Tobacco

[growinforthefuture]

I really hate tobacco. Where I live everyone thinks they should light up after they have a toke. they smoke my weed, then they are likje do I need o go outside to smoke this? and i am like yeah, considering you already lit it in my house. then they bitch about the fact it is -20 outside with the windchill. Cigs (and other tobacco including blunt papers are gross). those things are NOT organic. they are poison. I was just wondering if most of y'all see the stupidness, and shittiness of tobacco. people that smoke the stuff hate it, peopl that smoke weed love it. hmmm. I live in the USA in the state that produces more tobacco than any other state. cig. smoking is just rampant here. so is dip chew, cigars, etc. etc. shit is cheap.

edit: it also has killed a bunha grandparents and great aunts/uncles who smoked before there were even warnings. some of them stopped when they were like 30 in the 1960's and they died of lung cncer in t5he 80's. any of you in high school or whatever who think it is cool to smoke i would advise you to put down the tobacco. you'd be a lot better off shooting heroin everyday... and i speak from experience. tobacco is the WORST thing to be addicted to. anyways. QUIT SMOKIN' CIGS KIDS

[The Colonel]

i think shooting up everyday
would be a little bit worse than a cigarette...

[TheAtomicPunk]

edit: it also has killed a bunha grandparents and great aunts/uncles who smoked before there were even warnings. some of them stopped when they were like 30 in the 1960's and they died of lung cncer in t5he 80's.

I would be lucky to live to 80 and I don't even smoke.
Some people, mostly including teens, just don't give a care and smoke anyways. I've done it, all my friends have done it, and luckily most of them at least have stopped. Especially since issue #4 was passed here in Ohio and we're not even allowed to smoke cigs in most places. Hell, if you smoke within 25 yards of a kid it's child endangerment and you will get tossed in jail!

[timothylearyisdead]

i think shooting up everyday
would be a little bit worse than a cigarette...

Exactly you can't say shooting heroin is better than smoking ever.
Alright so I have a smoking addiction, a mental one. I used to smoke 3 grams of weed a day, now I smoke about a gram a week at most, but I smoke a pack a cigs a day. The smoking addiction is all in my head I know, because when I smoke I have no need for a cigarette at all.
The reason I started smoking cigs is because I was tired of being a zombie from smoking all day everyday. I must say that cigs are much better for my head than weed. I could care less about my body, as long as I still have my mind. My two cents.

[growinforthefuture]

Not to talk about heroin a bunch but...
shooting up heroin does not cause cancer, does not cause emphysema, it does no cause chronic obstructive lung disorder it does not cause smokers cough. People who shoot heroin do not account for 99% of all cases of bladder cancer, tobacco users do. also by the way, shooting heroin does not cause HIV, AIDS, or hepatitis either. (sharing bio-hazardous materials does) And of course we all know that if used properly, a heroin user will not OD on heroin. it is the prohibition (high prices, impure cut products, unavailability of clean equipment, lack of proper supervision etc.

just another example of how prohibition is the real culprit which it seems in this case some of y'all support, while we let far more destructive practices go unnoticed.

and on a final note, perhaps heroin users do go too far in their quest for drugs, and maybe it is not good for them and may cause the breakdown of relationships and even mental illness, but what do you think would happen if all the sudden tobacco was as hard to get as heroin currently is. same thing.

[timothylearyisdead]

Not to talk about heroin a bunch but...
shooting up heroin does not cause cancer, does not cause emphysema, it does no cause chronic obstructive lung disorder it does not cause smokers cough. People who shoot heroin do not account for 99% of all cases of bladder cancer, tobacco users do. also by the way, shooting heroin does not cause HIV, AIDS, or hepatitis either. (sharing bio-hazardous materials does) And of course we all know that if used properly, a heroin user will not OD on heroin. it is the prohibition (high prices, impure cut products, unavailability of clean equipment, lack of proper supervision etc.

just another example of how prohibition is the real culprit which it seems in this case some of y'all support, while we let far more destructive practices go unnoticed.

and on a final note, perhaps heroin users do go too far in their quest for drugs, and maybe it is not good for them and may cause the breakdown of relationships and even mental illness, but what do you think would happen if all the sudden tobacco was as hard to get as heroin currently is. same thing.

youcan't die right away after smoking one cigarette. that's more than you can say for smack.

[growinforthefuture]

And of course we all know that if used properly, a heroin user will not OD on heroin. it is the prohibition (high prices, impure cut products, unavailability of clean equipment, lack of proper supervision etc.

i thought we all knew that...

anyhow i wouldn't advocate using either.

[Storm Crow]

Dude I once knew was an ex heroin addict and a smoker. He said it was harder to quit tobacco than heroin. "At least you don't find half-full syringes on the sidewalk!" In addition, my hubby and I had our first argument over tobacco. He wanted his usual Camel cigarettes, I wanted to eat that day. We finally compromised- he got a bag of Bull Durham, I got a box of Mac n Cheese. He still smokes and is in denial that it is a major cause of his health problems- at least he smokes "American Spirit" now. (big sigh!) Tobacco "tea" makes a good ant poison, incidentally. And did you know that a single drop of pure nicotine, placed on a rabbits ear, will kill the rabbit? Granny:hippy:

[Markass]

Not to talk about heroin a bunch but...
shooting up heroin does not cause cancer, does not cause emphysema, it does no cause chronic obstructive lung disorder it does not cause smokers cough. People who shoot heroin do not account for 99% of all cases of bladder cancer, tobacco users do. also by the way, shooting heroin does not cause HIV, AIDS, or hepatitis either. (sharing bio-hazardous materials does) And of course we all know that if used properly, a heroin user will not OD on heroin. it is the prohibition (high prices, impure cut products, unavailability of clean equipment, lack of proper supervision etc.

just another example of how prohibition is the real culprit which it seems in this case some of y'all support, while we let far more destructive practices go unnoticed.

and on a final note, perhaps heroin users do go too far in their quest for drugs, and maybe it is not good for them and may cause the breakdown of relationships and even mental illness, but what do you think would happen if all the sudden tobacco was as hard to get as heroin currently is. same thing.


Exactly. :thumbsup:

[blazed620]

I thankfully am not addicted to tobacco. Occasionaly if I'm drinking or if im toking then I'll have a cigg, or if im bored and need something to smoke then I'll bum one from my friends. But i'll never smoke enough cigarettes to ever get addicted, i'll never let that happen..Chewing tobacco is fucking gross too

[Markass]

I thankfully am not addicted to tobacco. Occasionaly if I'm drinking or if im toking then I'll have a cigg, or if im bored and need something to smoke then I'll bum one from my friends. But i'll never smoke enough cigarettes to ever get addicted, i'll never let that happen..Chewing tobacco is fucking gross too

lol, how often are you bored and smoke a cigarette? if it's at least once a day, you're addicted. be careful man, that's actually how I started smoking once I quit the times before. I'm done for good now.

I broke both of my rules last night. I went to a keg party and got trashed...and I can faintly remember my brother pointing out at one time that I had a cigarette and was smoking it, but cigarettes are not part of my lifestyle and will never ever be again. It's not worth dying over.

[slipknotpsycho]

personally i think you need to chill :p just my thoughts on it.. i think you're being overly harsh.. and not cuz i'm a smoker, you're just getting a lil to wound up that people smoke..

the part about lighting in your house, then bitching about it being cold outside i fully understand tho... anytime i go somewhere new, i ask if i need to step outside before even pulling out my pack... and if it's cold outside, well i either smoke really fast, or i just say fuck it, it's too damned cold outside..

i don't smoke becuase it's good for me, i know what it's doing to me, the problem is, i'm a 16 year smoker now... soemthing like a 14 year pack a day smoker... it's not so easy to just kick the habbit, and i have tried atleast 20 times... my longest quit was 3 months... then my wife got hit by a car and i was losing my mind... so i picked up a pack and haven't stopped since.... if i'm not mistaken (i'm bad with dates) this has been nearly a year now...

when i'm not going through a nic fit, i'll sit there and say "this is my last pack" low and behold, 20 mins later, i can't take it and i'm opening a new pack and insulting my own self for being so weak....

as far as addiction, side efffects and LONG term consequences go, i agree, tobacco is the worst of the worst.. not to mention it gives the user very little enjoyment... the first cig of the day, and the cig after a meal is about as high as the enjoyment gets, and that's very little...

now as far as short term consequences (namely instant death), danger and price go... there are worse things out there... but they atleast give the user some enjoyment... hard drugs only kill a small fraction that tobacco does, but the hard drugs do it instantly, while you won't pick up a cig and die 5 mins after smoking it.... kills by far more people, but it takes awhile. if cigs had instant death... well i can garuntee there'd be a whole shitload less users...

those are just my thoughts on the subject.

[Jimbob1310]

i smoke cigs too, i dont personally like em very much, and i smoke one a week tops, on average once a month.

im one of those people, that couldnt give a flying fuck about my health. i dont care when i die or from what. as long as i have my mind (as a poster before said) im happy.

[MaryjaneAndHashley]

personally i think you need to chill :p just my thoughts on it.. i think you're being overly harsh.. and not cuz i'm a smoker, you're just getting a lil to wound up that people smoke..

the part about lighting in your house, then bitching about it being cold outside i fully understand tho... anytime i go somewhere new, i ask if i need to step outside before even pulling out my pack... and if it's cold outside, well i either smoke really fast, or i just say fuck it, it's too damned cold outside..

i don't smoke becuase it's good for me, i know what it's doing to me, the problem is, i'm a 16 year smoker now... soemthing like a 14 year pack a day smoker... it's not so easy to just kick the habbit, and i have tried atleast 20 times... my longest quit was 3 months... then my wife got hit by a car and i was losing my mind... so i picked up a pack and haven't stopped since.... if i'm not mistaken (i'm bad with dates) this has been nearly a year now...

when i'm not going through a nic fit, i'll sit there and say "this is my last pack" low and behold, 20 mins later, i can't take it and i'm opening a new pack and insulting my own self for being so weak....

as far as addiction, side efffects and LONG term consequences go, i agree, tobacco is the worst of the worst.. not to mention it gives the user very little enjoyment... the first cig of the day, and the cig after a meal is about as high as the enjoyment gets, and that's very little...

now as far as short term consequences (namely instant death), danger and price go... there are worse things out there... but they atleast give the user some enjoyment... hard drugs only kill a small fraction that tobacco does, but the hard drugs do it instantly, while you won't pick up a cig and die 5 mins after smoking it.... kills by far more people, but it takes awhile. if cigs had instant death... well i can garuntee there'd be a whole shitload less users...

those are just my thoughts on the subject.

Haha, the first line said it all :D

[Reefer Rogue]

I really hate tobacco. Where I live everyone thinks they should light up after they have a toke. they smoke my weed, then they are likje do I need o go outside to smoke this? and i am like yeah, considering you already lit it in my house. then they bitch about the fact it is -20 outside with the windchill. Cigs (and other tobacco including blunt papers are gross). those things are NOT organic. they are poison. I was just wondering if most of y'all see the stupidness, and shittiness of tobacco. people that smoke the stuff hate it, peopl that smoke weed love it. hmmm. I live in the USA in the state that produces more tobacco than any other state. cig. smoking is just rampant here. so is dip chew, cigars, etc. etc. shit is cheap.

edit: it also has killed a bunha grandparents and great aunts/uncles who smoked before there were even warnings. some of them stopped when they were like 30 in the 1960's and they died of lung cncer in t5he 80's. any of you in high school or whatever who think it is cool to smoke i would advise you to put down the tobacco. you'd be a lot better off shooting heroin everyday... and i speak from experience. tobacco is the WORST thing to be addicted to. anyways. QUIT SMOKIN' CIGS KIDS

I also despise tobacco.

[onequickmove]

i like tobacco, but i smoke very rarely and am unusual in that i have absolutely zero addiction symptoms; when i do smoke tobacco it's usually good cigars, then pipes, and sometimes i'll buy a pack of american spirit cigs; overpriced, but there's no additives and i really think they taste much better that way; rather harsh; but a good "woody" type smoke

[40oz]

I don't know what you're talking about....smoking cigarettes is the coolest thing you can possibly do in high school.

[Reefer Rogue]

Peer pressure :rolleyes:

[josh g]

Gaaah. A friend addicted to heroin went up to me and said this "Dude pimp's gotta be face huge".
And he started laughing and i sed WTF?!? When he started acting really weird i stopped being friends with him.
He stopped doin heroin and months later he was totally clean. He calls me up and apologizes for all the messed up things
he did while he was on heroin. And then he told me that that one time he was actually saying "Dude you got a huge pimple on ur face"

Fact of the matter is, heroin can screw with your brain and ruins peoples lives.
NOW, a bunch of my friends smoke cigs and the most fucked up thing ive heard any of the say ever was
"Dude i got herpece!" and it was true! My point is, my stories might not even be true ,but heroin is bad.

Tobacco is too. :thumbsup: