Britain takes case against Iran to U.N.

[Psycho4Bud]

UNITED NATIONS - Britain took its case to free its 15 sailors and marines held by Iran to the United Nations on Thursday, asking the Security Council to support a statement that would "deplore" Tehran's action and demand their immediate release.

But Security Council diplomats said the statement circulated by Britain's U.N. Mission is likely to face problems from Russia and others because it says the Britons were "operating in Iraqi waters" â?? a point that Iran contests.

The British move came as Iran rolled back on its promise to release Faye Turney, the sole female British sailor among the captives, and a senior Iranian official suggested all of them may be put on trial.

Iran's military chief, Gen. Ali Reza Afshar, said that because of the "wrong behavior" of the British government, "the release of a female British soldier has been suspended," the semiofficial Iranian news agency Mehr reported.
Britain takes case against Iran to U.N. - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070329/ap_on_re_mi_ea/british_seized_iran)

Perfect example of why we should NOT deal with terrorists. Their great at keeping their word. Sorry to all you Iran supporters.

Have a good one!:s4:

[eg420ne]

When did Iran become a terrorist state- Ohhh when bush said axisofevil...lol...
Iran has every right to detain them IF they were in iranians water...but i have my own theory on this but then this post would be moved to conspiracy forum

[GrowRebel]

The Britions lied about WMD .... and they have been working with the illegitimate bush regime to "create" a reason to go to war with Iran ....
... I have no doubt the British were indeed in Iranian waters .... just as US aircraft kept violating their air space a year or so ago ....

....and psycho ... just because we don't want another war for profit doesn't mean we support Iran .... that's just a buzz word you bushies like to spout because you have no facts to back your statements.

They didn't fool me the first time .... they sure as hell aren't going to fool me now. :p :hippy:

:noel:

[higher4hockey]

correct me if im wrong , but werent the brits in Iraqi waters?

we're at war with Iraq, if british sailors were taken prisoner , then they are POWs, to me that is an act of war.

[Psycho4Bud]

correct me if im wrong , but werent the brits in Iraqi waters?

we're at war with Iraq, if british sailors were taken prisoner , then they are POWs, to me that is an act of war.

It's o.k. ........GrowRebel has found a safe home living up my ass. Probably why he can't see what's happening in the world. :S2:

Iran gooood, west is bad bushies.......what a joke!

Have a good one!:s4:

[eg420ne]

He said, she said...They said.....Whos water belongs to who, i say we should believe the lying government on this one...but wait the brits are the nice ones---- LoL

[Psycho4Bud]

He said, she said...They said.....Whos water belongs to who, i say we should believe the lying government on this one...but wait the brits are the nice ones---- LoL

Yipper, just saw on TV the Brits marching down their main streets shouting down with Iran.....OOPS, got that backwards. But the Iranians are the "nice ones".

I say we follow your friends lead and have a massive protest with people screaming death to Iran, burn up some of their flags, etc.....hell, you all think that this is the peaceful way to act.....why not?

Have a good one!:s4:

[eg420ne]

Sooo P4B do you have Stock in the Iranian market, like with Iraq and its dinar, wonder what the exchange rate is in that market.....;)

[higher4hockey]

iran is asking for a big kick in the teeth, and i'm more than willing to give it to em.

[Psycho4Bud]

Sooo P4B do you have Stock in the Iranian market, like with Iraq and its dinar, wonder what the exchange rate is in that market.....;)

Actually it's depleted down to about 9000IR:1USD. Happy investing!:thumbsup:

Oh, did I tell ya the exchange has dropped a bit over 200 points now. With the economic growth (that isn't happening) and the oil contracts with several countries (which isn't happening) and also the revival of their agriculture industry (which isn't happening) their currency is getting stronger. Bet the people can't wait to receive them oil checks for 3 times the average annual income. LMAO....but it isn't happening, right?:D

Have a good one!:s4:

[medicinal]

iran is asking for a big kick in the teeth, and i'm more than willing to give it to em.

Saddle up, put on a vest, grab an M-16, and head on over, I'm sure they can accomodate you. All you right wing zealots profess war but for some reason never seem to participate. Go on, Get some. Gets real exciting when you realize the incoming is gettin close.

[higher4hockey]

never seem to participate? im a veteran you asshole.

[Prunedale]

never seem to participate? im a veteran you asshole.

Lol... you tell em... Thank you for your service to this sorry country.. I hate that they waste good men like you bro...

GO SHARKS

[eg420ne]

They take you no matter how old you are, re-re-enlist by all means, if you think america can afford wars brought on by a lying ass government then go for it...

[Dutch Pimp]

never seem to participate? im a veteran you asshole.

...Crease Fire!...higher4hockey..I think medicnal is a veteran too..:thumbsup:

..he just sees things different...comprende?....Fratricide kills just the same way..

[higher4hockey]

yeah sorry, i get a little bent out of shape at times when people talk smack about our government and the military.

i guess im one the few people left that thinks 'my country right or wrong'

[slickrick]

nice debate....how will we find out who is lying about whos waters the hostages were in?? i definately would trust my own government over the iranian goverment, fuck iran

[LIP]

The English were in Iraqi waters, the Iranians are forcing the captives to lie and say that they were in their waters.

Iran are wrong - just like every other single time.

[AlwaysBlazed]

Iran is dumb, do they not see the tensions going on? They're asking for us to bomb them. This whole situation is stupid. As for Iran being terrorists, you're a scum if you think that. They're human beings who live under a scumbag leader, not everyone one is out to bomb you.

[psykoactive420]

personal attacks discredit your statement AlwaysBlazed.

The Iranian Government is (I believe) drawing attention away from the recent nuclear restriction talks and trying to highlight this incident.

Not every Iranian wants to bomb/kill other people, but alot do, by watching their propaganda broadcasts of death to Israel and the west, the government sponsoring of terrorism (hamas for example) the power structure of Iran is drawing their people into a bad situation.

[Gatekeeper777]

Here is my take on the whole 9 yards.

George Bush is a radical religious nut. almost as bad as those muslim alcada types.

I truely believe that he feels that if he makes stuff happen he will bring about the End of the world
he is the anti-christ and I can prove it!

George W Bush is the AntiChrist (http://www.bushisantichrist.com/)

I rest my case!

[Wicked Rebel]

Iran TV shows 'confessions' - Focus on Iran - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17896952/)
How can any American even remotely be on the side of the iranians when they are chanting "death to America" and "death to Britain"? Free speech is a great thing, but when it's put in the hands of idiots, free speech becomes the greatest enemy against the U.S. and the soldiers. It has almost become embarrassing how divided the U.S. has become. You live in America, if you don't like the president or how things are ran, then get out, go to Iran, but first convert to muslim so they don't kill you. You should be thankful our gov't doesn't kill you for having different opinions. And veterans who are bashing the gov't and America must have missed the point of being in the army. A soldiers greatest honor is dying for their country and everything their country believes in.

[Psycho4Bud]

Here is my take on the whole 9 yards.

George Bush is a radical religious nut. almost as bad as those muslim alcada types.

I truely believe that he feels that if he makes stuff happen he will bring about the End of the world
he is the anti-christ and I can prove it!

George W Bush is the AntiChrist (http://www.bushisantichrist.com/)

I rest my case!

Here's my take.....Iranians holding the Brits hostage doesn't have jack shit to do with Bush.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Psycho4Bud]

How can any American even remotely be on the side of the iranians when they are chanting "death to America" and "death to Britain"?

LOL.....keep reading and prepare to be amazed! I'm with you dude!!

Have a good one!:s4:

[urgrass]

hey guys im new to this and i am wondering where do i go to start a new thread?

[Psycho4Bud]

hey guys im new to this and i am wondering where do i go to start a new thread?

Open the forum to see all the threads.....in this case "Politics".....in the right hand corner you'll see "Forum Tools"....give a click and there's where you'll find thread starter.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[bong_man]

hey guys im new to this and i am wondering where do i go to start a new thread?

LMFAOOOOO!!!!

[bong_man]

I'll never believe a word from the brit gov! there war hungry bastards, same mindframe as the us! i'd say there lying like they always do :)

[LIP]

I'll never believe a word from the brit gov! there war hungry bastards, same mindframe as the us! i'd say there lying like they always do :)

I admit, they lie alot - but they can hardly be lying about the 15 being taken - as we know it;s true. And we also know they wernt in Iranian waters - the joy of GPS.

Iran are in the wrong, and if they carry on like they are they'll be taught a much deserved lesson.

[bong_man]

I was'nt saying they were lying about the 15 being taken, I was saying they were lying about were they were! i would'nt put it past them to fake the gps logs! but i actualy have no idea about this and im to high for it so l8r! lol

[LIP]

I see your point. But tbh i really do think they're telling the truth, the MOD wouldnt lie, the Governemnt? Yes, but MOD no.

[Psycho4Bud]

I was'nt saying they were lying about the 15 being taken, I was saying they were lying about were they were! i would'nt put it past them to fake the gps logs! but i actualy have no idea about this and im to high for it so l8r! lol

Why the hell is it that the U.S. and Britain are the war machines that are always wrong but the assholes that chant "death to" on their streets and hold our people hostage are the good guys?

Have a good one!:s4:

[LIP]

Why the hell is it that the U.S. and Britain are the war machines that are always wrong but the assholes that chant "death to" on their streets and hold our people hostage are the good guys?

Have a good one!:s4:

Not to mention the disgusting brain washing of children. It's part of their bloody cirriculum.

[Psycho4Bud]

I'd either get em' back or see Iran blown to hell. Since "79" they've been playin' this type of shit and it's time for OUR leaders to grow a set.

DEMAND release of all hostages on the 2nd or else. Morning of the third Tehran sees 15 M.O.A.B.s on their city.....the next day it's 15 more......when Tehran is gone the Brits pic a new city.

These people only understand hard line force.....time to kick some extremist ass!
:Tomcat: :apachecopter: :S4: :s4: :S4: :apachecopter: :Tomcat:

Have a good one!:s4:

[bong_man]

I dont trust anything that any goverment says! When i see this stuff on tv i realy try not to take sides, I just feel sorry for the people getting hurt! When i think goverment i think money hungry liars! they all brainwash, they all have millions of secrets, they all care about profit more than there people! well thats what i think anyways, I hate all goverments, USA, UK, iran, ireland etc etc all they do is lie, cheat and steal and tell me what not to do! I guess you could call me an anarchist, I dont believe in any of this "your goverment is always right" when i see people say things like "god bless america" "god save the queen" i cringe because i think god is a lie and the goverment is a lie and all there doing is brainwashing people with that shit! If i was raised in a muslim family thought everyday to believe in all that lark then i would! if i was raised to believe in god and that my goverment is always right then i would! all countrys brainwash in differant ways i just wish there were no goverments and no religions and everyone could think of the same and stop all this war and rules shit! im realy realy realy highhhh and know that im gonna get flamed for this post making no sence at all and im sorry for trying to reply after so many hits hahas l8r! :jointsmile:

[bong_man]

i'll try again! americans believe what there goverment tells them! they have to defend there great country etc etc muslims believe they have to defend there lands etc etc ack why am i even trying SORRY haha in the end everyone is just fighting for nothing! everyone should be aloud to think for thereselfs do what they want but it will never happen!

[Psycho4Bud]

I hate all goverments, USA, UK, iran, ireland etc etc all they do is lie, cheat and steal and tell me what not to do!:

When ya line up all the assholes though which one is more likely to be believed? Surely not the one that states openly that the Holocaust never happened.

Have a good one!:s4:

[eg420ne]

:hippy: Its a long read...

"How can you be certain which side of a boundary you are when that boundary has never been drawn?"
How I know Blair faked Iran map | the Mail on Sunday (http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_article_id=445896&in_page_id=1787&in_a_source=)

[Humboldt215]

I remember the Iranians doing this back in 1979 to the 52 American hostages and holding them for 444 days, only to release them once Jimmy Carter(D)was no longer president and Ronald Regan (R) was officially in office they awaited on the tarmac until regan was president, to spite Jimmy Carter and also because Ronald Regan said he'd take the hostages back by force and the Iranians knew it.

They understand the sword not the pen or coddling in discussions for political correctness, they have been supporting terrorism for decades.

Blast their 1 refinery on the coast, let them run out of fuel stocks would be a good start.

[Gatekeeper777]

Here's my take.....Iranians holding the Brits hostage doesn't have jack shit to do with Bush.

Have a good one!:s4:

Oh so you dont think that IRAN taking brits hostages has anything to do with george bush?
The fact that they are in IRAN and an alley WITH the USA is reason enough for them in their minds to take hostages. Iran wants to take back iraq, but they cant with the allied troops there, thats the reason they want to start their shit.
He knew this could happen. He gets intelligence breifings every day at 4 am eastern for 1 hour.
Oh thats right George Bush has no intelligence otherwise our troops would have never invaded the WRONG country! and looked for WMD's that were never there.
He is so retarded the British asked him to stay away and stay out of it.

[Psycho4Bud]

Oh so you dont think that IRAN taking brits hostages has anything to do with george bush?

No I don't.....Iran and Britain have a history dating back to the 16th century. The only thing they like better than getting in the U.S.s grill is getting into the Brits.

Have a good one!:s4:

[medicinal]

Iran TV shows 'confessions' - Focus on Iran - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17896952/)
How can any American even remotely be on the side of the iranians when they are chanting "death to America" and "death to Britain"? Free speech is a great thing, but when it's put in the hands of idiots, free speech becomes the greatest enemy against the U.S. and the soldiers. It has almost become embarrassing how divided the U.S. has become. You live in America, if you don't like the president or how things are ran, then get out, go to Iran, but first convert to muslim so they don't kill you. You should be thankful our gov't doesn't kill you for having different opinions. And veterans who are bashing the gov't and America must have missed the point of being in the army. A soldiers greatest honor is dying for their country and everything their country believes in.
I'll guaratee you that dying for my country was not the greatest ambition of my military service, staying alive was. It's obvious when you post bullshit like the above, you have never put on a uniform and went to a hell known as combat. You need to grow up and take a look at the real America, the one ruled by corporations. The one that doesn't give one fuck about you or your family and would sell you to the highest bidder. That post is the most ignorant post I have seen on this forum. How old are you, 10-12 would be my guess.

[bong_man]

Iran TV shows 'confessions' - Focus on Iran - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17896952/)
How can any American even remotely be on the side of the iranians when they are chanting "death to America" and "death to Britain"? Free speech is a great thing, but when it's put in the hands of idiots, free speech becomes the greatest enemy against the U.S. and the soldiers. It has almost become embarrassing how divided the U.S. has become. You live in America, if you don't like the president or how things are ran, then get out, go to Iran, but first convert to muslim so they don't kill you. You should be thankful our gov't doesn't kill you for having different opinions. And veterans who are bashing the gov't and America must have missed the point of being in the army. A soldiers greatest honor is dying for their country and everything their country believes in.
I'll guaratee you that dying for my country was not the greatest ambition of my military service, staying alive was. It's obvious when you post bullshit like the above, you have never put on a uniform and went to a hell known as combat. You need to grow up and take a look at the real America, the one ruled by corporations. The one that doesn't give one fuck about you or your family and would sell you to the highest bidder. That post is the most ignorant post I have seen on this forum. How old are you, 10-12 would be my guess.

ba ba ba BRAINWASHEDDD

[Silent Wolf]

I remember the last time when Brits and Iranians came face to face in a gun battle. The Iranians shit their pants after they tasted the WRATH of the SAS. I think one Jihadist was shot more than 80 times...ouch

[LIP]

I remember the last time when Brits and Iranians came face to face in a gun battle. The Iranians shit their pants after they tasted the WRATH of the SAS. I think one Jihadist was shot more than 80 times...ouch

You'd think they'd have learned their lesson. Our SAS are the best fighters in the world - not to mention the rest of our military - some of the highest trained, if not the highest in the world, and they STILL try to play games - one day they'll go too far and we'll end them - saying that, i dont want another war. They just need to give up, and get on with life. Stop trying to get our backs up.

[Gatekeeper777]

now they have nukes, surely they are cocky for a reason.

[LIP]

now they have nukes, surely they are cocky for a reason.

A war against iran would be like a 20 year old bloke kicking a 2 year old girl.

They're cockey, but have no substance.

[Psycho4Bud]

A war against iran would be like a 20 year old bloke kicking a 2 year old girl.

They're cockey, but have no substance.

HELL YEAH! And like a 2 year old every now and then they need their asses spanked.......I think it's about that time now.

Have a good one!:s4:

[medicinal]

Well, not wanting to cause a stir~LOL~, I must wonder what the right wing warmongers would say if it were proven that the Brits were actually in Iranian waters. Do they not have a right to detain foriegn troops with a war going on next door? You better believe if russia had invaded Canada and Russian troops were in US waters, we would certainly do some detaining. I know, I know, the same rules don't apply to us. After all, aren't we the best in the world? We never make mistakes and invade other countries for no good reason, use napalm and cluster bombs on civilians (Viet Nam), overthrow leftists governments, Bomb south America with the deadly Paraquat or agent orange (how many civilians has that killed)? Yeah we're the greatest nation on the earth allright, if you don't believe it, just ask a rich American, an elite. They'll stand up for the red white and blue, for it is this government that has made and kept them rich at the expense of millions of underpriveledged citizens around the globe. It is time for a change. I say, if you're hungry, find a rich man to eat, they taste better because they eat better. Barbecued CEO sounds mighty tasty, but you'll have to get rid of the asshole first and then there wont be that much left, maybe a couple a bites.

[Psycho4Bud]

IF they actually were in Iranian waters fine but I highly doubt it to be true. The Iranian government is on a mission with their nuclear program not to mention the assholes we detained IN Iraq.

IF this was a big U.S./Brit plan to bomb the hell out of Iran it would have been done by now. The ONLY other possibility is that the British government just wanted them to cross over into Iranian waters for NO reason at all which doesn't make any sense at all. The ONLY ones to gain off this is possibly Iran....

Have a good one!:s4:

[medicinal]

Could there have possibly been a malfunction in the GPS that led them astray. I can't possibly see what advantage the Brits would have to gain by intentionally going into Iranian waters, and conversely, what advantage would the Iranians have in going into Iraqi waters and kidnapping them. I'm betting on a mistake by the Brits that even though you neocons like to call it propaganda, the captured brits have admitted. Just a mistake that both sides have over-reacted to. If the stubborn Brits would just say, yeah I guess our GPS malfunctioned ,and we meant no foul, I'm pretty sure the Iranians would have no choice but to give them back. And even if it didn't happen that way. Does it not make sense to get them back, even if you have to tell a little white lie, shelve the Egos for a moment and be humble. The world knows the might of the British and their big Brother the USA. This is a pitiful little event to think about starting a war, talk it out. Do you have any Idea how many will die on both sides if a war with Iran is started?

[LIP]

Well hopefully IF a war was started, all of those bastards chanting death to america and death to england would be executed by us, but as war has a horrible way of going wrong, a war isnt needed. Like you said, it just needs to be talked through. Anyway, in the papers today they've supposidly made some progress - but if Iran keep playing they're silly games we'll loose our temper with them. They're walking on thin ice.