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bong_man
04-04-2007, 11:15 PM
Just wondering how many people actualy still like bush? :) george bush that is lol

rebgirl420
04-05-2007, 12:10 AM
...yeah

Gatekeeper777
04-05-2007, 12:13 AM
I like bush............................... to be Impeached.

rebgirl420
04-05-2007, 12:15 AM
yeah i knew id be the only one who did

mfqr
04-05-2007, 12:23 AM
Well, who should care about Bush? You know he's just a figurehead, right? He's not the one calling the shots--Cheney is... and probably some other people too.

Psycho4Bud
04-05-2007, 12:34 AM
:S2: LOVE to support Bush!

Have a good one!:s4:

JackdaWack
04-05-2007, 12:36 AM
Bush has no idea what he is ever talking about, people tell him what to say, and ofcourse he can never explain his actions.

Half the shit bush does, i agree needs to happen, but it needs to be explained and portayed to the public better.

Every word that comes out of his mouth is like a monkey scratching its ass. If he took the right words and bettered his speaking skills he would be alot better as a president....

JackdaWack
04-05-2007, 12:48 AM
double post sorry

B.Basher
04-05-2007, 01:06 AM
Bush is a fucking moron. Why did people vote for him twice?

Sheer, unbridled fear and desperation. Same old story. Humans are weak like that.

medicinal
04-05-2007, 01:13 AM
~LOL~, What a loaded question. There are 2 views on Bush, Bad and worse. If you're a neocon or a right wing conservative then it's only Bad, If you're anything else it's worse. People that can honestly say they support Bush, IMO, are mentally disturbed individuals. This guy is such a loser that even his own party is abandoning him. I think if he had any decency he would A. resign, B. commit suicide, C. leave the country to never return. But we all know he has no decency. So we the people must endure this idiocy for 21 more months. I hope I live long enough to see this lunatic brought to trial for crimes against humanity.

JackdaWack
04-05-2007, 01:19 AM
I would have to disagree, he is a moron and does shit for wrong reasons, but that doesnt mean his actions are completely useless. Dick chaney should be hung.


People would like to believe in peace but the fact of life is that there will never be peace. So we do what we can to protect ourselves, im more appalled with the treatment of US citizens and there rights.

Nice Dreamz
04-05-2007, 01:33 AM
i understand most of what he does IS for the welfare of the country, however he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

so i do support him

bong_man
04-05-2007, 01:34 AM
its funny the way its 16 - 3 so far and hes in charge of your country! lmfao, I think people realy underestimate his intelligence.

mfqr
04-05-2007, 01:38 AM
None of Bush's actions are his actions. Like I said, he's a figurehead...

Dest
04-05-2007, 01:41 AM
Bush is fine, he hasnt negatively impacted my life in any way and he is smarter than most of the people who critizize him- id like to see them lead the free world...Actually I take that back.

medicinal
04-05-2007, 01:43 AM
its funny the way its 16 - 3 so far and hes in charge of your country! lmfao, I think people realy underestimate his intelligence.

It's not his intelligence. It's been proven over and over that he was a D+ student with all the juice money can buy (juice=influence) I think they have a chip installed in his head that tells him what to say, and understanding the voice in his head sometimes confuses him. I doubt if the guy could recite the ABCs without a handler. He failed in everything he tried untill the Saudis did the implant and funded him.

krazy chino
04-05-2007, 02:29 AM
i hate bush

Markass
04-05-2007, 03:49 AM
fuck bush, he's an arrogant dick with intention. He has no fucking care what the American people or congress have to say about what happens to our money and soldiers. The worst president in history. I'd give nearly anything to have 10 minutes to say just what I wanted to him..


Also, every time I open the newspaper...at least like four or five times a week, I see where there was 1 or 2 more young 20 year old men or so that have died again yesterday in another roadside bomb...WTF, I'm tired of this shit, these are guys that have their entire lives ahead of them, but instead, they're dying in Iraq for Iraq? Fuck that shit.

peacetrain
04-05-2007, 04:02 AM
Bush should be impeached. He has broken over 750 laws, and has utterly destroyed any reputation America might have been able to earn.

I think he's one of, if not the worst president in the history of the United States.

peacetrain
04-05-2007, 04:08 AM
And although I realize some of his mistakes may have been caused by his horrible Cabinet, he ultimately has the decision of what happens or doesn't happen.

And why is it only when a President fails that he's "just a figurehead". Why don't we discredit F.D.R. with his immense success during the Great Depression? Because a pres is not just a figurehead, they're supposed to be our leader! If a harmful decision is ok'd, it's ultimately done by him.

harris7
04-05-2007, 04:18 AM
its funny the way its 16 - 3 so far and hes in charge of your country! lmfao, I think people realy underestimate his intelligence.

I agree,

He says dumb things, maybe he has a speaking problem.

some people i know believe he is smart, but the american political climate prefers dumb people. Something to do with the public being able to relate

(that isn't intended to be offensive, few people can relate to a academic)

Frickr
04-05-2007, 04:39 AM
Before bush took office, we actually had a profit instead of the trillions of dollers we are now in debt.. We are going to have this deflict spending for quite some time, we have spent more time in iraq then we have in any other war, and what have we done? put a few more fucking pennies in bushes pocket to protect his oil wells and oil relations over there, i think we should be more worried about the bigger threats out there, then a country who just hates us, we got rid of saadam what else do we need? Instead of spending the trillions of dollers on the war for oil over there, why dont we use it to make our country completely independed for energy.. Alaska has the worlds biggest untapped oil researves right now, North Dakota is trying to pass laws to legally grow hemp (waiting on DEA approval), we have the resorces right now, we just need to take the time to develope them, and worry about Iran and North Korea, those are gonna be alot bigger threat then Iraq where we are just sitting in the crossfire of a civil war, the civil war over there is a stratigy by them to keep us from winning, and its working!

And the presidential cannidates now arent much better... We need someone thats going to lead the country instead of being the "first" in office, the 2 major ones right now would be the first woman, or the first black man.. Just a way to attract more votes, not a way to lead a country...

pwn3dy0
04-05-2007, 04:42 AM
No. i'm a conservative.

FlyGuyOU
04-05-2007, 04:55 AM
i like bush, his drug policy is fucked up but 95% of politicians are too scared to tell the truth about weed b/c they won't get elected. but i do like how i pay less taxes

Markass
04-05-2007, 05:01 AM
Before bush took office, we actually had a profit instead of the trillions of dollers we are now in debt.. We are going to have this deflict spending for quite some time, we have spent more time in iraq then we have in any other war, and what have we done? put a few more fucking pennies in bushes pocket to protect his oil wells and oil relations over there, i think we should be more worried about the bigger threats out there, then a country who just hates us, we got rid of saadam what else do we need? Instead of spending the trillions of dollers on the war for oil over there, why dont we use it to make our country completely independed for energy.. Alaska has the worlds biggest untapped oil researves right now, North Dakota is trying to pass laws to legally grow hemp (waiting on DEA approval), we have the resorces right now, we just need to take the time to develope them, and worry about Iran and North Korea, those are gonna be alot bigger threat then Iraq where we are just sitting in the crossfire of a civil war, the civil war over there is a stratigy by them to keep us from winning, and its working!

And the presidential cannidates now arent much better... We need someone thats going to lead the country instead of being the "first" in office, the 2 major ones right now would be the first woman, or the first black man.. Just a way to attract more votes, not a way to lead a country...

yes.

Markass
04-05-2007, 05:02 AM
i like bush, his drug policy is fucked up but 95% of politicians are too scared to tell the truth about weed b/c they won't get elected. but i do like how i pay less taxes

do you know anything about the war in Iraq? or about the national debt? great president huh?

rebgirl420
04-05-2007, 05:07 AM
eh well democrats arent so fucking hot either, its more of a "who do you hate more?" kind of deal. It shouldnt be like that of course but it is.

Frickr
04-05-2007, 05:10 AM
GREEN PARTY ALL THE WAY! NADER!

FlyGuyOU
04-05-2007, 06:08 AM
bush inherited a declining economy, had to deal with 9/11 and then has created over 2million jobs all the while putting more money back in my pocket.
he hasn't done the best job as president, but the best since reagan.

FlyGuyOU
04-05-2007, 06:10 AM
but more important that political parties, is to get the government out of my life and away from my paycheck

fishman3811
04-05-2007, 08:54 AM
Bush didnt get elected twice he stole the election twice,he is a fucking liar a cheater and a thief.How can any American still like this idiot?He sold you guys into an illegal war that cant be won,while making the elite richer.He fucked you guys in New Orleans.He doesnt give a shit about African Americans or the poor.He is spending the country to the poor house,somebody has to pay for this war and itll be you guys and your kids kids that end up paying for it.Yet their is still a few of you guys who like bush fuck go smoke some more crack will ya.Or better yet lay of the crack and look at what bush has done to your country.your taxes may be lower now but they will go up because of what this clown has spent.

bejay
04-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Before bush took office, we actually had a profit instead of the trillions of dollers we are now in debt.. We are going to have this deflict spending for quite some time, we have spent more time in iraq then we have in any other war, and what have we done? put a few more fucking pennies in bushes pocket to protect his oil wells and oil relations over there, i think we should be more worried about the bigger threats out there, then a country who just hates us, we got rid of saadam what else do we need? Instead of spending the trillions of dollers on the war for oil over there, why dont we use it to make our country completely independed for energy.. Alaska has the worlds biggest untapped oil researves right now, North Dakota is trying to pass laws to legally grow hemp (waiting on DEA approval), we have the resorces right now, we just need to take the time to develope them, and worry about Iran and North Korea, those are gonna be alot bigger threat then Iraq where we are just sitting in the crossfire of a civil war, the civil war over there is a stratigy by them to keep us from winning, and its working!

And the presidential cannidates now arent much better... We need someone thats going to lead the country instead of being the "first" in office, the 2 major ones right now would be the first woman, or the first black man.. Just a way to attract more votes, not a way to lead a country...

not really the U.S. has had a large national debt for a long time and it was over a trillion back in the 80's and has been climbing ever since check the links below if you really want to know.
U.S. National Debt Clock (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/)
U.S. National Debt Clock FAQ (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html)

just wonder out of all the people on this thread that doesnt support bush wonder how many even bothered to go vote.

Psycho4Bud
04-05-2007, 02:15 PM
do you know anything about the war in Iraq? or about the national debt? great president huh?

I do...........it's nice to see a president actually stand up for what he thinks is right instead of playing the "I voted for it before I voted against it" crap.

When the Republicans had complete control they had to make some tough choices and they did.........so tell me what tough choices the dem controlled congress or senate has made yet. Non-binding resolutions don't count as a hard decision by the way.

IF Kerry would have been in office the Iranians probably would have held them hostages for a hell of a lot longer. Why give in to a flip-flop tree huggin' pussy? Can anyone say Mr. Peanut Jimmy Carter?

Have a good one!:s4:

psykoactive420
04-05-2007, 02:41 PM
I support Bush.

I dont agree with all his policy actions but what do I know, I am a guy NOT in elected office, I dont get intelligence updates, I dont have cabinet meetings with information the public isnt aware of.

How can somebody without access to ALL the information make a intelligenet decision. I am not slamming anybody here I just support MY COUNTRY. The USA.

I am proud to live in a country where I can slam the government without fear of persecution, without storm troopers kicking in my door, you couldnt do this in alot of other countries.

Proud to be an American!

Frickr
04-05-2007, 06:10 PM
i think we need to find more common people that are able to plant their views in congress, and in the cabnets, instead of professional politicians. There needs to be some new found respect for our country, everyones so passimistic about everything the government does, its always their faults, Yes they do have a tough job, but they need to listen to the people more. You look after kennedy was shot, people all over cried for him, same when FDR died. We need a leader that we have a connection with, that way a larger majority would support more of the desicions. I personally have met my states congress man, and the house majority leader is the son of my nieghbors, so thats the kind of connection i kind of feel when it comes to politicians, i want someone i can go meat, and hear them talk. This is coming form a senior in highschool, and if im seeing this sort of stuff, then what about everyone else in the country?

Markass
04-05-2007, 06:16 PM
I do...........it's nice to see a president actually stand up for what he thinks is right instead of playing the "I voted for it before I voted against it" crap.

unfortunately, what the 'thinks' is right is not what the majority of the American people and congress think, yet he continues to ignore our will. I don't think it's nice to see a president do that one bit whatsoever. He's working for us, making the decisions we don't want him to.

He is not right. Securing Iraq is not going to help America. If they want to attack us, there are hundreds of planes that either the however many of them in other countries, or the insane unbelievable amount of these people living in America. It'll happen when they want it to, regardless of if our military is in their country or not. They hate us, and they always will. Our beliefs contradict theirs, their beliefs contradict ours. We're never going to be happy unless we leave each other be.

Markass
04-05-2007, 06:21 PM
I am proud to live in a country where I can slam the government without fear of persecution, without storm troopers kicking in my door, you couldnt do this in alot of other countries.

So that justifies how many american deaths in Iraq? I cannot express with words or action how opposed I am to the way president bush has ignored us, and I will never ever forgive him for that. Nor forgive him for the unreplaceable lives of the few young men that I was friends with before their lives were taken in Iraq. This war is based on deception. And that my friend, is not how a fucking "American Democracy" is supposed to work.

Casualties in Iraq - 2007 (http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/)

station
04-05-2007, 06:26 PM
im Canadian and could give 2 fucks about Bush an America. no offence to the Americans here. i come in peace :hippy:

medicinal
04-05-2007, 06:38 PM
I am so completely amazed at how many sheeple still give Bush a vote of confidence, although it's running right along with his popularity polls. I can't understand what would lead sheeple to make this astounding decision. Do they not read or watch the news. Does Faux noise have that large of an audience. Totally amazing. This is the worst president since I've been alive, 66 years, and 22% of the people still support him. I guess there's something to be said for blind obedience, or outright ignorance, either way, I'd like to know why.

medicinal
04-05-2007, 07:06 PM
I do...........it's nice to see a president actually stand up for what he thinks is right instead of playing the "I voted for it before I voted against it" crap.

When the Republicans had complete control they had to make some tough choices and they did.........so tell me what tough choices the dem controlled congress or senate has made yet. Non-binding resolutions don't count as a hard decision by the way.

IF Kerry would have been in office the Iranians probably would have held them hostages for a hell of a lot longer. Why give in to a flip-flop tree huggin' pussy? Can anyone say Mr. Peanut Jimmy Carter?

Have a good one!:s4:

Say psycho, are you a professional wrestler by any means. You are always on your bully pulpit screaming how us Dems are cowards and gutless chickenshits. To be Candid, without going to Factcheck cut and paste USA, I'd venture to say as many Democrats took us to war and and prosecuted wars as Re-Pubes. Now in my little brain that is not an admirable trait, but at least in your little brain, you should see that the Dems have as much balls as any Re-pubes, but to be honest, the ones that start wars, never fight in them, so how does that make them brave. In fact I've noticed over the years that the most adament proponents of war are the non-participants. Example: Dick Cheney who most think actually was the driving force behind the war, never participated in the Military at all, he was "Too Busy". A few close calls, some shrapnel in your body or worse and you begin to see the reality of war. It is the means by which the Elites gain power and wealth by using the proletariate to do the fighting and dying, just like in the old days where the King sat in his castle and sent forth his armys to conquer more territory and riches, same shit, different time. So unless you're an elite or a king, war is extremely stupid, count me in the extremely stupid camp.

Psycho4Bud
04-05-2007, 07:23 PM
Say psycho, are you a professional wrestler by any means.

LOL.......not at all. I did have an offer once to do the local wrestling gig but turned it down. My old bones couldn't handle that shit.....even a few years back. I did date one of the ring girls though if that counts.:thumbsup:

You are always on your bully pulpit screaming how us Dems are cowards and gutless chickenshits.

Is that all? I seem to be letting them off a bit easy these days...another mark of old age, ya get alot more forgiving in nature.

To be Candid, without going to Factcheck cut and paste USA, I'd venture to say as many Democrats took us to war and and prosecuted wars as Re-Pubes.

I don't know if as many did but it is close.........seems like the dem party had a castration procedure done after Kennedy though......could be the reason why Hillary is the front runner at the present time also.

Have a good one!:s4:

eg420ne
04-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Im proud to be an american, but hate that lying bastard, excuse me, all them lying bastards in washingtondc

mattks1
04-06-2007, 12:44 AM
i like what frank caliendo said about him. he said every time Bush makes a speech, he looks like somebody told him a really dirty joke backstage and he knows that he cant tell you.

medicinal
04-06-2007, 04:55 AM
I did date one of the ring girls though if that counts.

counts in my book. I once dated a french girl from the follies berguere, (spelling not good) smokin hot, and yippers I got to home plate, nice< It was all down hill from there>

AlwaysBlazed
04-06-2007, 04:59 AM
Bush is the worst president ever, fact.

The Figment
04-06-2007, 08:14 AM
The avatar says it all

Frickr
04-06-2007, 09:36 PM
not really the U.S. has had a large national debt for a long time and it was over a trillion back in the 80's and has been climbing ever since check the links below if you really want to know.
U.S. National Debt Clock (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/)
U.S. National Debt Clock FAQ (http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html)

just wonder out of all the people on this thread that doesnt support bush wonder how many even bothered to go vote.

well we were alot better off, we still had deflict spending, but we werent paying for a bunch of shit that isnt worth our hard earned money. I supported the war, up till after they got saadam out of power, we got him out, what the hell else do we got to do? the civil wars not gonna end. And i would of voted if i were of legal age then.

GrowRebel
04-09-2007, 07:26 AM
I think these poll numbers are a good indication of the true opinion of the people concerning the illegitimate bush .... the corporate media has always inflated the numbers ..... I'm shock that he's getting 17% ..... that's a lot considering .... just goes to show you there is a sucker born every minute.:hippy:

:noel:

Matt the Funk
04-09-2007, 07:56 AM
It's not even just Bush...its the goverment in general...

BakedDaily0420
04-09-2007, 09:11 AM
FUCK BUSH!

Abunai
04-09-2007, 10:22 AM
I have a Bush magnent on my mom's fridge, it's on the very bottom...everytime I put it up, it finds its way back down. It was a gift, a silly one...nothing, but a bad joke. We all hate it, but that's how things are. One day it will come down, one day...wee hissstorrryy!

I do not support Bush, I dislike his mentality. I can't believe how much money is being used over there, honestly, what for again? Maybe to protect the oil or the USD currency? Make his friends richer? I give up, just throw that shit to the poor...We are at the highest poverty rate since the 70s. We got a fucking war already here. We should be using that kind of money for our education and shit. Then step it up and be concerned for our neighbors and those who are need of help? Being the biggest economy and all, we should lend our have-not brothers some assistance. All humans are created equally; where is the love? Might as well do some HUGE postive things before time runs out. Good ol history, never fails us haha.

No offense, but fuck Bush and fuck those who are stealing my rights. Lets ALL get together and enlighten ourselves! We'll start by laughing (hit that bong), examining different perspectives (keep yur gdaym religion to urself), and on.

The future is going to be crazy! :rasta: I'll run for president if given the oppurtunity. :rasta:

Rowansraven
04-12-2007, 03:17 PM
The argument of the Republicans in this thread are weak and silly. All basically culminating in the usual "well you're a puss" what's next, going to start double dog daring people? And before somebody tries to throw the "Liberal" word at me, I don't find that insulting, do better. I don't support Bush not because he's a Republican but because I don't think he's doing a good job. I lack the gang mentality that politics has become all about, I don't support somebody just because they fly the right "colors" next thing you know people will be making bandanas with party logos and wearing them hanging out of their pockets and throwing signs.

darren05
04-12-2007, 03:24 PM
dude he's not right on the head just look at this : click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EECBwy1Hqis)

Zimzum
04-12-2007, 03:54 PM
dude he's not right on the head just look at this : click here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EECBwy1Hqis)

He is not a good public speaker and admittedly so. While I'm not a Bush supporter by any means I would like to see others give a public speech that reaches that many ears and see if they will give it 100% error free. I myself would have to be pilled out on valium just to avoid the anxiety attack that would come from public speaking. But it is funny to hear him sound out words that are bigger than two syllables. Pro-lif-er-ati-on

anycraic
04-12-2007, 04:00 PM
well coming from a country far away from america, and never wanting to live there, and not really giving a shit, ill say this. wtf?. from a foreign perspective i have to say bush has made america out to be public enemy number 1, it regularly tops polls of "biggest threat to world peace". not surprising givin all the obviously bullshit wars that bushs puppetmasters have started recently. the idiots (republicans) have fostered all this patriotism and gone to war without looking at the real problems. america has the highest number of gun crimes, murders and the biggest gap between rich and poor anywhere in the industrialized world, the economy is in serious trouble with billions in trade deficits owed to china etc, the u.s stockmarkets have recently been overtaken by others, and the dollar is under serious threat by the euro (soon more people will use it), and its value has plummetted. f'n hell perhaps they should have sorted all that out first? and why do republicans call democrats pussies. democrats took the brunt of the cold war, started vietnam and dealt with the cuban missile crisis, they've actually been involved in just as many, if not more, armed conflicts than the republicans. so thats bullshit. both parties work for the same people anywayz so its much of a muchness.
oh and i seriously dont want to cause offence, and im only asking, but why do americans think there better than everyone else? 'leaders of the free world' hate to break it to ya, but thats b.s.
anyhow im divergeing from the point, bush has damaged u guys beyond repair (the outside world LOVED clinton btw, none of us cared about his personal sexual habits ffs, he could have sucked off donkeys on tuesday nights for all we cared, how has that got anything to with his abilities as president?) people respected the u.s in those days. but yeah, thats ancient history and this is bushville...i think ur gonna find its a very lonely place to be.....

darren05
04-12-2007, 04:00 PM
He is not a good public speaker and admittedly so. While I'm not a Bush supporter by any means I would like to see others give a public speech that reaches that many ears and see if they will give it 100% error free. I myself would have to be pilled out on valium just to avoid the anxiety attack that would come from public speaking. But it is funny to hear him sound out words that are bigger than two syllables. Pro-lif-er-ati-on

but sure why is he running for president when he cant make a decent speech.. he's a plonker just face it, he went to war to get oil, so many people say

Fengzi
04-12-2007, 04:21 PM
There are very, very few great Presidents out there. Face it, it's a tough job and nobody can solve all of the nations problems. To make one group happy you gotta piss another one off. This country is like a big ship continuously sailing into unchartered waters. The most that we can really hope for in a President is that he steers the ship reasonably straight and doesn't fuck things us. Sadly, the cocksucker currently in the White House has failed terribly in this regard.

1. Lied about WMD.
2. Unilaterally invaded a sovereign nation without provocation and justification.
3. Lied during State of the Union speech re: Niger Uranium.
4. Responsible for pre-9/11 intelligence failures in White House, CIA, FBI.
5. Allowed 9-11 murderers to remain free while diverting precious military and financial resources to his vanity war in Iraq.
6. Lied about Saddam/bin Laden connection.
7. Turned Iraq into a terrorist breeding ground.
8. Lied about nation-building.
9. Opposed creation of 9-11 Commission and Homeland Security Department.
10. Disrespected and alienated the U.S. from French, German and other key allies.
11. Lied to Americans about the real cost of war.
12. Fostered an environment of torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.
13. Lined Halliburton's pockets in Afghanistan and Iraq with fat no-bid contracts.
14. Under-manned and under-equipped our armed forces in Iraq, resulting in unnecessary death and injuries.
15. Ignored the nuclear build-up in both Iran and N.Korea; marginalized Kim Jong Il.
16. Shunned Kyoto Treaty.
17. Lied about effects of man-made pollutants on the environment to support corporate pals.
18. Lied about the insolvency of Social Security.
19. Gave huge cuts to the wealthiest taxpayers.
20. Lied about true cost of health care bill.
21. Lied about Free Trade stand.
22. Bitterly divided the nation along religious, party and sexual preference lines.
23. Guilty of numerous cronyism appointments (Homeland Security, Supreme Court, etc)
24. Rewarded failures of Condi Rice and other cronies with key promotions.
25. Dreadful energy policies lead to record gas and oil prices.
26. Responsible for the largest debt in U.S. history.
27. Colossal failure of preparedness, rescue and relief during Hurricane Katrina.
28. Fostered a culture of corruption among GOP and top leadership (Tom Delay, etc).
29. Allowed Donald Rumsfeld to keep job despite utter failure in Iraq.
30. Presided over the U.S.'s lowest popularity throughout the world.
31. Saw No Child Left Behind fail.
32. Lied last week about Iraqi troop strength during Saturday radio address. Directly contradicted by testimony given earlier in the week by Gen. Abizaid.

DryGuy420
04-12-2007, 06:18 PM
What NEEDS to happen is one of the mothers of the fallen soldiers in Iraq needs to get up the will to assinate him. But dont stop there Cheney is next,he is just as filthy. I dont make alot of money and savings is slim but i would donate to the legal fee's of the "Hero" or "Heroin" of the AMERICAN people. America has been on a donward spiral for a long time,it was slow and steady but the Bush Administration has sped that up 1000 fold. I do not solely place blame on him but just like any other figurehead,get him out of the way and support for him stops.

I used to be patriotic,i used to love America,since Bush came into office he has destroyed our country. Democracy which he preeches he wants to give to Iraq is another lie. How can you want democracy for another when you cant even give it to the people you work for? Our government is filled with corruption and greed,it pretty much always has,but this is the most visable display of it there has been. Democracy...........

the Senate signed off on a bill providing $122 billion to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It also orders Bush to begin withdrawing troops within 120 days of passage while setting a nonbinding goal of ending combat operations by March 31, 2008.

Bush response:

"Send the bill to my desk,so i can veto it"

Democracy.............

The majority voted to pull us out,he doesnt think it is a good ideal. You know if he had,had a good ideal.......ever,i would probably see his logic in thinking that what he is doing is a good thing. However a long string of failures is NOT what you want to have backing decisions you make when they go against the wants and needs of AMERICANS.

He wants this war? Send his daughters in on the front lines to fight for it,they are no better than anyother person over there throwing their lives away to raise his oil stocks. Let one of there heads get split by a IDE so he can feel the pain that thousands of other parents feel everyday.

fishman3811
04-13-2007, 03:22 AM
ANYCRAIC My thoughts excactly there are so many better countries in this world.I hear of so many reports of Americans who travel outside of their country saying that they are Canadians it makes you wonder why?But we all know why.Im not saying Canada is better but before you start saying that you live in the worlds best country you should travel and see whats really out there.As far as im concerned America is a police state disguised as a Democracy.Why does America have the highest prison population in the world?Why do you have to take a drug test to fucking work at a minium wage job?Why do u have to have a gun to feel safe?Why are you afraid of getting searched by the police when your just walking down the street?Why are companies allowed to fire you for smoking fucking ciggarrettes.Why do you not have universal health care?You guys are not even close to living in the best country in the world.........

thcbongman
04-13-2007, 03:36 AM
I can't support George Bush. I support America to the end, but I refuse to recognize him as president. Some may argue the casulties we sustained in Iraq are minor compared to Vietnam. The point really is George Bush does not value human life. He sends Americans into a conflict which has no real purpose or necessity.

anycraic
04-13-2007, 06:50 AM
ANYCRAIC My thoughts excactly there are so many better countries in this world.I hear of so many reports of Americans who travel outside of their country saying that they are Canadians it makes you wonder why?But we all know why.Im not saying Canada is better but before you start saying that you live in the worlds best country you should travel and see whats really out there.As far as im concerned America is a police state disguised as a Democracy.Why does America have the highest prison population in the world?Why do you have to take a drug test to fucking work at a minium wage job?Why do u have to have a gun to feel safe?Why are you afraid of getting searched by the police when your just walking down the street?Why are companies allowed to fire you for smoking fucking ciggarrettes.Why do you not have universal health care?You guys are not even close to living in the best country in the world.........

yeah man exactly. ive actually got a few canadian friends. sounds like a hell of a place, kinda european in a way, definitely gonna vist sometime

fishman3811
04-13-2007, 07:07 AM
Anycraic yeah were more european because of our ties to the queen of England and we have the same type of government as the English.It sucks being neigbors to America because they are bullies.Canada was going to decrim marijuana and America said fuck you you are,if you do that we will tie up the border so tight that itl take you a week just for a 2 day visit.But at least we dont do 25 years in prison for growing a few plants in our house,like that of our neighbors.Canada is a great country but come in the summer when its nice and hot.you dont want to visit Canada when its -40 outside

majin
04-13-2007, 07:22 AM
I never thought I would say this, but some of you need to give up the dope and spend some time learning the issues if you plan on talking about them :). Oh, and I'm not an asshole. I just play one on forums.

I love you all. Except for you dubya.

GrowRebel
04-13-2007, 05:56 PM
If I could go anywhere in the world it would be Amsterdam .... true land of the free ..... but alas my budget will not allow such a transition .... I tried to look into transfering my work ticket to Canada, but they would not even answer any of my inquires:(

.... The illegitimate bush regime is only part of the problem .... the real problem are those individuals in the PNAC and skull and bones .... they hold the true power .... do you think it's a coincident that two bluebloods, both members of the same secret organization, both related, both from the same area .... were chosen for president?

These people believe they are better than the rest of us. We are fodder as far as they are concerned. They had no problem causing the deaths of more than 3000 people here, tens of thousands overseas, and anywhere from 5000-10,000 of our soldiers .... to start a perpetual war with perpetual profits for themselves and more control over the populations which is there goal. Our lives mean nothing to these people ..... some of them may believe half of the population needs to be eliminated.

I've always been surprise how much more people from other countries knew more about our government than most Americans. If I do travel aborad I would have to say I was Canadian, because I am ashame of what this country has become and because of this illegitimate regime's foreign policy my life is now in danger traveling parts of the world.

The illegitimate bush regime got the ball rolling, but these so called "elite" have always believe they are smart and we are stupid .... that's why they control the voting systems .... they believe we are far too stupid to choose leaders so they make those choices for us .... just as they are doing now.

If I could leave the country I would .... but I can't .... and if these people have there way it won't matter where I go ... they are working to globalize ...... so I will fight for the good name that was once the USA.:hippy:

Psycho4Bud
04-13-2007, 08:22 PM
If I could go anywhere in the world it would be Amsterdam .... true land of the free ..... but alas my budget will not allow such a transition .... I tried to look into transfering my work ticket to Canada, but they would not even answer any of my inquires:(

I'll be damned.....there is something good to say about Canada after all. :S2:

Well lefties.....hold down the fort; I'm off for the weekend to do my usual thing that for some odd reason hasn't fallen against the catagory of my rights being taken away in the patriot act. :thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

GrowRebel
04-14-2007, 01:10 AM
I'll be damned.....there is something good to say about Canada after all. :S2:


:S4: :S3:

fishman3811
04-15-2007, 10:11 AM
Canada rocks as long as you can handle the igloo from caving in during summer but as we like to call it the long weekend

JOINTMASTER5
04-15-2007, 10:20 AM
oh man dont even get me started....

RonnieRay
04-17-2007, 10:36 PM
Bush has been the worst president ever, period. Not just because the invasion of Iraq was such an obvious error either. It's because he does not get the simple childhood lesson that you get more bees with sugar than vinegar. I'm sure I'll get a boat load of shit for saying this, but dialogue is the key to effective foriegn policy. That's right dialogue even with your percieved enemies. Syria, Iran, North Korea. WTF good has it ever done to publicly insult the leaders of these countrys? Calling them the axis of evil? Calling them dictators, thugs, etc.? It does not make a shit difference if it's true or not. Want to improve relations with North Korea and possibly influence the decisions of Kim? How about approaching the leader of a very large country with a giant army with a little respect and perhaps he might at least enter into meaningful communication with us. It does not matter what his terrible record of human rights violations is, school boy name calling is not going to influence him to improve his behavior. How about publicly stating that "The US is interested in renewed dialogue with the leader of the great country of the DPRK as a means of improving current relations and hopefully to bridge some of the divide between our views and theirs" A simple public statement like that from our president, secretary or other high level official might actually get us into some usefull communication. Same with Syria. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this too, but Pelosi had the right idea, even if her execution was a bit faulty. Our view is that Hamas is a terrorist group desearving of no support and that must be eliminated or destroyed. Their view is 180 the other way. They believe that Israel is illegally occupying land. They believe that because the Palasinians are so outgunned with our money and weapons, that groups like these have been backed into a corner like a cat up a tree surrounded by dogs and therefore have had no choice but to resort to terrible things like suicide bombings. Nothing will ever get better as long as BOTH sides are unwilling to comprimise at all. How about offering to forgive past sins and accept these groups as legitimate political parties if and when they are willing to change their MO going forward? (as one part of an overall comprimise of issues) How about being a little understanding of the fact that they have been put into a position of having to try and fight a tank with a slingshot? I am not justifying the practice of suicide bombing. Just trying to make a point that improvent of any kind is going to require a change in policies on BOTH sides and name calling and insults are never going to lead to improved relations. .