Crazy NFL moves

[ATrain]

Nobody seems to be talking about all the players that have switched teams recently. What do you guys think of some of them?

It seems like you have Atlanta trading away the only actual quarterback on their ream. The Patriots are reloading! Hell, what do you guys think of all the players getting arrested recently!

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[typoerror]

the atlanta/texas trade is crazy. atlanta got the better end of the stick though.
whats really crazy is texas giving up on carr. he wasnt the problem, their o-line is. and schaub sure as hell is not a mobile qb. atleast with carr you knew you had a qb that could take a beating.

[ATrain]

I totally agree with what you said about Carr. I know they never had a winning season under him but how can he carry the team with no offensive line, no defense, poor WRs and an average RB.

I heard a stat that said Carr was sacked 249 times in his 5 seasons in Houston. That totally took a good 3 years off his career :( I always thought if he was in the right system he could be a pretty good QB.

[RaoulDuke45]

texans suck, i dont see why they arent trying to greatly improve their o-line, as vince lombari say linemen win game, they have a decent qb, a great young receiver they wouldnt be so bad if they had a good o-line. But personally im excited about the bears pick up, archuleta is a great pick up, now they can focus on offense in the draft, but I'd still love to see them pick up patrick willis, but thats not gonna happen, hes too good to slip that far.

[ATrain]

I'm still surprised that the Bears let Thomas Jones go (Former Buccaneer :thumbsup: ) when Cedric Benson hasn't really shown he can start yet.

And yes, the Texans do suck :) Although I'd like to see them at least get 8 or 9 wins in a season.

[thcbongman]

I totally agree with what you said about Carr. I know they never had a winning season under him but how can he carry the team with no offensive line, no defense, poor WRs and an average RB.

I heard a stat that said Carr was sacked 249 times in his 5 seasons in Houston. That totally took a good 3 years off his career :( I always thought if he was in the right system he could be a pretty good QB.

Anywhere else, I guarantee that guy could be a top-5 QB. The protection from the O-line is non-existant, like running through a piece of paper. I'm glad the Texans released him, now he got a chance to shine somewhere else.

Now if the Redskins make a move to acquire him.....which I seriously doubt.

[RIP ODB]

Nobody seems to be talking about all the players that have switched teams recently. What do you guys think of some of them?

It seems like you have Atlanta trading away the only actual quarterback on their ream. The Patriots are reloading! Hell, what do you guys think of all the players getting arrested recently!

I crave NFL talk :) :) :)

Yes, the Patriots made some power moves. The Colts made none. Chargers made none. The Ravens scare me (Pats fan) more than either of those teams do.

[ATrain]

Anywhere else, I guarantee that guy could be a top-5 QB. The protection from the O-line is non-existant, like running through a piece of paper. I'm glad the Texans released him, now he got a chance to shine somewhere else.

Now if the Redskins make a move to acquire him.....which I seriously doubt.

Sounds like Carr will work for food at this point so I wouldn't count it out :thumbsup: Most teams seem to have their QB position all taken care of at this point (And those that don't, Oakland, will take care of it on draft day).

And yeah, the Ravens seemed to come out of nowhere last year after a bad start. And getting McGahee was a solid move too. If Ed Reed gets back to his old ways and they can find a replacement for Thomas, they could do something. Mind you McNair has two seasons left in him at most.

[RaoulDuke45]

I hate that the bears let go jones, he was great, and we dont really know what we got in return until the draft, although the bears are great at drafting late in the second round. the pats picked up alot of good players, they're definatly a favority this year same with the ravens, i like lewis better than mcgahee.

[ATrain]

I hate that the bears let go jones, he was great, and we dont really know what we got in return until the draft, although the bears are great at drafting late in the second round. the pats picked up alot of good players, they're definatly a favority this year same with the ravens, i like lewis better than mcgahee.

I think Lewis has a lot of running left in him. Spending time in jail really seemed to fuck with him but with a new team comes a new start. If the Browns get a QB or move around and take an LT it could be his return to glory :thumbsup: Not to long ago he was one badass running back!

[yoda]

Anywhere else, I guarantee that guy could be a top-5 QB. The protection from the O-line is non-existant, like running through a piece of paper. I'm glad the Texans released him, now he got a chance to shine somewhere else.

Now if the Redskins make a move to acquire him.....which I seriously doubt.

why? we got jason campbell. lets see what he can do. im not crazy about the rumors of us trading our #6 pick to the bears for OLB lance briggs and their 31st pick though. unless they throw in some more picks, but OLB is not a need for us.

[Psycho4Bud]

So far it looks like the Patriots have been the most aggressive. LOL...they must not have liked the idea of the Colts winning.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[thcbongman]

why? we got jason campbell. lets see what he can do. im not crazy about the rumors of us trading our #6 pick to the bears for OLB lance briggs and their 31st pick though. unless they throw in some more picks, but OLB is not a need for us.

I'm all for giving Campbell a chance, but it wouldn't be a bad move to acquire an insurance policy, especially a QB who still has a couple of prime years left. Brunell doesn't cut it anymore. He's a smart QB, but in terms of mobility, he's done.

I'm not crazy about that rumor either. Redskins should not be trading anything other than 6th round picks, and hopefully will shore up the line.

[typoerror]

im not crazy about the rumors of us trading our #6 pick to the bears for OLB lance briggs and their 31st pick though. unless they throw in some more picks, but OLB is not a need for us.

that will not happen since Briggs is franchised, the redskins would have to give up two first round picks.

[ATrain]

that will not happen since Briggs is franchised, the redskins would have to give up two first round picks.

Briggs said that he will sit out the season if he isn't dealt. Usually when someone is that set in their ways the team has to do something. Sounds like it is either deal him now and get something or have him sit a year and then have him leave.

Campbell looked okay last year in the limited action he saw but they have zero depth at that position. Not saying they should drop the first round pick on a QB but they will have to adress it at some point.

I don't like the Bills but they are getting cleaned out this offseason! They've lost McGahee, London Fletcher, TKO, and Nate Clements! They are totally going to move that team to LA or Vegas. What are Canadians supposed to do if they want to see NFL action :(

[typoerror]

oh yea i forgot he said he was going to sit out the year.

Campbell looked good because Betts look damned good.

yep the bills are trying to be the shittiest team. if not, it sure seems like it. definitely looks like they want to move.

[yoda]

that will not happen since Briggs is franchised, the redskins would have to give up two first round picks.

thats only if they wanted to sign briggs. but you can make whatever deals you want when someone is tagged. its also easy to happen then, as the tag is all base salary, no signing bonus. teams dont take a cap hit for trading a tagged player. we traded champ(and a 2nd rounder) to get clinton portis, when bailey was franchised.

[PigSnout]

I think Briggs is an awesome LBer. He shuts down his side of the field. However with Lamar Marshall moving back to his normal position as outside LBer and with the development of McIntosh, I agree LB is not a big need.

Probably that dildo Snyder wanting to get a marquee player instead of addressing their obvious weaknesses. Depth at DT and a pass rush. They did go out and get CBs to shore that up. Dumb move letting the veteran Walt Harris go, 8 pics and a Pro Bowl. They could have used him with the injuries in the secondary last year.

[yoda]

I think Briggs is an awesome LBer. He shuts down his side of the field. However with Lamar Marshall moving back to his normal position as outside LBer and with the development of McIntosh, I agree LB is not a big need.

Probably that dildo Snyder wanting to get a marquee player instead of addressing their obvious weaknesses. Depth at DT and a pass rush. They did go out and get CBs to shore that up. Dumb move letting the veteran Walt Harris go, 8 pics and a Pro Bowl. They could have used him with the injuries in the secondary last year.

did you watch walt harris play when he was here? he was on a modest contract, but didnt even deserve that. was horrible in coverage, didnt create turnovers. if im not mistaken, he was only a nickel back in SF, which means he doesnt have to worry about man coverage as much and could watch the qb's eyes more.

[PigSnout]

did you watch walt harris play when he was here? he was on a modest contract, but didnt even deserve that. was horrible in coverage, didnt create turnovers. if im not mistaken, he was only a nickel back in SF, which means he doesnt have to worry about man coverage as much and could watch the qb's eyes more.
Hi Yoda,

Harris was a starter for SF last year. (I could be wrong but I don't think you can make the Pro Bowl as a nickel back, btw.)

I've watched almost every game Washington has played the last 5 years. The NFL ticket is awesome!!!!

I disagree with your statement he was horrible. He was a backup with Washington and did a decent job starting when the other CBs were out. After all Washington was a top rated pass defense in 2005 WITHOUT very many sacks. Archuleta is an example of horrible last year if you ask me. Harris had more interceptions by himself, 8, than the Redskins did as a team last year 6.

The way the Washington defense is run you really have to have backup veterans in case the starters go down. They run one of the more complicated defenses. Alot of disguises, ends drop off into coverage, DBs blitzing. When they had their injuries last year the defense became more vanilla. The pass D, one of the best in 2005 was horrible in 2006, while the run D weakened as the season went on.

I dont know what he was asking for salary wise and never imagined he play at the high level he did last year. But, I was hoping he'd stay around as a backup.

peace

ps Did you see Washington is looking at Asante Samuel? Although I'd like to have him, they have a ton of starting CBs now. Springs, Rogers, Smoot, Macklin. I haven't heard to the contrary but I wonder if Springs injuries are still a concern?

[yoda]

ps Did you see Washington is looking at Asante Samuel? Although I'd like to have him, they have a ton of starting CBs now. Springs, Rogers, Smoot, Macklin. I haven't heard to the contrary but I wonder if Springs injuries are still a concern?

harris was still under contract, we just cut him. i think his base salary was something like 2 million, his play just didnt warrant it. in his 2 years in washington, he got a combined 3 interceptions. plus he'll be 33 at the start of the season. he didnt work out in williams' system.