PM
blunted22 get of ionic feeds they are terrible cheap but not so chearfull.i would recomend advanced nutrients or canna full range.trust me you will see the difference!!