Racist Terms

[Breukelen advocaat]

Why are derogatory words like "Redneck" and "White Trash" still allowed on this board, while racist terms for other groups are automatically replaced with astericks?

[rebgirl420]

I dont think alot of people find that offensive ya know. I mean you can say it on tv or the radio and no one really freaks out. Its not like the N-word, where thats very hush hush.

[Matt the Funk]

Redneck and white trash are more based on social status?

[Breukelen advocaat]

Redneck and white trash are more based on social status?

Partially, but the N word is usually as well. They're both used to denote race and class. I think that if there is censoring of words for any particular groups, it should be done for the others as well.

[Psycho4Bud]

LMAO! My hat has White Trash on the front......most of us white trash rednecks are kind of proud of it. Keeps our noses out of the elites pollution.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Breukelen advocaat]

LMAO! My hat has White Trash on the front......most of us white trash rednecks are kind of proud of it. Keeps our noses out of the elites pollution.:D

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Another case of a double standard. I'm not big on censorship myself, but it's not right to allow derogatory terms to be used against one group, and not the others. It's only my opinion.

Have a good one!

[Psycho4Bud]

Come on now B.A., your a New Yorker.....now if some of the other white trash rednecks in the room complain fine but......

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[rebgirl420]

well if everyone wants to get technical then i want to be called caucasian-irish founded-american-female

[Breukelen advocaat]

well if everyone wants to get technical then i want to be called caucasian-irish founded-american-female

That's not a derogatory description.

[Inferius]

I've never seen anyone be offended by the word redneck.
And white trash... calling anyone trash is offensive,
but in the right context (humor) it's ok.
I'd rather not give more power to words.

[mattks1]

i would probably say because whites were never enslaved and called rednecks or white trash. iono though, i still struggle with the whole midget, dwarf, little person thing.

[Breukelen advocaat]

i would probably say because whites were never enslaved and called rednecks or white trash. iono though, i still struggle with the whole midget, dwarf, little person thing.

American whites WERE very much "enslaved" - and the modern "Rednecks" ancestors were, to a large degree, indentured servants who were worked to death alongside the African slaves in Virginia, and many other places. In fact, the term Redneck was invented during the days of Indentured Servitude - because working in the cotton fields make the white servants necks bright red.


Redneck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck)
"Similarly, some historians claim that the term redneck originated in 17th-Century Virginia, because indentured servants were sunburnt while tending plantation crops"

A good book which I own, and have read:
The Redneck Manifesto (book) at AllExperts (http://en.allexperts.com/e/t/th/the_redneck_manifesto_(book).htm)

[Psycho4Bud]

Anyone see the episode of South Park when they had to turn X-Mas into a politically correct event?;)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[rebgirl420]

yeah thats a great episode! And its funny..is this the new political section?

[Breukelen advocaat]

yeah thats a great episode! And its funny..is this the new political section?

Yes, and t's called the poliics of double standards.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Well, I dunno about "white trash" or "redneck", but I know I got a nice infraction for referring to Marshall Mathers as a "honkey". I didn't even think I was using a racial slur when I posted it.

Weird Al refers to him as "Mr. Marshall Mathers", ya know what I'm sayin? :cool:

Weird Al interviews Eminem. - CollegeHumor video (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:950545)

[Bob the Awesome]

I love that video, so hilarious.

I don't know, White trash is hardly as bad as the N word... what about black trash? If we can say white trash we should be able to say black trash, yellow trash, brown trash.... blue trash...

[bong_man]

i think censorship is totaly bullshit everyone should be aload say the N WORD if they want if you blinked out all the racist terms u shud'nt say anything like paddy or brit or paki etc etc what if someones name is paddy or brits like to call themselfs brits like n words like to call themselfs n words and pakis like to call themselfs pakis lol

[Greenport]

the n word CANT be offensive anymore. It cant be. Impossible the way its used in todays society.

[higher4hockey]

redneck is not a derogatory term, its a lifestyle.

[Breukelen advocaat]

redneck is not a derogatory term, its a lifestyle.

People use it as a derogatory term on this board. If you do a search of the word, there are numerous examples of it being used in a hateful context. Negative stereotyping is forbidden against some groups, but allowed to be used on others. This is unfair.

[LIP]

People use it as a derogatory term on this board. If you do a search of the word, there are numerous examples of it being used in a hateful context. Negative stereotyping is forbidden against some groups, but allowed to be used on others. This is unfair.

I agree with this 100%, although, at the moment, i've been lucky enough never to be called white trash or a redneck.

Double standards - it's like blokes sleeping around is ok, but as soon as a woman does it shes a slut.

Not fair in the slightest.

[Skink]

I think the word ni&&er in any context is wrong,,,I had a hard time writing it in this sentence... Redneck and White Trash are acceptable because Rednecks and White Trash are proud of it and appreciate the recognition...

[Skink]

What about all the black people that go around calling each other n*****s?

It seems to be accepted among themselves and becomes a friendly word at that point... I am white and in any context it is racial... Native Americans don't like to be called Indians but,,, as a group they are not as vocal as black people... if there was a native American Martin Luther,Al sharpton and Jesse J,,, I would think the word Indian would go on a list of words not to say...

Any word delivered in a disrespectful way is wrong... Why is one word more than another more tolerated is basically voice opposing it,,, IMHO...

[Breukelen advocaat]

I think the word ni&&er in any context is wrong,,,I had a hard time writing it in this sentence... Redneck and White Trash are acceptable because Rednecks and White Trash are proud of it and appreciate the recognition...

The word "Rednecks" has been used on this board in the context of hate and negative stereotyping. Do a search.

Not acceptable at all, IMHO.

[Skink]

The word "Rednecks" has been used on this board in the context of hate and negative stereotyping. Do a search.

Not acceptable at all, IMHO.

I'm thinking the places you see it are tit for tat...

[halfassedjediknight]

you cant say cracker on here can you?

[Breukelen advocaat]

The following posts are just a small sample of the types of prejudice I am referring to. This is pure hate. Try substituting another racial epitaph for "redneck" in these messages, and imagine what would happen if they were posted like that.

no offense to any one thats a redneck, but i hate stupid rednecks in lifted trucks!. I was merging onto the freeway and some assholes in a lifted chevy tried to cut in and i didnt let him so he was all pissed. Then he pulls next to me and him and hes fat friend start yelling shit out the window throwing stuff and they try to swerve into me. I was so baked and this just ruined my high. ARGH piss me the fuck off!. next time i see those fucks, some ones getting a ice pick to the neck
http://boards.cannabis.com/experiences/68433-im-so-pissed.html#post861875

I hear you! Seems like here in Texas, every vehicle on the road but mine is a redneck-driven lifted truck. Be careful out there, tho! It's just those sorts of folks who'll chase you down and shoot you before you can blink an eye.
http://boards.cannabis.com/experiences/68433-im-so-pissed.html#post861875


Yeah rednecks piss me off. I go to partys out here in the Michigan countryside and if your a stoner you better bring friends with you or your gonna get jumped. They like to fuck with stoners for some reason. Then theres wannabe redneck kids who wear john deere and the chicks like them because of this. Stoners get looked at like criminals and the beer swillin rednecks are considered cool. I just dont get it. Now dont get me wrong i have some hillbilly friends but when rednecks get together at a party there assholes. I had a friend who got pushed by a redneck and his hand broke through a car window. My friend started beating the shit out of him then 5 rednecks jumped him and started kicking the shit out of him. Now for one it was bullshit because the kid he was orginally fighting deserved it and 2 my friend is only like 5'7 and he got his ass kicked by a group of kids that where all bigger than him. Now i dont know if all rednecks around the country act this way but the ones around here do. They talk shit, and when someone stands up for themself they get jumped by 5 other kids. It's kinda sad that around here those are considered the "cool" kids.
http://boards.cannabis.com/experiences/68433-im-so-pissed.html#post865538


sorry man, didnt mean to harsh your mellow. I just hate preppy people. But I hate rednecks even more. And by hate I mean it more along the lines of not love. To be honest, I just hate dumb people. Except dumb hippies. They're funny.
http://boards.cannabis.com/introduce-yourself/84952-hello-all.html#post1009839



I only attack after I've been attacked. I'd rather not attack at all. I'm still sticking with my theory that the Christian right and southerners are less intelligent. After all they voted twice for the asshole known as Bush
Now if you are a right leaning Christian, or from the south, you may be the exception, as not all of them can be dumbasses, just enough to re-elect Dubya. I also have watched the Dixie Chicks movie and if you want to see dumbass rednecks from the south, go see it.
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/106698-edwards-diary.html#post1312043


HATE Wal*mart, sorry, but its for rednecks
http://boards.cannabis.com/womens-issues/103270-girl-rules.html#post1255495


A few Notes on americans: Most of us are proud of our country and ready to fight you over it......... A lot of us have guns, but we're not rednecks or gangstas.
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/99189-yeah-i-am-american-so-what.html#post1199755

after years of research we still have no report from the rednecks as to whether or not humans can crossbreed with sheep
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-com-lounge/20745-what-redneck.html#post214506

[thcbongman]

There's always the ignore button.

We can't expect the mods to clean everything up. We gotta clean our own messes first.

[Breukelen advocaat]

There's always the ignore button.

We can't expect the mods to clean everything up. We gotta clean our own messes first.

But it's not a problem! They don't have to "clean up" anything - just make the system put asterisks for these offensive words, like it does for others. I posted the lyrics to an offensive rap song which contains the n word, that claims Bush knocked down the Twin Towers, and the system did it automatically.

Post number 37 here:
http://boards.cannabis.com/conspiracy/109733-odonnell-9-11-rant-reaches-30-million-viewers-video-2.html

[latewood]

These quotes are the state of mind the poster is in. Ignorance. White trash is not limited to the south, neither are rednecks.

As an analogy to the "other" racially motivated, hence banned terms. I don't agree redneck and white trash fall in that category.

As far as dealing with a post similar to your quotes BA...I would agree that in some of these circumstances, perhaps it could be considered flames...

Hell; It's late. don't you all have something better to do? lol

[tomasinho]

If a white person cant say the n word, then why can a black person call a white person a redneck? Why not allow all words to be said? Blacks, whites, and people of all color worldwide are all sick of being censored by our governments - why cant cannabis.com be a place where people can be honest with each other and not be censored? I tell ya - I am sick of people claiming to be rightous by trying to make everything politically correct - to those people I say take your rightousness and shove it - you are not helping anyone by shutting down their right to be honest and say what they feel.

[Skink]

I think decorum should lead,,, if we are to be respected...

[tomasinho]

There is no respect in forced and/or biased decorum. The decorum should be 100% equal for everyone involved or their should be no enforced decorum. There are people who are not proud of being called white trash or a redneck and do not enjoy it. People are as proud of being called white trash as they are an nword. Both words are hurtful in some contexts and ok in other contexts to the respective people that are labeled as such. The question is - why are some words banned and others not? Why the double standard?

[Pipe Dreams]

Why are derogatory words like "Redneck" and "White Trash" still allowed on this board, while racist terms for other groups are automatically replaced with astericks?


... Since when is "Redneck" offensive? Hell, REDNECKS call themselves rednecks. :wtf:

But yeah, whats wrong with white trash also? IM white trash :D:thumbsup: :wtf:

[LIP]

Ahhh, you might like to be called white trash, but others might not. Same with the N word, some may not care, and to others it's extremly offensive.

[MacWQ33]

Who gives a shit, get a life. It's the way things work, accept it or don't.

And btw, black people refer to themselves as n***A (used like 'dude' or 'bro')....not n***ER (derogotory term)...there is a difference (why? I don't know, but again, it's the way things work..accept it or don't). In practice, it's use and meaning are heavily dependent on context, simple as that.

Honestly, there's not one single word that would offend me. Grow up, and have some self respect. If a word offends you, there must be some truth behind it. If there is no truth to it, why would it offend you in the first place? If someone says something I don't like, I'll just laugh at them, no need to complain and go 'all political' on them.

[halfassedjediknight]

if anyones calling me white trash, im finding it really offensive, because i know for one im not, and its stemming from sheer ignorance and malice. i dont appreciate the term. its scummy.

but there are worse. like i said earlier, what about cracker? its kind of the white equvalant to the n word

[Skink]

There is no respect in forced and/or biased decorum. The decorum should be 100% equal for everyone involved or their should be no enforced decorum. There are people who are not proud of being called white trash or a redneck and do not enjoy it. People are as proud of being called white trash as they are an nword. Both words are hurtful in some contexts and ok in other contexts to the respective people that are labeled as such. The question is - why are some words banned and others not? Why the double standard?

Sorry but,,, life is never perfect we can only try...

[Skink]

Fact is say Ni##er to a black person and it is an immediate afront... Say redneck to a southern person you are more likely to get a chuckle...

[halfassedjediknight]

Honestly, there's not one single word that would offend me. Grow up, and have some self respect. If a word offends you, there must be some truth behind it. If there is no truth to it, why would it offend you in the first place? If someone says something I don't like, I'll just laugh at them, no need to complain and go 'all political' on them.

thats not all too true. maybe speaking for yourself it is to you.

if someone calls me something im not, then yeah i find that pretty offensive. the fact that there is no truth behind it is a part of it being so offending. havnt you heard anyone say something along the lines of "you dont know me, dont act like you do"?

[birdgirl73]

... Since when is "Redneck" offensive? Hell, REDNECKS call themselves rednecks. :wtf:

Indeed they do. I'm not sure that BA knows any people who would happily explain this to him.

Breuk, in your comments on these boards, you personally have shown more disdain, derogation and derision about more groups than anyone I can think of, from poor single parents to Muslims to women to goodness only knows how many others, and that fact makes it particularly ironic that you should be choosing right now to whine about terms that are a fairly general part of the lexicon.

I'm going to say this to you because I think it needs saying, Breuk. If you find these terms so offensive, then you clearly need to plan to spend time someplace else where your delicate--and strangely contradictory--sensibilities are not going to be offended by reading them.

Something's up with you. Not sure if it's because you're actually deeply unhappy about some aspect of your own life or what. But in recent weeks, you've been determined to find "exterior" things here to take issue with. And it seems like what you really need to do is fix the only thing you have any real control over, which is much more limited: it's simply your own reaction. If you have a personal aversion to the two terms in question, the solution is quite simple. Stop reading.

[halfassedjediknight]

if you mow your lawn and you find a car, you might be a redneck.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Indeed they do. I'm not sure that BA knows any people who would happily explain this to him.

Breuk, in your comments on these boards, you personally have shown more disdain, derogation and derision about more groups than anyone I can think of, from poor single parents to Muslims to women to goodness only knows how many others, and that fact makes it particularly ironic that you should be choosing right now to whine about terms that are a fairly general part of the lexicon.

I'm going to say this to you because I think it needs saying, Breuk. If you find these terms so offensive, then you clearly need to plan to spend time someplace else where your delicate--and strangely contradictory--sensibilities are not going to be offended by reading them.

Something's up with you. Not sure if it's because you're actually deeply unhappy about some aspect of your own life or what. But in recent weeks, you've been determined to find "exterior" things here to take issue with. And it seems like what you really need to do is fix the only thing you have any real control over, which is much more limited: it's simply your own reaction. If you have a personal aversion to the two terms in question, the solution is quite simple. Stop reading.
This is a suggestion forum. Hatred of poor southern people is not a good idea to promote while other groups are protected. The "Rednecks" are the last minority that are permitted to be subjected to stereotypes, and worse.

I didn't expect to be told, in so many words, to "get lost". You have attacked me, personally, many times without cause, simply because you disagree with my opinion(s). Your "redneck" posting was a slur against a group of people that are the working class of this country.

You are perfectly welcome to provide examples of what you think are my deficiencies in tolerance, but I doubt that they are as bad as the hatred shown toward the working class people called "Rednecks" - unless you're talking about radical, militant Islamic jihads and their supporters.

A number of other people agree with me that it is wrong to allow "Redneck" and similar insults, and ban other racist words.

If you don't like my posts, then you can "stop reading" them as well.

[halfassedjediknight]

gettin crrrraaaaazay! :silly:

[LIP]

I see your point BA, but anyone would think your trying to get banned. It's been said that it wont be changed, so we must accept it and move on. I hate this saying, but in this case its true - sticks and stones and baseball bats will break my bones but words will never hurt me. It's just letters on the internet.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I see your point BA, but anyone would think your trying to get banned. It's been said that it wont be changed, so we must accept it and move on. I hate this saying, but in this case its true - sticks and stones and baseball bats will break my bones but words will never hurt me. It's just letters on the internet.

I was willing to drop it, but there has been a renewed interest in the subject. Fine if I get banned. I didn't insist that they do it - this is a suggestion forum. All I would like to see is the word "Redneck" replaced with asterisks, like the other banned words. Apparently, there must be a scapegoat and the poor Whites are the ones that have been chosen for this injustice.

[birdgirl73]

Actually, all I've done is argue with you. You feel threatened by that. And so you regard it as an attack. It's much easier to call me an elitist or a snob than to actually look at yourself, isn't it?

LIP is right. Are you really wanting to get banned?

[Breukelen advocaat]

Actually, all I've done is argue with you. You feel threatened by that. And so you regard it as an attack. It's much easier to call me an elitist or a snob than to actually look at yourself, isn't it?

LIP is right. Are you really wanting to get banned?


On what grounds? Go ahead - be my guest and ban me. At least I'll sleep better knowing that I stood up for what is right.

[LIP]

I think this has all got a little heated and we all need to take a step back and try and bury all this bad feeling - and that's comming from me of all people.

[birdgirl73]

I hear you on that, Billy, and I even understand Breuk's point. I come from a fairly long line of Southern rednecks myself. It's true that there are some who might take offense at that. What BA has done, though, is become like a broken record instead of making his point and letting Sundance and everyone else ponder it. The result is that more than anything, he ends up being the one we wish we could put asterisks in place of. And really if he'd just learned when to let go, he might have been heard.

[halfassedjediknight]

yeah now were just gonna hear more

[Gatekeeper777]

I hope that I do not get banned for this. I only have friends from one race.
The HUMAN race , to classify yourself or another person as white black or oriental or otherwise is boarderline racist. I am proud to be "Hillbilly and redneck" for example he is my black friend. thats pure bullshit! he is your friend period! do your friends introduce you as here is my racist bigot friend, or here is my retarded friend.
also I think to say" the "n" word or to even censor it is borderline raceist, the dictionary says that it lazy ans shiftless.
Well let me tell you that that definition has no color barrier.
i could go on but this white boy would get banned. so i will stop before i offend.

[Breukelen advocaat]

That's an awfully provoking post Birdgirl...

This thread isn't about BA.

She obviously has other issues with me. :thumbsup:

They ask for "Feedback", and now I'm told to leave if I disagree with something.

[halfassedjediknight]

you guys are taking a perfectly debatabal argument and making it completely personal. thats dumb.

[LIP]

I hope that I do not get banned for this. I only have friends from one race.
The HUMAN race , to classify yourself or another person as white black or oriental or otherwise is boarderline racist. for example he is my black friend. thats pure bullshit! he is your friend period! do your friends introduce you as here is my racist bigot friend, or here is my retarded friend.
also I think to say" the "n" word or to even censor it is borderline raceist, the dictionary says that it lazy ans shiftless.
Well let me tell you that that definition has no color barrier.
i could go on but this white boy would get banned. so i will stop before i offend.

thats what i've always said. Theres only 1 race, and thats the human race. Were humans - were the same in every way.

[birdgirl73]

Like I said, I hear his point. And no, I'm not going to say more and am not going to ban BA. Someone else needs to make that decision anyway. This post started as a post with a point and then became about him arguing incessantly. I just got into it this afternoon and, admittedly, have probably made the situation worse. I'm stopping now. I have to go study biochemisty anyway.

[MacWQ33]

IMO, the n-word is a curse word as well as a racist/prejudice term. The c-word is a curse word IMO. Redneck is not a swear LOL, there is actually a whole cult phenomenon based on it (Jeff Foxworthy - You might be a redneck if....).

You must be a fucking redneck yourself if you take offense....geez...fucking redneck pieces of shit. :)

Redneck is like the same as calling someone a hippy, but I don't see any bullshit thread on that.

Don't mind me...lol...but damn do some people have to get lives.

[Psycho4Bud]

THIS has gotten WAY out of hand.......so it's Hammer Time! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJcEH5UThv0)

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Skink]

Let's go linch Jeff,,,it's all his fault anyway...