Ron Paul in 2008

[JohnnyWrath]

Brief Overview of Congressman Paulâ??s Record

* He has never voted to raise taxes.
* He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
* He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
* He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
* He has never taken a government-paid junket.
* He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

* He voted against the Patriot Act.
* He voted against regulating the Internet.
* He voted against the Iraq war.

* He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

* He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

The chief sponsor of H.R. 1009, the "Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2007," is Representative Ron Paul (R-TX)

Ron Paul believes the federal war on drugs is NOT authorized by the constitution and he is correct...states should control those issues.

Hemp: Ron Paul Introduces Industrial Hemp Bill in US Congress | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet) (http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/473/ron_paul_introduces_hemp_bill_US_congress)

Please take the time to learn about Ron Paul, and then hopefully show your support here...

www.myspace.com/ronpaul2008 (http://www.myspace.com/ronpaul2008)

[tokinballer]

obamaa is legalizing it if he gets ellected.

[pwn3dy0]

no...obama is not going to legalize bud...don't fool yourself.


Ron Paul 2008

[GotWake88]

If I had to pick a Republican, he'd be the guy.
Dem through and through; Obama's got my vote.
I still wish Feingold would have run, though.

[Psycho4Bud]

If I had to pick a Republican, he'd be the guy.
Dem through and through; Obama's got my vote.
I still wish Feingold would have run, though.

Feingold......OMG!:S2:

Have a good one!:s4:

[GotWake88]

Feingold......OMG!:S2:

Have a good one!:s4:

He might not have had the greatest odds, but he is the most consistant and genuine politician there is, hands down.

[Psycho4Bud]

He might not have had the greatest odds, but he is the most consistant and genuine politician there is, hands down.

I'm from Wisconsin and I find him to be an asshole. Just another headline grabber. To each his own though.....

Have a good one!:s4:

[pisshead]

Ron Paul is this country's only hope at this point. He's what the country needs, someone who actually stands for the Constitution.

But he's not new world order tyrannical or socialist enough, so the neo-cons won't vote for him.

[andruejaysin]

But he's not new world order tyrannical or socialist enough, so the neo-cons won't vote for him.That's probably something of an understatement. Understated is not usually your style, some tasty kind, perhaps?

[JohnnyWrath]

What's on Ron Pauls desk?

http://thelibertarian.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/n18402350_31478775_450.jpg

[Delta9 UK]

What's on Ron Pauls desk?

http://thelibertarian.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/n18402350_31478775_450.jpg

LMAO that's a good one ;)

[Breukelen advocaat]

Ron Paul is an anti-freedom tyrant of a different stripe. His 9/11 conspiracy beliefs alone are enough to warrant a trip to the loony bin. The John Birch Society supports him, which is another minus on his card.

Ron Paul would overturn Roe vs. Wade. He actually seems to believe that abortion should illegal, as opposed to those who are paying lip service to the voters that are anti-choice.

He is also against Capital Punishment. First, he wants to force women to have children that are unwanted. When they turn into murderers, he then would make it impossible to rid society of their presence.

Anybody can say that they are honest and for "good government". See the other thread regarding propaganda.

[Psycho4Bud]

What a platform to run on ........the U.S. Government is responsible for 9-11. Oh ya, here's my V.P. candidate Alex Jones......LMAO!!!

Have a good one!:s4:

[JohnnyWrath]

Breukelen advocaat, you are a moron...he is against almost all federal governments making of laws that states are supposed to make.... he is pro-life personally, but believes the constitution does NOT grant the federal government the right to decide for people., and therefore he is for cementing roe vs. wade permanently........NOT changing it.... . He believes the states are the ones who should decide the issue, not the feds....personally he believe in pro-life and wishes all did, but he believes the constitution gives the federal government no authority to decide the issue...same with stem cells....he believes that people are on both ssides and people who pay taxes should not have to fund programs that they are passionately against....funding anything like that is something he won';t do..

He is for removing the IRS, removing federal income tax altogether since it only pays for the federal reserve which he also will abolish as JFK started to. He believes the federal government does not have constitutional authority to regulate drugs and believes the war on any and all drugs by the federal government should stop.

Are you &^%$ing kidding me he is against freedom? He seeks to remove most of the federal government because the constitution demanded a small government BY THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE....he opposes all federal laws in any form the government places on people that are crimes that do not hurt others....he is against capital punishmnet because he is against all killing aside from self defense.

His stance is basically that anything and everything should be legal that doesn't hurt anothers freedom....your post is the dumbest I have ever heard...I DARE you to throw up a candidate he pushes for more freedom than Ron Paul....I DARE YOU...he believes the federal government has one purpose and one purpose ONLY....to protect the liberty of the United States citizens..


Are you kidding me...name one time he voted against the constitution in his 18 years as congressman? Name me one candidate who is more for freedom so I can laugh and prove you absolutely uninformed...

CNET voted him as the #1 defender of online privacy and freedom....he even defends porn and demands the internet be unregulated....maybe you should read into his votes before you cast your opinion....bills contain many many potential laws, and he had to vote against port security just to vote for keeping online gambling legal.....it was buried in the bill....go ahead, name me one person who comes close?

His belief is that we should have liberties and freedom of every kind and form, unless that liberty or freedom takes away from anothers rights....this is what the founders believed, and what I believe....9/11....dude, whatever, he said we should investigate it further is all...give me your guys name, and let's put him up against Paul.

Show me where he said some 9/11 conspiracy stuff or shut up Hillary lover.

[JohnnyWrath]

Anybody can say that they are honest and for "good government". See the other thread regarding propaganda.

Ron Paul has an 18 year record we can look back on....he accepts NO money from lobbyists at all in anyway and we will know he is not working for anyone but us as he always has, he votes based on the constitution 100% of the time going into his 10th term in congress....hmmmm, give the name of who you plan to vote for...this should be easy and fun.

People haven't heard as much about Ron Paul in the media because he doesn't molest his children or other peoples, he never is involved in scandal, he is NOT corruptable and won't even take part in the congressional pension program he feels is too generous at the tax payers expense, he doesn't cheat on his wife, and he not only doesn't steal from us, but returned about 20% of his budget to the treasury for the last 6-7 year running now....this is why he is never on the news...you tell me which guy you are voting for and let's see if he doesn't only not steal, but also gives back 20% of his yearly budget to the tax payers??? I will wait for your response so we can match your guy up against mine...

[Breukelen advocaat]

Telling people here to "shut up", calling them "morons", writing "I DARE you....", etc. is not the proper way to engage in a conversation. You are wrong about Ron Paul, who is anti-choice, but I will not communicate any further with you.

[JohnnyWrath]

I apologize, but I have NEVER heard Ron Paul called an opponent to freedom from any source on any site or person online or off, and because I believe in his protection of our rights and liberty so passionately, I was offended and posted aggressively....

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate running that has a record of protecting our constitution, and he is the only candidate not pushing some form of socialistic health care....he refused to even give the pope, Rosa Parks, and Tony Blair gold medals of honors because the medals were paid for with taxpayers money....he instead stated he will pay for them himself if the other members of congress pay their share....voted "tax payers best friend" ten years in a row now.....18 years in congress and NEVER voted to raise taxes one time...voted against the patriot act both times....voted against the Iraq war based on the founders vision of non-interventionism, the constitution, and the fact congress is the only United States entity that can constitutionally declare war....

The man deserves more respect than you gave him whether you vote for him or not....he is one of the few people in Washington who uphold their oath to protect the constitution, and one of the few who is not corrupt and works to keep the United States free and sovereign.

[Psycho4Bud]

I apologize, but I have NEVER heard Ron Paul called an opponent to freedom from any source on any site or person online or off, and because I believe in his protection of our rights and liberty so passionately, I was offended and posted aggressively....

VERY cool.....welcome to the forums...

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Breukelen advocaat]

Ron Paul gets no respect at all from me until he denounces the 9/11 truthers, who support him. They believe that the U.S. government was responsible for the attacks against America on 9/11.

YouTube - Ron Paul Exposed www.ronpaulexposed.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Ze0zNF9a0)

RonPaulExposed.com (http://RonPaulExposed.com)

He has also written extensively against abortion, going back over 25 years:

Being Pro-Life Is Necessary to Defend Liberty (http://www.l4l.org/library/bepro-rp.html)
"Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder." Ron Paul in 1981. He still feels this way.


He is also pro-gun, but anti-Capital Punishment.

[pisshead]

I apologize, but I have NEVER heard Ron Paul called an opponent to freedom from any source on any site or person online or off, and because I believe in his protection of our rights and liberty so passionately, I was offended and posted aggressively....

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate running that has a record of protecting our constitution, and he is the only candidate not pushing some form of socialistic health care....he refused to even give the pope, Rosa Parks, and Tony Blair gold medals of honors because the medals were paid for with taxpayers money....he instead stated he will pay for them himself if the other members of congress pay their share....voted "tax payers best friend" ten years in a row now.....18 years in congress and NEVER voted to raise taxes one time...voted against the patriot act both times....voted against the Iraq war based on the founders vision of non-interventionism, the constitution, and the fact congress is the only United States entity that can constitutionally declare war....

The man deserves more respect than you gave him whether you vote for him or not....he is one of the few people in Washington who uphold their oath to protect the constitution, and one of the few who is not corrupt and works to keep the United States free and sovereign.

you're trying to convince a big government socialist neo-con that ron paul's a good choice...

a pro-constitution freedom lover isn't what neo-cons want...they want nothing short of a dictator with a powerless congress and supreme court...

don't waste your time.

anyone who's followed ron paul's career (one of only 2 congressman to get a 100 on the conservative index...most score like the commies they are)...knows that he's the most freedom loving pro-constitution candidate you could possibly have...which is why foxnews ignores him...

but the level of freedom the constitution demands scares some people...so they end up voting for tyranny.

[medicinal]

Ron paul has some admirable traits, I admit. The thing about Ron paul that scares me is the fact he would Privatize everything that government does now. If you trust corporations to run the country even more than they do now, then Ron Paul is your guy. I can't go along with this platform because for a fact, corporations have no conscience and only exist for the bottom line. This would further widen the gap between the rich and poor and hasten the departure of the "middle class". On his good points, less government interferance in our lives would be a welcome thing, But, by privatizing all govt. entities, like cops, courts etc. do you believe with private prisons being built faster than greased lightning, the private cops who would probably work on a bonus system wouldnt be more ruthless than the ones we have now. No the privatization of America has gone far enough, the corporation already have a stranglehold on government. Just look at how Haliburton has raped the American taxpayer, and that is only what we know. If the Dems grow some balls, the real carnage of money squandering might be revealed. Ron Paul is too far out to be running this country.

[pwn3dy0]

Ron paul has some admirable traits, I admit. The thing about Ron paul that scares me is the fact he would Privatize everything that government does now. If you trust corporations to run the country even more than they do now, then Ron Paul is your guy. I can't go along with this platform because for a fact, corporations have no conscience and only exist for the bottom line. This would further widen the gap between the rich and poor and hasten the departure of the "middle class". On his good points, less government interferance in our lives would be a welcome thing, But, by privatizing all govt. entities, like cops, courts etc. do you believe with private prisons being built faster than greased lightning, the private cops who would probably work on a bonus system wouldnt be more ruthless than the ones we have now. No the privatization of America has gone far enough, the corporation already have a stranglehold on government. Just look at how Haliburton has raped the American taxpayer, and that is only what we know. If the Dems grow some balls, the real carnage of money squandering might be revealed. Ron Paul is too far out to be running this country.


What are you talking about? What you said is an outright, bold LIE. Ron Paul for privatization? He is on record for abolishing the Federal Reserve which is the biggest, most detrimental corporation in our country. He is on record saying the government has too much privacy, hell, he has stated numerous times we should abolish the CIA. What you said, is the opposite of what he stands for.

As for Ron Paul and "private prisons". He wants to make all drugs LEGAL. He doesn't believe the constitution gives the government the right to outlaw any psychoactive substance. Over 80% of the increase in the federal prison population from 1985 to 1995 was due to drug convictions.

Do you think the big corporations and government who own the private prisons want that? No. They want Hillary Clinton, or Rudy Giulliani who will stiffen the drug laws, and increase the budget of the CIA. Speaking of the CIA, they ship the majority of cocaine in this country. John Kerry even came out and admitted it due to the overwhelming evidence. So the drug dealers not only profit from the drugs, but from the crisis they have created.

There is a reason you never hear Ron Paul on Foxnews or CNN. He is not in compliance with the elite who own the big media outlets. Therefore, they don't talk about him. They fund, and mold the public to vote for their little puppets. They own both the democrats and the republicans. I hate to say it, but pending a drastic awakening 2008 will be like 2004. One vote. One party. No choice. Sadly, ALL mainstream canidates are selected by a few elite before they are "elected" by the public. And even worse news, Ron Paul is not in that small group.

[pwn3dy0]

edit: double post

[DryGuy420]

The only "negative" stuff i have found about this guy is that he is associated with conspiracy groups................exactly how is this "negative"? All that tells me is that if there is some horseshit going on in the government he will look for it and find it and since he is associated with these groups he will more than likely let the information out,and not LIE it into a huge mess like Iraq *cough* BUSH *cough*. Im not sure about making ALL drugs legal,that would be a mess and the harder,well addictive,life ruining,dangerous drugs IE meth,Crack,Heroin ect ect. should have some level of enforcement due to the effects of them on peoples lives. I would like to hear his thoughts on it though. Im all about someone who wants to pull us out of the Iraq mess,legalize marijuana,and holds tight to his opinions all the while only voting for laws and regulations that support the constitution. This guy has my vote,spread the word he needs more face time to get his name on the lips of all AMERICANS. I was gonna vote for the black guy (cant spell his name) if for nothing more than the fact he is black,ever walk up to a black guy and say "Hey want in on this blunt?' and his response was "No,hell no"? Ron Paul is looking like a better choice for AMERICA though becouse he states his intent with this subject while i cant fnd anything on the black dude and Clinton didnt even bother to respond,got a generated email saying she doesnt have time for me.

[medicinal]

What are you talking about? What you said is an outright, bold LIE. Ron Paul for privatization? Do you know what privatization is? Privatization is when most all venues run by the federal government are farmed out to private companies, like Haliburton and the support of the troops in Iraq. It's when all government agencies that watchdog the corporations are shut down and the corporations are allowed to run rampant over the populace. It's like federal prisons being run by private companies. Libertarians are most definently for privatization of all government run programs, No medicare, no welfare, no social security, no income tax, Maybe a value added tax that would not affect the rich as much as the poor, A real libertarian is about a half an inch from Anarchy. I said that I was for some of his Ideas, Less Big brother shit, legalization of drugs and freedom from oppression, but a libertarian just switches the oppression from the government to private enterprize, and you know how ruthless they are, and they have no oversight. Before you start calling me a liar, maybe you should look into what libertarianism is really about. Then I will accept your apology. BTW I admire honesty in government and it appears he is an honest man, I just can't vote for anarchy. There has never been a successful libertarian government yet. What makes you think it will work here

[medicinal]

A breif synopsis of libertarianism:1. What is a libertarian?
The word means roughly "believer in liberty". Libertarians believe in individual conscience and individual choice, and reject the use of force or fraud to compel others except in direct response to force or fraud. Some libertarians (the so-called Le Fevbrians) reject *all* use of force, even in self-defense.

2. What do libertarians want to do? Help individuals take more control over their own lives. Take the state (and other self-appointed representatives of "society") out of private decisions. Put both halves of the welfare/warfare bureaucracy out of business and liberate the 7/8ths of our wealth that's now soaked up by the costs of a bloated and ineffective government to make us all richer and freer. (This presupposes that everyone has some wealth which is not the case) Oppose tyranny everywhere, whether it's the obvious variety driven by greed and power-lust or the subtler, "well-intentioned" kinds that coerce people "for their own good" but against their will.

3. Where does libertarianism come from?
Modern libertarianism has multiple roots. An important one is the minimal-government republicanism of the U.S.'s founding revolutionaries, especially Thomas Jefferson and the Anti-Federalists. Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill and the "classical liberals" of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries were another influence. More recently, Ayn Rand's philosophy of "ethical egoism" and the "Austrian School" of free-market economics (This only benefits the wealthiest 10%) have both contributed important ideas. Libertarianism is alone among 20th-century radical movements in owing virtually nothing to Marxism. It does have some good principles, but the wider view is akin to anarchy.

[medicinal]

I'm from Wisconsin and I find him to be an asshole. Just another headline grabber. To each his own though.....

My name is Jon Johnson, I come from Wisconson....................................~LOL~ too friggin cold for me!~

[fishman3811]

Ron Paul will never get nominated anyway unless he runs as an independant right?

[medicinal]

Ron Paul will never get nominated anyway unless he runs as an independant right?

He'll never get to the primaries, and if he did, he'd run out of money real fast. Outside of a few hundred thousand people, no-one has even heard of him. Ralph Nader has more recognition than Ron Paul and all he did to the election was take enough votes away from Gore to let Bush in. It's silly to even contemplate a Ron Paul run for the presidential office,