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Psycho4Bud
04-06-2007, 05:15 PM
ROYAL MARINE BASE CHIVENOR, England - British sailors and marines held for nearly two weeks in Iran were blindfolded, bound and threatened with prison if they did not say they had strayed into Iranian waters, a Royal Navy lieutenant who was among the capitives said Friday.

Lt. Felix Carman, safely home with his 14 colleagues, said the crew faced harsh interrogation by their Iranian captors and slept in stone cells on piles of blankets. Unable to see and kept isolated, they heard weapons cocking.

"We were blindfolded, our hands were bound and we were forced up against a wall. Throughout our ordeal we faced constant psychological pressure," Carman said. "All of us were kept in isolation. We were interrogated most nights and presented with two options. If we admitted that we'd strayed, we'd be on a plane to (Britain) pretty soon. If we didn't, we faced up to seven years in prison."

Air said she was singled out for propaganda purposes, held in solitary confinement and told the others had gone home.

"Being an Islamic country, Faye was subjected to different rules than we were. She was separated as soon as she arrived, and was told that her colleagues had been flown home," Air said. "She coped admirably and has maintained a lot of dignity."
Britons: Iran bound, threatened captives - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070406/ap_on_re_eu/iran_britain)

I want to see if the left in here is going to either denounce Irans actions or play the Pelosi card and have better things to do.....

Have a good one!:s4:

psykoactive420
04-06-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm sure it will be justified and the situation turned around to where it is the Brits fault and probably Bush' also. I predict warm thoughts of the Iranians on this 1.

eg420ne
04-06-2007, 07:04 PM
Hey at least they werent harmed like the US does to its capitives......

And hey what about them Republicans that went to Syria at the same time as Pelosi.......

Psycho4Bud
04-06-2007, 07:07 PM
Hey at least they werent harmed like the US does to its capitives......

Iran gooood, U.S. baaaad.......imagine that? LMAO! It would be an entirely different post if these Brits were held in Mexico, right?

And hey what about them Republicans that went to Syria at the same time as Pelosi.......

They were far from high ranking officials not to mention NO REPORTS of spreading misinformation.

Have a good one!:s4:

eg420ne
04-06-2007, 07:18 PM
US is BAAAAAD well not the US but this government of evil doers...hey at least them 15 brits are free, but i know you want a alll out war with IRAN.....

and dude i hate defending the democraps but you repubes like to propagandize everything......but dont mention them republicans that went B4 Pelosi, you wouldnt happen to have the names do you

eg420ne
04-06-2007, 07:19 PM
i love mehico.....

Psycho4Bud
04-06-2007, 07:25 PM
you wouldnt happen to have the names do you

GOP Reps. Robert Aderholt of Alabama and Joseph Pitts of Pennsylvania.

That was posted up in a similar thread. By the way, I don't agree on their travels either but at least they didn't stir the shit.

Have a good one!:s4:

eg420ne
04-06-2007, 07:29 PM
It stir up shit cause she a democrap

medicinal
04-06-2007, 07:39 PM
I want to see if the left in here is going to either denounce Irans actions or play the Pelosi card and have better things to do.....

Here's the thing. psycological pressure is exactly what our interrogators use when they are not beating, stacking or sicking the dogs on prisoners. That is what captors do. I haven't heard of waterboarding, have you. they didn't rendition them to some foriegn torture chamber. Psycological interrogation is the least harmful of the choices captors have to accomplish their goals. Did any of them complain of physical torture, NO, so go on with your they're so Bad and we're so righteous bullshit. When you compare what happened to them to what happened in Abu-Graib, I'd say they got off easy. And as far as the Pelosi thing, thank God someone has the sense to talk to our "enemies". Some time I'll take you on about the issues in Palestine, Syria, Jordan, and the rest of the middle east we havent bombed yet, Maybe someone with 2 braincells left working, can see the conditions those people are living under, and make some changes to their condition. If you ever want a peaceful middle east, you have to address the living conditions of the people. But I'm sure your solution is to just Bomb them. Coming up on target, 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 Bombs away!!!

Psycho4Bud
04-06-2007, 07:40 PM
It stir up shit cause she a democrap

LMAO! That should be enough on its own but she did make false statements regarding Israel. Don't play it up like you haven't read that thread.....lol, you posted in it and tried to do a spin.

Nice burka huh?

Have a good one!:s4:

Kid Dynamite
04-08-2007, 05:13 PM
Our boys we're treated much less harshly than in Iranian captive would've been by us. I think cuffing and blindfolding isn't much compared to systematic physical and sexual abuse.

higher4hockey
04-10-2007, 09:20 PM
medicinal~ are you sure you're an American ?

medicinal
04-10-2007, 10:08 PM
medicinal~ are you sure you're an American ?

Damn sure. 5 generations that I know of. Just because I disagree with the present government, does not make me less of a patriot, in fact more so I'd have to say. I've always been pretty much anti-establishment, but this present regime really makes me puke. Bring back the real America and I'll sing it's praises, but this Neoconistic right wing excuse for a government will get no respect from me. Sometime read H.D. Thoreau. Then you'll know my perspective on government. Government is supposed to be controlled by the people, not the other way around, and throw in the corporations (which the founding fathers could not forsee) and the lobbiests which are really running this government, and you have this mess we call government now, Pathetic.

Psycho4Bud
04-10-2007, 10:32 PM
Government is supposed to be controlled by the people, not the other way around, and throw in the corporations (which the founding fathers could not forsee) and the lobbiests which are really running this government, and you have this mess we call government now, Pathetic.

HELL YEAH! For once we agree!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
04-11-2007, 01:15 AM
Medicinal good for you im glad some Americans can see right through this government.If 15 Iranians were captured by the Americans not only would you not see or hear from them again they would be tortured.If its good enough for the Nazis its good enough for the neocons.Remember Dick Cheney before he dicks you.

medicinal
04-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Medicinal good for you im glad some Americans can see right through this government.If 15 Iranians were captured by the Americans not only would you not see or hear from them again they would be tortured.If its good enough for the Nazis its good enough for the neocons.Remember Dick Cheney before he dicks you.

When you see videos of the captives playing ping pong and sitting around joking and laughing, kind of makes you wonder if it wasn't the British Government that was putting the spin on the captives treatment. It certainly looked to me like it wasn't staged, And, how many times have we released hostages and given them gift bags, LOL, Not once. I'd bet they were told to give a negative accounting of their captivity or they'd be punished for admitting they were in Iranian waters.

mrdevious
04-11-2007, 06:15 PM
When you see videos of the captives playing ping pong and sitting around joking and laughing, kind of makes you wonder if it wasn't the British Government that was putting the spin on the captives treatment.

LOL, yeah I saw that too on Glenn Beck. Nice to see the guy isn't biased 100% of the time. Right from the beginning of this I took a wait-and-see approach since either government could and would lie. Looks like it's the British government losing credibility this time. In fact Iran probably planned it this way, to treat the captives just fine then let the British spin it, then release the videotapes of big-screen television soccer matches. Maybe people shouldn't be so quick to believe the propoganda trying to convince us that Iran is the nation of pure evil out to kill us all.

fishman3811
04-12-2007, 01:58 AM
Mrdevious your right but i do think that Iran did treat them well only for the fact it puts them on a good foot with other countries it looks like Iran is so EVIL after all.Then that Iranian diplomat who was captured in Baghdad goes back to Iran and says he was tortured with bruises to show for it and he says the Americans are to blame for his torture classic.So even if he is bullshitting about the torture are you going to believe him or the country that admits to torturing its prisoners.Everybody in the world knows how the U.S treats its prisoners and Bush and the gang lose even more credability.

Silent Wolf
04-14-2007, 08:34 PM
It's dreadful that our sailors and marines were put through such an ordeal. But under the correct government, the British armed forces should be protecting one country, and that is Britain herself, and nobody else. We are not the worlds police force. It is not our responsibility to end the worlds conflicts.

growinforthefuture
04-14-2007, 10:38 PM
WHAT DO YOU THING WOULD HAPPEN IF AN IRANIAN WAR-SHIP WAS FOUND TO BE IN OR EVEN NEAR OUR (us uk etc) WATERS.. SAME DAMN THING. DUH

fishman3811
04-14-2007, 11:04 PM
All hell would break loose

BUZz UK
04-16-2007, 08:40 AM
it's ok guys, Iran is full of Muslims, thay all want to kill us and they are so stupid they wouldn't even notice if we bombed the shit out of their country and took all their oil. Now lets post pictures of that disgusting American flag and eagles and guns and shit! yee haw!

fishman3811
04-16-2007, 08:54 AM
BUZZ UK i dont think they would mind at all.Hey we will be treated as liberators they will be throwing flowers at our soldiars feet....dont you know

BUZz UK
04-16-2007, 07:35 PM
yeah mate, they loved it in Iraq...

fishman3811
04-17-2007, 03:58 AM
Yeah they just love us to death and once they realize that American oil companies have rights to Iraq oil they are going to love us even more.isnt that right Bushies.

Psycho4Bud
04-17-2007, 04:36 AM
Yeah they just love us to death and once they realize that American oil companies have rights to Iraq oil they are going to love us even more.isnt that right Bushies.

Seems that your fine country was one of the first to start new drilling in Iraq.......hmmmm, kind of like vultures after the kill.

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
04-17-2007, 04:54 AM
Well Psycho you got me on that one.I really only heard about it on this forum so i cant really comment no media has said anything about up here that ive heard.But its really disgusting as far as im concerned.But oil vultures are oil vultures no matter what country they are from.

Psycho4Bud
04-17-2007, 04:57 AM
Canadian contractors were banned from business in Iraq until the Canadian gov. forgave 80% of their debt (about $470 mill). Then the good times started to roll.......I forget the actual name of the company but it's your largest if I recall correctly. Somewhere in this forum is the actual thread regarding the contract.

Have a good one!:s4:

Psycho4Bud
04-17-2007, 05:02 AM
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/57333-iraq-oil-ministry-warns-western-oilsands.html

Found it!

Have a good one!:s4:

fishman3811
04-18-2007, 12:47 AM
Well P4B a typical neocon diversion tactic.That still doesnt excuse your country from attacking Iraq..When Canada was asked to help in invading Iraq at least our government said no due to the fact that their is no WMDs or Al Qada connections.But we do have 5000 troops in Afganistan that need to get the hell out.Remember Dick Cheney before he dicks you